I've been asked many times in PM wo post some easy combos, so they are updated in the first post.

Blaze 48% - (not sure if it's 48, might be 47 I don't really remember)

1,2, b+2, 1,1 (wall), 1 (wall), 1 (wall), f+1 -48%

Ashrah new 43% - Kriss - d+2, 4,3,2 (wall), d+2 - 43%

Also, I've posted Xbox legend, please correct me if it's wrong.

Sareena

f,f+1, b,f+2, b,f+2, b,f+2, b,f+2, b,f+2, throw

7 hits,32%.All unbreakable after f,f+1.Throw connects even though your opponent is in the air.

Sareena

b,f+2 (AA/your opponent in the air), b,f+2, b,f+2, b,f+2, b,f+2, b,f+2, throw

7 hits,38%~40%.Unbreakable.

These two work online,too,but watch out;the free (air) throw glitches online like nothing else.It leaves you punishable when the glitch occurs.

hmm, it seems that you can knock people into hazzards and deathtraps with your kak's air weapons style if you end the air kombo with 3. comes in handy a lot.

"Anyway, does anyone have any tips on how to use Shang Tsung?"

Yeah, pick him and lose. He's by far the worst character in the game and lacks any kind of tools that would help him win series vs anybody.

He makes MKD Kira look good. It's a shame, one of the cooler MK characters done so badly for his possible last game.

Indeed


Kano 55% -

Xing Yi - u,u+1 u+4, cs, jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,3,4,cs 1,1, 1,1,4,3 - 55%

I think you can go to 60+ with relaunch.

Shang stung is only as good as you make him. First off snake is very different then in MKD. Now, his snake lake the depth of its last version but I noticed that his up2 is faster and hits a a higher% when countering. Now, you must master 4. It does good damage, recovers quickly and hits mid. I think his safeness in snake his good but his sword sucks. The soul steal move is good and his fiire ball is fast but I dont know the advatage of the circle fireballs. And the trip special is good but use it sparingly.

"Old news" hardly seemed to be the consensus when I posted it.

heres a decent Noob combo (hard as IMO hes kinda tough to work with)

Troll Hammer: 3,...CS....(dont count as hit just change while opp is in mid air)...1,1,CS=34-38% U shud end up back in troll hammer at the end

Sub-Zero:

All combos start in Kori blade:

b+2, cs, 12, 12, b,f+4 -------- 36%
b+2, cs, 12, 124, b,f+4 -------- 40%
b+2, cs, 12, 113cs -------- 38%

BTW you put the damage for Stryker's combo wrong on the first page. It's actually 39% if all the hits connect.

Question: What player/opponent are you guys basing your percentages off of?

You guys do realize that the percantages vary from player to player, right? Try this and see for yourself if you dont know this already. It seems to me that Shuginko is the weakest out of all the players. So for this thread I suggest in order to get a better more accurate percentage one should use shujinko as the opponent/base player. That way everyone is on the same page here when posting out damage percentages.

... Just an observation I made and a suggestion I wanted to give.

You obviously have never played a good Jack if you say he has no wakeup options. This is the wrong thread for Tekken talk, but if you talk about tekken, please don't spout nonsense thanks

I do see how Shang can be so bad, but what's with people like Konqrr and rayrokka saying that Shang is good? I don't understand. So that's why I'm asking about him.

If he truly is the worst, would you say that he's even worse than Kai and Shujinko?

Okay I don't know if the first message posted, and since I dont see it on this thread I will try this again...

You guys do realize that the damage percentages varry from player/opponent to player/opponent, right?

I have noticed that shujinko seems to be the weakest out of the bunch. Damage points will be higher with him. I don't know who your basing your damage points/percentages off of on this thread, but I suggest that you use Shujinko as the player for this. That way we are all on the same page. A good example of this is, that when you are reading off high damage points we are under the impression that the points were rewarded on someone other than Shujinko, but really you did use shujinko and did not mention this. I hope this makes sense?

how much does it vary? If it varies alot then using shujinko as the base doesnt make sense. It would be better to find the character that takes least damadge and use him as the base since the combo would be guaranteed to at least score the given percentage. However, if Shujinko is just an anomaly then any character will suffice.

Good point.

I don't really know how much he varies but I do know that it is by a lot.

Example: chameleon's big combo, the one everyone says takes 68% or something like that, well that one takes I believe 76% on shujinko - huge difference by my standards.

I tried the same combo on a few other characters and again not always the same results.

I do agree though with using someone with the lowest damage results though, I just dont know who that would be. My guess is that it might come out to be a boss and that would affect the combo.

Good point.

I don't really know how much he varies but I do know that it is by a lot.

Example: chameleon's big combo, the one everyone says takes 68% or something like that, well that one takes I believe 76% on shujinko - huge difference by my standards.

I tried the same combo on a few other characters and again not always the same results.

I do agree though with using someone with the lowest damage results though, I just dont know who that would be. My guess is that it might come out to be a boss and that would affect the combo.

I always tested all my combos on Sektor.

Shunjinko takes extra damage. Boss characters take less damage and can't be juggled(motoaro and Shao khan excluded). Other than that ALL characters take the same damage. I know this because I've been making money by taking my KAK through single player arcade and the juggle combo I use ALWAYS does 45% damage except on the instances I mentioned. Boss characters may not even take less damage, but just can't be juggled which then leads to less damage being done. I haven't really looked at that too much.

So I tried searching this site for some Jax strats, and didn't see any, which led me here, so I tried searching through this thread for some Jax strats, but got to about page 8 and decided it's not worth wasting that damned much time of my life over - this thread has a lotta pages yo.

I'd be pretty grateful if anybody could help me out with some Jax strats that I can compare to my own, either by posting some or by directing me to a previous post in this thread... You know, even a page number would be nice so I don't have to trawl through it all. Cheers.

Edit: I gotta say that this is getting pretty crazy actually. Finding shit is diff. ik. ilt. It's kind of ridiculous that there's only ONE thread for the discussion of the gameplay for every single character in the entire game on this huge fansite with thousands of members. It's a mess. It should be more like SRK or TZ and have forums for seperate characters, or at least one official thread devoted to each character. Please, for the love all that is holy give us seperate character threads so everybody doesn't have to contend with retards like me coming and asking the same questions over and over again. I know 60+ threads seems like a lot, but that's the entire purpose of this forum, it's supposed to be discussion of MKA.

Seperate threads would be great. I'm mostly a tekken and soul calibur player, I'm trying to get into MK but have no clue where to start reading and trying to keep up w/everything I see, all I conclude is parrying is new (don't know how to do it) and bosses take less damage and can't be juggled:( A newbie silencer would be great, char threads etc. I'm also trying to find tier threads and basically where to start. I know this is off topic also, but are there offline tourneys for this?

Jax...

Wep. 1,1 - this your main poke.It gives a free throw on hit.However,it can be easily side stepped and punished,so be careful how you use it.If you know your opponent will break the throw after 1,1,it's probably best you do his Ground Pound (d,u+3) after it.Also,just 1 gives you a free throw as well,and it may be a little safer than 1,1

wep. b+1 - mid pop-up.The range is poor,though,and Jax really can't exceed over 30% of damage after it.To take advantage of the lag online,once b+1 gets blocked immediately parry cancel after it.You will parry incoming attacks.Obviously be careful when doing this since if your opponent delays his/her attack,you're left very vulnerable

wep. b+4 - decent low.Very good range,too.But it doesn't track shit.

d,u+3 (Ground Pound;GP) - unblockable and unparriable.However,this move is slow (like most pound/slam moves in MK:A).Good players can jump this on reaction 90% of the time.If your opponent jumps the GP and he's very close to you,you can be punished for a short period of time,or you might have to deal with a 50/50 mix up if your opponent is too close to you

Machine Gun (b,f+4) - always side step before you do this.It will track better and easily catch jumpers,too.On block it's unsafe.On a miss (when Jax continues to fire all the rest of the bullets),you're a dead man.Shit,you're at -100.The Machine Gun hits HIGH though.This is so pathetic because if players duck it,Jax will fire all bullets,and you'll be punished at all distances.The Machine Gun is an OK move at best

Pistol Punches (d,f+1) - unbreakable,but it hits high.Very poor range.

throw - it's Scorp's throw from MK:D.A Ground Pound is NOT guaranteed after it as it was initially assumed.

I'm not even going to discuss his first stance since it sucks so much.The only move worth using is probably d+4.Your generic unparriable low.It's not very safe on block,though.

Combos:

Wep. 1,1, throw
Damage: middle 30's%

Wep. b+1, d+2, free GP (all unbreakable after b+1)
Damage: low 20's%

Wep. b+2,b+1, b+2,1,1,u+1
Damage: 42%
Note,this is your best punisher.Use this after parry online if the connection allows it.

Jax in general...

don't use him.I'm serious.He was meant to be played as a distance character but he can't even do that right.The only thing you can do is turtle with wep. 1,1 carefully and hope you won't get side stepped.Everything else you do can be reacted to.And is 10 pts. of unblockable damage worth losing 25% (or 45%-50% Vs. top tiers)?Is the Machine Gun really worth using for pathetic 9% of damage?If it misses,you're left very,very,very vulnerable both online and off-line.Jax's risk/reward ratio is just so bad,and that's why he's a bad character.Probably low-mid tier.Maybe a little higher.

I recommend using Scorp,Sub,Sareena,Quan Chi,Noob,Tanya,Drahmin,Mavado,etc. etc. instead.

PS:Yea,I've been preaching about sub-character forums since the release of MK:D on this site.But apparently the mods/admins aren't interested in putting some effort in creating something like that.They'd rather post some pointless reviews no one cares about as their daily update.

M2dave you are my saviour. Thanks a ton.

I tried and tried to get something worthwhile out of muay thai, but couldn't for the life of me find even a couple of really useful moves, it was getting pretty frustrating. I've been mostly trying to space and play tonfa b+4 for the majority of my Jax matches, poking with 1, punishing with b+2, b+1, b+2,1,1,u+1, and throwing out a few d,u+3's and d,f+1's here and there, with mixed results. Looks like I wasn't too far off the mark actually. I was completely unaware of the free throw off 1,1 so that'll be useful. I'll take what you said on board and see if I can try improve my Jax a bit anyway. I like playing lower tier characters sometimes though, just to be a non-conformist and enjoy the challenge, hah.

Anyway, thanks heaps, it's great.

Cyrax: Ninjutsu: b,f+ 1 air kombat 1,1,4 1,1,3,4= 38%

I try to update everything in the first post, it's all there.

As for Sub characters threads, I wish but it will not happen.

As for characters starters they are also in the first post, there just a few now but i'll update them. I'll also update Dave Jax's stuff.

If any other top online player update best moves, combos, stuff I'll update them.



Sonic Wave - That combo is escapable.