Things to know before people continue ranting and raving in here...
1. DC liked the Fatalities after they received positive reviews from fans and they were only toned down because of the ESRB.
2. It's common knowledge that Midway is on the brink of bankruptcy and wants to sell as many games as possible and that T-rated games sell the most as they reach out to the highest demographic possible.
This game isn't a DC game, it's a Midway and DC game; they came to these decisions together to get the most $$$ out of the final product, and that's what is the biggest concern to them both. This is a collaboration that both sides have to agree on, which means it's not 100% DC's fault, nor is it 100% Midway's, but it's on both sides that the game is rated T and the only reason the fatalities were edited is because the ESRB thought that the fatalities were too violent for a T-rated game.
Honestly, if people are going to blame anyone for decisions with regards to fatalities and blood, at least blame the right freaking people; if you're pissed at the fact that the blood and fatalities are edited, blame the ESRB for being such pansies about what belongs in a T-rated game, and if you want to blame someone for the game being Teen in the first place, blame Midway and DC for selling out.
If more people bought M-rated games, then this wouldn't be a problem, but that's a whole different issue altogether.

We already covered all that you posted.

Then how come a few posts back, you're still talking about how Marvel would want the game to be M-rated as opposed to T-rated?
Every Marvel-based game has been Teen, and as I stated, T-rated games sell the most, so why would they risk sales just to add blood to it?

BIG DEAL ABOUT PAST MARVEL GAMES BEING TEEN!!! Damn i'm getting sick of repeating my self! Marvel has never worked with midway either. But you know what, I'm not about to re-type this crap a third time. Go re-read my post on the previous page.

Your argument has been re-read; that still begs me to point out that DC never worked with Midway either, and has comics which can be just as gritty and gory as Marvel, and DC still went in the direction of having a T-rated game, despite having numerous violent graphic novels and comics. I don't see your point.

The point...my dear sweet friend is that Marvel, unlike DC, wouldn't freaking agree to do a cross over with freaking MK and then worry about their characters getting ripped up. Yes, I'm a life long Marvel fan and know my stuff and i'm not a DC hater, as a matter of fact I love Manhunter. I grew up with both franchises and knows them well.

DC doesn't mind getting their characters ripped apart, as they've stated that they thought that the fatalities were actually pretty cool for the MK and DC guys. The only reason they wanted to have the game be for Teens is so that it would sell more; this has nothing to do with seeing icons killed, it's strictly an issue for monetary gain and nothing more. It really has nothing to do with fan-favourites being ripped limb-from-limb.

Why would Marvel let MK make an M rated game featuring Marvel characters if DC won't? Think about it for one second, please.

DC wants money, and wants to appeal to a wider audience. So they wanted the game to be Teen, so they could get more money. Do we have that fact established? Okay, now onto Marvel. Marvel, like DC, wants money. So like DC, they would want this game to be rated T, to appeal to a wider audience. So they can get more money.

Why in the bluest of blue hell would Marvel let an MK vs. Marvel game be rated M, when they could make much more money with a Teen rating?

And at the end of the day, when you're only doing something for money, 9 times out of 10 it will suck. Should be making a game that will please the loyal fan base that has supported MK since day 1 instead of trying to appeal to a large number of stinking noob tweens who think it will be Sooo kewl to have Superman in a video game. Which is pretty much what they are counting on.

THANK YOU! But this game will SUCK in sells and when it does i'm going to laugh. Tweens aint saving crap.MK2 were a huge success, why? Because the blood appealed to the tweens. Tweens and teens want something thats cool, not kiddish. They want to be able to blow Batman up, they want Superman to rip Scorps head off. We all want something edgy, not something that my seven year old nephew can play. LOL And even he love bloody fatals. Go out and ask every single tween/teen on the street if bloody fatals should be in and they'll answer yes. I've been buying rated M games my own self since I was 13.

I don't know. I think it will probably sell well. Because there are plenty of kiddies that watch the Batman animated series and Superman on networks like Cartoon Network and Jetix. The minute these kids walk into a game stop they are going to go bananas and beg their mothers or fathers to purchase it. Hopefully the money Midway makes from this bastardization will be enough for them to start work on a proper MK game that doesn't include any god damn comic book characters. Here's hoping.

I sure hope so.

XD

It's become kind of ironic. When MKA was coming out, the 'real' MK fans were the people who actually cared about the gameplay, which is what was important. The crappy MK fans were the people who wanted blood, guts, and cool totally radicale fatalities man!

Too bad that most of the real MK fans left after MKA was released. And now we get a game that has gameplay that looks great. But now apparently those people aren't real MK fans. Nope, gameplay doesn't matter if the lame and kiddish Superman is there! He's totally for kids, unlike the hip and in yo face blood like MK which is mature and totally da shiznit.

>_>

Gameplay > Blood and gore

Now you're thinking like a business-person! The differences between what should be done and what is being done is never the same when it comes to money; Midway is banking on those Teens and their parents' money to save them from financial ruin and help them make better games later on. That's why the game is rated T, and it has nothing to do with DC or Marvel, just money and saving Midway.

And it's really ironic that MKA's gameplay was shit. Oh and its super ironic that MK haven't had good gameplay since 1996...whoa that sure is ironic dude...Quit putting words in my mouth, nobody is even saying gameplay is better or less important than gore.

I'm really not upset about all of this,(although in my first post I did strongly react to the editing of the Joker's fatality) I will be much happier with better gameplay then some cool finshing moves that I'll hardly ever mange to actually do(never was good with those fatalities....).
BUT WAIT
The code for the unedited fatalites is probably still in the game right?And if MK vs DC sells well enough on the consoles , there could be chances for a PC port, and on PCs, MODS can be made by the faithful MK community so the fans can see the game as it was originally intended! Woo hoo! Then all you diehard fatality fans will be satisfied!
On second thought,
Who the hell buys a fighting game for PC? I mean seriously, the only time the platform ever provides an experience better than consoles is in FPS, simulations(sim and strategy), and RPGs; and it could also create another "hot cofee" like scandal.....

There is no such thing as a "Real MK Fan" People really need to stop throwing that fuckin term around. How rude is it of you to demean others by claiming only "real fans" care about gameplay. This is exactly the kind of comment that make the MKO community such a lame, horrible place to be. No one can seem to respect anyone's opinions of this game without mocking or being sarcastic. Especially the MK vs DC supporters.

*facepalm*

You hate this game because of a censored fatality, which makes no sense. You're basically judging this game on a short cinematic scene rather than gameplay. That right there tells me that you don't care about gameplay, and want blood instead.

And we haven't had good gameplay since MK3. Some MK fans wanted to get better gameplay, but never got that because most of the "fans" wanted blood and gore rather than quality gameplay. So we ended up with a steaming pile of broken gameplay

No, that was how it was back then (before MKA). People who wanted better gameplay called themselves the real MK fans, and people who just wanted blood were the "bad MK fans."

just because he wants blood and gore doesn't really mean that's all he cares about. i mean gameplay is clearly a very important part of any game and more than likely that'll be what you come back to the game over and over for but in mortal kombat fatalities ARE important. they just are. and while i cannot relate to him on hating the game because of sucky fatalities because i've liked everyone i've seen except for flash i think he has a valid point.

WUT! since some fans wanted blood and gore the MK dev team decided to spend a year developing blood and guts? i don't think so.
i cannot think of one reason why previous to this game the MK team couldn't make a game that had quality gameplay AND was bloody.

we ended up with a sticking pile of broken gameplay because they gave it to us not because fans wanted a bloody game.

Thank you.

Lol people want so much blod and gore its literally killing them sum are even going so low to mock MK saying things like theyll go with a rated EC for early childhood? LOL o man lets be real here people I think its gonna be alright jeez if you were having these money troubles wouldnt you want more sells I mean jeez and besides sum of u r quickly juding of a game that hasnt even come out I know that you may say forming with DC was a bad thing, but cuss me out or whatever I think it will be a great thing due to people wanting to get it who recognize characters such as batman or scorpion or even the critics who watched THE DARK KNIGHT film so least thats what I believe so im not 2 troubled with whats been going on.

okay, I see where you;re coming at. I'll back off from that subject

And what I meant was that the MK fans who wanted quality gameplay tried to get the MK team's attention, but they were ignroed over all the other fans. What I mean is that for every post about gameplay, there were about twenty other threads for stuff that didn't matter, like the eye thing on Reptile in the wallpaper >_>

Seems to me that this game is being made by the same people who always do Mortal Kombat, its being Published by Midway as always, the only difference is it has DC characters.

Seems to me, and I may be way off, that DC has probably already gotten paid for the use of their characters. If this is the case, then why do they care if Midway sells X amount of copies.

To me, this is DC wanting to keep it a T rating to keep their children readers from seeing batman set on fire or shot in the head.

I don't blame them for this. I blame midway. Midway has been struggling in the red for years now and this whole idea of a game seems like a gimmick to make money. Its unfortunate they didn't even attempt to appeal to their customers, but rather to DC's. I much would have rather them gone after a Marvel license agreement, because as we all know, Marvel doesn't care which of their characters get mutilated, as long as it looks incredible as its happening.

I really wish Boon could get Motal Kombat out from under Midway. Everything midway touches becomes absolute garbage.


To people who say Mortal Kombat doesn't need Fatalities... I'm a 27 year old man who's followed this franchise since the very first game in the arcade. I've been a fan of the series for as long as I have the Red Sox or Celtics, this game has ALWAYS been about being the first one in the local arcade to figure out the fatalities... where to stand, what to press, etc.

Everyone figured out the moves, that was nothing, it was all about seeing the guys reaction next to you the first time you ripped the shit out of him.

MK vs DC isn't about them giving us another great Mortal Kombat game. All it's about is Midway trying to make some Holiday profit to try to stay out of Bankruptcy again this December. Its unfortunate us people who have followed the game our whole lives are the ones who get shafted.


Oh yea, LOL @ DC. Midway couldn't even spend the extra dough to get the good comic franchise. Yay I get to play as batman and his bat belt.

OH. okay yeah i remember that particular event like it was yesterday.

and while you do also have a point i refuse to believe that MK just ignores what we want. i think it has more to do with them being unwilling to put it in there. or atleast that's what i used to think.

now i think that has more to do with midway needing an MK game every single year. it means that the dev team doesn't have the time they need to properly work on the actual gameplay mechanics. i mean there are thousands of useless posts about shit that doesn't matter a day but i think the dev team does hear the cries of fans that want quality gameplay.

i think it's about time for them to move away from midway...