Noobsmoke92 Wrote:
Here we go again with this whole debate about Smoke and Sub-Zero being lovers...
Seriously,ppl,can't 2 adult males have brother bond and because of it some concern about each other and what happens to them? If I was in Smoke's place and my best friend converted to cyborg,I would run to him too and be sad as fuck as well. Does it automatically mean I have a crush on my best friend?
I swear,sometime folks see what they WISH and WANT to see. This whole Smoke/Sub-Zero angle people bring up every time is groundless and tiresome,actually.
Here we go again with this whole debate about Smoke and Sub-Zero being lovers...
Seriously,ppl,can't 2 adult males have brother bond and because of it some concern about each other and what happens to them? If I was in Smoke's place and my best friend converted to cyborg,I would run to him too and be sad as fuck as well. Does it automatically mean I have a crush on my best friend?
I swear,sometime folks see what they WISH and WANT to see. This whole Smoke/Sub-Zero angle people bring up every time is groundless and tiresome,actually.
Everyone knows they're brothers from other mothers, the crush thing ain't nothing.
I do feel, however, that Reiko may possibly be infatuated, or just obssessed, with Shao Kahn.
Or he's just a perv who gets a kick out of wearing other people's hats.
mintpuff •08/02/2012 03:26 AM (UTC) •
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Noobsmoke92 Wrote:
Here we go again with this whole debate about Smoke and Sub-Zero being lovers...
Seriously,ppl,can't 2 adult males have brother bond and because of it some concern about each other and what happens to them? If I was in Smoke's place and my best friend converted to cyborg,I would run to him too and be sad as fuck as well. Does it automatically mean I have a crush on my best friend?
I swear,sometime folks see what they WISH and WANT to see. This whole Smoke/Sub-Zero angle people bring up every time is groundless and tiresome,actually.
Here we go again with this whole debate about Smoke and Sub-Zero being lovers...
Seriously,ppl,can't 2 adult males have brother bond and because of it some concern about each other and what happens to them? If I was in Smoke's place and my best friend converted to cyborg,I would run to him too and be sad as fuck as well. Does it automatically mean I have a crush on my best friend?
I swear,sometime folks see what they WISH and WANT to see. This whole Smoke/Sub-Zero angle people bring up every time is groundless and tiresome,actually.
... no one's debating. I don't see any debate. :o I don't think it's canon but I ship it anyway because I can. :P
Noobsmoke92 •08/02/2012 03:46 AM (UTC) •
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Shadaloo Wrote:
You won the thread,sir.
annilation •08/02/2012 05:08 AM (UTC) •
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Sub-Zero is to Smoke what Kung Lao is to Liu Kang.
Liu Kang punched a fucking hole in Kahns chest. After Kungs death.
Kung Lao in his MKDA ending literally shitted on Shang Tsung.
On the other hand in the old timeline Smoke used himself as a decoy to allow Sub-Zero to get away from being a robot.
This, time Raiden trolls the shit out of both of them and Smoke has to watch Sub-Zero get captured. Then, Smoke helps Cyber find his true identity.
Liu Kang punched a fucking hole in Kahns chest. After Kungs death.
Kung Lao in his MKDA ending literally shitted on Shang Tsung.
On the other hand in the old timeline Smoke used himself as a decoy to allow Sub-Zero to get away from being a robot.
This, time Raiden trolls the shit out of both of them and Smoke has to watch Sub-Zero get captured. Then, Smoke helps Cyber find his true identity.
Scar_Subby •08/02/2012 05:25 AM (UTC) •
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annilation Wrote:
Sub-Zero is to Smoke what Kung Lao is to Liu Kang.
Liu Kang punched a fucking hole in Kahns chest. After Kungs death.
Kung Lao in his MKDA ending literally shitted on Shang Tsung.
On the other hand in the old timeline Smoke used himself as a decoy to allow Sub-Zero to get away from being a robot.
This, time Raiden trolls the shit out of both of them and Smoke has to watch Sub-Zero get captured. Then, Smoke helps Cyber find his true identity.
Sub-Zero is to Smoke what Kung Lao is to Liu Kang.
Liu Kang punched a fucking hole in Kahns chest. After Kungs death.
Kung Lao in his MKDA ending literally shitted on Shang Tsung.
On the other hand in the old timeline Smoke used himself as a decoy to allow Sub-Zero to get away from being a robot.
This, time Raiden trolls the shit out of both of them and Smoke has to watch Sub-Zero get captured. Then, Smoke helps Cyber find his true identity.
Not to argue but I think you mean Smoke is to Sub-Zero what Kung Lao is to Liu Kang.
Kung Lao is the sidekick just like Smoke is the sidekick. I get your point that they are friends, but I just had to point out that little nitpick.lol.
annilation •08/02/2012 05:53 AM (UTC) •
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Scar_Subby Wrote:
Not to argue but I think you mean Smoke is to Sub-Zero what Kung Lao is to Liu Kang.
Kung Lao is the sidekick just like Smoke is the sidekick. I get your point that they are friends, but I just had to point out that little nitpick.lol.
annilation Wrote:
Sub-Zero is to Smoke what Kung Lao is to Liu Kang.
Liu Kang punched a fucking hole in Kahns chest. After Kungs death.
Kung Lao in his MKDA ending literally shitted on Shang Tsung.
On the other hand in the old timeline Smoke used himself as a decoy to allow Sub-Zero to get away from being a robot.
This, time Raiden trolls the shit out of both of them and Smoke has to watch Sub-Zero get captured. Then, Smoke helps Cyber find his true identity.
Sub-Zero is to Smoke what Kung Lao is to Liu Kang.
Liu Kang punched a fucking hole in Kahns chest. After Kungs death.
Kung Lao in his MKDA ending literally shitted on Shang Tsung.
On the other hand in the old timeline Smoke used himself as a decoy to allow Sub-Zero to get away from being a robot.
This, time Raiden trolls the shit out of both of them and Smoke has to watch Sub-Zero get captured. Then, Smoke helps Cyber find his true identity.
Not to argue but I think you mean Smoke is to Sub-Zero what Kung Lao is to Liu Kang.
Kung Lao is the sidekick just like Smoke is the sidekick. I get your point that they are friends, but I just had to point out that little nitpick.lol.
Lol
Yeah I should have reworded that better.
SubMan799 •08/02/2012 06:28 AM (UTC) •
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We all know Smoke is the Robin to Sub-Zero's Batman.
Shadaloo Wrote:
and with that, nothing more needs to be said
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/MKO
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Jaded-Raven •08/02/2012 12:43 PM (UTC) •
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The whole "Smoke is gay and has a crush on Subbie" is just a theory! Nothing has been officially been proved, people can interpret their relationship the way they want, I think it would be cool if there was a character in MK who is a homosexual. Mortal Kombat has many various characters representing many different things, we have heroes, we have princesses, we have robots, we have black people, white people, Native Americans, we have the straight love relationship with Liu Kang and Kitana... So what is wrong with a gay character?
The relationship between Smoke and Subbie is a tight brotherhood, that was established from the start, it is even written in Smoke's bio and we've known that since MK3 where it was written in Subbie's bio, how he tried to flee from Lin Kuei with his buddy Smoke who was captured and then Subbie wanted revenge...
They are not gay lovers. We get that. But that doesn't mean people can make theories or write fanfiction about it... because, believe me, there are LOTS of fanfiction about those two.
To me, it just makes sense if Smoke would turn out to be gay. So unless the theory is disproved, that is how I will think of him. It isn't an official statement, but something I personally think would be cool. And the rest of you can think whatever you want to think, that doesn't matter to me.
Oh, and consider this... If Smoke is the Robin to Subbie's Batman, then I hope he will soon become like Nightwing - and independent character from Sub-Zero with his own agenda, his own plot and story, but still with ties to Subbie.
To those of you who don't know, before he was Nightwing, Dick Grayson was the first Robin, but he eventually stopped being Batman's sidekick and became an independent hero himself. Superman was actually the one who came up with the name Nightwing for him, as there was a hero back on Krypton who was once called the same.
The relationship between Smoke and Subbie is a tight brotherhood, that was established from the start, it is even written in Smoke's bio and we've known that since MK3 where it was written in Subbie's bio, how he tried to flee from Lin Kuei with his buddy Smoke who was captured and then Subbie wanted revenge...
They are not gay lovers. We get that. But that doesn't mean people can make theories or write fanfiction about it... because, believe me, there are LOTS of fanfiction about those two.
To me, it just makes sense if Smoke would turn out to be gay. So unless the theory is disproved, that is how I will think of him. It isn't an official statement, but something I personally think would be cool. And the rest of you can think whatever you want to think, that doesn't matter to me.
Oh, and consider this... If Smoke is the Robin to Subbie's Batman, then I hope he will soon become like Nightwing - and independent character from Sub-Zero with his own agenda, his own plot and story, but still with ties to Subbie.
To those of you who don't know, before he was Nightwing, Dick Grayson was the first Robin, but he eventually stopped being Batman's sidekick and became an independent hero himself. Superman was actually the one who came up with the name Nightwing for him, as there was a hero back on Krypton who was once called the same.
Jaded-Raven •08/02/2012 01:00 PM (UTC) •
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oracle Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
To me, it just makes sense if Smoke would turn out to be gay.
Because what straight man has hair that magical. To me, it just makes sense if Smoke would turn out to be gay.
His hair is a hint to a smoky wisp, not to his sexuality. It has nothing to do with his hair. That would be rather superficial to say someone is gay just because of how his hair is.
Baraka407 •08/02/2012 01:59 PM (UTC) •
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Huh. Smoke and Sub-Zero being gay? That's a new one to me. I wonder why that friendship is singled out in fan fiction and not Liu Kang and Kung Lao or some of the other buddy pairs in MK. Who knows, maybe they are.
On a side note... Wow, Raiden is getting thoroughly owned right now. It's kinda sad, really. I was hoping that he'd have a better showing than this. As much as some think he messed up the story in MK2011, I still think he's a better overall character than Bi-Han, but that's just my opinion and clearly I'm in the minority on that one. C'mon Sparky! Make the comeback!
On a side note... Wow, Raiden is getting thoroughly owned right now. It's kinda sad, really. I was hoping that he'd have a better showing than this. As much as some think he messed up the story in MK2011, I still think he's a better overall character than Bi-Han, but that's just my opinion and clearly I'm in the minority on that one. C'mon Sparky! Make the comeback!
Jaded-Raven •08/02/2012 02:05 PM (UTC) •
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Baraka407 Wrote:
Huh. Smoke and Sub-Zero being gay? That's a new one to me. I wonder why that friendship is singled out in fan fiction and not Liu Kang and Kung Lao or some of the other buddy pairs in MK. Who knows, maybe they are.
Huh. Smoke and Sub-Zero being gay? That's a new one to me. I wonder why that friendship is singled out in fan fiction and not Liu Kang and Kung Lao or some of the other buddy pairs in MK. Who knows, maybe they are.
Oh, believe, they are NOT singled out. ;P
Liu Kang and Kung Lao
Jax and Kano
Rain and Reiko (a personal favourite pairing of mine)
Quan Chi and Shang Tsung
Sub-Zero and Noob
Sub-Zero and Scorpion
Ermac and Kenshi
Reptile and Shang Tsung
Goro and Johnny Cage
And alot of other obscure ones. It's all out there, it's just a matter of looking the right places. XP
scorpio Wrote:
scorpion is the most popular and everyone knows it. yet he was put out long ago.
this poll and thread has gotten downright sad
scorpion is the most popular and everyone knows it. yet he was put out long ago.
this poll and thread has gotten downright sad
He lost to Noob-Saibot dude, not moloch, not meat, hell not even reptile (which I think the king of puns would have put up a good fight).
I think noob could beat scorpion again and i know subby will tear that azzup. These guys have done it before: Bi-Han did twice in MK:M(in scorpion's human and wraith form) and Kuai-Liang in MK9(MK2 era).
Noob's fan base has grown to impressive heights seeing that he only had a story in MK:D, MK:A, and MK9, all tied into his original story as the elder sub zero in MK:M and MK1.
Scorpion just isn't favored(not hated upon) among 'THE TRUE MK FANS' for a number of reasons.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
His hair is a hint to a smoky wisp, not to his sexuality. It has nothing to do with his hair. That would be rather superficial to say someone is gay just because of how his hair is.
oracle Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
To me, it just makes sense if Smoke would turn out to be gay.
Because what straight man has hair that magical. To me, it just makes sense if Smoke would turn out to be gay.
His hair is a hint to a smoky wisp, not to his sexuality. It has nothing to do with his hair. That would be rather superficial to say someone is gay just because of how his hair is.
I think that was meant to be a joke in your favor.
KungLaodoesntsuck •08/02/2012 02:48 PM (UTC) •
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corayfor Wrote:
He lost to Noob-Saibot dude, not moloch, not meat, hell not even reptile (which I think the king of puns would have put up a good fight).
I think noob could beat scorpion again and i know subby will tear that azzup. These guys have done it before: Bi-Han did twice in MK:M(in scorpion's human and wraith form) and Kuai-Liang in MK9(MK2 era).
Noob's fan base has grown to impressive heights seeing that he only had a story in MK:D, MK:A, and MK9, all tied into his original story as the elder sub zero in MK:M and MK1.
Scorpion just isn't favored(not hated upon) among 'THE TRUE MK FANS' for a number of reasons.
scorpio Wrote:
scorpion is the most popular and everyone knows it. yet he was put out long ago.
this poll and thread has gotten downright sad
scorpion is the most popular and everyone knows it. yet he was put out long ago.
this poll and thread has gotten downright sad
He lost to Noob-Saibot dude, not moloch, not meat, hell not even reptile (which I think the king of puns would have put up a good fight).
I think noob could beat scorpion again and i know subby will tear that azzup. These guys have done it before: Bi-Han did twice in MK:M(in scorpion's human and wraith form) and Kuai-Liang in MK9(MK2 era).
Noob's fan base has grown to impressive heights seeing that he only had a story in MK:D, MK:A, and MK9, all tied into his original story as the elder sub zero in MK:M and MK1.
Scorpion just isn't favored(not hated upon) among 'THE TRUE MK FANS' for a number of reasons.
Yeah Scorp lost but don't forget there was a lot of Anti-Scorpion votes. Noob didn't win just because of his fanbase, it was also the Scorpion backlash. I agree that Noob has a sizeable fanbase, which is well deserved because Noob is a cool character.
But let's not pretend Noob won solely based on his fanbase.
Shadaloo Wrote:
Yep!
@Kunglaodoesn'tsuck
You say anti-scorpion voters, I say people who don't favor scorpion over the next candidate. I think the so called 'anti-votes' were not a factor anyway because scorpion would have lost in round one and sub-zero would have been out as well. I do believe that there were some anti-noob saibot voters tho (scorpion fans) "vengence will be mine!" Success in winning a tournament is the true vengeance....
KungLaodoesntsuck •08/02/2012 03:41 PM (UTC) •
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corayfor Wrote:
Yep!
@Kunglaodoesn'tsuck
You say anti-scorpion voters, I say people who don't favor scorpion over the next candidate. I think the so called 'anti-votes' were not a factor anyway because scorpion would have lost in round one and sub-zero would have been out as well. I do believe that there were some anti-noob saibot voters tho (scorpion fans) "vengence will be mine!" Success in winning a tournament is the true vengeance....
Shadaloo Wrote:
Yep!
@Kunglaodoesn'tsuck
You say anti-scorpion voters, I say people who don't favor scorpion over the next candidate. I think the so called 'anti-votes' were not a factor anyway because scorpion would have lost in round one and sub-zero would have been out as well. I do believe that there were some anti-noob saibot voters tho (scorpion fans) "vengence will be mine!" Success in winning a tournament is the true vengeance....
The anti-votes were a pretty big factor. People were that tired of him they voted against him. (Which is fine I don't criticize how anyone votes) Now had Noob won by 3-5% I would agree with you, but it was a blowout. Noob had a comfortable lead for the entire time. I don't think it's that people hate Scorpion (Though I'm sure there are some), I think it's people just don't like his overexposure and his lack of plot advancement.
Then of course you had people vote for Noob simply because they liked him more. Now perhaps it was the people that voted for Noob simply because they liked him more than Scorpion that were the majority voters.
But I'm not going to rule out that the Scorpion backlash was a contributing factor to Noob's victory.
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