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10/06/2014 08:36 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Thracian_Tsar Wrote:
As long as Kitana makes the cut, I don't care about the number.


I think this is essentially how everyone who's not happy about the roster number feels except it is with their favorite character.

At this point, I'm just going to say to those who are not pleased, tough shit. You have a right to complain, just know that it won't do anything.


It's not about "doing anything" it's simply about venting and expressing our opinions. Praising and cheering everything so far won't do anything either. lol


I said it's reasonable. I'm not about to lose my shit over something that isn't even confirmed yet.

What I don't quite understand is why people are knocking the returnees so far. I guarantee if the people crying about their favs had their favs in they wouldn't be bitching about anyone else in the game.

So all this "MK1 cast is so overused blah" is just code for "Oh no my fav character has a smaller chance of being in now blah". So hypocritical.


Um...How would the reverse be hypocritical? If Post MK3 characters were in over the MK1 characters how will that make me or anyone a hypocrite? Are you seriously saying Raiden, Sonya, Cage, Liu ect AREN'T overused when compared to them? lol

And of course if Tanya, Fujin, Havik, Nitara ect made it in I'll be chill. Hell, I'd probably be cheesing until release day. Because they'll finally be given some spotlight. Which is sorta my whole point lol
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10/06/2014 08:37 PM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
DjangoDrag Wrote:

There is never a reason for "fairness" to be involved. Fair to whom?


Fair to those characters' fans. The ones that usually don't get to play as their favorite characters compared to the ones that do so in every game.


You did continue reading just past that bit, yes?

No? Oh. Okay then.
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10/06/2014 08:38 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Thracian_Tsar Wrote:
As long as Kitana makes the cut, I don't care about the number.


I think this is essentially how everyone who's not happy about the roster number feels except it is with their favorite character.

At this point, I'm just going to say to those who are not pleased, tough shit. You have a right to complain, just know that it won't do anything.


It's not about "doing anything" it's simply about venting and expressing our opinions. Praising and cheering everything so far won't do anything either. lol

Difference is, one group is being positive, which leads to happiness, excitement, and satisfaction. Good vibes. The other leads to negativity , which means constant whining and complaining, thus disappointment, unhappiness, and discontent. If neither changes anything, why would one actively choose to be negative focused and unhappy about it?
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10/06/2014 08:41 PM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Thracian_Tsar Wrote:
As long as Kitana makes the cut, I don't care about the number.


I think this is essentially how everyone who's not happy about the roster number feels except it is with their favorite character.

At this point, I'm just going to say to those who are not pleased, tough shit. You have a right to complain, just know that it won't do anything.


It's not about "doing anything" it's simply about venting and expressing our opinions. Praising and cheering everything so far won't do anything either. lol

Difference is, one group is being positive, which leads to happiness, excitement, and satisfaction. Good vibes. The other leads to negativity , which means constant whining and complaining, thus disappointment, unhappiness, and discontent. If neither changes anything, why would one actively choose to be negative focused and unhappy about it?


Because maybe they're plain ole' unhappy about it? This is an open forum for the public to speak their minds. This isn't a meditation positive thinking spa. If people want to complain, bitch, scream from the rafters- let them. Just skip over their posts.

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10/06/2014 08:41 PM (UTC)
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DjangoDrag Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
DjangoDrag Wrote:

There is never a reason for "fairness" to be involved. Fair to whom?


Fair to those characters' fans. The ones that usually don't get to play as their favorite characters compared to the ones that do so in every game.


You did continue reading just past that bit, yes?

No? Oh. Okay then.


Another sassy lady in MKO. Great we needed that.
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10/06/2014 08:43 PM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
DjangoDrag Wrote:
projectzero00 Wrote:
DjangoDrag Wrote:

There is never a reason for "fairness" to be involved. Fair to whom?


Fair to those characters' fans. The ones that usually don't get to play as their favorite characters compared to the ones that do so in every game.


You did continue reading just past that bit, yes?

No? Oh. Okay then.


Another sassy lady in MKO. Great we needed that.


I've never been called a "sassy lady" before. That was fun. haha
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10/06/2014 08:47 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
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24 sucks. Sorry, I just think it sucks. If that makes me a scummy entitled spoiled ingrate who is "not a REAL mk fan" well then excuse me for wanting a little more.

Also a bloated roster is 59 not 30-36.



Exactly. 30-36 is the bare minimum seem like for fighting games these days. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting that. As I said, we're paying for this. We have every right to not be happy with the roster number. I could see the shaming if people were screaming out absurd numbers like 50 and 60 or more characters.


To me having 30 plus is bloated. I do not feel adding characters for the sake of having a bigger roster makes a better game. I want to be invested in the characters and if there are too many it dilutes my time with them. For example, I am playing Smash Bros 3DS for about 15 or so hours right now and still I have not even touched some of the characters on the roster and might never get round to.


And I respect that. That's YOU and how YOU feel. Not others. If someone does want 30 characters, it's nothing wrong with them wanting that. That's what I'm trying to really get across here. They shouldn't get jumped on if they're not happy with only having 24 characters. That's all.


There is a difference between wanting something realistic and wanting something arbitrarily. From whatI has been comminucated by NRS there has never been any indication of the roster being 30 characters or more. Never. The E3 select screen had and still it does have 24 chracter slots while NRS have been consistent in saying that the roster number will be close to MK9, which was 27 not including Kratos exclusively for PS3, and now from Adam Urbano, Injustice which had 24 characters.

You said that fighting game rosters seem to have bare minimum 30-36 characters these days which is not true. I do not understand how a person can come up with 30 plus roster size when there is nothing to support that MKX was ever going to have 30 or more characters. That is why people are getting "jumped on".
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10/06/2014 08:52 PM (UTC)
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xysion Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Ion3008 Wrote:
24 sucks. Sorry, I just think it sucks. If that makes me a scummy entitled spoiled ingrate who is "not a REAL mk fan" well then excuse me for wanting a little more.

Also a bloated roster is 59 not 30-36.



Exactly. 30-36 is the bare minimum seem like for fighting games these days. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting that. As I said, we're paying for this. We have every right to not be happy with the roster number. I could see the shaming if people were screaming out absurd numbers like 50 and 60 or more characters.


To me having 30 plus is bloated. I do not feel adding characters for the sake of having a bigger roster makes a better game. I want to be invested in the characters and if there are too many it dilutes my time with them. For example, I am playing Smash Bros 3DS for about 15 or so hours right now and still I have not even touched some of the characters on the roster and might never get round to.


And I respect that. That's YOU and how YOU feel. Not others. If someone does want 30 characters, it's nothing wrong with them wanting that. That's what I'm trying to really get across here. They shouldn't get jumped on if they're not happy with only having 24 characters. That's all.




You said that fighting game rosters seem to have bare minimum 30-36 chracters these days which is not true. ".


You have strung me up and whipped me over this already, I get it. I stated an incorrect fact. Let's move on.

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10/06/2014 08:58 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Ion3008 Wrote:
24 sucks. Sorry, I just think it sucks. If that makes me a scummy entitled spoiled ingrate who is "not a REAL mk fan" well then excuse me for wanting a little more.

Also a bloated roster is 59 not 30-36.



Exactly. 30-36 is the bare minimum seem like for fighting games these days. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting that. As I said, we're paying for this. We have every right to not be happy with the roster number. I could see the shaming if people were screaming out absurd numbers like 50 and 60 or more characters.


To me having 30 plus is bloated. I do not feel adding characters for the sake of having a bigger roster makes a better game. I want to be invested in the characters and if there are too many it dilutes my time with them. For example, I am playing Smash Bros 3DS for about 15 or so hours right now and still I have not even touched some of the characters on the roster and might never get round to.


And I respect that. That's YOU and how YOU feel. Not others. If someone does want 30 characters, it's nothing wrong with them wanting that. That's what I'm trying to really get across here. They shouldn't get jumped on if they're not happy with only having 24 characters. That's all.




You said that fighting game rosters seem to have bare minimum 30-36 chracters these days which is not true. ".


You have strung me up and whipped me over this already, I get it. I stated an incorrect fact. Let's move on.



And the part of my post which you omitted as well?
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10/06/2014 09:00 PM (UTC)
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Um...How would the reverse be hypocritical? If Post MK3 characters were in over the MK1 characters how will that make me or anyone a hypocrite? Are you seriously saying Raiden, Sonya, Cage, Liu ect AREN'T overused when compared to them? lol


It's hypocritical because the entire thread is about how 24 is not enough characters, but if the people complaining had their favs in they wouldn't be complaining about how big the roster is. That's my entire point.
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10/06/2014 09:02 PM (UTC)
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xysion Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
xysion Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Ion3008 Wrote:
24 sucks. Sorry, I just think it sucks. If that makes me a scummy entitled spoiled ingrate who is "not a REAL mk fan" well then excuse me for wanting a little more.

Also a bloated roster is 59 not 30-36.



Exactly. 30-36 is the bare minimum seem like for fighting games these days. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting that. As I said, we're paying for this. We have every right to not be happy with the roster number. I could see the shaming if people were screaming out absurd numbers like 50 and 60 or more characters.


To me having 30 plus is bloated. I do not feel adding characters for the sake of having a bigger roster makes a better game. I want to be invested in the characters and if there are too many it dilutes my time with them. For example, I am playing Smash Bros 3DS for about 15 or so hours right now and still I have not even touched some of the characters on the roster and might never get round to.


And I respect that. That's YOU and how YOU feel. Not others. If someone does want 30 characters, it's nothing wrong with them wanting that. That's what I'm trying to really get across here. They shouldn't get jumped on if they're not happy with only having 24 characters. That's all.




You said that fighting game rosters seem to have bare minimum 30-36 chracters these days which is not true. ".


You have strung me up and whipped me over this already, I get it. I stated an incorrect fact. Let's move on.



And the part of my post which you omitted as well?


I read it all. I omitted it because all of it stems from the statement I left in tact and I wanted to "cut the fat" and get to the bone with my reply.
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10/06/2014 09:05 PM (UTC)
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Boon did mention in an interview that the roster size will be around 30 or so. Which would include DLC, is my guess.
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10/06/2014 09:06 PM (UTC)
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I called it.

congrats

upvoted.
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10/06/2014 09:13 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
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Um...How would the reverse be hypocritical? If Post MK3 characters were in over the MK1 characters how will that make me or anyone a hypocrite? Are you seriously saying Raiden, Sonya, Cage, Liu ect AREN'T overused when compared to them? lol


It's hypocritical because the entire thread is about how 24 is not enough characters, but if the people complaining had their favs in they wouldn't be complaining about how big the roster is. That's my entire point.


Ok, now I see...I think.

If I'm a hypocrite for wanting a more well balanced roster when it comes to the returning characters and not just one particular group that's been in a plethora of titles, then file me underneath the heading. That sad, I highly doubt if the people complaining had their favorites in and the roster was still 24 characters that peace, love, and harmony will be drifting throughout this thread. The fact of the matter is the people who's favorites are in now and who are turning their noses up at those who are bitching would be doing the same exact thing if the roles were reversed. "What?! Tanya made it in over Sonya? FUCKING ABOMINATION!" "NO SCORIPION, NO BUY!".

And why is that? Because everyone will never be happy. Another side effect of life. And that's just something you have to deal with. If people aren't happy, if people are disappointed, then let them be. Most of these people will bitch and vent, get their feeling out, and get back to being hype. But stop trying to police feelings and opinions. (That's not just to you, but to everyone in this thread)
The same old suspects bitching about everything.

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10/06/2014 09:26 PM (UTC)
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FerraTorr Wrote:
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I have the feeling that people who are like "Chill man 24 is a great number don't be greedy" are those who already got their favs in their game. I don't like 24. Yes the characters are very fleshed out with the 3 variations but if I would pick 30 characters with one fighting style, over 24 with 3 fighting styles ANY DAY. Coz that lessens the chances of my favs being in. I mean Sheeva and Rain have no chance of appearing and the only one I was hoping for was Mileena. I would love to have many 3D era returnees but at least if Mileena was in, I would at least settle for 24. Now it would just be painful if no character that I like returns :/


This! You know it's bad when we're PRAYING for even the likes of iconic characters like Kitana/Mileena/Reptile/Ermac to make it in.

And everyone keeps acting as if we're getting a large amount of DLC. Sure, it would make sense to role out all the ax'd favorites and rake up some huge cash but who knows. We can just as easily get 3 or 4 DLC characters(with yet another guest included like Freddy for MK9).

I sure wish for once I could sit pretty and enjoy the fact that my favorites made it in. At the end of the day, you're paying for this. If you're not happy when 24 characters and want more- you have every right to feel that way. There should be no "shame" in that and nor should you be labeled as "greedy" because of it.



The last game spoiled people. It can't be Trilogy every time with all of your classic favorites making it in. This is not a compilation game or remake of all three Trilogy era games- it's a new, regular installment of MK. Remember how Raiden was not in MK3(not even Ultimate)? Remember how Mileena was not in Deadly Alliance? Kano and Sonya absent from MKII?

The point is this: in a regular MK installment you're not going to get every single fan favorite coming back. That's just how it's always been. It's just been a decade now really since we've had a true regular MK installment. The last one before MKX was Deception IMO.


You don't even know what you're talking about. I've APPLAUDED the fact that this game is going in a new direction, just as I've APPLAUDED the fact that it's sticking the middle finger up at those who want to remain living in 1995. This has nothing to do with wanting to "relive Trilogy". This is just me wishing some other cool characters that we haven't seen in 8-10 years could return with a cool design and kick some ass. As I said, I'd be fine with 24 characters if they were well diverse, but most of the returning characters are the same tired stagnant characters. Raiden....whooopy! Sonya and Cage, along with their daughter? How heartwarming. *yawn*.

And do not speak to me like a child. I understand not everyone favorites can get in every game, which is why some of these characters should take a back seat.

I'm not wanting 60 + characters. I'm not wanting fucking Mokap and Meat. I just want a little "surprise". Someone like Fujin or Tanya or Havik. Characters who fans like that haven't been relevant since 2004 or prior.


Well, that escalated quickly.

I honestly was not meaning to be a dick to you, man.


I'm sorry about that. I didn't mean to come off so harsh. It's fine. <3
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10/06/2014 09:27 PM (UTC)
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If twenty-four really is the number we're going to have for this game (despite that it is NOT confirmed yet), is it really that bad of a number?

-_-

According to a lot of you, yes. I don't get it. I'm going to play as everyone, not just my favorite Sub-Zero. Can't anyone just be happy we're getting something?

-_-

According to a lot of you, no, you can't be happy.

I'm looking forward on getting this game because they've impressed me with not just the characters they've shown so far, but what they've done to the game with the variations, the graphics and such... I'm happy, I'm sorry I can't say the same for some of you. Maybe you should stop following the game then if you're THIS unhappy with it. That's all I've seen here is nonstop bickering about the smallest of problems and I just don't get it.

What the hell is actually going to please you? When YOUR favorites get announced? I'm sure majority of you will actually have a change in heart, some probably not. But I really don't get what the hell is that much of a problem with this game.

Be happy, and be happy they're showing stuff to us and revealing it. It could be worse, they didn't have to announce anything or show us anything except the E3 trailer. We could easily not have anything to be impressed until 4-14-2015.

So yeah.
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10/06/2014 09:28 PM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Ok, now I see...I think.

If I'm a hypocrite for wanting a more well balanced roster when it comes to the returning characters and not just one particular group that's been in a plethora of titles, then file me underneath the heading. That sad, I highly doubt if the people complaining had their favorites in and the roster was still 24 characters that peace, love, and harmony will be drifting throughout this thread. The fact of the matter is the people who's favorites are in now and who are turning their noses up at those who are bitching would be doing the same exact thing if the roles were reversed. "What?! Tanya made it in over Sonya? FUCKING ABOMINATION!" "NO SCORIPION, NO BUY!".

And why is that? Because everyone will never be happy. Another side effect of life. And that's just something you have to deal with. If people aren't happy, if people are disappointed, then let them be. Most of these people will bitch and vent, get their feeling out, and get back to being hype. But stop trying to police feelings and opinions. (That's not just to you, but to everyone in this thread)


I can promise you that this thread would not exist if the OP had his/her favorite in the game. Somebody else who didn't have their favorite in would've made it. That's literally the only reason this thread is even here.
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10/06/2014 09:29 PM (UTC)
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It's not the worst news ever but it is another disappointment.
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10/06/2014 09:30 PM (UTC)
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I called it.

congrats

upvoted.


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10/06/2014 09:31 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Can't anyone just be happy we're getting something?


*Raises hand*

I'm happy. wink
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10/06/2014 09:35 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Ok, now I see...I think.

If I'm a hypocrite for wanting a more well balanced roster when it comes to the returning characters and not just one particular group that's been in a plethora of titles, then file me underneath the heading. That sad, I highly doubt if the people complaining had their favorites in and the roster was still 24 characters that peace, love, and harmony will be drifting throughout this thread. The fact of the matter is the people who's favorites are in now and who are turning their noses up at those who are bitching would be doing the same exact thing if the roles were reversed. "What?! Tanya made it in over Sonya? FUCKING ABOMINATION!" "NO SCORIPION, NO BUY!".

And why is that? Because everyone will never be happy. Another side effect of life. And that's just something you have to deal with. If people aren't happy, if people are disappointed, then let them be. Most of these people will bitch and vent, get their feeling out, and get back to being hype. But stop trying to police feelings and opinions. (That's not just to you, but to everyone in this thread)


I can promise you that this thread would not exist if the OP had his/her favorite in the game. Somebody else who didn't have their favorite in would've made it. That's literally the only reason this thread is even here.


Very well, but the issue at heart would still be present rather or not the thread existed. People will be disappointed with anything. Right now it's roster/characters, in a few months it can be story, a few months after that gameplay ect.


Let people feel how they feel. Because it won't change. Not with MKX, or MK11 ,or MK12 ,or MK13 ect. It's a cycle and apart of the usual "hype" upon the release of a new MK game. There will be people who will love everything they see, people who hate everything they see, people who change their minds from love to hate or hate to love, to those who are indifferent ect. It's a part of the "season".
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10/06/2014 09:37 PM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
Ok, now I see...I think.

If I'm a hypocrite for wanting a more well balanced roster when it comes to the returning characters and not just one particular group that's been in a plethora of titles, then file me underneath the heading. That sad, I highly doubt if the people complaining had their favorites in and the roster was still 24 characters that peace, love, and harmony will be drifting throughout this thread. The fact of the matter is the people who's favorites are in now and who are turning their noses up at those who are bitching would be doing the same exact thing if the roles were reversed. "What?! Tanya made it in over Sonya? FUCKING ABOMINATION!" "NO SCORIPION, NO BUY!".

And why is that? Because everyone will never be happy. Another side effect of life. And that's just something you have to deal with. If people aren't happy, if people are disappointed, then let them be. Most of these people will bitch and vent, get their feeling out, and get back to being hype. But stop trying to police feelings and opinions. (That's not just to you, but to everyone in this thread)


I can promise you that this thread would not exist if the OP had his/her favorite in the game. Somebody else who didn't have their favorite in would've made it. That's literally the only reason this thread is even here.


Agreed.

ReptzMK Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
Can't anyone just be happy we're getting something?


*Raises hand*

I'm happy. wink


Hooray!!!! One happy camper!!!
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10/06/2014 09:51 PM (UTC)
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Let people feel how they feel. Because it won't change. Not with MKX, or MK11 ,or MK12 ,or MK13 ect. It's a cycle and apart of the usual "hype" upon the release of a new MK game. There will be people who will love everything they see, people who hate everything they see, people who change their minds from love to hate or hate to love, to those who are indifferent ect. It's a part of the "season".


If you wanna gripe, vent, or complain then be my guest. I'm not telling you or anyone how to feel. NRS can't please everyone, so some people will be unhappy. 100% understand that.
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10/06/2014 09:57 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
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ReptzMK Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
Can't anyone just be happy we're getting something?


*Raises hand*

I'm happy. wink


Hooray!!!! One happy camper!!!

Two happy campers!!! wink

ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
It was simply a way of saying, if these other hugely popular characters are having a hard time making it in, then Post MK3 characters are pretty much fucked.

And how bitching about it will change things?
Roster of the game is decided before it enters full scale production. The same goes for DLC. Sorry, but your train went away and there is nothing you can do about it.

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Are you seriously saying Raiden, Sonya, Cage, Liu ect AREN'T overused when compared to them?

No. They are one of the most popular character in the series and this is why they are pretty much in every game.

Since MKDA-MKD newcomers failed to generate enthusiasm in the general audience and fans circles they are not popular and MK-Team do not want put efforts in characters, when 3/4 of audience don't care about them (and no, you are not the whole audience as neither am I). It's simple. There is nothing unfair, illogical or anything like that.

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If neither changes anything, why would one actively choose to be negative focused and unhappy about it?

It's a modern trend: whine about absolutely everything. And beyond.
Everything should be turned into tragedy and drama, from high-heels to Moloch's head. Guess, those people just subconciously want to some attention.
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