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10/10/2007 06:50 AM (UTC)
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G_gamer07 Wrote:
I'm sorry but isn't Soul Calibur super broken? From what I hear, SC 3 was ridiculous. Probably even worse than MKD or MKA.wowconfused
Tekken is no different.

if you get popped up you then can be comboed all the way to the wall, then you gotta deal w/ all kinds of 50/50 on the wall making it feel like MKD's side steps and free throws.

Throws take 35,40, 60% ONE FUCKING THROW O_o


i never played Soul cal 3 so i cant speak for it. how ever soul edge, blade and the 1st cal on the dreamcast i loved.

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10/10/2007 03:59 PM (UTC)
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G_gamer07 Wrote:
I'm sorry but isn't Soul Calibur super broken? From what I hear, SC 3 was ridiculous. Probably even worse than MKD or MKA.wowconfused


Yup. I talked to a bunch of people who played it competitively. SC 2 and SC 3 are trash. It's Namco's MK version of a fighting game.

Dan, you need to learn Tekken's wake up mechanics before you judge it, foo'.
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10/10/2007 08:15 PM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
G_gamer07 Wrote:
I'm sorry but isn't Soul Calibur super broken? From what I hear, SC 3 was ridiculous. Probably even worse than MKD or MKA.wowconfused
Tekken is no different.

if you get popped up you then can be comboed all the way to the wall, then you gotta deal w/ all kinds of 50/50 on the wall making it feel like MKD's side steps and free throws.

Throws take 35,40, 60% ONE FUCKING THROW O_o


i never played Soul cal 3 so i cant speak for it. how ever soul edge, blade and the 1st cal on the dreamcast i loved.



The only grabs that take away almost 50% health in Tekken are the back grabs. But what are the chances of you getting behind your opponent and successfully grabbing them. But I get what you're talking about being cornered in the wall. It's like MKD all over again.

But there are ways to get out of it. Sometimes when my brother corners me with Steve and I'm on the floor, I'll just wait till he does a slow-recovery move then wake up with either 3 (trips him) or 4 (kicks him away). You're just not used to the fighting engine of Tekken Dan. It's ok cuz I barely get it too especially after playing mediocre MKD and MKA. But I still have fun playing it regardless if I'm average. BTW I still have to take the COCK Challenge.
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10/11/2007 04:09 AM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
G_gamer07 Wrote:
I'm sorry but isn't Soul Calibur super broken? From what I hear, SC 3 was ridiculous. Probably even worse than MKD or MKA.wowconfused
Tekken is no different.

if you get popped up you then can be comboed all the way to the wall, then you gotta deal w/ all kinds of 50/50 on the wall making it feel like MKD's side steps and free throws.

Throws take 35,40, 60% ONE FUCKING THROW O_o


i never played Soul cal 3 so i cant speak for it. how ever soul edge, blade and the 1st cal on the dreamcast i loved.




The wake-ups and just plain defense take a while to learn. There's a way to get out of EVERY situation. But Tekken IS a game that takes years to get REALLY good at.

I think Dave might have just overloaded you with knowledge while beatng your ass WAY too much lol.

Shame on you Dave.


PLUS you were using trash characters. Nina is good, but for Tekken masters. And don't waste your time with Eddy's bullshit. Try Bryan or Law, they are both easy to use and pay off. But I guess it doesn't matter anyway lol.
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10/11/2007 07:31 AM (UTC)
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guys im not saying Tekken is a bad game.

i see that its a very good sound game better then the others from a Technical/In-depth stand point. it has everything i want in a game.
low/high parry, the combo strings, low/high/mid attacks, wake ups etc this is why i thought id love the game. problem is i dont like how i have to perform some of the moves.

the tap 2 buttons quick moves, like eddies 3~4 so he does his 2 low pokes that knock his foe to the ground. problem is half the time 3,4 comes out and im open to be countered. im like WTF I DIDNT WANT THAT MOVE TO COME OUT furious furious furious then i press D/F +1 for a certain move sometimes f+1 comes out instead because i tapped or held the button wrong. its annoying. thats why if i do find good arcade sticks id definitly would give this game a try again.


i actually hope MK8 has all the stuff this game has how ever get rid of the cs and have it be a change move set. fight w/ one style w/ all the possible attacks w/ that fighting style like in tekken, but instead of having to tap db,d/b,d,d/f,f then 123455 to pull off a silly one hit attack, instead press the change move set button to use the rest of the possible attacks. in one set b+4 would clip then in the other i could press b+4 for another attack instead of pressing d/b+4.


^^^^^^^^^sorry if no one understands this^^^^^^^^^^

again i just hate having to press 5 different taps and buttons for one attack.



im just a simple bitch i guess.
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10/11/2007 02:56 PM (UTC)
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^^^^Yes you are but we still love ya Dan.tonguewink

From a video interview that I saw with Ed Boon he said that MK 8 will use an unreal fighting engine (whatever the fuck that is). So I'm guessing that the characters in MK8 will be able to move freely across an arena while fighting. It won't be like MKDA, MKD, and MKA where the physics/movement of them was just back, forward, side step, jump up and down. It'll probably be more complex then that. Then again I'm not really sure because no official information has been released on it yet. But we can always count on Boon to dissappoint us.
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10/11/2007 03:32 PM (UTC)
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I think you guys are getting your thinking mixed up when you hear "Unreal Engine". It sounds like a lot of you think MK8 is going to be or play like Unreal Championships since they're using the Unreal Engine. It can still be a "standard" fighting game set up even if they're using an engine that made it's name with a different genre of game.

For example, GTA: IV is using the RockStar Table Tennis engine. That doesn't mean that GTA: IV is going to play like a Table Tennis game or anything.
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10/11/2007 04:38 PM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
guys im not saying Tekken is a bad game.

i see that its a very good sound game better then the others from a Technical/In-depth stand point. it has everything i want in a game.
low/high parry, the combo strings, low/high/mid attacks, wake ups etc this is why i thought id love the game. problem is i dont like how i have to perform some of the moves.

the tap 2 buttons quick moves, like eddies 3~4 so he does his 2 low pokes that knock his foe to the ground. problem is half the time 3,4 comes out and im open to be countered. im like WTF I DIDNT WANT THAT MOVE TO COME OUT furious furious furious then i press D/F +1 for a certain move sometimes f+1 comes out instead because i tapped or held the button wrong. its annoying. thats why if i do find good arcade sticks id definitly would give this game a try again.


i actually hope MK8 has all the stuff this game has how ever get rid of the cs and have it be a change move set. fight w/ one style w/ all the possible attacks w/ that fighting style like in tekken, but instead of having to tap db,d/b,d,d/f,f then 123455 to pull off a silly one hit attack, instead press the change move set button to use the rest of the possible attacks. in one set b+4 would clip then in the other i could press b+4 for another attack instead of pressing d/b+4.


^^^^^^^^^sorry if no one understands this^^^^^^^^^^

again i just hate having to press 5 different taps and buttons for one attack.



im just a simple bitch i guess.


Most of Tekken notations make perfect sense, though. The notations are very consistent. You can almost get an idea what the move will look like just based on its notation.

f+attack is usually a high attack. Sometimes it may be a slower mid attack depending on the character.

d/f+attack is a mid attack. It may be a low attack when done with a kick.

d+attack is usually a low attack.

f,f+attack is a dashing attack.

2 Punch attack (i.e. 1+2) is an attack usually using both hands or a shoulder attack.

You get the point. d/f+attack is not hard to do. Neither is 4~3. Neither is 1+2 (just hold 1 and press 2; you'll get 1+2). Neither is anything in Tekken. You're just not used to pressing more complex buttons because MK doesn't have them.
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10/11/2007 08:23 PM (UTC)
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Dave ~ you are 100% correct. i just cant pull off most of the moves because of my hands i guess. even in MKD + MKA i cant do most of the combos. like Ashrahs full string in MKD i almost always fucked it up.
when playing tekken i have to use my poniter and middle finger to play instead of my thumb. i dont know its just hard for me to use the controller.

like i said imma need a huge arcade stick to play this game. im on the verge of buying one because MK2 is better played w/ sticks as well. i just dont have the cash right now to buy an expensive one. i have to wait till i can. i bought a cheap small one before and it sucks sad big and bulky is what i need.
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12/24/2007 07:33 AM (UTC)
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I have a question about Asuka. Is her move set the exact same like in 5? Or was she slightly tweaked in DR? I checked out TekkenZaibatsu site and a lot of the pros over there were saying that she was somewhat broken and had to be toned down in DR. I don't know if that's true or not.

I for one don't see her as a broken character because most of her moves were interruptable. Whatever though.

P.S. ~ I think Ling Xiayou has an infinite against the wall. I tested it out in the practice room but not on my brother yet. Basically when they're on the floor against the wall, have Ling's back turned to them and keep doing F,F,3 or is it considered B,B,3 with her backed turned to them? Anyways I noticed the computer couldn't stand up or roll over. wow Although you can't do the move one after another. You kind of have to wait a split second before doing it again. Now I'm not sure if it's an actual infinite. It's probably better if I test it on my brother.

*NAKM*
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12/24/2007 11:01 PM (UTC)
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Asuka Pwns! B +2,F+1, 4 ftw!
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12/25/2007 03:16 AM (UTC)
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G_gamer07 Wrote:
I have a question about Asuka. Is her move set the exact same like in 5? Or was she slightly tweaked in DR? I checked out TekkenZaibatsu site and a lot of the pros over there were saying that she was somewhat broken and had to be toned down in DR. I don't know if that's true or not.

I for one don't see her as a broken character because most of her moves were interruptable. Whatever though.

P.S. ~ I think Ling Xiayou has an infinite against the wall. I tested it out in the practice room but not on my brother yet. Basically when they're on the floor against the wall, have Ling's back turned to them and keep doing F,F,3 or is it considered B,B,3 with her backed turned to them? Anyways I noticed the computer couldn't stand up or roll over. wow Although you can't do the move one after another. You kind of have to wait a split second before doing it again. Now I'm not sure if it's an actual infinite. It's probably better if I test it on my brother.

*NAKM*


Asuka has never been broken, not in Tekken 5.0, and certainly not in DR.

Ling has no infinite combo. Set the CPU to tech-roll, back-roll, etc. or better yet have your brother do it.

The only character who has an infinite combo in DR is the final boss (Jinpachi) off of a wall splat but he is not usable online anyway and is banned in tournaments.
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12/25/2007 03:47 AM (UTC)
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I got my ps3 today and I'm all set. My tag is EnterTheGecko. I mainly use Roger and Anna right now. I'm still in the habit of doing Roger's U/F+3+4 tech trap setup from 5.0; but I've only played DR Twice. Know that I have it, I can get the practice i need.
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12/26/2007 02:09 AM (UTC)
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Gexx21 Wrote:
I got my ps3 today and I'm all set. My tag is EnterTheGecko. I mainly use Roger and Anna right now. I'm still in the habit of doing Roger's U/F+3+4 tech trap setup from 5.0; but I've only played DR Twice. Know that I have it, I can get the practice i need.


I ran into you tonight. My PSN name is KnifeParty25. I was using Asuka against your Anna, GGs btw. The lag was not bad...
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12/26/2007 03:46 AM (UTC)
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yo people my gamer tag is kingofbrutality

i just started so yea

im still smashing people with bryan though lol
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12/26/2007 08:52 AM (UTC)
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yo people my gamer tag is kingofbrutality

i just started so yea

im still smashing people with bryan though lol


The only thing you're smashin is the floor with your face. At least after Ling and Christie take care of you.
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12/26/2007 04:06 PM (UTC)
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Dave,is Heihachi's B + 2 an Infinite?Sometimes it really seems to be like one..Or maybe the CPU just falls for it.
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12/26/2007 07:13 PM (UTC)
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khanswarrior15 Wrote:
Dave,is Heihachi's B + 2 an Infinite?Sometimes it really seems to be like one..Or maybe the CPU just falls for it.

the CPU falls for every retarded thing. on top of that every weak player falls for it.
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12/26/2007 10:27 PM (UTC)
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Is it really worth getting TekkenDR? Im saving up right now to get Uncharted.
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12/26/2007 10:38 PM (UTC)
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TEKKEN SUCKS !!!




* waits for dave to show up and TSDROP me to death *


^ ^ ^

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let me know how worth it it is guys . im not that much of a tekken fan but if the game itself is worth it i might think about getting it . ill be getting my PS3 next week hopefully .
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12/26/2007 11:25 PM (UTC)
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Dave,I have another question for you,Is Lee still Mid/Low tier? He seemed pretty safe with his D + 4,4,4,4 (Unless it was side-stepped.)

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12/27/2007 12:16 AM (UTC)
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Have any of you seen the new T6 vids? look up Markman on youtube and see his tekken 6 vids.Its looking like MKD right now. Its stupid how you can easily OTG your opponent to death. i really hope they fix that because that makes me not wanna get TekkenDR. Even Zafina has hella combos and she looks like she moves slower then any other character
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12/27/2007 12:21 AM (UTC)
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i say its not worth the cost of what it is to download.
sadly it was a waste of money.


if you already know how to play Tekken then go get it.

my main issue w/ the game was at times when playing the good players like Dave, JO and a few other guys i felt as if i had zero control of my character. i was basically a punch dummy for them. i have never felt like that in any fighting game i have ever played in my life.

who ever gets the 1st pop up wins 90% of the time from what i seen.
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12/27/2007 12:22 AM (UTC)
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It's only a beta, so there's gonna be stuff like that present that needs to be fixed.
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12/27/2007 12:28 AM (UTC)
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If I were to get TekkenDR I'd get the 19.99 one without the online. And is there a way to get games without the credit card thing?
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