I'm really suprised why they didn't gave Kitana Eagle Claw, I mean who else can get it? Baraka?



MKU said "Wake Up can be trained" I hope they mean Midway expanded practice mode and made it useable like Tekken......

you are correct. although the styles can still change you know.

now if u would excuse me i have to go prepare for hurricane ernesto great thread hjs, keep it alive while im gone.

Check is wackier than an episode of Animaniacs. Beat the crap out of me(when our lifetime series is basically even)? Best Sub-Zero? *shakes head*

Let's go to the PS2 board and ask who has the best Sub-Zero/Is the best Player Overall, me or you. FUCK! We can't! You're afraid to fight anyone so they have nothing to base your skill on except me bigging you up(which I should stop doing since you obviously have no respect for my game).

*sigh*...it's iight man. i'll leave you alone from now on. Continue to swim in your fantasy world. Good luck with the hurricane. I don't want your trailor tumbling over.

One thing you gotta understand, HJS, is that they don't really understand what makes a stance good or not. I am pretty sure they are not intentionally trying to make Kitana low tier by giving her Ba Gua. They just don't understand why Eagle Claw is better and gave her whatever.

I don't mind. Shit, playing super low tier characters is hardcore. Kitana will own!

Great HJS!

But it is bad news that they will reduce Gameplay to two styles per character.

Sektor:
Style: Wikipedia says: Kenpo; In the E3 Demo he has Yue Chuan which looks exactly like Choy Lay Fut from Ermac in MK:D.
but since Ermac gets Choy Lay Fut they changed it?
Weapon: Pulse Blade (Wikipedia)

Uranius

Oh yeah, no doubt they don't know they are fucking her up with the styles they're giving her but I just don't see who else will get it?

It fits Kitana so well........


Ermac is added to the list (he has Choy Lee Fut)

theres jade and tanya that could get eagle claw.


this is very upsetting. eagle claw had all kinds of possible high/mid/low combo mix ups. is there any way she has 2 hand to hand styles and that her fan is just her moves now(fire ball and fan wave)?

im not as mad about sindel now. if she still has kwan do and a new throw she'll be ok. zha can be for combo damage and kwan do for insane 50/50 mix ups, as long as she has a throw. high level sindel is all kwan do anyway. atleast when me and groy are playing vs each other trying to win.

things the mk team needs to do to zha

b+3
has to come out faster. its a slow clip that is worthless, if it came out faster it would help her low poke game in that style greatly (imo).

up+3
should hit mid. in mkd the move came out fast, but it hit high and was rendered useless because of it. or even make it a new attack.

2
the attack needs to be something else. if she does 2 and its blocked she sits there forever it doesnt even give much damage. its another pointless attack. even in a combo its a dumb pop up.

combos

4444 needs to now be mixed in w/ low and mid attacks.
like
44 B+1 (high, high, mid pop up)
444 b+3 (high, high, high, low)
444 cs 4, up+1 (high, high, mid, mid, mid) if she has kwan do

her leg grab needs to be added into combos.

example ~ 1,1, leg grab.

combos like those would help Zha Chaun greatly.

above all else she needs a new thorw!!

Versatile~what do you think they should do to Bagua and zha to improve the styles? (side note, i do still respect your fighting in mkd)



Drumz- dont provoke check please. you know how he gets :-X

You need to let go of the MC thing just like everyone else did. I wouldn't leave a clan full of people who I care about for no reason. You need to trust my decision wasn't irrational.

I actually don't remember why Ba Gua sucks, but what I'm goig to do is pop in MKDA and unlock kitana and go to practice mode. I'll post some shit here then.

Give me about an hour, and good ideas by the way. I want Sindel to be good even though I won't be playing her. Very cool character.

*edit* Check my post in the rebuilding TKO thread. Don't give up on them. The game didn't even come out yet. Remember that with the parry and wake up and throw escapes EVERY CHARACTER should theoretically be able to hang. It's just going to take some work on your behalf. Remember that nobody thought Mileena was shit until you started playing her.

I'm not Versa but my 2 cents

Zha Chua -

b+1 needs to be safe. Now that she lost Fu Jow Pai she must have a safe mid.

4 needs to be a mid. It must be usefull.

2 needs to be a low - like Jade's 3 in Kou Sho. Make it unsafe and slow maybe but a low.

b+3 needs to be faster, like scorp's sweep for example.

More combo options and mix ups.

like - 4,4,b+1 / 4,4,2

And longer combos that you can interpute (like Jade's branches):

4,4,1,1,b+1


Ba Gua -

u+4 should be 100% safe

b+4 should be slower

3 should be a mid and have a good recovery.

with that you can combo like:

u+4, 1,3, 1,2,2,3

More combos and mix ups.

1,2,2,u+4 / 1,2,2,b+4






first post updated

There's no way that kitana wont have her steel fans. There's no reason to think that the styles wont be expanded/adjusted Ba Gua changed from MKDA to MKD so hopefully it will be the same for MKA. I still wish she would have kep eagle claw though. Poor sindel with Zha Chuan most of her game revolved around Fu jow pai down+4,1 back+2 mix ups. At least she'll still have Kwan Dao. BTW according to the German site Kitana has beefed up specials (more than in MKDA).

Is there some kind of subliminal message to you beating up on Sub-Zero?


Just kidding, but those are good ideas. The thing with 4,4,4,b+3 is that against a high level player that b+3 isn't going to fool anyone. That sweep is far too slow to be considered in a legit 50/50.

I dont have time to unlock Kitana, but I don't remember anything in Ba Gua worth using. Let me read what HJS said.

lol no subby is just the 1st guy to be picked ~ player 2 in practice.

well yeah b+3 is slow, thats why im praying they speed it up greatly. its crap in MKD it should be fast like Kick boxing b+4 or even mils clip in mian.

side note didnt scorpion do easy 50% combos in the E3 version?

Scorpion is going to be decent in all Mortal Kombat games. He is the creator's favorite character, so you can expect him to be at least mid tier again.

He has Hapkido so he should be pretty damn good. Looks like he lost Mogai Ryu, but Hapkido was still pretty good to begin with.


Mid tier for sure.

u respect an inf using scrub in denial? thats funny, i guess u think that thing with the clone isnt an inf either

u also respect his lag, that im sure u have no problem relating to, seeing as urs is worse than his.

and "you know how he gets"???? what? i enjoy/ed owning drumz on a daily basis verbally, its what i do for a living.

that goes for anyone else who would like to have a pointless conversation with me over the obvious. can u tell? i dont care, i just reply to u fools with ur sorry ass comments.

and lol at not one person agreeing with me on that clone inf. hahaha, that doesnt surprise me with a bunch of laggers in denial with huge mk egos about being the "best", the big L O L again

provoke me! please! ; )

thank you, that is all, and carry on now with your good selfs

hurricane ernesto here we come!

i was meaning that he had Zha Chaun in the E3 version so sindel might be able to do easy 50% combos

was trying some combos w/ kitana in the MKD version.
came up w/
Ba Gua ~ up+4 cs 1,1,1,1, b+2 =40%
Ba Gua ~ up+4 cs 1,1, cs(cs), 2,2,3=43% can get more hits + damage w/ just 2 styles and possible cs chain combos.
Steel fan ~ 1,1,b+2,1,1,1,1b+2=35%
steel fan 3,3 can be used like tanyas weapon 1,1 50/50 mix up.

beat the crap out ( it favors me around 65-35) about even, yea if u count the times i was playing u clean, WAY BACK, and last time we played, ur sub lost 10-2, jade liu kenshi kabal, sub, who else did i bet ur sub with that day?

haha, thats right u have the best sub zero LOOOOOOOOL, i remember when i told him about how he was using the clone as an inf, his reply?

"thats how sub zero is played at his highest level"

so infing people is high level play, huh chris? whos the wacky one here?

and leave me alone? dude i dont talk to u, i simply said what u do with sub zero is an inf, will u ever admit it, like ur horrendous lag? of course not, its all ME, and im the crazy one, lol, u fool...

thanks, but i dont live in trailer, really if u want me to take a picture of it, im sure its bigger than ur crib, and alot nicer. btw, 3 major hurricanes, and not a scratch? yea that was real good chris, you got alot of class too, talking about living situations at 16!! arent u still a virgin? LOL good luck catching up, 7 years ahead of you scrub. keep infing!!

lol, im afraid to fight everyone, thats right, thats why i play the best players and not them, right? Woooooooooooow! you are dull! and why would i care about people who arent as good as me think? you sure seem to, i wonder why? so its ok to play people better them, but not them right? then ask for their opinions, and not the people who are better than them. lol, lets go back 2 weeks ago. without me even asking " alot better than versas" quoted from dave in sub vs dai and also also sub vs scorp. get the fuck out of here!!!!!!!! sad ass dude you are!

that clone thing aint a inf, right versatile?

wacko, better yet ima bring people into my clan, then leave em high and dry!! thats how sane i am!

peace though

btw versatile, why dont u tell everyone how wacky i am?

I wouldn't mind if jade got eagle claw... kitana sure does look sexy w/ it though, and it goes into steel fans really well.

I could definately do w/out jade having FanZi though... pretty much useless w/out the full branch. jade's long combos have always been her trademark though. i hope ed doesnt make me cry. we can hold eachother dan.


my bad, you right... i just saw like 4 straight posts of Versa bashing for no reason... id do the same for you.
*OOPSIE* maybe "owning" me verbally could be a possibility if your tweaked out brain could form a coherent sentence rational enough for at least one member/guest on here to actually read. For now... just keep hanging out in that crack baby head of yours where things only make sense to you, until someone can actually pump you full of enough medication to ease your multitude of personality disorders. I said gooddaySir.

"65-35"

Enough proof Check is still smoking that PCP, and so are his imaginary friends who say his Sub is anywhere near mine(hope it isn't Dave or Karate since I victimize them both with the ice man).

That's all I'll say, depressed tooty fruity.

~Dan~

One example of a stance getting better from MKDA through MKD is Scorpion's Hapkido. In MKDA everything was basically punsihable, while in MKD almost everything(everything good) is unpunishable. We can only hope as Kitana players that her Ba Gua gets beefed up just like Hapkido did.

Don't panic. I see that ass all shivering over on PS2 talking about how you rollin with CACs..lolzy.

no reason huh? just like no reason to reply to ur nonsense, RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT, you are right again!! congratulations, you have done it again!!

only this time, u walked away, wow now theres a shocker, let me be the first to tell it has been a pleasure talking to u sir!!!!!! and your good good good friend versa

take your L7 ass out of here, what are either of you even doing here? espicially you other than to get me going. dont stop i love it. both of you fools.

peace man, take care and all that good stuff. dont forget im scared to fight u and everyone else, cuz thats me, scared of video games.

p.s- still the greatest, and own everyone except thug at the moment later!

ps.s- your lag scares me

You kidding? MKDA Hapkido is way better then MKD. 100% safe too btw in MKDA.

btw, dan were u ever planning on posting the results or even ggs in the one stance tourny thread?

Kyle, lets leave Check alone. This is not new for any of us. I am very used to him inflating(and downright making up) scores, blocking out losses and acting like he's the best when he's afraid of you and Karate(which is why he wont play him with throws). His chemical imbalance problem is extreme and let us all pray for him instead of giving into his tantrums. Be like the wise man Dancock and ignore.

"*OOPSIE* maybe "owning" me verbally could be a possibility if your tweaked out brain could form a coherent sentence rational enough for at least one member/guest on here to actually read. For now... just keep hanging out in that crack baby head of yours where things only make sense to you, until someone can actually pump you full of enough medication to ease your multitude of personality disorders. I said gooddaySir."

Dont say shit like that. Lets just be the sane people here and leave him be. Let him believe what he wants.

Lets get this back on topic.

HJS, my dude, can you do me a favor? I know you're anxious to get this topic up and rolling, but can you take out character data for fighters we haven't seen in action yet? It's kind of pointess talking about Sindel and Kitana when we really haven't seen them in action yet. Otherwise everything is perfect in my eyes.

~Onaga~

I don't know if you guys have seen the video of Onaga vs Shao Kahn, but so far he looks very "unique" to say the least. He doesn't have a stance(neither does Motaro and Moloch) and I am really wondering how he will operate. Will it be harder to juggle him? Will it even be possible at all? If they can't be juggled then they have to make for that in some way. Perhaps make ground moves do extra damage to do them or give them less of a bar.

I look forward to using these big guys. Moloch,Blaze,Motaro nor Onaga is in my top 10, but they look like they will be fun and probably effective.

Yeah I know we havn't seen them in action but I say "if", that's a very impotant word..... lol

I'm just guessing, they said Kitana has Ba Gua, she will 99.9% get Steel Fans, most style havn't changed 1 bit from MKD and I doubt they will, I mean its 128 styles...... I don't think they will change every style......


Anyways.....

Yeah I saw Onaga, "unique" is a great word to describe him.....

I think he fights like he did in MKD, he has a new throw though......


Moloch is not a big character anymore, he is smaller than Li Mei lol



Check, Versa - two things

1. Take it to the ps2 forum
2. MKD is dead, it's like fighting who has the best Mileena in MK2 (Me if you ever wonderd). just forget it........