Whether it's set and stone or not, boo fucking hoo. You're gonna buy the game nonetheless.

I swear, anything that gets shown will always have a dramatic complaint behind it. And yes, it's dramatic, because you're over reacting to something that isn't confirmed at all yet. No need to get your panties in a bunch over nothing solid.

Called it. It's a nice number. The variation system makes every character feel three times as versatile as MK9 characters, so yeah...

Game will actually ship with 26, if they're not counting Goro and the console exclusive guest, which is only a little bit less than MK9.

The guest will most likely be one of the 24 spaces. Just as Kratos was on the select screen in MK9.

I'd just like to point out that the guest character will almost certainly be part of the DLC roster, along with Goro. That roster would be separate from the base 24, if that's indeed the number. Thats how it was in Injustice. It was actually the same in MK9 too. Kratos was just the initial character of the expandable DLC character list.

However, even though the 24 number is anything but final, it's not a bad number. I want a balanced, tight fighting game. Quality over quantity is exactly how I feel and the approach that I hope NRS is taking.

If you're bummed about that number, then start blowing up Ed Boon on twitter. There will be a pretty good number of DLC characters so theres still plenty of room/time for anyone.

Lastly, there are a LOT assumptions being made. Thats partly the reason for all the dissappointment. Dont assume you know who's in or out. All this Liu, Johnny, Sonya talk is still very premature. I actually think those are prime DLC candidates.

P.S. Hyperbole can be very annoying.

I think we're only getting 24 (26 with Goro and the guest), but 6-8 DLC (Goro may or may not count towards the figure). People who expect a 30+ roster at launch were begging for disappointment.

The variation system requires an extended balancing stage and probably twice as much thought and work put into every character. Also, it seems like characters have their own models now (unlike in MK9, where all the females shared the same model, etc.); Cassie is significantly shorter than Quan Chi, whereas in MK9 they'd be the same height (or close). The characters feel like they were given more attention and polishing as a result of the slightly-smaller roster. So yeah, quality > quantity.

Now, I can understand the disappointment of people who expected some more MK5-7 revamps. I'm in that camp myself. It seems NRS isn't interested in revisiting them (can't blame them), and would rather create new characters. I can still see 1 or 2 making it in (DLC included), but don't get your hopes up for much more.

As for MK2-3 characters, yeah... I can't see more than 2 making it in the launch roster. I think Kitana/Mileena and Reptile/Ermac. If you expect someone else, start praying.

As for people complaining about MK1 getting completely represented... again: I would agree if it wasn't for the variation system. I always thought Kano and Raiden were boring, but now they look fun as hell. If they can do the same with Johnny, Sonya and Liu, I don't mind seeing these faces again. Plus, NRS loves these characters most of all, for obvious reasons, and was probably very excited to see them all become fresh again with three variations.

Based on the comments before that the roster would be about the same size as MK9 I think it is a possibility that there will be 24 characters available on the initial select screen with perhaps 4 that are unlockable. That would be 28 characters shipping with the game, not including Goro if you pre-order to the game and get the code to unlock him, too. Then of course you could have 6-8 DLC characters made available later.

If this turns out to be the case I will be very satisfied.

If that's the case, well, that sucks, but it's only one less character, so I can deal with that. 23 is still good. I'd only start getting upset about the roster if it was less than 20, but even then, we're getting a lot of DLC.

But I'm not even sure you're right about that. Kratos was only on the main roster until Skarlet came out, when he was replaced by a 2nd Cyber Sub and shoved off into the DLC sidebar. So it really depends on how DLC is implemented on the select screen. If it is done the same way, you may be right. But if not...


And now you're getting your hopes up at the idea that there are several unlockable characters, which nothing has given any indication towards. Why do you guys do this to yourself? Accept the least-pleasant outcome and you'll either be unfazed when proven right or pleasantly-surprised when proven wrong. Gluttons for disappointment, the lot of you. Don't say I didn't warn ya.

Why wouldn't there be any unlockable characters? MK has always had them. Quan Chi was unlockable in the last game.

Well, I mean any unlockable characters would still physically be on the main roster, no? So they'd still be a part of the 24. Unless you're suggesting secret, hidden ones like MK4 Noob or MK5 Mokap/Blaze; I don't think MK is doing that anymore.

I have the feeling that people who are like "Chill man 24 is a great number don't be greedy" are those who already got their favs in their game. I don't like 24. Yes the characters are very fleshed out with the 3 variations but if I would pick 30 characters with one fighting style, over 24 with 3 fighting styles ANY DAY. Coz that lessens the chances of my favs being in. I mean Sheeva and Rain have no chance of appearing and the only one I was hoping for was Mileena. I would love to have many 3D era returnees but at least if Mileena was in, I would at least settle for 24. Now it would just be painful if no character that I like returns :/

What are you talking about? Quan Chi had to be unlocked in story mode in MK9.

lol

>implying you will play as all 24 characters or 3X whateverthefuck anyway.

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I thought we've been over this? 24 characters is not a confirmed roster number

In fact all other interviews lie that the game would count 30 characters not counting cameos, DLCs, and bosses. And would not add a character at the pre-sale if the number of playable characters will be so small 24 + 30 + Guest Goro and then have the DLCs. Otherwise I for one will at least wait out the latest version of the game to buy it and more than two thirds of the audience goes along.

You don't sound like an MK fan; you sound like a fan of three select characters from MK. If you can't find enjoyment in an MK game because it doesn't feature your favorite character, even though there are 25+ different characters for you to choose from, you don't have my sympathies. Reptile, Baraka and Kabal are my faves; I don't see them anywhere and I wouldn't mind it if none of them were in the game. I can find new favorites.


I respectfully disagree SO MUCH. Nevermind. Pointless to go on about.

Also to mention that developers say a lot of shit about a game that's not done yet.

Or did we forget how Injustice was supposed to have a bigger and longer story mode than MK9?

Hrmm....

24.....

Kiefer Sutherland...

Jack Bauer confirmed?

Guest character.

This! You know it's bad when we're PRAYING for even the likes of iconic characters like Kitana/Mileena/Reptile/Ermac to make it in.

And everyone keeps acting as if we're getting a large amount of DLC. Sure, it would make sense to role out all the ax'd favorites and rake up some huge cash but who knows. We can just as easily get 3 or 4 DLC characters(with yet another guest included like Freddy for MK9).

I sure wish for once I could sit pretty and enjoy the fact that my favorites made it in. At the end of the day, you're paying for this. If you're not happy with 24 characters and want more- you have every right to feel that way. There should be no "shame" in that and nor should you be labeled as "greedy" because of it.

possibly, but I don't think the select screen with 24 spots being the same since E3 is a coincidence. they say it isn't final, but they said the same about MK9 and Injustice and we know how that worked out...

The last game spoiled people. It can't be Trilogy every time with all of your classic favorites making it in. This is not a compilation game or remake of all three Trilogy era games- it's a new, regular installment of MK. Remember how Raiden was not in MK3(not even Ultimate)? Remember how Mileena was not in Deadly Alliance? Kano and Sonya absent from MKII?

The point is this: in a regular MK installment you're not going to get every single fan favorite coming back. That's just how it's always been. It's just been a decade now really since we've had a true regular MK installment. The last one before MKX was Deception IMO.

LOL. Funny idea.

I don't have any favorites in the game and I am satisfied with that number, becasue: 1) even if number is bigger there is no gurantee for you favorite characters to be the game and 2) even if none of my favorites are in the game I pick new ones from the available roster. I don't see point over losing my sleep because some fictional characters didn't end up in the game, which I hadn't done myself.
It's senseless, illogical and stupid.

This is what I have been saying.

People expect the world, or for things to go exactly as they expect or desire, and then act disappointed and complain when it isn't what they expected. Expectations...expectations.

Expectations of marketing techniques and frequency.
Expectations of character count.
Expectations of story direction.
Expectations of box art.
Expectations of characters used in marketing materials.
Expectations of characters returning.
Expectations of female/male ratio.
Expectations of character appearance or fatality.
Expectations of no guest character(MK purity!!1).

I expect this sort of stuff from someone who is new to the world, who hasn't dealt with disappointment in life and how to manage expectations effectively and maturely... But c'mon...we're all old enough, and so many of us have been coming here for years and years, to know that expectations, especially high ones, or specific ones, are just going to disappoint you.

The only thing for certain is that nothing is for certain. Expect very little to nothing, you'll be a lot happier and less stressed/frustrated/disappointed in life, and that applies here.

A prime example is the user MINION. The dude was always sporting Stryker leading up to MK9, he got what he wanted, he was excited and happy. Come Injustice, he was all about Martian Manhunter, when it was revealed he wouldn't be in the starting roster, he blew gasket on those who tried to cheer him up and remain positive. He was completely distraught at the fact that the character he thought was a shoe-in, that he spent so much time getting hyped about being included, didn't make the cut. At first, he wasn't even happy about a potential DLC inclusion, but after calming down and realizing he had his expectations into overdrive, he realized it'll all be good in time, and the game will still be great.

Expectations man...expectations. Expect nothing, hope for the best, it's usually gravy from there. :)

You don't even know what you're talking about. I've APPLAUDED the fact that this game is going in a new direction, just as I've APPLAUDED the fact that it's sticking the middle finger up at those who want to remain living in 1995. This has nothing to do with wanting to "relive Trilogy". This is just me wishing some other cool characters that we haven't seen in 8-10 years could return with a cool design and kick some ass. As I said, I'd be fine with 24 characters if they were well diverse, but most of the returning characters are the same tired stagnant characters. Raiden....whooopy! Sonya and Cage, along with their daughter? How heartwarming. *yawn*.

And do not speak to me like a child. I understand not everyone favorites can get in every game, which is why some of these characters should take a back seat.

I'm not wanting 60 + characters. I'm not wanting fucking Mokap and Meat. I just want a little "surprise". Someone like Fujin or Tanya or Havik. Characters who fans like that haven't been relevant since 2004 or prior.

How is it that every disagreement on this forum about the roster spawns from this? It always comes down to favorites.

I will buy this game if Kung Lao, Fujin, and Shinnok are in or not. Would it be awesome if they were in? Fuck yes. But I understand if they're not.

24 isn't even the confirmed final number anyway. I CANNOT stress this enough. So really people need to chill about this because it is still up in the air. And besides, there's always DLC.