1000th post.

Any thoughts in regards to the tier list yet?

How is Kira shaping up? Yuan Yang should make her a better contender.

Any more news on Jade?

Hows Mileena?

And how are Raiden and Kung Lao shaping up?

Didn't played the game much but from what I've played Mileena is still great, Kung Lao with b+3 (a low that juggles) and SF f+1 and d+1 is also very good.

Raiden still owns.

And Kira and Jade?

And speaking of Raiden, who has Jujutsu? Is it even in the game?

I'm not sure but I think Smoke has it. I'm at college right now so I can't really tell you for sure

No, Smoke has Mi Tzu and Judo.

Nobody has Jujutsu.

Lame. I suppose it wasn't the best attacking style but they could've improved it.

Blaze and Moloch being the exceptions,the game seems rather balanced so far.It's definitely more balanced than MK:D at this point.

Versa and I talked the other day,and we agreed that Sareena,Noob,Scorpion,Sub-Zero,Quan Chi,Jax,and a few other questionable characters,might all be top 10.

Is Cyrax better than he was in MKDA? He's still got d+1 in Ninjitsu, 4 hits mid...I think?

He's actually got some combos in Pulse blade now (I wish they would've kept the sword blue though lol). Like a bunch of other characters I noticed, he's got D+1 in Pulse Blade which seems to be Scorpion's D+1 from Mugai Ryu, so that should help him I hope.

And what of Nitara?

Some of my favourites are in there so that's good to hear. Thanks.

Kira is improved a lot (which I'm glad to say .) 4 in Yuan Yang hits mid and can be used in a 4,4,u+3 popup combo. All attacks in the combo are very safe. U+3 hits high so it can be ducked by a savvy gamer however 4,4 (or just 4) is a free throw so you can mix it up with that. D+4 is decent low with good reach but is kind of slow. Her Kiss of Death no longer reduces damage either, although there is a delay in between the amount of times you can do it. Strangely, Sonya's K.O.D. can be done twice in a row with no problem. Her Dragon Teeth still suck, but in no way is Kira low tier anymore!

Mileena is the same, which is a good thing! 4,1 is still an awesome combo although doing the ground roll afterwards no longer gives you a free throw. I think 4 still does though. The distance and speed of her throw has been toned down too, but she's still great. Her lows are excellent and her teleport kick can be done in the air.

MK2Dave, just wondering why you think Scorpion is top tier? To me, he doesn't seem that great(altho I haven't used him that much), his only launch combo, 2, 3, b+4 nerfs all the damage so badly after it, and hes special moves, outside of the teleport punch didn't seem to useful to me. Hes good, but I'd like to hear your reasoning for picking him as top tier

I agree with most of the others you mentioned, in addition I would think about adding Sonya and Hsu Hao.

Hapkido -

2

3

b+3

2,3

2,3,u+4

Sword -

d+1

f+1

Nice juggles

Throw

Hellfire

All this = top 10.

Dave,

Did I play you online lastweek? Are you Daven? Rnaked 2 at the time?

Your KAK
Your Moloch = Weak Sauce LOL

As far as me getting 1 round on you, w00t! Thanks for that.

I spend so much time tweaking my KAK, I haven't learned any of the new fighters yet...apart from maybe Taven from Konquest, and basic MKD carry over stuff...

Can you PM me some KAK pointers or TIPs?

~CYD

No,I'm IGNIZ or TKOIGNIZ online.I don't use KAK's.I think they're BS.

Anyway,HJS already explained it,but another reason Scorp why good is because of:

Wep. f+1, Spear, 2,2,1, Hellfire, side step, throw

about 50%+ of damage right there.

Anybody who has spammable and fairly safe launchers into high damage is top tier especially online.That's now the case since 50/50 mix ups are much harder to set up in MK:A for most characters.

Some Combos...

Shang Tsung
Weapon>(near wall)D+2, jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,3,4 9hits 38%
B+3, cs,jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,3,4 9hits 33%
Weapon>(near wall)D+2, D+2, DB+3 3hits 33%
Weapon>(near wall)D+2, 1,1,3 4hits 33%
B+3, 1,1,2,B+1 5hits 32%
B+3, jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,4 8hits 32%
Weapon>(near wall)D+2, 1,1,4 4hits 32%
1,1,B+3, jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,4 10hits 31%
B+3, 1,1,2,cs 5hits 30%
1,1,B+3, B+3, DB+3 5hits 29%
B+3,B+3 DB+3 3hits 26%
Weapon> D+2(near wall) DB+3 2hits 24%
Weapon> D+2, 4 2hits 22%

Kano
U+4, cs,jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,3,4 9hits 31% (44% with inner rage)
U+4, jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,4 8hits 30% (42% with inner rage)
U+4, 1,1, 1,1,2(wiffs),cs 7hits 30% (40% with inner rage)
U+4, 1,1, 1,1,2 6hits 25% (37% with inner rage)
1,1,2, jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,4 10hits 24% (33% with inner rage)
U+4, 1,1, BF+4 4hits 23% (35% with inner rage)

Kira
4,4,U+3, cs,1,3 5hits 33%
4,4,U+3, 1,2,cs 6hits 33%
4,4,U+3, 4,4,1,2 7hits 33%
U+3, cs,jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,3,4 9hits 31%
4,4,U+3, 4,4,1,1 7hits 31%
4,4,U+3, cs,B+1,B+2 7hits 31%
1,2,cs, jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,3,4 11hits 31%
4,4,U+3, U+3, BF+4 5hits 30%
4,4,U+3, 4,4,F+1 6hits 30%
Weapon>2, jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,3,4 9hits 30%
1,1,U+3, cs,jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,3,4 11hits 29%

Been playing arond with Jarek and i found some pretty good combos with him.

Axe stance: u2, 1344, bf3 = 48%
u2, 44, cs, 12u4 you can mix it up a bit and end it with 112 or 123 both will yield damage around 28 or 29%

and also in axe stance: u2, 13444, u3. do the last move at waist height or you ill jump into the air. 31%

oh so i played you (TKOIGNIZ) today. I was SUBXERO using subzero and you used Sareena. Whats the best counter to Sareena's sai(or whatever she throws) throw? It is so damn fast. How many can she fire at one go?

i just got the game so can you tell me how to do a jeark cobo

Thanks. I know how Yuan Yang works as I used it alot in MKDA. I just wanted to know if people thought she was better. I'll make her top tier if I have to.

And Mileena always rules!

I can't wait to use them both.

Sorry, guys. The first combo should start with the lasso move. So in the end it should be like this.

Axe stance: db1, 1344, bf3 = 48%

Another question for you NTSC players.

Are there seperate rooms online for those wanting to use and play versus KAK's and those not don't want to use or play them as Boon said there would be? (The latter being a room where only normal characters can be selected and not KAK's.)

yes

Most of the upgrade Kira got is that her kiss got toned up and it helps her alot.

Didn't Yuan Yang go unused in MKD? You're referring to Ying Yeung perhaps?

what about this one for shang hjs?


1,1,b+2,b+2,soul steal 5 hits 35 % +restore health