Online tier-list...

Sareena,Scorpion,and Sub-Zero.

Then,in no paricular order...

Dairou,Tanya,Drahmin,Kabal,Mavado,Kung Lao,Quan Chi,and Noob Saibot.

Wow Kabal is up there? Why is he on there? Just curious

My own personal list of
MOST UNDERESTIMATED CHARACTERS:

Mokap
Hsu Hao
Meat

All thee of those guys are VERY powerful. Hsu Hao DESTROYS boss characters. His laser, hits and stuns them all, not to mention being one of the fastest moves in the game, combined with his hand slap push back, you can own most bosses from a full screen away. I know people hate him because he looks like a failed extra reject from a vandam movie, but hes suprisingly fast, and damaging.

Meat is one of the cheesyiest characters in the game, his throw that launches you in the air counts as a move, but works as a throw, and due to all the blood that splatters all the time, you cant tell if hes teleporting or sliding. Not to mention that his Teleport/Throw trap is even harder to escape than Kitanas.

Mokap is quickly becoming my favorite char, because he has some VERY EASY 40% damage combos, that always work, even under the laggiest of situations. The fact that he has 2 normal styances makes him very hard to predict, or to learn to block against.

(Id much rather see these types of lists, everyone and their mom has their own opinion of how the tier list should go, and sharing it serves no concrete purpose, except to tick off the fans of the characters you hate, not to mention that EVERY player is noobish right now because the game is still very new. Any opinions of cheapness will likely change in the coming months. Remember how long it took the infinites to ruin MK:DA? It was quite a while before they were widley known and used.)

In my opinion,he's still a very good character.Nothing has changed about him except that he has lost his damaging combos.Players think that the lack of 50%+ combos makes him below average.Of course that's not true as the damage that some characters can do in MK:A has been severely toned down from MK:D in the first place (at least online under laggy circumstances where most AC's don't work anyway).

So,with Kabal,you have one of the fastest punishing moves in the game,the Flash,as well as great 50/50 mix ups in his wep. stance (u+2,and 4,which plants now).Also,due to online's lag,you can also jump kick cancel (when your opponent blocks the jump kick) into wep. u+2 and 4.I think both of them are uninterruptable,which creates a mean 50/50 mix from a simple jump kick.Shit,even when the jump kick connects,you can cancel it into the Flash if you're fast,and then combo from there and set up your mix ups thereafter.

Finally, someone else who agrees that Kabal is good and up there. lol

Also, you can get free spins off some moves such as what you just mentioned concerning the jump kick and off of a fireball at mid screen(if you're fast enough) just buffer the dash right after your opponent is stunned off the fireball and you'll get a free spin.This worked since MK:D and still works in MK:A.


Another reason why Kabal is the man.Very fun character to play with.

Exactly.

And also - u+2 is unparryble.

Hookswords are so good.........

And about Mavado - Kabal.

I personaly prefer the spin over 10% more damage.........

I agree that Mokap and Hsu Hao are underrated. I can beat nearly anyone with those two. If you wanna beat a cheap boss, just sic the Sunmoon Blades on his arse!

Hsu Hao is good. He's not underrated - he's Mid upper tier.

Mokap is also very nice.

Meat is ok. The problem are his mids. You can just duck him.

I hate mokap, really annoying I must say with his 50/50's.He reminds me of a Dairou MK:D Escrima on speed at times lol.

And that flash TK move he has is annoying also and sets up sweet combos.

MKF,I'm sure you can get a free TS Drop after you block Mokap's flash special.Just buffer it real fast.

dave,try parrying those jumpkick cancels, and punishing them

im talking about the actual jumpkick, it might be easier to punish it afterwards.

try it out with me someday

You guys should note that experts can parry Kabal's flash if expected.

Rain seriously needs to be considered for top tier. He owns so bad!

Kabal has always been nice. Also, Rain is definetly under estimated but I'm good wit that. I want to be the best Rain there is.

GaiJin01 its really easy to see subby is top tier when he has great specials
1. A projectile that gives a free combo. (freeze ball) if i was to get a projectile to hit someone itd be this one.
2. A baiting and turtlin special (Ice Clone) easy to trick people into this special.
3. Icy pillar - good to get people off gaurd, projectile happy characters and to catch someone in their mess ups.

He has great mix ups like scorp but not as good but better than everyones elses. His safe combos, safe mids (free throw), unparryable kick and great low pokes. Im pretty sure a great subby player can tll you straight up why in DETAIL.

Hsu Hao is defintly not Upper mid tier , just mid (much better upeer mid tiers). Hes not as crazy as your making him out to be.
Meat Duck and pretty much safe. Rather eat his weak ass mids and be safe from everything else.
Mokap is a wonderful character, i can see him upper mid or top tier. Great low 13 damage poke.

Diarou is not top tier No WAY Your just biased fans especially m2dave.

Smoke is a character under rated, i see him as upper mid.

My list in no order

God Tier
Moloch
Blaze
Onaga

Top tier
Scorp
Sub
Noob
Serenna
Quan
Shin
Tanya
Drahmin
Kung lao
mavado

Upper Mid
Kabal
Smoke
Raiden
Mokap
Frost
Kitana
ill continue another time

Raidens is amazin in this game NO LIE!!!!!! AND I HATE RAIDEN

Gaijin, why do u get so upset when its very obvious that our connection lags horribly. I played you one game, just to see if its bearable. After seeing the lag i had no intention of playin you again. why else would i challenge you when i always see 0 stars for your ping? I just wanted to see if it got better than last time but it didnt. And if you say that you werent experiencing any lag, then that makes it even harder for me, since i had one of the worst lags i had seen. But i still played on. and won. I dont know if you are still tryin to tell me that subby is not top tier but there is no doubt that he is top. I even won with that horrible lag and according to you, it was fine at your end. That should show you how strong sub is.

What about Kitana and Mileena, and Jade? Explainations plz.

I need to know what's safe with Kitana. She's good, but I'm sick of all her stuff being so ridiculously unsafe. Even Ashrah was't that bad.

I hear she has 50%+ combos. I'd like to see them please.

All of them are nice.

Kitana is good. The Fan throw is great. Ba Gua b+4 and u+4 are good. Fans (the style) is safe for the most part.

She also has some nice easy damage wtih u+4, cs, 1,1, cs 1,2,2,4 about 50%.

Mileena, as someone said, is just a juggle waiting to happan.
d+4 and b+3 are not "scary" enough to try not to parry many times.

Her best move from MKD - 4, 4,1, d+1, throw, are all parryble now.

Jade is good. 3 is a mid. d+4 is great. You get a 50/50 from Throw, teleport.

She can be a real bitch to fight against.

I think the Tier List needs to be changed, Some characters are seeming better than the ones said and others made high are semming worse.

God Tier (what ever oder you feel)
1. Moloch
2. Onaga
3. Blaze

Top Tier(not in oder)

Scorp
Sub
Noob
Quan
Kung
Drahmin
kenshi
movado
(the next 5-8 are W/E >>>> but Shinnok, Serren, Tanya are debatable for characters like Mokap, Raiden, Bo Rai, Smoke, Kabal, Hotaru, Frost, Kitana, Kira, Sonya)

Upper Mid and MID VERY DEBATABLE RIGHT NOW

Low Tier

KAI More like KIA WORST CHARACTER
Shang
Nitara
Deagon
Kano
motaro
Sindel

Tanya is definitely top. I think possibly the best non-boss character, and easily better than characters like Kabal, Mokap, Sonya or Smoke.
As far as Kitana:
Ba Gua: u+4, cs, 1,1, cs, 1,2,2,4 - about 48%
I wouldn't be surprised if it's possible to get another 1,1 in there with Fans.

Raiden isn't all that great as some make him out to be for the guy that said he's really, really good, he can punished off his teleport so easily.It never fails online when I play the best Raidens, they're also tell ya not to teleport frequently but it's good when used wisely but still if anticipated very punishable.

MKF dude raidens a monster what you smokin, youre main reason is he can be punished on teleport??? I use tele to smart to be punished, You can only punish a tele if the Raiden player used it when there was no true purpose for it > like if the raiden player got impatiant because the other player just keeps ss and staying a large distance.

I can say the samething about jarek > i punish his Drop, charge and lasso and parry kick axe EASY all the time with smoke, subby AND RAIDEN(ETC). Raiden is a monster any way you look at it. HIS STAFF and REG STYLE ARE both monsters. His style are hard to be punished with all the buffering, jumping parrying tele and etc.

Raidens good ....... REAL GOOD. MAD EASY TO USE TOO!!!!!

Can anyone explain to me why Kenshi went from being one of the weaker characters in Deception to top tier in MKA?

Raiden is decent,but he's not too good.You cannot block for approximately 3 seconds after the execution of the teleport but who cares when you can cancel any move from it?Besides,his teleport still seems to freeze opponents (at least online) a little bit which gives the Raiden player the advantage.However,overall Raiden isn't too good.He can compete against most of the characters in MK:A,though.I just think that his game relies to much on f+1 (first stance) which isn't too safe (sometimes it is thanks to the lag online).f+1 is his only decent and medium-ranged mid that sets up mix ups.In weapon stance he has good moves but no mids at all.With Raiden you're stuck doing f+1,teleport into mix ups.He has lost all of his damaging combos from MK:D because of the lack of a third stance and the fact that MK:D's OTG glitch has been removed in MK:A.

Off-line he's no better than a mid tier in my opinion.f+1 is ridiculously unsafe off-line as are most of his moves.Thus,you're probably going to turtle with him a lot and punish your opponent's moves with 2,1,CS into aerial cancels.Raiden is decent but lag really helps him a lot especially on f+1.

Also,Jarek doesn't really have a distance game despite what his moves look like.His Rhino Drop is jumpable on reaction,and great players will jump it 90% of the time.His Flying Kicks is not very safe at all.For example,Dairou gets a free TS Drop after he blocks it.Same with Lasso (that's very slow anyway and glitches a lot online which usually doesn't favor the Jarek player).I also think he lacks a nice launcher.Off-line he might be a little better.Easy 75%+ combos from Lasso.

Kenshi is just very good since others have been toned down anyway.Easy 45%+ juggles after u+2 (wep. stance) which is basically safe online.Consider that with a nice teleport and decent lows,and he's very good.Good turtle character with nice juggles (and many damaging and infinite combos off-line).

I have to disagree completely. Raiden has so much more than F+1 in Nan Chuan. Any PAL player who has seen me use Raiden can tell you there's more to him than F+1 and how much of a pain he can be. It's not his only mid and most definitely not the one you should be relying on. Also, his combos, throw and sweep create a nightmare mix up if combined well with Staff.

And despite no mids in Staff, he has several excellent moves within the stance that make him own. It's to the point where when I take the Staff out most just turtle.

I can pass on some Raiden knowledge if you like. I'm sure HJS can back me up on how much of a pain Raiden is when used correctly. Raiden is way better than you give him credit for. People just don't use him enough.