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10/07/2006 03:32 AM (UTC)
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m2dave Wrote:
Darrius' d,f+3 was parried,which means that MK:A's parry probably parries all attacks (highs,mids,and lows as well as all special moves that make contact with the opponent except (?) grabs).

And after the Darrius throw,the opponent can tech.You couldn't do that in MK:D.

MK:A should be a lot better than MK:D,but it will definitely have its amount of bull shit I would assume.60 characters is still a lot to handle even when you add the appropriate gameplay elements.


PS:Are Sheeva's TS Drop and Stomp both unblockable?What about Rain's Lightening Shock?



I'm pretty certain Sheeva's TS move and her teleport aren't blockable, as for Rain I've seen a lot of his vids, his lightning move is definitely NOT blockable, you have to either jump or sidestep to avoid it.

Chameleon also has this move hehehe.

BTW, Chameleon has 5 key moves from some of the ninjas just in case you guys are wondering to those who don't know.

Sub's cold shoulder
Reptile's dash
Rain's Lightning bolt(unblockable)
Ermac's green wave fireball
Scorpion's MK:D teleport kick

His lightning bolt will be key and I know some here might disagree with this but the cold shoulder isn't a bad move when used wisely, if the match comes down to it you hold block and buffer it, I think it'll be a great tactic.
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10/07/2006 06:03 AM (UTC)
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I've noticed something interesting with Chameleon's video, I could be wrong.

When Chameleon did Sub-Zero's move, he was blue.
When he did the telekinetic move, he was red.
When he did the lightning move, he was purple.

I was wondering if it was just when he did a certain move, then he changed into that particular color.

Or is it you have to wait to be that color, then you can do the move, like Chameleon in MKT?


Darrius special got parried. I don't know if I like having special moves being parried.

I have to admit I am kind of disappointed that majority the deception characters are pretty much copy and paste.
Especially when certain characters (Sindel) kind of need a revamping. I still can't believe she still has that leg throw..

Ashrah looks really weak in her video.
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10/07/2006 06:08 AM (UTC)
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I think chamelion is like the MKT chamelion. You wait for the color and then you cast, but it did seem like the ermac shot came out really suddenly. Either way guessing from this movie and others I'm almost certain he gets all the male ninjas moves or at least a majority of them, not just one from each. I know i've seen scorps teleport.
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10/07/2006 06:15 AM (UTC)
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Eji1700 Wrote:
I think chamelion is like the MKT chamelion. You wait for the color and then you cast, but it did seem like the ermac shot came out really suddenly. Either way guessing from this movie and others I'm almost certain he gets all the male ninjas moves or at least a majority of them, not just one from each. I know i've seen scorps teleport.


You're pretty much wrong.

Chameleon only got the moves listed in previouse post. He won't have a move from Noob or Smoke. And he can do the specials at any time.

Yes he does change to a specific color when he does do a specific special as seen in the new vid of his. Although if you aren't doing any special moves he will still turn different colors throughout the fight.
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10/07/2006 06:32 AM (UTC)
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Ashrah looks, the same...Judging from other videos with tweaks to mkd's system, Ashrah will lose her free throws and her opponent will be able to roll away after being thrown...but it still juggles! Ash is not weak.
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10/07/2006 07:12 AM (UTC)
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Cyrax; I'll take your word for it, mkf, see you online. It just seems dumb that everyone else has a functional projectile and Cyrax has this dumb thing that the opponet can actually just kick away from themselves. Unless its completely unblockable and you can do some creepy zone shit with timing it perfectly from far way, I dunno.

Darrius; m2, its definately not all attacks parryable because plenty of other vids (I think one of the Kitana / Mileena ones show generic low attacks beating properly timed parries. Then again, maybe all the specials are parryable regardless of range, that'd be dumb.

Chameleon; he just changes color to whoevers move you do, meaning, do a subby move he turns blue, do ermac red, etc. He doesn't seem to cycle on his own, and it doesn't really seem to matter much.

And on the subject of Rain's lightning, if you look at his video near the end his opponent literally walks out of the way of the Lightning on reaction, so they must've slowed it down. Wether that will translate online is yet to be seen.

Did anyone else notice that Frost's ground freeze whiff? I'd have to queue up MKDA again but I don't remember it being that easily sidestepped point blank.

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10/07/2006 07:18 AM (UTC)
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Fenix, like I said, Chameleon will change colors still if you don't do any specials. I've seen it in other video's.
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10/07/2006 07:54 AM (UTC)
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Ashrah looks, the same...Judging from other videos with tweaks to mkd's system, Ashrah will lose her free throws and her opponent will be able to roll away after being thrown...but it still juggles! Ash is not weak.
yea shes looking good still. her juggle damage looks to be the same after one hit pop ups (spin, f+1 etc).


sindel poor poor poor sindel sad i am crying inside sad i dont get why they wouldnt change her god awful throw. it shows ya they still arent testing stuff indepth. so we may see new kinds of glitches.




darrius df+3 special got parried, but then mileenas roll didnt get parried. im guessing thats proof of the low and high parries. others may of had proof but thats the 1st i seen it.


Daegons Fu Jow Pai's new combos are DANCOCK approved!!

i always had an issue w/ the 1,1,13,3 combo now they made it a 1,1,3 combo grin there was also another 1,1 kick combo maybe 4? but it looks worthless!! he may still have the 1,1,1,3,3 combo but pfft fuck that when theres a nice 1,1,2,cs combo grin tongue still havent seen a fireball type of move :-/ i pray he has one and that its super fast grin not sure about using that rolling uppercut move much, it left him open for a long bit. the charging move is nice tho. his throw better be GREAT furious so ill be marching on over to midway screaming!

meat throw damage over 24% O_o yea his foe was in weapon but still O_o why have soem characters throw do 10% an others do over 20% ?? the damage should be the same for every character if you ask me.




WTF any one see Sonya do a 33% combo after the kiss move??? WTF is that shit Kira gets handcuffed w/ super lowered damage and sonya dishes out regular damage WTF furious
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10/07/2006 08:41 AM (UTC)
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Kira is a n00b that's why.
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10/07/2006 11:55 AM (UTC)
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Im bored, few words on each character.

- Ashrah

Still has the throw

New combo, 2,2,1,cs (into u+2)

- Baraka

Nothing new from the vid.

- Blaze

Cant say much about him, his kinda slow.

- Bo Rai Cho

Nothing new.

- Chameleon

Reptile dash is really fast.

- Cyrax

Teleport looks ok, not too fast...........

New combo 1,1,cs - it does 22%, maybe they fixed Ninjitsu Damage........

- Deagon

So Fu Jow Pai has a new move, a roundhouse (like Nightwolf's u+3).

Two new combos, 1,1,3 and 1,1,roundhouse.

1,1,2,cs combo

His swords are new.

His specials are weird.

A low charge move, a rolling uppercut (maybe it's mid).

- Dairou

As I said, TS is slower.

- Darrius

Same throw but now you wake up from it.

- Drhamin

New combo, 1,2,2 or something like it.

- Ermac

Nothing new

- Frost

Slide is really fast, you can juggle from the teleport.

- Fujin

Cant say much about his moves. His ground wind looks ok.

- Goro

His throw is 18%

- Hotaru

Same throw.

- Hsu Hao

New combo 1,2,cs

He has that overhead throw (why are they giving 8 people guys the same throw?)

- Jade

Her projectile is still slow, Jade looks bad...........

- Jax

New combo, 1,2,cs

- Johnny Cage

Nothing new.

- Kabal

Spin is still fast.

- Kai

Nothing new

- Kano

New charge move. New Power Up!

- Kenshi

Same throw.

- Kintaro

It's maybe a throw, maybe a new charge move but it juggles!

- Kira

Same throw.

- Kitana

Her throw sux, it's like 12%

- Kobra

Nothing new

- Kung Lao

Ok, not sure but I think he has a new 1,b+1,4 combo

His teleport, looks unsafe on block.

His throw is crap, 12%

- Li Mei

Nothing new.

- Liu Kang

Nothing new.

- Mavado

New low charge, new 1,1,pop up combo

- Meat

MEat iS C0ol!!!1

For real, meat looks good.

He did two grabs in the vid. The first is probably his wrestling throw (1), it does like 20%

His other throw might be his normal throw, it juggles, I'll doubt it will hit low.

- Mileena

Nothing new.

- Mokap

His projectile is slow.

- Moloch

Nothing new.

- Motaro

The dude is slow.

- Nightwolf

Same throw.

New 1,1,1,cs (into b+1) combo

- Nitara

New and really fast Kama combo.

- Noob Saibot

His projectile is fast.

The teleprt looks ok, we don't know what's happen on block.

His new move, (may I say wtf?) looks like it juggles (like Scorp's Spear)

Troll Hammer (may I say again wtf?) it might have the moves of the Axe.

- Onaga

Nothing new.

- Quan Chi

Nothing new.

- Raiden

New combo, 1,2,cs (into u+4)

Same throw.

- Rain

Nothing new.

- Reiko

Projectile is fast but if you sidestep the first one you can probably punish him.

Throw maybe does 16% (the opponent hit the object on the arena)

- Reptile

His ball is really fast.

His throw is 16%

- Sareena

She looks so good.

I'm so gonna play her.

- Scorpion

Nothing new.

- Shang Tsung

Nothing new

- Shao Khan

Nothing new.

- Sheeva

Her TS is so fast.

- Shinnok

Still dont know if his throw juggles.

His teleport will be so unasfe on block

- Shujinko

Nothing new.

- Sindel

Still the same throw.

New combo 1,1,cs (into 4)

- Smoke

Nothing new.

- Sonya

Nothing new.

- Sub Zero

Nothig new.

- Tanya

Nothing new

- Taven

Nothing new
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10/07/2006 11:59 AM (UTC)
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Also,

You can NOT parry low attacks.

You can see Kitana trying to parry but Mileen's 4 (a low) still hits.

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10/07/2006 06:34 PM (UTC)
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hjs-Q Wrote:
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You can NOT parry low attacks.


Yes you can...Darrius' df3 was parried...where does that hit?
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10/07/2006 07:21 PM (UTC)
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Yes you can...Darrius' df3 was parried...where does that hit?

Special moves with body can be parried.

Read Master Malone before you go smart ass on me.
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10/07/2006 09:11 PM (UTC)
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Thank god for that, low parries I was against a bit because that makes pokes virtually pointless if you ask me.My opinion.

It's not necessary, with high parries, te's and wake up in there now.

Fenix, yeah man he won't be that bad if you know how to use him.HIs moves aren't dumb if you know how to use them.


BTW, I know it wasn't in recent vids but one about a month or so ago with Kabal.Some of his hooksword combos altered a bit and now has juggle starters for air kombat.

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10/07/2006 09:52 PM (UTC)
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Is it possible there actually is a low parry? I'd imagine you would press one direction and whatever button to do high/mid parry, and press like down and whatever button to do a low parry.

I'm just saying that the Mileena and Kitana thing isn't proof that you can't parry low. Though I'm not saying that you can parry low. Maybe you can parry any special that uses their body like Darrius' df+3 no matter where it hits? Or maybe df+3 isn't low in MKA???

I'm juss sayin'....

Question: What looks so good about Sareena so far? Ba Shan Fan isn't all that great of a style is it? And I forget how good her Demon Feng is (Li Mei's sword)? But is it her specials taht are makeing her look pretty good? She does have one crazy fast projectile.
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10/07/2006 10:10 PM (UTC)
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hjs-Q Wrote:
Yes you can...Darrius' df3 was parried...where does that hit?



Special moves with body can be parried.

Read Master Malone before you go smart ass on me.


Hmm,so low special moves can be parried by the parry,but not normal low moves?

This makes no sense.
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10/07/2006 10:18 PM (UTC)
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Yes you can...Darrius' df3 was parried...where does that hit?



Special moves with body can be parried.

Read Master Malone before you go smart ass on me.
or it could be a low parry being don eon darrius and a high one being done on mileena. simmer down, not even malone knows 100% for sure. its all speculation.



mkflegend~ kabal has 2 pop up comboc in MKD hook swords. b+2 and 2,1,4. where did you see the new pop up attack? are you talking about the new cs combo that pops up?
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10/07/2006 10:26 PM (UTC)
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I couldn't see any new pop-ups for Kabal's hookswords. By the by I think Mavado's moveset will be exactly the same as Kabal's.

The likely absence of a low parry reinforces my impression that this game will be all about turtling and poking.
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10/07/2006 11:39 PM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
hjs-Q Wrote:

or it could be a low parry being don eon darrius and a high one being done on mileena.



mkflegend~ kabal has 2 pop up comboc in MKD hook swords. b+2 and 2,1,4. where did you see the new pop up attack? are you talking about the new cs combo that pops up?


That's maybe the case...........

simmer down, not even malone knows 100% for sure. its all speculation.

I would love to do that, if only I knew what "to simmer down" means lol
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10/08/2006 12:03 AM (UTC)
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I think the parry countering special low moves make sense IMO.Like the darrius move.

Reasons is because if the special move was a plant or broken that lead to FT's or infinites like in Darrius's case, you couldn't do shit.NOW you can thank god.

If the high parry works on both low and high special moves as long as there's no magic involved then hey, I'm all for that.As long as it works.

As for Liu Kang's post, well dude I can be wrong but I just think that if there was a low parry it would have been announced by now.

Don't you guys think?

But who knows, last year as malone told us they pulled a last minute move with the QR that was apparently a last minute decision for their wake up as it wasn't seen in ANY MK:D guides.

So, who knows if they decide to have the low parry in there.

If it's in there, what ever I'll use it if it's not I'll still enjoy this game regardless and believe I have enough now to help my game.



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10/08/2006 08:02 AM (UTC)
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are harakiris still in MKA? I haven't seen one in any of the videos i watched lately.
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10/08/2006 08:06 AM (UTC)
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are harakiris still in MKA? I haven't seen one in any of the videos i watched lately.
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10/08/2006 08:08 AM (UTC)
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Lunatic08 Wrote:
are harakiris still in MKA? I haven't seen one in any of the videos i watched lately.


No.
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10/08/2006 08:48 PM (UTC)
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did mokap steal scorpion backflip kick?
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10/08/2006 09:12 PM (UTC)
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did mokap steal scorpion backflip kick?


Mokap had a similar move in MKDA, where ot was also introduced to Scorpion, so I wouldn't exactly call it stealing.
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