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08/01/2012 07:05 PM (UTC)
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you guys Ermac didn't win this! His image is still up on the main page because of his win on the previous round against Noob.

I think doing this whole Bronze round before even announcing the winner is genius wink.

Subby won, watch it will be announced after this round. Although, I have no idea how Ermac caught up all of a sudden, I smell BS from Ermac fans (creating new accounts) confused.


BTW I voted for Raiden obviously. Noob is an awesome character but is not good enough to be in 3rd place, same as Ermac for 2nd place.


Yeah, because if Sub-Zero won, it all makes sense, but if Ermac won, there had to be cheating involved!

*whispers* That was sarcasm, by the way...


That never fails to amaze me.

It's like they genuinely believe if the character isn't Scorpion or Sub-Zero, they can't win honestly.
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08/01/2012 07:12 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
petrcech Wrote:
you guys Ermac didn't win this! His image is still up on the main page because of his win on the previous round against Noob.

I think doing this whole Bronze round before even announcing the winner is genius wink.

Subby won, watch it will be announced after this round. Although, I have no idea how Ermac caught up all of a sudden, I smell BS from Ermac fans (creating new accounts) confused.


BTW I voted for Raiden obviously. Noob is an awesome character but is not good enough to be in 3rd place, same as Ermac for 2nd place.


Yeah, because if Sub-Zero won, it all makes sense, but if Ermac won, there had to be cheating involved!

*whispers* That was sarcasm, by the way...


That never fails to amaze me.

It's like they genuinely believe if the character isn't Scorpion or Sub-Zero, they can't win honestly.


That's what I meant with some fans could need to learn some humility!
(I know I wrote humiliation in my original post about this... Sorry, a fail from my part... Though I must admit, it could be nice to see from some people on here. ;P )
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08/01/2012 07:20 PM (UTC)
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All I'm saying is that people had two days to vote. TWO days. Kuai-Liang was up by around 10% most of the time. Now I hear that when the poll neared closure Ermac caught up and even passed sub (I stopped viewing sometime yesterday when I was convinced that sub was going to win). I mean where do the last minute votes come from in this 2 day poll? That out the way, here's an interesting question. Its true that the One Being has been around since the beginning of time. So it was obviously present in MK1, one way or another, even appearing on the fighter select screen(Dragon logo). Yet we didn't know about IT until MK:D. So when did it make its debut, MK1 or MK:D....
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08/01/2012 07:29 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:


That never fails to amaze me.

It's like they genuinely believe if the character isn't Scorpion or Sub-Zero, they can't win honestly.


That's what I meant with some fans could need to learn some humility!
(I know I wrote humiliation in my original post about this... Sorry, a fail from my part... Though I must admit, it could be nice to see from some people on here. ;P )


The crazy thing is, with the case of Ermac, they're acting as if he's a low-end character that no one likes. Ermac is actually popular, so he's going to get a lot of votes, just like Sub-Zero.

And even if someone like Hsu Hao made it to round 3, I wouldn't think "People are spamming!" or "This is rigged!" I would think, "Damn, I didn't know Hsu Hao had fans like that. I stand corrected."
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08/01/2012 07:36 PM (UTC)
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So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.

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08/01/2012 07:42 PM (UTC)
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raidenthefridge Wrote:
So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.



No one is denying his ability to win.

What I'm saying is he's not the only character with the ability to win.
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08/01/2012 07:47 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
raidenthefridge Wrote:
So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.



No one is denying his ability to win.

What I'm saying is he's not the only character with the ability to win.


Ermac is popular and all but you can't compare him to SubZero. Ermac does not have the ability to beat Subby, thats a fact. SubZero is the face of the series and one of the, if not the most iconic MK character. So don't get carried away please.
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08/01/2012 08:08 PM (UTC)
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petrcech Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
raidenthefridge Wrote:
So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.



No one is denying his ability to win.

What I'm saying is he's not the only character with the ability to win.


Ermac is popular and all but you can't compare him to SubZero. Ermac does not have the ability to beat Subby, thats a fact. SubZero is the face of the series and one of the, if not the most iconic MK character. So don't get carried away please.


I'm not getting carried away, I just happen to believe in Ermac's potential.

I've always compared him to Sub-Zero and Scorpion, actually, even before Deception. I've always felt that out of all the other MK ninjas, Ermac was the only one capable of reaching their status.

If it ever so happens that a new face should come, I believe Ermac could be that face (though I'd much rather prefer if a new character was the new face).
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08/01/2012 08:15 PM (UTC)
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petrcech Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
raidenthefridge Wrote:
So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.



No one is denying his ability to win.

What I'm saying is he's not the only character with the ability to win.


Ermac is popular and all but you can't compare him to SubZero. Ermac does not have the ability to beat Subby, thats a fact. SubZero is the face of the series and one of the, if not the most iconic MK character. So don't get carried away please.


Who cares. I agree with you, but I think you need to take your own advice and don't get carried away here as well. I think it would be weird if Ermac took the gold on this, but not unheard of. Also, it has nothing to do with 'ability' here, it's popularity. If this was based on ability, Ermac could have just lifted Sub-Zero into the air and ripped off all his limbs. Sub-Zero could have frozen him and all too- honestly, I think the two are pretty evenly matched. I don't use MK9's battles to determine the abilities of the 'evil' characters because they were all doomed to lose.
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08/01/2012 08:16 PM (UTC)
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And here I was thinking about bringing Boot/Immune back.
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08/01/2012 08:27 PM (UTC)
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mintpuff Wrote:
petrcech Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
raidenthefridge Wrote:
So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.



No one is denying his ability to win.

What I'm saying is he's not the only character with the ability to win.


Ermac is popular and all but you can't compare him to SubZero. Ermac does not have the ability to beat Subby, thats a fact. SubZero is the face of the series and one of the, if not the most iconic MK character. So don't get carried away please.


Who cares. I agree with you, but I think you need to take your own advice and don't get carried away here as well. I think it would be weird if Ermac took the gold on this, but not unheard of. Also, it has nothing to do with 'ability' here, it's popularity. If this was based on ability, Ermac could have just lifted Sub-Zero into the air and ripped off all his limbs. Sub-Zero could have frozen him and all too- honestly, I think the two are pretty evenly matched. I don't use MK9's battles to determine the abilities of the 'evil' characters because they were all doomed to lose.


Dude you should read my message again because I clearly wasn't referring to that type of ability. If that was the case Liu Kang would be te champion of this tourney.

Anyways, Ermac is popular but not even close to SubZero.
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08/01/2012 08:31 PM (UTC)
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petrcech Wrote:
mintpuff Wrote:
petrcech Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
raidenthefridge Wrote:
So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.



No one is denying his ability to win.

What I'm saying is he's not the only character with the ability to win.


Ermac is popular and all but you can't compare him to SubZero. Ermac does not have the ability to beat Subby, thats a fact. SubZero is the face of the series and one of the, if not the most iconic MK character. So don't get carried away please.


Who cares. I agree with you, but I think you need to take your own advice and don't get carried away here as well. I think it would be weird if Ermac took the gold on this, but not unheard of. Also, it has nothing to do with 'ability' here, it's popularity. If this was based on ability, Ermac could have just lifted Sub-Zero into the air and ripped off all his limbs. Sub-Zero could have frozen him and all too- honestly, I think the two are pretty evenly matched. I don't use MK9's battles to determine the abilities of the 'evil' characters because they were all doomed to lose.


Dude you should read my message again because I clearly wasn't referring to that type of ability. If that was the case Liu Kang would be te champion of this tourney.

Anyways, Ermac is popular but not even close to SubZero.


Did you read mine? I did read yours.

You used ability incorrectly.

It's popularity. Ermac isn't doing anything to win and neither is Sub-Zero, it's their popularity. Saying 'he doesn't have the ability to win' is kind of just wrong.
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08/01/2012 08:43 PM (UTC)
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@mintpuff

Ability doesn't necessarily mean physical strength. It can also be used in a more general sense. For example, ability as in the characters legacy and popularity. Come on girl.

I mean no disrespect my friend, just making sure you understand this.
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08/01/2012 08:46 PM (UTC)
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well, the graceful loser in me is glad that *aside from Ermac* Kitana faired the best against Sub-Zero than any of his other opponents *random facts!*
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08/01/2012 09:01 PM (UTC)
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@mintpuff

Ability doesn't necessarily mean physical strength. It can also be used in a more general sense. For example, ability as in the characters legacy and popularity. Come on girl.

I mean no disrespect my friend, just making sure you understand this.


I know. That just seems like the wrong word to use.
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08/01/2012 09:01 PM (UTC)
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mintpuff Wrote:
petrcech Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
raidenthefridge Wrote:
So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.



No one is denying his ability to win.

What I'm saying is he's not the only character with the ability to win.


Ermac is popular and all but you can't compare him to SubZero. Ermac does not have the ability to beat Subby, thats a fact. SubZero is the face of the series and one of the, if not the most iconic MK character. So don't get carried away please.


Who cares. I agree with you, but I think you need to take your own advice and don't get carried away here as well. I think it would be weird if Ermac took the gold on this, but not unheard of. Also, it has nothing to do with 'ability' here, it's popularity. If this was based on ability, Ermac could have just lifted Sub-Zero into the air and ripped off all his limbs. Sub-Zero could have frozen him and all too- honestly, I think the two are pretty evenly matched. I don't use MK9's battles to determine the abilities of the 'evil' characters because they were all doomed to lose.


He didn't use the word 'ability;' I did.

And I used it in the sense of their simply being able to win this tournament, not their abilities as fighters.
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08/01/2012 09:08 PM (UTC)
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Exactly, because if we're talking ability as fighters, Ermac would fuck up just about every other MK fighter. He wouldn't even let you touch him.
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08/01/2012 09:13 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
mintpuff Wrote:
petrcech Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
raidenthefridge Wrote:
So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.



No one is denying his ability to win.

What I'm saying is he's not the only character with the ability to win.


Ermac is popular and all but you can't compare him to SubZero. Ermac does not have the ability to beat Subby, thats a fact. SubZero is the face of the series and one of the, if not the most iconic MK character. So don't get carried away please.


Who cares. I agree with you, but I think you need to take your own advice and don't get carried away here as well. I think it would be weird if Ermac took the gold on this, but not unheard of. Also, it has nothing to do with 'ability' here, it's popularity. If this was based on ability, Ermac could have just lifted Sub-Zero into the air and ripped off all his limbs. Sub-Zero could have frozen him and all too- honestly, I think the two are pretty evenly matched. I don't use MK9's battles to determine the abilities of the 'evil' characters because they were all doomed to lose.


He didn't use the word 'ability;' I did.

And I used it in the sense of their simply being able to win this tournament, not their abilities as fighters.


I just don't understand why you two used that word though. I mean. No, I understand, but it seems really wrong to me, is all.
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08/01/2012 09:17 PM (UTC)
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Ermac is pretty damn popular sir.
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08/01/2012 09:18 PM (UTC)
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petrcech Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
raidenthefridge Wrote:
So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.



No one is denying his ability to win.

What I'm saying is he's not the only character with the ability to win.


Ermac is popular and all but you can't compare him to SubZero. Ermac does not have the ability to beat Subby, thats a fact. SubZero is the face of the series and one of the, if not the most iconic MK character. So don't get carried away please.


1- Thats opinion. That isnt fact. Dont label it as such.
2-pokemon as an example. Pikachu is the face of the series. Cant really argue that. But Whats funny is that jigglypuff is much more popular in Japan than Pikachu.
Dont base ones ability to persevere based on them being a mascot. It makes you look ignorant.
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08/01/2012 09:19 PM (UTC)
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Ermac is pretty damn popular sir.


I think that's what most people aren't getting, just because he isn't normally a character you think of when it comes to icons of the MK universe. Ermac is probably one of the top five most popular characters if we're talking just fanbase size.
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08/01/2012 09:20 PM (UTC)
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mintpuff Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
mintpuff Wrote:
petrcech Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
raidenthefridge Wrote:
So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.



No one is denying his ability to win.

What I'm saying is he's not the only character with the ability to win.


Ermac is popular and all but you can't compare him to SubZero. Ermac does not have the ability to beat Subby, thats a fact. SubZero is the face of the series and one of the, if not the most iconic MK character. So don't get carried away please.


Who cares. I agree with you, but I think you need to take your own advice and don't get carried away here as well. I think it would be weird if Ermac took the gold on this, but not unheard of. Also, it has nothing to do with 'ability' here, it's popularity. If this was based on ability, Ermac could have just lifted Sub-Zero into the air and ripped off all his limbs. Sub-Zero could have frozen him and all too- honestly, I think the two are pretty evenly matched. I don't use MK9's battles to determine the abilities of the 'evil' characters because they were all doomed to lose.


He didn't use the word 'ability;' I did.

And I used it in the sense of their simply being able to win this tournament, not their abilities as fighters.


I just don't understand why you two used that word though. I mean. No, I understand, but it seems really wrong to me, is all.


Either way, I'm just saying Ermac has the potential to rise (Batman pun totally intended).

Subby is the shiz, but so is Macro, at least to me.
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08/01/2012 09:30 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
mintpuff Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
mintpuff Wrote:
petrcech Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
raidenthefridge Wrote:
So Sub won then, seems fair enough his fan base is huge.



No one is denying his ability to win.

What I'm saying is he's not the only character with the ability to win.


Ermac is popular and all but you can't compare him to SubZero. Ermac does not have the ability to beat Subby, thats a fact. SubZero is the face of the series and one of the, if not the most iconic MK character. So don't get carried away please.


Who cares. I agree with you, but I think you need to take your own advice and don't get carried away here as well. I think it would be weird if Ermac took the gold on this, but not unheard of. Also, it has nothing to do with 'ability' here, it's popularity. If this was based on ability, Ermac could have just lifted Sub-Zero into the air and ripped off all his limbs. Sub-Zero could have frozen him and all too- honestly, I think the two are pretty evenly matched. I don't use MK9's battles to determine the abilities of the 'evil' characters because they were all doomed to lose.


He didn't use the word 'ability;' I did.

And I used it in the sense of their simply being able to win this tournament, not their abilities as fighters.


I just don't understand why you two used that word though. I mean. No, I understand, but it seems really wrong to me, is all.


Either way, I'm just saying Ermac has the potential to rise (Batman pun totally intended).

Subby is the shiz, but so is Macro, at least to me.


OK.

IMO, they're both really awesome characters.

I would have never guessed that Ermac would be anywhere near as popular as Sub-Zero, though. Yesterday he was putting up a really good fight. He was in the lead when I went to sleep, actually.
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08/01/2012 09:31 PM (UTC)
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m0s3pH Wrote:
Murcielago Wrote:
Ermac is pretty damn popular sir.


I think that's what most people aren't getting, just because he isn't normally a character you think of when it comes to icons of the MK universe. Ermac is probably one of the top five most popular characters if we're talking just fanbase size.


I disagree, maybe in the top 10 but definitely not in the top 5. I respect your opinion though.

Speaking of opinions....
@Ermackdaddy

1. SubZero is far more popular than Ermac, that is NOT an opinion, it's a FACT sir. Doesn't take a genius to realize that.

2. Don't compare Pokemon to Mortal Kombat, makes you look childish and ignorant.

...... Not trying to hate on the red ninja, just keeping it real. I'm very surprised that Ermac made it this far. But I'm also glad that Subby is going up against another character that isn't lameass Scorpion. But yeah SubZero is SubZero.
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Thanks redman for the sig!

08/01/2012 09:40 PM (UTC)
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petrcech Wrote:
m0s3pH Wrote:
Murcielago Wrote:
Ermac is pretty damn popular sir.


I think that's what most people aren't getting, just because he isn't normally a character you think of when it comes to icons of the MK universe. Ermac is probably one of the top five most popular characters if we're talking just fanbase size.


I disagree, maybe in the top 10 but definitely not in the top 5. I respect your opinion though.

Speaking of opinions....
@Ermackdaddy

1. SubZero is far more popular than Ermac, that is NOT an opinion, it's a FACT sir. Doesn't take a genius to realize that.

2. Don't compare Pokemon to Mortal Kombat, makes you look childish and ignorant.


it isnt a fact. Have you done extensive research on the subject or are you basing that off of what you see here? I thought so.
And considering pokemon has overwhelmingly outsold any mortal kombat its a good example. Its actually been researched on a wide scale.
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