Haha!

@Riyakou, Current polls make that banner kind useless now, don't they?

I actually sympathize with the guy that has Scorpion as his avatar. The way I see it the man's been cheated out of a hate/bias-free poll that promissed an interesting charge of competition throughout roughly 2 months. If he had known that in one month it was gonna be "vote for Moloch cause I hate Scorpion", I guess he wouldn't have bothered to take his time and involvement to vote in the first place, and for that I feel kind of sorry for him and the rest of the people who feel that way.
IMO, that doesn't in any mode take away any credibility of those who voted against Scorpion under the abovementioned impetus ("I hate Scorp, he's overexposed"), cause this is also an opinion that should be respected in a tolerant society and this is, after all, just a fan contest. But... when all is said and done, behind all the "Who is the SUPREME champion?", behind all the brackets, the seedings we get to these kind of situations?? To me it just seems as if 15 friends got together at one of the friends' house and organized an Ultimate MK poll. It's a poll, and it's legitimate, with equally worthy opinions (let's go by that), but in the end the description and form don't justify the content and I think that is what pissed the guy off. When organizing an "Ultimate Global Power poll", all credibility is lost when USA loose to San-Marino, simply because the poll attracted 27 voters, out of which 18 hate the USA and voted San-Marino. Do they have a right to an opinion? Yup. Are these opinions legitimate? Sure. Do they represent something significant, at least as to justify a "ULTIMATE something" title? Eh, you be the judge.
Overall, I'm not dissing anyone's opinion, but I stand by the Scorpion guy on a lot of points.

Its just a game guys.

The sincerity of the guy's frustration really got to me ).
And I think that if at least 50% of the people of the world lived by the "it's just a game, take it easy" thesis, the world would be a completely different (and better) place, Sadly, it is not, so I can't pretend it's not normal for a human to get sour. Everyone gets sour, it's a just a question of who and when. In this case it was this guy, but no one should pretend that his sourness is something shocking and totally unbecoming of humans.

I'll make a new one once one of the two are gone.



He hasn't been cheated out of anything.

If people had joined together to get Scorpion to win, what then? Would I have been cheated?

Let's view that scenario: After two decades of seeing what I feel is a horrible character get all the glory, I finally feel that maybe just once someone more deserving will be on top instead of him. All of a sudden, a group of people decide to vote heavily for Scorpion so that he can stay on top. Was I cheated?

Voted 4 Noob Saibot. I think its because I just like the "Saibot' part of the name, it sounds cool and robotic. And that is my basis for this vote.

I wouldn't mind if Subz won (even though I want Kitana to win) he's more tolerable and more interesting. And that is my basis for that vote.

...Scorpion ain't nothin brand new, check the messages and videos, he'll always be number two...

Scorpion is a fucking legend who cares about a dam poll.

You Scorp fans do realize that the two most popular characters in the series are Sub-Zero and Scorpion right? That in theory they only character that should be able to beat either of them in a popularity contest is eachother.

Now, if you were to place this poll on GameFaqs or IGN Noob Saibot would not stand a chance (he's still make it to the quarters though if bracketed properly) but on an MK only web-site like MKO, where only registered fans can vote and by register I mean die hard fans familiar with the history and storyline behind Mortal Kombat...well, they are voting for Sub-Zero...Noob Saibot is Sub-Zero. He's the Subby from MKM and MK1 and the first MK movie and MK Legacy and the one who killed Scorpion. Heck one of the greatest video game rivalry's of all time is Scorpion vs Sub-Zero..well, the #1 seeded Sub-Zero poll is not that Sub-Zero...the rivalry is between Noob and Scorp. Just look at the character's avatars in the official tournament bracket...Sub-Zero says 1993-2012, while Noob's says 1992-2012 (the same as Scorpion).

Casual gaming fans cannot distinguish between a name and a character, which is why the younger Sub-Zero (kuai whatever) gets alot of popularity...Bi-Han's acomplishments and characteristics are mistakenly given to him.

It is perfectly feasible that Noob Saibot (Bi Han Sub-Zero) defeats Scorpion in this poll, in fact, he is the only acceptable person that should be able to defeat Scorpion, unless Sub-Zero's avatar read 1992-2012, in which case we as voters would have to assume that the Sub-Zero covers both brothers...but it doesn't it reads 1993-2012, which means it only covers MK2 and beyond Sub-Zero...

We are MK fans, we are educated with our history, we are not voting down Scorp (well, most arent) we are voting for Sub-Zero (Bi Han) over Scorpion...which is acceptable.

What isn't acceptble is this poor ass seeding. Noob should meet his brother in the semi's and Scorp in the finals...blame MKO not the users!

I don't like answering with questions, but in this case it's the best way to start answering your question.
In the case of your scenarion a group of people decided to vote for Scorpion so he could stay on top (we're assuming they like the character). Because of the actions of that group a whole match is decided and Scorpion wins. You used the word "group" and it's a good choice of words, considering that this whole poll involves no more than several tens of people. In a case when a group of people sway the contest so dramatically wouldn't you at some point think:"Well this an MK contest just like any other, but THIS is what they call the "Ultimate Champion" poll?? 15 people can decide the outcome of a match and this is "Ultimate" level?".
What I'm saying is the guy wasn't cheated of a contest with fair and legitimate opinions (we're assuming all of the opinions expoused here possess both of these traits). I'm saying that the guy, for a better lack of an analogy, was a victim of false advertisement with the whole "Ultimate MK champion" and the seedings and brackets, indicating an epic poll of cosmic proportions. It's not the poll's or site's fault someone could've perceived the contest this way, but that doesn't take the guy's right to be pissed, does it?

Manz I hate noob saibot.

Except that the dudes awesome but scorpion is still a favorite of mine.

But seriously guys are we really fighting about this?

Cause in all honesty I swear if somebody goes all caps lock on me.

Shit's gonna hit the fan.

Scorpion fan even though he's a loser.

Your post is completely logical and I agree with your points, but dang... wouldn't it have been more epic if the poll was open to pure mortal (pun intended) folks as well )? The folks here state that they wouldn't want Scorpion to win cause then it would get monotonous, but if a poll is closed to registered users only, wouldn't THAT make the poll predictable? I mean you know that quite a lot of users, who are also hardcore fans, will vote Scorpion down, so that was a given even before we got to his match-ups.

SCORPION FANS LISTEN!!!

THERE IS ONLY ONE CHARACTER THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BEAT SCORPION & THAT IS SUB-ZERO.

NOOB SAIBOT IS SUB-ZERO!

Alright, no more yelling. Here are the questions one must need to ask to get to the bottom of this:

Who is the more iconic Sub-Zero? Bai Han or Kuai Ling

Who is more iconic, Sub-Zero or Scorpion?

I think you'll find, like the above poster said that this poll is for diehard MK fans, fans who know their storylines and history...anyother gaming web-site Noob doesn't stand a chance, here he does, because people see him as the Sub-Zero from MK1.

In all reality Noob Saibot and Scorpion are the only two characters to be included in everygame's story. Originally Scorp missed MK3, but Noob was included. And Noob missed MKDA but Scorp was included...but then in UMK3 Scorp was included, and in MKTE Noob was included.

For that reason I say Bi-Han is the more iconic Sub-Zero. Alos I say Sub-Zero is more iconic than Scorpion because of MKM...so therefore is feasible that Sub should defeat Scorp in this game...and so far he is.

The divide... She widens.

Yes..... Yessss.....

Well, this hasn't been touched upon before in detail, but if we were to discuss the aspect of iconic status, I'd seriously assume that Scorpion's already outrun Sub-Zero in that department, because I believe that for the last 2-2,5 years Scorpion's been undisputably the most popular and recognizable character of the franchise. There's two ways this can go, of course: the fanbase and the mainstream audience. Quantity isn't always the best criterion, but when a question of how much a character is iconic is raised, isn't quantity one of the decisive factors? Spider-man, Batman and Superman are the most iconic heroes and they're also the most popular. Harry Potter is iconic and he's popular. Scorpion is more well-known to a larger audience, therefore I'd assume that he's more iconic.

If that is how you put it, then considering that the tournament was designed so that certain characters would lose, we were all cheated.

Had it been a less popular character, he would not have said anything. I know this because he believes this group is only voting against Scorpion because he ago"the most popular character."

I myself strongly feel the only people who view Scorpion in such a light are those who seldom play Mortal Kombat and know Scorpion merely as a household name, and those who cling to nostalgia and refuse to see the character beyond who he was 20 years ago.

I actually used to like Scorpion early on. I thought he was pretty cool. But as I continued to venture through the series, I watched as characters grew and shifted. Then I noticed, Scorpion had not. This was around 2002, the year MKDA was released. I began to notice not only his story, but his fighting, was repetitive. I started to like him less, but I also felt that maybe it was time for him to move on, especially when I saw his ending in MKDA.

Then Deception was released, and he had returned. That bothered me, considering he had supposedly died in the Void. Once I got the game and read his bio, I noticed his inclusion was quite bogus, to say the least. It seemed like nothing more than an excuse to keep him in the series. Furthermore, nothing about him changed. He was the same as he was two years prior.

By the time Armageddon was released, I had grown tired of Scorpion. I felt his inclusion at that point was pointless. Then I played the story mode, and I reached my end. Scorpion got into yet another revenge story. I was fed up. I couldn't see how a character with no focus or improvement could be viewed as an icon. I decided Scorpion was no longer worth caring about, as he had lost all value.

I love how some are responding "in a real competition so and so would win". What other competition than one on a true fan MK site and not some casual gaming site?

Yes, of course certain characters are going to lose, but... doesn't Noob beating Scorpion kind of tell you that this is a really... intimate poll? It's no less legitimate, but I can see how that can make the poll less interesting to a number of people. Noob being a better character than Scorpion? Totally agree that this is arguable and up for debate. Noob beating Scorpion and with such an advantage? Only when it's a poll between us girls, figuratively speaking, of course ). So this is an underground poll. That's great, but I suppose some of the people were expecting something wider.

i voted for scorpion. go scorpion!!!

Time to be an asshole. Where the fuck is everyone's integrity? Are we all kids here? How about the immature people stop ruining this poll for everyone just because your character lost? Or because other characters are more popular? I voted Scorpion because he was my original favorite and he is a legit character. I am unbiased and I will not ruin it for others, whoever wins, let them win because they were loved by the MK community and not out of spite. You guys are like the kids who make a thousand votes for prom just so they can win? Whatever happened to letting the best man win? The one who earned it? You defeat the purpose of a popular vote. That's my two cents on this.

Defeat the purpose? Perhaps... But there's something to be said for entertainment value.

It's entertaining when people aren't ruining it for others. I would enjoy the poll regardless of who won, but I can't enjoy it if I know people banned together just because they don't want someone to win. You know?

Some of you people are making me want to get high on bath salts and stare into a mirror for hours, and try to chew my own damn face off. -_-

I like this. Scorpion is losing. Noob is winning. I'm still a happy turkey.

Flyboy, you are the spoiled little kid here. You want Scorp to win so you are acusing veryone else of sabataging the poll rather than recongnizing it for what it is...this is a die hard MK board, not a casual game site...people like Bi-han better, get over it.