You'd be wrong. Cyrax is my favorite, has been since MK3. He was left out of Deception, still enjoyed the game, because I'm a fan of MK as a whole, regardless if my favorite is included. Also, I like several other characters, because you're only hurting yourself is you latch onto 1 or 2 B-C tier characters and it hinders your enjoyment of the game if they aren't included. But I still stand by 24 characters being perfectly acceptable.

Dude, just let me be pissed. Why are you boo-fucking-hooing me?
My wife won't let me get pissed at home, my boss won't let me at work.
It's a fuc**** forum, that's why I'm here. I'm just not happy with the roster being 24ish. If that's not confirmed, then I don't know what CONFIRMED means. It will be around 24 (meaning 26 max., unlikely!)

So, excuse, I'll just stay pissed

No reason to complain yet then. Most of the roster hasn't been revealed. Hell, even with my low-ass expectations, I do expect at least one MK4-7 character who isn't Quan Chi or Shinnok. Otherwise, yep, there wouldn't be any real surprises, which means NRS would have been talking out their asses in earlier interviews (unless we get get the most random MK2-3 characters, like Sheeva or Stryker).

If there isn't a single MK4-Deception character I've waited 10 years for, to accommodate the likes of Kang, Sonya, Cage for their 1000th return (and their SLOT WASTING daughter Cassie FFS), I will probably flip a table and seriously consider giving this game a skip, or waiting a few months til it's bargain price. I know I'm ranting, but previous sequels have always included a good range of characters from across the entire franchise. I don't mind the roster number of 24 so far as the 24 they're choosing to include. THIS IS A POOR MIX. We've waited 3 years since MK9, hoping and expecting one thing, and so far they've lunged off in this silly quasi-Street Figther 3 like tangent.

I'm done with the "Oh not all's been revealed yet", "I didn't really want X but he looks cool here so I'm okay with them skipping over Y". No. That's horseshit.

I know there are people happy with the roster so far, but I haven't had a single character I like announced yet, it's starting to piss me right off, not even some decent post-MK1 reveals, and stories like this do not help fill me with faith or confidence.

24 is a piss poor roster number when you're skipping over so many highly requested characters to accommodate many who were not popularly requested this time and already over-exposed, plus the unnecessary new fodder who'll mostly be instantly forgotten and never included in an MK sequel again anyway.

You won't be missed, BYE!

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With the limited roster size, i'll take some of my favorites like Sonya, and Cage, as DLC characters post launch. They're big part of the storyline anyway, and they'd be good sellers.

It'd be painful to have Kenshi as DLC again, not being part of the story mode again, but it'd still be better than nothing, but here's hoping he's an initial character since he'd be perfect for the 3-variation system in this game and he's post MK3.

Tanya also needs to be in the game, at launch. But i'm not holding my breath.

That was well said.

24 sucks. Sorry, I just think it sucks. If that makes me a scummy entitled spoiled ingrate who is "not a REAL mk fan" well then excuse me for wanting a little more.

Also a bloated roster is 59 not 30-36.



Wow were you at EVO?

How I live my life.

Well, that escalated quickly.

I honestly was not meaning to be a dick to you, man.

How so?

Since when are they guaranteed inclusions each game? Ermac wasn't in MK4 or Deadly Alliance. Mileena wasn't in Deadly Alliance. Kitana and Reptile were left out of Deception. Reptile, Ermac, and Mileena were left out of MKvsDC(it's relevant because they based their inclusions on iconic recognizability).

So no, that's not a solid point to make. Favorites are excluded in any game that isn't supposed to be a compilation/nostalgia trip such as Trilogy or Armageddon. And for every Ermac and Reptile, you have a Noob and Smoke that you could apply the same argument. For every Kitana and Mileena there's Sonya and Jade. And there's about 15 other characters you can claim that have that "iconic status" that's somehow a guarantee that they'll make it each time. But the fact is, people will be left out. Favorites will be left out. The only real guarantees are Sub-Zero and Scorpion, and to a lesser extent, Raiden.nbe it 24, 26, or 28. It's never gonna be enough to include them all and bring in a bunch of new, as well as MK4 and onward characters. 24 is fine. The best part about your favorite not being included? It opens up an opportunity for another favorite. Unless your favorite is Sub or Scorp, you've had the opportunity to like other people. I recommend everyone broaden their interests and not hang onto a couple of characters.

Whoops! I meant I WANT... not was. I'm a derp. hahaha

Voice of reason.

You know it's bad when we're PRAYING for even the likes of iconic characters like Kitana/Mileena/Reptile/Ermac to make it in.
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That is SO well said. Here's some PRAYING for Kung Lao, too.

Exactly. 30-36 is the bare minimum seem like for fighting games these days. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting that. As I said, we're paying for this. We have every right to not be happy with the roster number. I could see the shaming if people were screaming out absurd numbers like 50 and 60 or more characters.

How am I wrong if that is just my opinion? I don't like 24 as a number of characters. Plain and simple. It doesn't make it a good or bad choice on the developers' part coz it's just my unimportant opinion.
You probably misunderstood me. I have many characters I like in the franchise. Ermac, Reptile, Tanya, Fujin, Havik, Ashrah, Nitara, etc. However I have 3 main favs like I am sure everyone else does. The fact that Sheeva and Rain are C-tier characters doesn't mean jack to me. I know they won't appear in the next game (or possibly any other game for a fact) but it still doesn't change the fact that I love them. And I was ecstatic that I got to play the shit out of them in MK9.
I have settled on just one of my fav characters appearing in this but 24 means even Mileena might not make it. And I would hate that. I would be absolutely gutted. And having none of the characters I mentioned above would make things even worse for me. Would that mean I wouldn't buy and support the game? Hell noes! But I still think I have the right to be disappointed.

That was SO well said. Thank you. I also find it extremely hypocritical when some of those people are complaining about getting Cage, or Sonya, or Raiden saying "the same old boring characters" and then... CRY about Reptile, or Ermac, or Kitana or Mileena being left out. Please. As if they haven't been given the same chances.

Just deal with it. Thankfully Kano and Raiden and Cassie look great so i'll be playing them if none of my mains from previous games make it in the game, but i can see why MK4-MKA characters' fans are dissapointed since they really haven't been given the chance to shine, but the classic characters' fans need to deal with it.

If you're not happy with the roster number, then don't buy the game. Don't make it sound like you are being forced to buy it. If you feel that strongly, then let your wallet speak for you.

24 along with 6+ DLC is a fine roster size for a AAA fighting title. Don't state otherwise as fact.

Yeah i agree. Obviously i'd like 30+ characters, but the game's being made from scratch, they can't just have 36 characters at launch before DLC or upgrade. The reason the Tekken games have so many playable characters is because they've been recycling yearls old models, movesets and animations. The reason Ultra SF4 has almost 50 characters is because they've updated the game for 5 years, the original SF4 arcade release had 16 playable characters.

MKX is being made from scratch, you just can't expect the game to ship with 36 characters like it's easy.

Truth^

I remember this all to well. Now that I look back I was so destined to see him in I didn't care about any other characters being in as much. But after he was included yes I was very happy. But I felt bad for others here alike who all had someone they want included to. I've mellowed out a lot since then and have a better outlook. Tremor is a prime example as of late. I'd like to see him included but if dlc or not at all I still have others in this game I will enjoy. Shinnok being one of those if playable. If not I'm sure ill feel compelled to give other characters love.

Plus, the returning MK9 characters are completely redone from the ground up. They are basically new characters...I don't understand the tired & boring characters comments.

Last I checked this was a FORUM. I can speak my opinion and give my thoughts on any subject, the same as you, just because you do not agree doesn't mean I have to "be quiet". Believe me, I WILL let my wallet speak for me if I'm not happy with the game, but that doesn't mean I'm going to not speak my opinion and chime in just like every other user on this site.

And I never stated ANYTHING as fact- in the post above I said it "seems" which obviously mean it's coming from my point of view. I've been stating strictly my opinion this entire time. It may be passionate, but it's mine.

And As I said before, I'm fine with 24 characters. I'm just not happy with some of the characters. Big difference. That said however, I DO support those who want more characters than 24 because they have every right to want more. Just as you have every right to not want more and be completely fine with the roster as it is.

My issue with this is (Not to offend anyone who likes these characters) I'm sick and tired of seeing the MK1 characters return. They need a rest. Scorpion and Sub-Zero I'm fine with, they're the faces of MK. However, Sonya, Johnny, Liu, Raiden, Kano, Shang.... they need a break. The games I always found the most enjoyable were the ones that sorta deviated from that path and had less MK1 characters in it than the others (prime example; Deception).

So far, every returning character we've seen has been an MK1 character (excluding Quan Chi). I understand it's all marketing but it's frustrating. Yes, we are getting new characters in this, a lot of them. But yes, there are many characters in this franchise that out-right DESERVE to be given the spotlight again yet time and time again we see the same old, same old just with a different dressing.

It's like eating steak every week except the only difference is you change the topping sauce so it's "different". Just because we have new 'variations' on classic characters doesn't make them anymore 'new and exciting' or more worthy than any others.

Yes, I'll still buy this game but it's getting to the point where, honestly speaking, this series is becoming stale to me (and I hate saying this because I love MK) but they FOR THE LOVE OF GOD need to give some characters a rest for a game or two.

I think it's more about the fact that those characters always get the opportunity to be "completely redone from the ground up". What about some other favorites who's been missing in action for nearly a decade? Throwing in one here and one there won't hurt anything.

"For every Kitana and Mileena there's Sonya and Jade"

No. Just no. Kitana has a unique fighting style, and there's no way a die-hard fan like me will be satisfied with merely substituting her with Sonya or Jade. In fact, aside from tits, Sonya isn't even close to being anything like Kitana. Two completely different characters.

No Kitana, no buy.