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Windice
03/09/2015 02:22 AM (UTC)
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JaymzHetfield Wrote:
Hooky-Fooky Wrote:
NRS is afraid to step outside their Trilogy comfort zone. Even most of their new characters are descendants of Trilogy characters.


The count is half and half at this point if Erron Black is playable.


@Windice

The point is you know not of what you speak, right or wrong. It's all assumption. They may have similarities, that's undeniable. They are still providing new twists on those old takes. They aren't similar enough to write them off as not being unique at all. Cassie and Jacqui stand the biggest chance of replacing their predecessors, but considering Cassie can do a lot more than Johnny or Sonya I don't understand why you'd think that wouldn't follow through with Jacqui.


Yea I would prefer a actually new character. To me it is better to have a new character with new goals instead of a parent passing on there same goals to there child but who knows maybe one is evil but I don't think that is going to happen. It's not even about just how they play it's pretty much everything about them that make them seem like copy's. I play a lot of fighting games and it happens all the time. A person who like something about a character like there look or gameplay will most likely like someone who take takes things from that character. But yea lets just see
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diirecthit
03/09/2015 02:32 AM (UTC)
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From-ear-to-ear Wrote:
I still think Johnny/Jax/Sonya will be story tropes until proven otherwise, which would actually end a good chunk of this bitching once and for all. I mean, it's odd that the only leaks we have of them is from the story mode. They also appear rather young which wouldn't make sense if they have adult children. So the most likely explanation is that all we have of them so far is an early part in the story or a flashback.



Sonya and Jax being seen in the ladders, and Cage being confirmed playable by Adam Urbino isn't enough proof? lol.
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Windice
03/09/2015 02:35 AM (UTC)
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diirecthit Wrote:
From-ear-to-ear Wrote:
I still think Johnny/Jax/Sonya will be story tropes until proven otherwise, which would actually end a good chunk of this bitching once and for all. I mean, it's odd that the only leaks we have of them is from the story mode. They also appear rather young which wouldn't make sense if they have adult children. So the most likely explanation is that all we have of them so far is an early part in the story or a flashback.



Sonya and Jax being seen in the ladders, and Cage being confirmed playable by Adam Urbino isn't enough proof? lol.


Ed boon's trolling is making people crazy.
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03/09/2015 02:35 AM (UTC)
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TigerStyle Wrote:And Frost if you read all of this shit that ain't a knock on you.
I'll just disappear into that empty void. Farewell.
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03/09/2015 02:36 AM (UTC)
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diirecthit Wrote:
From-ear-to-ear Wrote:
I still think Johnny/Jax/Sonya will be story tropes until proven otherwise, which would actually end a good chunk of this bitching once and for all. I mean, it's odd that the only leaks we have of them is from the story mode. They also appear rather young which wouldn't make sense if they have adult children. So the most likely explanation is that all we have of them so far is an early part in the story or a flashback.



Sonya and Jax being seen in the ladders, and Cage being confirmed playable by Adam Urbino isn't enough proof? lol.


The denial in this forum ever since the Jax/Johnny/Sonya leak has been enormous.
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Spider804
03/09/2015 02:40 AM (UTC)
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I suppose Denial is better than progressing to Anger, than Bargaining, than Grief, than Acceptance.

Spoilers: (Highlight to reveal)
Ain't none of them making it past grief, tho
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03/09/2015 02:40 AM (UTC)
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Mojo6 Wrote: Oh horseshit. Yes maybe in RETROSPECT but in 1992 those "awful pallete swap ninjas" were popular as fuck and the cheesy blatant kung-fu 90's ridiculousness was part of the games charm. There's a REASON MK is culturally iconic enough to be pop knowledge to even non-video game fans. Also, the Ninjas were expanded upon and redesigned as the series advanced so it's not even an accurate context to compare Sub-Zero in 1992 to his more contemporary design.


See I like every single one of the new characters and I don't for a minute buy into that "Cassie is just like her parents" or "Jacqui is just like Jax" crap. I fundamentally disagree with that generalization. You act like you've played the fucking game already and are generalizing at a level that makes this whole conversation ridiculous.

Yes there's obvious similarities but both characters will/do act and play differently than their parents. I'm GLAD Jacqui didn't lose out to Hatoru or Cassie get bumped for Nitara. I LIKE that the series is trying to innovate and push things forward by introducing new characters and not just rehashing the same old shit except now in 1080p. Besides, there'll be more of a place for those characters in the next iteration of the MK series, whatever that's going to look like.

I really am tired of trying to convince diehards of the 3d era that all of those characters are worth salvaging just for salvaging sake. It's a circular argument because it boils down to personal preference. There's some huge shitter characters in there in my opinion and I don't buy the whole "lets just give Kai and Kobra a chance to shine guys!!!!" It's moot at this point anyway as NRS clearly has went with the creative direction in MKX to predominantly exclude 3d era characters in the main roster.




I'd rather they be in the Nile, tbh. So it can drown out the bitching.
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03/09/2015 02:42 AM (UTC)
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swerzy Wrote:
diirecthit Wrote:
From-ear-to-ear Wrote:
I still think Johnny/Jax/Sonya will be story tropes until proven otherwise, which would actually end a good chunk of this bitching once and for all. I mean, it's odd that the only leaks we have of them is from the story mode. They also appear rather young which wouldn't make sense if they have adult children. So the most likely explanation is that all we have of them so far is an early part in the story or a flashback.



Sonya and Jax being seen in the ladders, and Cage being confirmed playable by Adam Urbino isn't enough proof? lol.


The denial in this forum ever since the Jax/Johnny/Sonya leak has been enormous.


I mean it's fine if they want to deny and don't want to believe they're in and playable, but they're only setting themselves up for disappointment.
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03/09/2015 02:46 AM (UTC)
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diirecthit Wrote:
swerzy Wrote:
diirecthit Wrote:
From-ear-to-ear Wrote:
I still think Johnny/Jax/Sonya will be story tropes until proven otherwise, which would actually end a good chunk of this bitching once and for all. I mean, it's odd that the only leaks we have of them is from the story mode. They also appear rather young which wouldn't make sense if they have adult children. So the most likely explanation is that all we have of them so far is an early part in the story or a flashback.



Sonya and Jax being seen in the ladders, and Cage being confirmed playable by Adam Urbino isn't enough proof? lol.


The denial in this forum ever since the Jax/Johnny/Sonya leak has been enormous.


I mean it's fine if they want to deny and don't want to believe they're in and playable, but they're only setting themselves up for disappointment.


Exactly. It's going to be World War fucking 3 on this place when the full roster is known.
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KenshiMaster16
03/09/2015 02:48 AM (UTC)
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Jesus, this convo is still going!? wow
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Windice
03/09/2015 02:53 AM (UTC)
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Wish I could do bets Just for fun.
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03/09/2015 02:54 AM (UTC)
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KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Jesus, this convo is still going!? wow


There's no brakes on the complain train, motherfucker!!!! furiousfuriousfurious
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03/09/2015 02:54 AM (UTC)
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I'm pro-Johnny/Jax/Sonya so no denial from me. I just threw the NPC possibility out there
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03/09/2015 02:58 AM (UTC)
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swerzy Wrote:
KenshiMaster16 Wrote:
Jesus, this convo is still going!? wow


There's no brakes on the complain train, motherfucker!!!! furiousfuriousfurious


LOL You got that right. I think my complaints were, on the whole, tiny nitpicks because I'm just a perfectionist by nature but yeah, there are some pretty big extremes on the boards right now.
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Spider804
03/09/2015 03:00 AM (UTC)
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Happens everywhere lol.
I think everyone needs some brownies to calm down
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Windice
03/09/2015 03:06 AM (UTC)
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Spider804 Wrote:
Happens everywhere lol.
I think everyone needs some brownies to calm down


I'm actually curious to know what side is bigger and if nrs will do anything or if they have some suprise or something. I would love to hear what Ed boon would have to say good or bad.
Boon doesn't care if we like the trilogy characters, the 3D characters, or the MKX characters.

They're gonna do what they want either way next game whether it's a mix of them or not, and so far taking limited fan input has worked for them.
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03/09/2015 03:14 AM (UTC)
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TigerStyle Wrote:
Boon doesn't care if we like the trilogy characters, the 3D characters, or the MKX characters.

They're gonna do what they want either way next game whether it's a mix of them or not, and so far taking limited fan input has worked for them.


Ed boon has listened to fans all the way. It's one of the reasons I respect nrs
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03/09/2015 03:18 AM (UTC)
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TigerStyle Wrote:
Boon doesn't care if we like the trilogy characters, the 3D characters, or the MKX characters.

They're gonna do what they want either way next game whether it's a mix of them or not, and so far taking limited fan input has worked for them.


While this IS partially true that they will do what they want, they do have an incredibly good habit or listening to us or at least taking our concerns to heart, which is more than I can say for most developers, which is why I think voicing our opinions, approvals or complaints, is worthwhile.
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JaymzHetfield
03/09/2015 03:20 AM (UTC)
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Windice Wrote:
TigerStyle Wrote:
Boon doesn't care if we like the trilogy characters, the 3D characters, or the MKX characters.

They're gonna do what they want either way next game whether it's a mix of them or not, and so far taking limited fan input has worked for them.


Ed boon has listened to fans all the way. It's one of the reasons I respect nrs


NRS definitely does listen to fans, within limits. If they listened to their fans to the letter they wouldn't sell any games and there wouldn't be a company around to listen to them anymore. And MK fans are some of the most hypercritical fans of anything I've ever seen. They are much much quicker to complain than they are to praise. You need a thick skin to be Ed Boon.
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03/09/2015 03:21 AM (UTC)
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FUCK KILLSWITCH
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KenshiMaster16
03/09/2015 03:21 AM (UTC)
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JaymzHetfield Wrote:
Windice Wrote:
TigerStyle Wrote:
Boon doesn't care if we like the trilogy characters, the 3D characters, or the MKX characters.

They're gonna do what they want either way next game whether it's a mix of them or not, and so far taking limited fan input has worked for them.


Ed boon has listened to fans all the way. It's one of the reasons I respect nrs


NRS definitely does listen to fans, within limits. If they listened to their fans to the letter they wouldn't sell any games and there wouldn't be a company around to listen to them anymore. And MK fans are some of the most hypercritical fans of anything I've ever seen. They are much much quicker to complain than they are to praise. You need a thick skin to be Ed Boon.


Are you kidding? He takes all his frustration and channels it into his trolling. That man is just fine 100% of the time, I'm sure. Just seems like that sorta guy. lol tongue
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Windice
03/09/2015 03:22 AM (UTC)
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JaymzHetfield Wrote:
Windice Wrote:
TigerStyle Wrote:
Boon doesn't care if we like the trilogy characters, the 3D characters, or the MKX characters.

They're gonna do what they want either way next game whether it's a mix of them or not, and so far taking limited fan input has worked for them.


Ed boon has listened to fans all the way. It's one of the reasons I respect nrs


NRS definitely does listen to fans, within limits. If they listened to their fans to the letter they wouldn't sell any games and there wouldn't be a company around to listen to them anymore. And MK fans are some of the most hypercritical fans of anything I've ever seen. They are much much quicker to complain than they are to praise. You need a thick skin to be Ed Boon.


Sorry I wrote that wrong. I didn't mean everything. I think this is why so many people are kinda in denial.
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Spider804
03/09/2015 03:22 AM (UTC)
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The whole world needs to be Ed Boon, it would be a better place lol
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