Ok I got the game tonight and got konquest out of the way. Couple of thoughts:
1. Just looking at the evil possibilities in KAK is amazing. As soon as I have the money for all the moves I'm going to make some of my friends lives miserable.

2. MEAT! Again i'm aware of highlevel play but I personally never bother to get to it but he looks like a seroius threat. I haven't checked his lows and mids since I was just comp stomping for fun but he has some serious power. His base throw is nothing amazing but he has two awesome ones in wrestling. One is a backbreaker that does 20% with no wepaon and 24% with and it seems that he lunges forward when he grabs giving it nice range. Combined with his teleport and you might be able to really screw people up. His other throw seems to actually grab low. I haven't tested it against crouching but basically you throw them up into the air for a free juggle or air combo. He also seems to have a health recovery taunt, but what really impressed me is that his slide has quite possibly no start up at all. If you do it right next to an opponent who isn't already blocking low I don't think it's possible for them to stop it on reaction alone. I haven't messed with cleaver much(had too much fun tele throwing) but it looks like it has decent variety. The only problem is see for meat is against the boss characters minus shao and motaro. He can't throw them, and his specials don't work on them which leaves you pretty much stuck in cleaver or with 2 of your best wrestling moves gone.
Also on the air combo's: I agree they're mostly useless but certain characters(like meat) have a string where instead of hitting them into the ground you uppercut them to continue the combo. As far as I can tell it's impossible to get out of without using a breaker since you never hit the ground. That might be worth looking into.

What isn't?

jades cyraxs,sektors, etc..

Are you sure?

hmmm does the gameplay feel like mkda?

from what i have seen...... NOT AT ALL!

could someone please answer this


Do you have the ability with the new combo system to be really creative in coming up with unique combo's?

Can you jumpkick into specials?
Can you punch people out of the air to start combos or beat someone in the air when they kick at you?

hmm they said it in another threat that gameplay sucks and is sticky
its a lot like mkda and that mkd gameplay was better :(

How long are the ladders? Do you actually have a choose your own destiny?

No, it's 8 fights, then Blaze.

apparently the inf i found last night with her isnt the same one you guys are talking about, i didnt know about that one, funny shit.

na this is air kombat inf, which u can rollout of, hence notmaking it a inf, but like 20 guys have unlimited air throws in their hand to hand styles.

first post hey guys! not sure if u noticed but no jumping punches..only kicks n throws

*cries*

Ah, so this one is real. You'd think they'd learn but oh well.

i havent found any infs yet (really havent been lookin) free throws still exist as ive done some.

air kombat is pointless. most of it looks retarted and feels slow. picture doing the combination, youre done, but the guy is still in the air kicking. it feels weird. i just stick to the short ones that are faster and dont look as dumb. it is cool to have a useful jump game back with jump kicks. no jump punches tho :(

the wakeup game looks good, but its pretty much pointless. you can be attacked while youre laying there (people can jsut walk up and sweep you)and all your wakeup attackes can be broke and parried.

the side step almost feels useless as well. for some reason it just isnt as useful as it was on the past games. it feels slower and you usally still get hit...maybe it all depends on the character you use?

as for throw escapes, there are none. other then combo breakers, youre stuck.

i been playing konquest more then the fighting game, lol. but so far, imo, the most useless character ive played so far is motaro. all his specials are telegrapghed very well and are useless. i havent played as everyone yet. my fav so far is reiko.

I thought I would tell you guys that I submitted hdtrans thread on mkd and da's broken gameplay to gamespots greg kasavin one day before he did his video review.

I dont know if this had any impact on him saying the fighting engine was outdated and other comments he made on the engine as he never got back to me, but it might have.

I wonder if the game is rentable yet as an alternative to buying it.

The air kombat is ok. It can be slow depending on what air combo you do.

I might be misunderstanding you, but you seem surprised at still being able to get hit while laying. You can get hit while laying down on the ground in any game with a wake-up game. Wake-up game gives you options, but it doesn't mean that your 100% in the clear, nor should you. It provides a cat and mouse game, whether or not your opponent wants to take a chance and hit you on the ground, or pay the price by getting hit from a mid or low-wake.

There aren't necessarily throw escapes in the game, but apparently some others who have tested out the mechanics of the game, you can use breakers against throws.

And as far as Motaro goes, I played him in practice mode, believing that he would be a slow character like he seemed in the gameplay vids, but this is a case where just because it "seems" that way, you don't actually know 100% for sure until you actually try it. When I was in practice mode, Motaro's moves don't seem slow to me at all. His "stance" move lets you do 4 different things, and if you have good timing, you can do some damage. It's almost like a mini-wake up move. If he seemed slow to you, then that's fine, maybe he did. For me personally though, he didn't seem slow.

-Apocalypse27

I would have liked it better if you could cancel special moves off attacks in the air, like in the 2D MK's or MK4.

Here I am trying to do a jump kick to teleport uppercut with Sektor and it doesn't work.

That would have been great for the air combos also, not just the old style juggles.

It looks like you can't do deep jump kicks, only head height kicks, which also sucks for juggles.

And I though Ed said you could do anything in the air that can be done on the ground?

Not so

And I found another glitch, the water ripples in goro's lair appear floating in the air, if you step in a certain area. It's the entire section a couple steps away from the wall on top of the water.

Check, I don't believe cyrax has any infinites or to the dude that said there was.

Jades infinite? lol I thought she was going to suck, so much for that.

Anyway, the good news is from what I've been reading and testing out on my own is that the roll and wake up prevent most if not all of them which is a good thing.

BTW, for the dude that said the wake up is pointless I disagree the wake up helps this game a million.

BTW, can someone tell me everything about the rolling.Do you tap block and hit up or down or just hit down and up like the other games or what?

I know how to do it, I just want to know if there's a way to keep rolling or roll faster thanks.I love staying on the ground after a knockdown, good tactics in this game.

Also, there are some ft's like sareena's jab, then FT etc but nothing that leads to anything insane from what I'm reading and my own messing around so that's great.

BTW, who has OTG's?


Also, something that nobody has mentioned so far but I've noticed.

I'll make a post about this to see if anyone else notices.

Cyrax's throw, it's a flip over throw when he's laying on his back.

Now, when I was playing the computer Cyrax did his MK:DA arm throw?

What's that about?

BTW, guys I just found out that the xbox version is better then the PS 2 version.Not knocking the PS 2, just stating what I've read, heard and watched on some of the reviews on the game.

So, apparently the xbox version is more polished which is good for xbox users.

Better graphics are pretty much a given with the Xbox vs PS2.

Unless you mean the actual game play.

Still working on getting online (anybody know of a good wireless device to connect with the ps2 bba?), but from single player and konquest standpoint I am 100% pleased with this. THough I must say, playing MK with a wakeup game is fuckin wierd.

Has anyone confirmed if jade inf is online/offline only?

Man, Kobra sucks now. But Taven looks like he might be beastly. Can't wait to get my hands on Daegon's double drakeswords.

-F.

"There aren't necessarily throw escapes in the game, but apparently some others who have tested out the mechanics of the game, you can use breakers against throws."

thats not new. you could break throws in mkd.

mkf, my wall otgs are still in the game. kenshi 221, bo f3, you do them as they land, off the wall, so is ermacs choy inf

and cyrax has a inf in first stance, but u can tech roll out of it, ive done 50 hits with him


some of the air infs can only be done in corner, but some are like jades and simple as fuck and can be done midscreen

i dont get people why dont understand it, i found it in 5 minutes,lol

and we tested it online, and wow, LOL, air kombat sucks online, combos period, miss em everytime,except kenshi

Pm me if u wanna learn the air kombat branch inf

peace

I hate Shiva's 3 in her weapon stance. More than half the time it misses, even if the opponent is right in front of you doing nothing.


sigh........

Come on midway, FOCUS!

On the plus side, I made the lightning guy from Big trouble in little china, pretty sweet. . Too bad you can't give him the spinning blades from the movie, or Sonya's from MK4......or can you?

KAF has this glitch where the moves weren't happening even though the character was grunting. The animations came out only when I assigned a move my self.

This game is riddled with little glitches like that.