MK_krazy Wrote:


Yes because we all know age shows intelligence. Oh what i would do for a roll eyes smiley.

Even with my so called lack of knowledge i managed to help someone out with there FAQ with fighting game term definitions. What have you done with your all mighty knowledge of fighting games.



I was thinking about changing my name for a while now and changing it to something that would spite a few people, thanks for giving me that drive again.



I don't see why it is a joke. Are you trying to imply that MK:DA and MK:D succeed?



The point flew well over your head. I was TRYING to say that how can you, I, or anyone else see this game having easy infinites or not. While the new implements are good for the game, if they are implemented badly it could seriously break the game. Like i was saying, if the parry window stays open for to long and has a quick recovery, we could have a turtle fest game, but with a game like Mortal Kombat you never know what type of game it will be untill it's released.



So i guess i can't say that Thierry Henry is a good football player because i don't play football at a professional level and only watch him.

I guess i can't say Tiger Woods is a great golfer because I don't play golf at a professional level, i don't play golf at all actually i just watch him from time to time.

See where i'm going with this? Even after all that there is a difference between understanding high level play and playing at high level at a particular game. I understand that in a decent fighter you must have a good risk vs reward system, in order to have a good risk vs reward system you must break the game down into frames and see how much of a advantage/disadvatage you are when at these times; start up and recovery on both hit and blocked and how much range the attack hits at. Now depending on how much of a advantage/disadvantage i am at i must find a way to utilize said move into my gameplay, whether it be used as a poke, mix up, counter move etc

Now using that and looking at a few Bo videos you can blantently see that his f+3 has superior range with great startup and recovery times. With Dairou you can plainly see his TS drop also has excellent range, with great start up and recovery times for what it's worth and juggles. This is just basing on a few videos you might see around.

You will have to play the game to get a FULL understanding, but you can still get a BASIS on whos goos and whos not without even playing the game and looking at a few videos.

Also, notice i never comment on people that have talk about the combo damage and what not, it's because I DON'T KNOW. I just comment on what i DO KNOW which is usually about the posts that represent fighting games stuff in general that happens to be in MK. So i might comment about the parry, okizeme, throw escape etc.



I can see you have no sense of humor. Remind me not to joke around a bit when your around.



And where would MK be without it's gore and fatalities? Exactly.



Oh how i see now! Thank you o' almighty one of fighting games i can only dream to have the knowledge you possess. Please teach me more, as i'm only a kid that when i am at a certain age i cannot learn no more untill i get older.



You seem to care enough about that you write a 50 page rant on how you don't like Tekken when someone was just making a simple COMAPARISON.

redsaleen02 Wrote:
ok time for my 2 cents.

mkf ill use your 3 words wake up, parry, throw reversal.

u bash teken, and u dont play sf games that incorporate these moves, so what the hell do u no about them and how they work. these moves require frames to work well. the mk team does not incorporate frame rates when they build games.

did the reversal work well in mkda???? HELL FUCKING NO,,, did the breaker work well in mkd , once again no.

why hav a parry and a breaker,???? dumbest thing ever.... reason breaker is to stop damage, the parry ( aka reversal from mkda) is added as a quick fix, to eliminate glitches they dont wanna test. is the parry good, yes, is the mk parry good no, cause is done half assed, and its purposes are false.

throw escape, u hav parrys, breakers, and no a throw escapes. throws had to much priority in mkd, quick fix will add a throw escape, which kinda was in mkd, it u both threw at the same time, there just changed the frmae rates, another half ass fix job.

and now the wake up, cant say much on this cause havent seen enoug, but it deff is no big deal. can u do a wake up attack after a tech roll??? no one knows. cause if i can just uppercut, which sorry to tell u is the same as qr into uppercut, low lick same as qr into poke. all moves that didnt plant, u had a wake up game to a point. so they didnt add a wake up game, they made all plants techable and when u get knocked down u are pushed a lil firther away. theres ur wake up game, u read into things, but they are moves u never played with. they didnt really add anything to this game.


making no moves plant is dumb.
having so many defensive escapes with a lack of offense it dumb.

this game will be a bigger turtle fest than mk2. cause the attacker will get raped.

m2dave Wrote:
Wow.You really surprise me,man.I thought I was reading one of MKF's posts.

I don't care that you don't like Tekken since everyone has their own taste,but the reasons you listed feel like something I've read on gamefaqs.com.Tekken has loose controls and bad movements?What the...?Even VF players admit that Tekken is definitely one of the best fighting games in these two categories.You don't like "masher friendly" characters like Eddy?Damn,fool.Eddy hasn't been top tier since Lord knows when.If you bitched about TTT's backdash or Mishima's Wavedash in that game, or about T4's poking oriented system and Jin/Steve, or T5's ridiclous high damaging juggles next to walls or Steve,etc. Sure,who could blame you for hating that,but this?It's like me saying I think SF:3rd Strike is a joke because I don't like the way you parry in that game or I don't like it because I think fireballs should be more useful.I hope that people call me ignorant (or worse) if I every say this.

I don't know,fool.You talk about Tekken as if it didn't have any mind games or any sort of skill or work to be good at it.I personally think you've never experienced high level Tekken play (if you think that anyway).

I hope you take no offense from my posts.I'm just surprised someone with your knowledge would be giving me such ridiculous and nonsensical reasons.

KillJoy Wrote:
Sorry to interrupt all the back an forth arguing... But I was wondering, in terms of gameplay, which game will MK:A be closer too. MK:DA, or MK:D?

I just remember a bunch of people saying MK:DA was superior to it's sequel, and I guess being a lower-level player I thought otherwise, and hopeing this is more like an improved MK:D, then an improved MK:DA.

Also, is universal tracking gone? If so this means it will be more useful to side step now right?

I never noticed they're was a limit to breakers, although sometimes when people are throwing out uber cheap attacks at me, relentlessly, it does seem that after a while I'm practically doomed. I just thought it was because I lost my cool and wasn't timming my breaks right.

So how many breakers and parries do we have per round? Is there anything else we have that's limited?

Fenix Wrote:
First and foremost, I applaud your efforts. I haven't seriously been a part of the MK internet scene since my first PS2 crapped out, but its nice to know that the gameplay heads have finally gotten their due, you certainly fought for it and I personally thank you for making MK a better game.

I was wondering though, since the tiers in MKD were basically decided by infinites, universal tracking, plant 50/50 garbage is it really safe to call tiers at this point? Or are we just operating on 'cheap' specials like TS drop, puke, and whose got fast lows / mids? I think Smoke's throw is about the only really cheap shit that could still take place, right? If it's been mentioend, I apologize for only skimming the 17 + pages of this thread.

I weep for Kobra, unless his air kombat options are exceptional, Kickboxing and Ashrah's weapon with his shit throw are a death warrant. Go Scorpion and Dairou I guess. Do the big guys still have stupid properties regarding trap / stun type moves? Also, return of neijin = hot sex.

Speaking of TS drop, does anyone have any ideas on what could possibly be done to make this a fair move? The way I see it, the only option is either make it blockable or make it slow as shit like Drahmin's drop. At E3 had they done anything to fix Scorpion's free damage bonanza, ie: hellfire? Subzero's ice hellfire thing is blockable right?

Lastly, there's like no info on kira in the main post, are her knives the same as Kano's still (crappy) and for that matter are Kano's still like Kano's (crappy)?

-F.

hjs-Q Wrote:
Dont you think besides special cases like Dairou, won't MKA be just two people standing throwing projectiles, and when someone comes to attack he eats a parry, pop up, combo, breaker etc......

What do you think?

redsaleen02 Wrote:
plants are a must in fighting games, im not saying everything should plant but u should hav atleast 2 per guy. they didnt add a wake up game, they eliminated plants, thats not putting in a wake up game, the jump alone is enuff to get away.

already proved i dont need bo, sorry subby, scorp, kobra. every one will just be running away, there will be no offense in mka.

mk lacks frame rates, and thats why all the stuff the added will backfire.
game is tested offline, if online lag makes the parry safe, game becomes unplayable. again frame rates, R and R.

yes plants might be in the game, havent seen real footgae, to german guys who spend more time looking at move lists and no shit about moves that are safe, and couldnt land a 5 hit juggle didnt show me enuff. as long as theres 1 plant per guy thats all they need.

real wake up came and how it works has not been showed. exaclty how many frames for a throw reversal hav not been show. and the low parry has not been shown.

u played capcom vs snk,, didnt like it i wonder why..

i bet u used c groove didnt ya???

if u answer yes, than all my questions got answered... and if yes, stick to mk3, cause you are gonna be in for a shock, oh wait u wont cause frames wont matter.

redsaleen02 Wrote:
QR is the wake up game... mka wake up game

d/b + 1 uppercut
d/b + 3 low poke

what the hell u think qr is

all they did was take away the plants. u could qr into and uppercut in mkd.

the wake up game is the same just about, they just took away plants, and prob spaced the knocks further away.

hjs-Q Wrote:
Will MKA be a turtle fest?

I was thinking -



With super fast projectiles and no delay between them.

With 3 breakers.

With parrys.

With Wake Up (no more plants bs).

Dont you think besides special cases like Dairou, won't MKA be just two people standing throwing projectiles, and when someone comes to attack he eats a parry, pop up, combo, breaker etc......

What do you think?