JackBurton •10/27/2008 03:39 AM (UTC) •
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When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yes sir, the check is in the mail."
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Jack Burton is pissed only because he didn't think the Joker's first fatality was all that bad...
Since I'm an MK veteran, my viewpoint is obviously biased. "Experts" could say that I've grown somewhat "desensitized" to all the violence and stuff depicted in the MK games. I'm just used to them I guess. The point made by ThePredator 151 about the "Little Timmys" out there being tempted by the game to go shoot someone is a legitimate argument. As big an advocate as I am for parents to be better about keeping games like this from their hands, you still have many out there that are too preoccupied with just trying to get by to really keep an eye on everything their child/children does/do. Therefore, I guess I CAN understand why this has been done...but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
I liked the whole speargun suggestion that was made. That could be a suitable solution. I was actually thinking of a change in camera perspective instantly after the Joker draws the real gun to behind the opponent, so you only hear the shot ring out, the person fall over with the Joker revealed pointing the gun in the direction where the opponent stood, seeing a flash of blood, and having the opponent fall over. Still somewhat the same, but at least you don't technically see Joker fire the gun...you only hear it and witness what he just accomplished by firing.
But hey, like ThePredator 151 mentioned, the release date is drawing near. If the screen going black is all the team can do between now and then, so be it. I honestly wouldn't mind a slight delay in order for the fatality to be addressed properly, but I guess a delay isn't an option. Oh well...nothing I can do about it. I'll still try and get a hold of the game somehow.
And THAT'S what Jack Burton has to say at this time.
Since I'm an MK veteran, my viewpoint is obviously biased. "Experts" could say that I've grown somewhat "desensitized" to all the violence and stuff depicted in the MK games. I'm just used to them I guess. The point made by ThePredator 151 about the "Little Timmys" out there being tempted by the game to go shoot someone is a legitimate argument. As big an advocate as I am for parents to be better about keeping games like this from their hands, you still have many out there that are too preoccupied with just trying to get by to really keep an eye on everything their child/children does/do. Therefore, I guess I CAN understand why this has been done...but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
I liked the whole speargun suggestion that was made. That could be a suitable solution. I was actually thinking of a change in camera perspective instantly after the Joker draws the real gun to behind the opponent, so you only hear the shot ring out, the person fall over with the Joker revealed pointing the gun in the direction where the opponent stood, seeing a flash of blood, and having the opponent fall over. Still somewhat the same, but at least you don't technically see Joker fire the gun...you only hear it and witness what he just accomplished by firing.
But hey, like ThePredator 151 mentioned, the release date is drawing near. If the screen going black is all the team can do between now and then, so be it. I honestly wouldn't mind a slight delay in order for the fatality to be addressed properly, but I guess a delay isn't an option. Oh well...nothing I can do about it. I'll still try and get a hold of the game somehow.
And THAT'S what Jack Burton has to say at this time.
BiohazardEXTREME •10/27/2008 03:56 AM (UTC) •
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The team really shouldn't have to do anything. I know I've said this a million times before, but I'll say it a million times again: Uncharted, Uncharted, Uncharted.
ESRB are assholes. Naughty Dog has this history of making Jak and Daxter and Crash Bandicoot games, so ESRB goes, "Well, this is acceptable amount of violence and wearing for a T-Rated Game."
But with Mortal Kombat, just because it's got this 'controversial history', they choose put such a tight leash and be picky about every little tiny thing.
Video Games are suffering from the same censorship plague that's going on in the music industry right now.
You watch a rap video, and they blank out every other word. Fuck, shit, bitch, drugs, kill, gun, everything that could POSSIBLY be considered with something violent or sexual, just because it's rap.
But then you watch a pop video, made by Pink, or whatever other 'diva', and they let them get away with shit, bitch. Rock songs get away with weapon references.
This is why I'm severely against censorship.
ESRB are assholes. Naughty Dog has this history of making Jak and Daxter and Crash Bandicoot games, so ESRB goes, "Well, this is acceptable amount of violence and wearing for a T-Rated Game."
But with Mortal Kombat, just because it's got this 'controversial history', they choose put such a tight leash and be picky about every little tiny thing.
Video Games are suffering from the same censorship plague that's going on in the music industry right now.
You watch a rap video, and they blank out every other word. Fuck, shit, bitch, drugs, kill, gun, everything that could POSSIBLY be considered with something violent or sexual, just because it's rap.
But then you watch a pop video, made by Pink, or whatever other 'diva', and they let them get away with shit, bitch. Rock songs get away with weapon references.
This is why I'm severely against censorship.
quanscorptile •10/27/2008 05:31 AM (UTC) •
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ok i've had enough of expressing my opinions of how i feel about the toning down of the fatalities. i would like to solve this problem somehow.
this is to esrb, if you could somehow let midway make the two copies of the game, one with the t rating and the other with the mature rating. its obvious that both versions of the game will sell equally. i mean i tried to express how i felt about it, but it seems i always had replies on how i was wrong and this is still gonna be a great game. so why not just do that? that way both parties can be happy for the diehard mk adult fans like me, and the young newcomer soon to be fans like them. why not please both parties and double the money? trust me you'll make a bundle!
heres a petition for the diehard mk fans out there who want to see mk versus dc universe get an m rating. lets help save this game and our enjoyment of what put the m in mortal komat, the mature rating!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mkvsdcmrating/?e
i want to see just how many mk specific diehard fans are out there this is strictly just to see exactly how many mk or dc fans we have out there. i would like to have a contest kind of like an online versing game without playable characters. more like typing messages! mk fans vs dc fans! how loyal are you? type as many messages as you can, putting down the toning of fatalities or either praising them! lets see who will win!!!!
this is to esrb, if you could somehow let midway make the two copies of the game, one with the t rating and the other with the mature rating. its obvious that both versions of the game will sell equally. i mean i tried to express how i felt about it, but it seems i always had replies on how i was wrong and this is still gonna be a great game. so why not just do that? that way both parties can be happy for the diehard mk adult fans like me, and the young newcomer soon to be fans like them. why not please both parties and double the money? trust me you'll make a bundle!
heres a petition for the diehard mk fans out there who want to see mk versus dc universe get an m rating. lets help save this game and our enjoyment of what put the m in mortal komat, the mature rating!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mkvsdcmrating/?e
i want to see just how many mk specific diehard fans are out there this is strictly just to see exactly how many mk or dc fans we have out there. i would like to have a contest kind of like an online versing game without playable characters. more like typing messages! mk fans vs dc fans! how loyal are you? type as many messages as you can, putting down the toning of fatalities or either praising them! lets see who will win!!!!
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Joe-Von-Zombie •10/27/2008 07:01 AM (UTC) •
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Am I the only person who doesn't care? Gameplay is more important than this overdone arbitrary crap. Yes Fatalities are what made MK famous (and infamous) in the early days, but are they what MK needs to be famous for NOW? I don't think so. This franchise needs to be a solid well rounded fighting game not mindless torture porn like Manhunt.
quanscorptile •10/27/2008 07:12 AM (UTC) •
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manhunt ain't got nothing on the original mk games! well the m rated mk games! you need to wake up and realize mk ain't nothing without fatalities and a little gore! that would be like taking the auto out of grand theft! seriously wake up and smell the blood!
Detox •10/27/2008 07:14 AM (UTC) •
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quanscorptile Wrote:
heres a petition for the diehard mk fans out there who want to see mk versus dc universe get an m rating. lets help save this game and our enjoyment of what put the m in mortal komat, the mature rating!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mkvsdcmrating/?e
heres a petition for the diehard mk fans out there who want to see mk versus dc universe get an m rating. lets help save this game and our enjoyment of what put the m in mortal komat, the mature rating!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mkvsdcmrating/?e
GOOD GOD! It took 5 damn pages, but it finally happened, an online petition. Not to be mean, but I hate online petitions(the lazy man's petition) with all my heart.....i guess that's not your fault though, so don't think i'm trying to single you out and insult you or anything.
Anyway, THE GAME IS DONE! In case anyone missed it, please refer to MKO's front page, watch the video, and hear with bated breath as Ed Boon says that the work is DONE! They've turned the game into Microsoft and Sony for approvals(before everyone starts screaming, that's not content approvals, that's spec approvals/requirements). The rating is in, the changes are made.
Am I happy the gore is toned back, no, not really. But what people seem to be forgetting is the fact that Midway has had the gore to rely selling the game on for years(thus yielding such unwanted results as Armageddon). They don't have that right now....It forced them to make a better game. As it stands now, it looks like they've made a step in the right direction. The game looks like a ton of fun without the gore. Hell, if they timed the cut to black properly, and with the right gun shot sound effect, The Joker's fatality could be funnier/more meaningful then it was to actually see the gun shot inflicted on the charactar. Or it could lead to another classic Sub Zero fade to black and leave everyone in a kind of WTF type moment.
I guess in the midst of this ramble, my general message would be, play(see: rent) before you judge. If it's as bad as you thought it'd be with less blood, then pray for a "pure" MK9.
quanscorptile •10/27/2008 07:19 AM (UTC) •
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i ain't going away so don't try to stop me! i'll keep posting messages as long as i want and theres nothing that you wussy nonloving gore dc humping faggots can do about it! and to my fellow mk gore loving fans hell yeah!!!! this is for yall baby!!!!!!
Detox •10/27/2008 07:28 AM (UTC) •
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quanscorptile Wrote:
i ain't going away so don't try to stop me! i'll keep posting messages as long as i want and theres nothing that you wussy nonloving gore dc humping faggots can do about it! and to my fellow mk gore loving fans hell yeah!!!! this is for yall baby!!!!!!
i ain't going away so don't try to stop me! i'll keep posting messages as long as i want and theres nothing that you wussy nonloving gore dc humping faggots can do about it! and to my fellow mk gore loving fans hell yeah!!!! this is for yall baby!!!!!!
I'm so happy you said the gore loving fans, because if you'd said ALL MK fans, i'd be embarrased to have you as my ambassador. Nobody's trying to stop you either........or are we?
quanscorptile •10/27/2008 07:30 AM (UTC) •
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come on someone else reply! whats wrong dc got ya all cuddled up like a teddy bear? or do ya got guts? if so, lets see those guts! although i have a feeling that those guts won't be shown towards me if your a true mk fan! go ahead dc fans sink to my level give me a smart remark fatality!
Joe-Von-Zombie •10/27/2008 07:42 AM (UTC) •
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quanscorptile Wrote:
come on someone else reply! whats wrong dc got ya all cuddled up like a teddy bear? or do ya got guts? if so, lets see those guts! although i have a feeling that those guts won't be shown towards me if your a true mk fan! go ahead dc fans sink to my level give me a smart remark fatality!
come on someone else reply! whats wrong dc got ya all cuddled up like a teddy bear? or do ya got guts? if so, lets see those guts! although i have a feeling that those guts won't be shown towards me if your a true mk fan! go ahead dc fans sink to my level give me a smart remark fatality!
As I've said before I feel sorry for people in general who buy MK only for fatalities.These are the fans that have also let MK get away with terrible gameplay over the last 10 years and you apparently are one those fans so thank you for craptastic games and the overall decline in quality over the years..
quanscorptile •10/27/2008 07:49 AM (UTC) •
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your welcome!!!!!!!!!! and thanks for showing me those guts, that just proves your just as fatalic as me! i'm so glad that no real true diehard mk fan has shown me any grit at all! your just pathetic! oh and thanks again for the reply, you gave me just what i wanted! why don't you convince esrb to make the game rating mature and really give me and my fellow mk diehard gore fans what we want!!!!
quanscorptile •10/27/2008 09:09 AM (UTC) •
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pour them in i'm waiting!
ThePredator151 •10/27/2008 09:17 AM (UTC) •
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quanscorptile Wrote:
pour them in i'm waiting!
pour them in i'm waiting!
Appreciate the enthusiam but cut it out. Before you make me boot you off of here.
quanscorptile •10/27/2008 09:31 AM (UTC) •
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well thats up to you. that will cut me a break cause as long as i'm on here i'm not going to stop! theres no reason for me to be on this site anyway if this game continues to be this way. so fuck it! what have i got to lose? i can tell by the first three words in your posts you seem like a true mk fan to me. so join me don't condem me.
quanscorptile Wrote:
your welcome!!!!!!!!!! and thanks for showing me those guts, that just proves your just as fatalic as me! i'm so glad that no real true diehard mk fan has shown me any grit at all! your just pathetic! oh and thanks again for the reply, you gave me just what i wanted! why don't you convince esrb to make the game rating mature and really give me and my fellow mk diehard gore fans what we want!!!!
your welcome!!!!!!!!!! and thanks for showing me those guts, that just proves your just as fatalic as me! i'm so glad that no real true diehard mk fan has shown me any grit at all! your just pathetic! oh and thanks again for the reply, you gave me just what i wanted! why don't you convince esrb to make the game rating mature and really give me and my fellow mk diehard gore fans what we want!!!!
This proves how utterly insignificant you are.
On the other hand. People, why start bitching now? What amount the fatalities constitute to the game? LIke about 2%?
ThePredator151 •10/27/2008 09:41 AM (UTC) •
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quanscorptile Wrote:
well thats up to you. that will cut me a break cause as long as i'm on here i'm not going to stop! theres no reason for me to be on this site anyway if this game continues to be this way. so fuck it! what have i got to lose? i can tell by the first three words in your posts you seem like a true mk fan to me. so join me don't condem me.
well thats up to you. that will cut me a break cause as long as i'm on here i'm not going to stop! theres no reason for me to be on this site anyway if this game continues to be this way. so fuck it! what have i got to lose? i can tell by the first three words in your posts you seem like a true mk fan to me. so join me don't condem me.
quanscorptile •10/27/2008 09:42 AM (UTC) •
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yep very insignificant i am! and the amount is 110% to the exact!!!!!
quanscorptile •10/27/2008 09:52 AM (UTC) •
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well i gotta go to bed folks. i'm sure some of you are very thrilled about that although on the negitive side i'll be logged back on sometime tomorrow, so be ready to insult me and cuss me out! but i'm not going to bed mad so goodnite everyone. even the mk hating wanting mk to be rated e for everyone folks. sleep well
quanscorptile Wrote:
well i gotta go to bed folks. i'm sure some of you are very thrilled about that although on the negitive side i'll be logged back on sometime tomorrow, so be ready to insult me and cuss me out! but i'm not going to bed mad so goodnite everyone. even the mk hating wanting mk to be rated e for everyone folks. sleep well
well i gotta go to bed folks. i'm sure some of you are very thrilled about that although on the negitive side i'll be logged back on sometime tomorrow, so be ready to insult me and cuss me out! but i'm not going to bed mad so goodnite everyone. even the mk hating wanting mk to be rated e for everyone folks. sleep well
There will not be much of a tomorrow for you here, diminutive one.
ArmyofErmac •10/27/2008 11:25 AM (UTC) •
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I know none of you wanna hear this but DC has to protect its name now i know some of you may say "but joker shoots people in the face all the time" yeah well thats in the comics and no one cares what happens in comics anymore. right now video games are a lightning rod for parent groups.
TheOmniOni •10/27/2008 11:57 AM (UTC) •
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yep, just another reason not to buy this game. Not that MK is all fatalities, it's bad gameplay and DC characters too. Though in all the crap prior it was Joker's fatality that made me rethink on actually trying this game. Shot to hell now, isn't it? EPIC FAIL.
QueenAhnka •10/27/2008 12:55 PM (UTC) •
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OMG I bet there are some fan boys that wouldn't bat an eyelash if MK was turned into a rated E. That is sooo sad. Sorry pred about earlier, I just get worked up in debates, no e-slaps, lol.
ArmyofErmac •10/27/2008 02:54 PM (UTC) •
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
OMG I bet there are some fan boys that wouldn't bat an eyelash if MK was turned into a rated E. That is sooo sad. Sorry pred about earlier, I just get worked up in debates, no e-slaps, lol.
OMG I bet there are some fan boys that wouldn't bat an eyelash if MK was turned into a rated E. That is sooo sad. Sorry pred about earlier, I just get worked up in debates, no e-slaps, lol.
Well what do you want us to do? tip over some mailboxes and blow a hobo? i'm just going with the flow, try it sometime.
Deathbearer •10/27/2008 04:00 PM (UTC) •
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Sounds like something a Sell out does. They take whatever Boon gives them even if it turns into MK: Hugging in Kandy Land, rated EC {early childhood}.
Is it too much for some blood? We already got less of it now they're taking more away from us? That hardly sounds fair, it's our franchise taking the blow, not DC's. This is one of the many reasons I hate DC, they fuck everything up.
Is it too much for some blood? We already got less of it now they're taking more away from us? That hardly sounds fair, it's our franchise taking the blow, not DC's. This is one of the many reasons I hate DC, they fuck everything up.
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