Ummm...the game play looks the same to you? I don't know what game you were playing, but I've never been able to string together any special moves after any basic attack in any MK game....period. This game looks like it plays more like a Capcom or SNK fighter now due to the new free combo system. The juggles look more intuitive and just plain amazing with the new engine now. It looks like they kept what worked from MK II/MKD and enhanced it.

You must really only play these gams for the finishers. There's way more fun to be had online and offline with competent play mehcanics than there are with just pulling off a finisher. Finishers should be all about humiliation, not over the top gore that looks like bloody popcorn.


For the record, DC was totally cool with that Joker fatality. If you want to point fingers, point them squarely at the ERSB.

Peace

Now, this sucks, BUT, it isn't the end of the world. The game is still looking AMAZING despite of this.

The fatality looked great. The "fun" mixed with the "violent simplicity" of it made it feel so realistic and gruesome....well, I guess that's exactly why it was changed. Oh well, the game is STILL looking fantastic, and I mean that in the big words: graphics, gameplay, story, etc.

Gameplay looks amazing and a lot of fun. That's important.

I agree with everyone else that Fatalities are A BIG part of Mk and that they are very very very very significant, but they shouldn't be everything. They shouldn't be the ONLY reason you are buying or not buying the game. From what I've seen so far, most of this game's fatalities look much better then the majority that were done in MKDA.

So that's cool.

Anyway, Kitana's and Jax's fatalities also sound very boring, but we obviously have to wait to see before making any assumption.

Catwoman's sounds awesome, hopefully it's not toned down either. And I hope Sonya gets her Kiss of Death with a new fashion/style (Mk3 huge energy bubble would rock!!!).

Mortal Kombat 9: MK vs The Smurfs

Rated E for Everyone

No fighting. No Blood. No Fatalities. Just one big tea party.

And this is exactly why I can't take many of these complaints seriously.

Well maybe, just maybe, this will be the game to prove that MK wasn't all about the blood and gore to begin with?

I mean, it's still a shame that the whole "Nintendo censorship" thing seems to be repeating itself, but the game just might be a lot of fun.

Actually, I'm one of those people who tends to turn the copious amounts of blood and gore down or off when I play the games. I rarely if ever pull off Fatalities and I've followed the franchise mainly due to the interesting and dark storyline and characters.

But I am a hardcore fighting game fan. I own pretty much every major fighting game, from Soul Calibur to Tekken to Virtua Fighter to Street Fighter to Bloody Roar to Killer Instinct to Battle Arena Toshiden to Clay Fighters to 3D Ballz. I know what makes a good fighting game, and I know what I expect from a good and competative fighting game.

MK has not had a refined, deep, or competative fighting engine in years. NOBODY plays MK for the "deep" and "complex" gameplay. You ask any fighting fan, and they'll quickly point out the fact that animations are jerky and rough, gameplay balance is broken, and glitches and infinites are more apparent than in most other fighters.

I have seen every last ounce of MK vs. DCU footage and you know what I see? Jerky movements, attacks and special moves borrowed from previous games with the exact same animations, gimmicks like Klose Kombat and Free-Fall Kombat, and a complete disregard toward frame-count, time-sensitive move executions, wake-up games, or logical counter moves. The game does, admittedly, look to have more diversity in how you string together special moves, but I'm highly skeptical that will only lead to a large portion of infinites that will go unaddressed to meet the deadline.

MK's story, the most important part so far to me, has dwindled to mediocrity. Armageddon was a universal blue-balls experience equivalent to Mario's "Sorry, but your Princess is in another castle." It failed to meet the hype, give proper closure or resolution, and was plagued by some of the most hideous game endings and story plots of a fighting game in recent years. Fans were reasonably upset.

MK vs DC, as far as we know, is not even canonical. Its entire set-up and premise can't possibly make sense. Captain Marvel trading punches with Kitana, and Joker being able to shoot Superman's head off, simultaneously insults both MK fans who longed for a dark, gritty, and realistic game experience and comic fans, such as myself, who now have childhood heroes mingling with killers while their powers seem to be utterly compromised to make the game feasible. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far.

I'm not pointing my finger squarely at Midway, or DC, or at the ESRB. I'm pointing it at everyone involved. Midway should never have done a crossover with DC if it meant neutering the franchise. DC should have known what to expect from what was at one time the most violent game in the world. The ESRB rightfully decreed the violence to be M-rated, forcing Midway to make cuts. This entire game is one big compromise by both DC and Midway, and I'm sick to death of both of it, both as a MK fan and a DC comics fan. If DC wanted a fighting game, they should have just asked the MK team to take a break and do a pure DC characters-themed game. If Midway wanted a clean start, they should have hit the ground running with a robust new fighting engine, jaw-dropping graphics, and realistic levels of violence with a truly kick-ass storyline.

We got a compromised product in the end, though.

I never cared about the Fatalities. Not once. But you'd be foolish to think MK would be anywhere without them. Fatalities MADE MK what it is, and having unremarkable finishers is a severe blow to the brand name and to the fans that expected more. I'm not a gore-hound, but I acknowledge that the violence was part of the appeal of MK.

But right now, if people wanted a mature, dark, gritty, and gory game to satisfy their adult needs, they have alot to choose from. Fallout 3, Gears of War 2, Dead Space, Silent Hill: Homecoming, Resistence 2, and others are all coming out right about now, and all feature far more violence, and maturity, than MK vs DC at the moment.

There's absolutely no way "toning down the Fataltiies" in what was once the most violent game series of all time is a good thing. The game could still be fun. Hell, it could be great. But I KNOW I'm not the only MK fan wishing that I could have my cake and eat it too.

Time will tell, but I desperately need a better reason to like this game other than Batman, slightly improved combat, and Batman. "Sorry MK fans, but your Fatalities are in another game."

Please learn your facts. According to MKO it was both DC and the ratings board who did this. But let's say if its not DC's fault, then why wouldn't DC agree with midway to move the rating up to an M as long as the fatals aren't too over the top?

Its obvious that DC had a hand in this. And don't scream at us! We should be pissed because midway acted as if the fatals were set in stone, so why shouldn't there be an out cry from fans? If the humanoids at midway knew that the fatals weren't set in stone they shouldn't have showed the world on national TV. Deathbearer you were right, MK did sale out. Please someone take MK away from midway.

When I first heard of MK VS DC I tought It was the worst idea ever, but its confirmed, It is the worst idea ever. This game should be called:
"Friendly Kombat Hugging DC"

Lol oh well I guess ill be fine with it when the screen goes black ill just imagine what Hector had showed us and picture it there lol but im not gonna buy the game just 4 that reason because if you said that u need to crawl back under ur rock and keep hating it never knowing if it could possibly be one of the greatest fighting games ever.

This BLOWS!!!!!!! Why can't it just be rated M. It's not like DC hasn't made comics that had curse words and a lot of blood. Take the Watchmen for example. Lots of blood in that comic.

What a crock of shit. That's all I have to say about it.

They must have been aware of the negative impact this would have. Especially since the fatalities in Armageddon were a complete cop-out. That's two MK titles in a row with ballsed-up fatalities. Tell your friends!

Play Deception people. One of the best MK Games, in all his content.

Haha...Turn your computer right side up. lol

"It should be noted that the T rating restriction is not so much from Midway as it is from DC Comics. That said, it is the ESRB who makes the final decision as to what content is allowed, so the ball is very firmly in their court."

It's not gibberish, y'know?

Look, just like I said to the other two guys on the last page. The MkTeam has already gone through the wringer with the DC folks. The last "okay" they need to get through, before the game CAN be released as a T rated game, is the ESRB Rating committee//bureau// or w/e.

They are the "end all be all" as far as what rating a game gets. Regardless of the intent either MK or DC wanted while in the process of actually making the game.

Now, I personally agree with the idea that every party involved in the creation of this game has to take some blame in "Watering Down Mortal Kombat" (like I said when this game was announced 7-8 Months Ago).

But I'm not gonna sit up here now, after a few hundred "I told you so" instances, and point fingers every which-ah-way just because a couple fatalities got even more watered down.
Because.....I told you so...lol!

So, if you didn't know, the root of this adjustment right now, is the ESRB rating folks.

Again, the game is done, DC has approved everything that was in the build that the MkTeam delivered to the ESRB rating folks, but even as meticulous as the DC people are, some of the things they "okay 'd" -- didn't fly with the ESRB rating people. So now the MKTeam has to change some things.

Like I said before...DUH. What did you expect when the goal from the beginning was to "push the T rating"? Aheh, the "Elder Gods" of the gaming industry simply....pushed back.

hahaha....

Ok , I really have to say that this is fucking bullshit. Especially for the Joker's fatality, I know for a fact that I have seen things of that nature in other T rated games. And another thing, does anyone thinks it's possible that the ESRB is rating the game more strictly just because it is Mortal Kombat? (the game that helped create the ESRB)

Funny how you didn't address the fact that DC CAN change the rating to M as long as its not too bloody.

Yeah, like DC would allow an M-rated game with Batman knowing that hundreds of soccer moms would buy the game for their kids after the massive success of The Dark Knight.

Maybe next time you people will listen to me :\

Alright people. complaint and resolve

COMPLAINT
Where is the proof? Kotaku's been wrong before. Do we have any confirmation that this actually happened?

RESOLVE
Hvae the Joker shoot the opponent in the heart or chest. Since apparently Kitana's fatality had her impaling the opponent in the head, but now impales the chest. That way we could still keep the funny

I suppose Alien Vs Predator sold out... Freddy Vs Jason sold out... Marvel Vs Capcom sold out... Marvel Vs Street Fighter sold out... Hulk Vs Superman sold out... Capcom Vs Tatsunoko sold out.... and all the other Versus series all sell out... because it's clear that if you pair one thing with another you are basically selling out, no questions asked.

Let's not forget experimenting is a HUGE waste of time and effort. If they just give us the same lousy crap we had in the last 3 games we would be just fine. BRING on the HUGE ridiculous body explosions and pool of blood, because otherwise I'm not buying it. Make sure to add ALL of my favorite characters, or you will have to put up with my crying until the game's release.

This isn't DC or MK's method of reaching out to a wider audience and trying fresh ideas, they're just trying to piss off the hardcore fans that want a lot of killing. I mean really, who gives a shit about the gameplay, fighting engine, graphics, and story when you can have lots of people's limbs exploding!

This game is absolutely ridiculous and I will definitely not buy it! When people on the forums ask me I will tell them that I will be renting it or buying it when it gets cheaper, even though I've secretly pre-order the game months ago and I'm dying to get my hands on it and play it all night anyways.

BTW, bring back Reptile! I will mention this in every post, while I nag and annoy everyone do death about how Reptile is awesome and how he's my favorite character of all time... and the people at Midway are a bunch of retards for not adding him to the roster! Because they didn't add him I will begin to criticize all the renders very harshly and biased because I am pissed off at Ed Boon for the silliest things. Don't even get me started on Kitana's ribbon. God! I can never enjoy this game with her anymore! It's just... just... impossible! She's ruined completely!

>I swear to God that the next person who jumbles up what I say is getting SLAPPED. I'M not saying it sold out cause its a cross over it sold out because its bending over and letting DC ream them in the ass. THATS selling out my love.

Guys don't threaten guys with slaps... let alone E-slaps. Don't be mean, for all you know DC is saving Ed's ass, not reaming it. Stop viewing the glass as half empty and start viewing it as half full. This could possibly turn out to be the best MK game we've had in a decade. Man, you're so full of hate for something that's not even out yet, I can't describe whether it's funny or just sad.

Vomit, I like you.

A M rating is not on the table as far as we know. Nor has the possibility ever been hinted at concerning DC, so you should let that thought go. Considering this, it is only a logical thought process to conclude that they are adamant about getting the T rating for this game.

Also, remember it's a joint venture between 2 huge franchises. If they set out for a goal, they either get it, or else the project suffers. Right now, the worst thing that could happen to this project is if DC committed to a M rating. Why? Because this would be a pretty weak attempt at a M rating as is. And at this point, if they wanted to delay the game and try and capitalize on the M rating, it'd throw off fiscal profits for MIDWAY. It's not gonna go down like that bra.

They're gonna get the T rating, it's just gonna hurt alot, the more that fans know that they have to keep watering the game down.

Roughly 3weeks before release? You can bet, It's gonna be T rated.



Cool out man. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one on these last two pages or so who can actually "E-Slap" anybody.

lol, that's so retarded. haha..."E-slap". Thx Vomit.