the tombstone drop was already toned down, it wouldnt be returning that way if it was revised not to do so in a later version.

i keep seeing these 2 words under like 10 or so attacks in the movelist, and they double.. if theres a attack with square, and another attack lower down on the list with just square too, itll have these 2 words ( in german obviously ) under them.

in my opinion, those 2 words or those attacks are the wake up moves, some even ( seen in dairous mi zong list ) have more than more attack linked to them, such as square square triangle for example, with those words under them.

just a thought, the two words look something like IM PLUG, if anyone can translate, or get a better picture of those few letters, im curious as to what they are. wake up is all i can ponder

that is all, carry on

its air combos. every character has the same attacks.

Yeah those two words probably mean "in the air"

Dan - Actually you can see that in Hua Chuan there's actually more "in air" combos....... every style has a few different stuff in the air.......



Shujinko - Well when you think about him with Mantis and Dan Tien Dao is horrible so maybe his throw is good for him so he wouldn't be 100% crap.

I just hope they'll remove those throws.......

i see... thanks guys

i also thought every guy had the same air attacks so i thought nothing of them being listed.

hjs, u had mentioned something about easy 50 for some characters, one that comes to mind is kabal, he will still have an easy 50-55 and possibly ALOT more.

spin, u3, cs, 114, cs, 112

or u3, cs, 114, 114cs

etc..

now for more, i can definitly see kabal jumping up into the air for a air combo after 114 in hookswords, and if u can combo again back on the ground after the air combo, forget about it, hes gonna have something real nasty such as

U3, cs, 114, jump up, 11234, land, 114cs = well over 80% it should be

hell maybe itll be an inf since your doing 114 back on the ground, lol.. scary thought..

just more food for thought, any reply/help would be very grateful, thanks.

note: its not confirmed to be able to juggle back on the ground, although i remember hearing it several times since the begining of the media for this game.

i doubt too many characters will have such juggles like that if they even exist, judging by most of the stances, it should be alright, but this one came to mind, so i posted it.

regardless he'll still have easy 55% damage.

peace

also about jinkos throw, the recovery looked kinda slow, sure he was able to buffer a lift, which will surely juggle, but it would do minimal damage.

again its not a definite, just looked like he couldnt move much after it.

The game play, to me, sounds very complicated. I don’t know if ill like this one to much. well i mean i know I’m going to like it wither the game play is easy or not, I’m a big fan of the franchise, but I don’t know if I be as good at it as I am with deadly alliance or deception. and I don’t really like things that I’m not good at lol

so then the air combos are universal? that sucks...and reeks of mk4 :(

does this game have virtical jumps? i see a lot of forward and backwards...but not straight up.

5 new characters

Nitara

She lost Fu Jow Pai and she kept Leopard and Kama

Leopard is exactly the same. this is an ok style but not too good. mixing up d+1 d+3 and 4 is good.

Kamas were kick ass in DA, now they seem to have the same basic moves but different combos.

In DA with 1,3,4 / 3,4 etc there were some sick mix ups. If those mix up are back she will be mid tier just for that.

As for specials:

Nitara has an escape! I love escapes, they are a great tool to turte, and reorganaize your attacks.

She has a blood fist from the air which looks ok.

She her two specials from DA, the unicorn kick which will probably useless again because it's so unsafe, and the Blood Spit.

Her throw looks insane!! it does 17% and Nitara heals 8%. Total of 25%.

That's a bit too strong if you ask me.......

If she has DA Kama's and she keeps her throw....... She will be a bad ass......

Hsu Hao

Hsu Hao now has Sumo!

Sumo was...... ok in MKD. d+1 was a good poke and b+1 was a nice mid pop up.

It has two new combos.

1,2,4 and b+4,2,2

He kept his Sun Moons. They are the almost the same. They have this useless 4,4,4 (kicks) combo.

He has many new specials.

Hsu Hao has a power up! it's fast as fuck.......

He has a new weird projectile, it's like a little ball that jumps in the ground (yeah it's weird as it's sounds).

He has a move like Kano's laser that's looks really fast.

He has his old useless stomp and the klap which was ok.

Shang lost Crane and kept Snake and the sword.

Snake is not too good......... u+2 now does 16%

His sword changd alot and that's bad cause his DA sword was the coolest thing ever.

His new sword has some new combos......

He has his old DA specials and a new teleport into a low kick which looks cool, it will probably unsafe.....

His throw is his old stomp throw........

Shang looks not too good.....

Jax

Jax kept Muhi Tai and Tonfas.

Muhi Tai was ok in DA.... nothing too good......

Now it looks different, it has a new combo - d+1,d+1,d+2. WOW this combo sounds great, 3 lows, damm...

He seems to have lost the 2,2,1,b+2 combo.

His tonfas are Tanya's version of the Tonfas which are ok.......

His ground pound is back and faster.......

Jax doesn't look very good......

Mokap

Mokap looks cool!

Jeet Kuan Do is Jun Fun which is great news for you Mokap fans out there lol .....

Wing Chun is the same and that's crap.

He has some new specials.

He has a teleslam! looks like a mid to me. Teleslams are awsome....

He has a new projectile, Scorp's kick and a new charge move.

With a good throw Mokap can be good......

Few new stuff.....

Kai has Moi Fah, poor Kai......

Frost Tong Bei has changed a bit and have some new combos.

She also has her daggers.

She has two new specials moves, the german guy couldn't do them..... maybe they were not implemented in the game?

TANYA - My bitch has Yue Chuan back!!!! Yeah, such a great style.

w/ that 3 hit low poke combo jax has Muhi Tai might be a decent stance. mix it up w/ cs 11 and you gotta love th e "aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhh"
im definitly adding him to my top 10!!


mocrap looks ok, i hate teleslam moves it better hit high and not mid.


Nitara w/ a flight type move bolds well for sindel having a fligh type move, ill cream my pants if she has a flight type move and a new throw!! ill even tape it for every one and show im praying they did a sindel move list video!!

shang and that teleport looks HOT!! now thats a teleport!! why couldnt they give that to kitana

hey just a question, was yue chuan Tanya's first style in mkd or her second one?

Second one.

Nitara: I'm glad she has Leopard and Kama. She sounds like she's going to be good, but I wish they would take out her Unicorn Kick. What's Blood Fist? Overall, she sounds pretty good to me.

Hsu Hao: Him having Sumo is pretty fucked up. I hope he'll get a revamped version of Shuai Chiao. His specials sound pretty good overall, but he doesn't look that good.

Shang Tsung: I'm glad he has Snake and Straight Sword. I hope they can do a good job with Snake, and I'd like to see a good low poke from it at least. I hope that he'll be good in the final version.

Jax: His unarmed style is spelled Muay Thai. Tonfa can be singular or plural. The same applies to Kama, Sai, etc. His Muay Thai style needs a lot more elbows and knees, that's for sure. When you're talking about the new combo, are you referring to Muay Thai or Tonfa? I wonder how the Tonfa is going to be different from the Nightsticks. What about his other special moves?

Mokap: Jeet Kune Do is not Jun Fan, but in terms of the games, they play similarly to each other. Wing Chun being the same is sad. His style choices are terrible. What do you mean by Teleslam? What kind of projectile does he have? Charge move? Does it look like the one he had in MKDA?

Kai: Has Moi Fah, eh? What about his other style?

Frost: So she has Tong Bei, Daggers, and 2 new specials. Hmm...

Tanya: I'm glad Tanya has Yue Chuan back, but what is her other style?

She was used as a dummy for Frost, so she never switched to her weapon style. Unless there's another video for her lying around somewhere.

damn no love yet for kenshi i see. does anybody know if they are gonna keep releasing character vids from germany? thanks

there are mistakes on the first page:
fujin has lui he not ying yeung which reiko has.
sheeva has kuatan not shokan

I dont get it. There are really no branch combos right? So far im getting the idea the longest combo will only be like 7 hits. If this is the case then why even implement breakers. Also, i love how MKD has 50/50 doesnt sound like this will have one at all. Note, i hope Subzero rocks

i have another complaint, although it is too early to say who will be top tier low tier and mid tier, all im reading is "he will be low tier, he will be mid tier"


what i wanna know is, who will be High Tier??? its safe to say scorpion and kabal at this point ( even though thats not including all the gameplay additions to the game ) but who else will really be up there? we;ve got a good look at the majority of stances and specials, whats the deal? anyone?

i think its gonna come down to counter picking again to some point check.

we know this will be a defensive game, now yes jax has weak stances, but his gun reaches full screen, so a charatcer that teleports will be needed.

same for sektor, he has the fast sweep in kenpo, and the flame thrower that also reaches full screen.

rigth now i say top 5 are

subby
scorp
jarek
mokap
?


right behind

tanya
ermac
hsu hso
nightwolf


as long as recovery times are the same as mkd.

I think Kitanas gonna be mid-tier like u said earlier but since they decided to give her ba gua,she wont be able to do any faceplants but that style had mid-tier moves that cannot even start a juggle(no uppercuts).bua gua has one but she might be more of mid-tier because of those additions.Shes gonna be pretty good just mid-tier which isnt not bad at all.

lol, not if they implement the timer again like Malone asked them to do.Then counterpickers will lose power because both players can play chicken on the select screen equally, know what I mean? hehe


One thing I hope they're also working on is the recovery time off of special moves like the older MK's where you can actually block immediately after a missed fireball, and not get buffers off of blocked fireballs with certain characters.

Example, in Deception Kabal can buffer a spin off of a blocked freeze off subby(i've done it) Noob's star toss, block and spin as long as you're mid or closer, Raiden's lightning toss from the same distance etc.

But hey if they keep this the same, free buffers for me since I can buffer pretty fast.

BTW, I'm sure I'm the only person that feels this way but the side stepping I felt was better in MK:DA then Deception.It seemed stiff or too fast at times in deception and in MK:DA I could literally side step and attack at the same time virtually, something that I've noticed they toned down in deception a bit.

What ever though, since the jumping is back that means more turtlers and less side stepping.

I agree with most of what Redsleen said.

Nitara imo with her sick throw will also be high.

Sub, Scorp, Hsu Hao, Liu Kang, Mokap, Smoke, Chameleon, Nitara, Kabal

This are my top tiers so far......

EDIT - How could I forget Sonya!? she looks so strong.....

actually up+4 is a mid pop up& f+3, then the uppercut. so thats 3 pop ups. all combos that end w/ 3 is a plant.





about the tiers guys

theres only 2 characters we can be certain will be higher tier and thats Scorpion and Sonya :-X. the rest we cant really say, we've only seen about 33% of the cast and their moves, we dont know shit about the rest. they could all be better then the ones we seen.

I think scorpions 50% attack combo was like 40 but its broken enough i bet sub-zero may not even do that but his kori blade juggle was just fast though..dont know much about him since his e3 style was nan chuan

Check,u are really become a sore loser if you keep staying on topic. YOU SUCK FOR SURE IF YOU DONT STAY ON TOPIC. You may suck, so if i were you id stay back to topic or do yourself a new post