Windice Wrote:
If frost was sub zero's daughter would that make her better?

From-ear-to-ear Wrote:
Let's see....Tanya was originally meant to be Kitana, they changed her colors, and replaced her fans with a boomerang, the rest of her moveset was generic as hell. Reiko was meant to be Noob and just ended up looking like en evil Johnny Cage and Fujin is basically Raiden with a different elemental power. Sure they became more fleshed out by the time Armageddon arrived but they also ran their course. So saying that the MKX noobies are lazy designs is a bit of a two-way street.

And let us not forget that many people complaining against the new brat pack would also welcome Tremor with open arms. 'Nuff said.

TigerStyle Wrote:
The problem with all of these threads is that everyone is acting like the Trilogy, 3D Era, and MKX character fanbases are all at eachother's throats or they can't appreciate the new game. Everything is being treated like it's the best or worst thing ever instead of being inbetween and people are getting worked up over nothing.

Mojo6 Wrote:

Oh horseshit. Yes maybe in RETROSPECT but in 1992 those "awful pallete swap ninjas" were popular as fuck and the cheesy blatant kung-fu 90's ridiculousness was part of the games charm. There's a REASON MK is culturally iconic enough to be pop knowledge to even non-video game fans. Also, the Ninjas were expanded upon and redesigned as the series advanced so it's not even an accurate context to compare Sub-Zero in 1992 to his more contemporary design.


See I like every single one of the new characters and I don't for a minute buy into that "Cassie is just like her parents" or "Jacqui is just like Jax" crap. I fundamentally disagree with that generalization. You act like you've played the fucking game already and are generalizing at a level that makes this whole conversation ridiculous.

Yes there's obvious similarities but both characters will/do act and play differently than their parents. I'm GLAD Jacqui didn't lose out to Hatoru or Cassie get bumped for Nitara. I LIKE that the series is trying to innovate and push things forward by introducing new characters and not just rehashing the same old shit except now in 1080p. Besides, there'll be more of a place for those characters in the next iteration of the MK series, whatever that's going to look like.

I really am tired of trying to convince diehards of the 3d era that all of those characters are worth salvaging just for salvaging sake. It's a circular argument because it boils down to personal preference. There's some huge shitter characters in there in my opinion and I don't buy the whole "lets just give Kai and Kobra a chance to shine guys!!!!" It's moot at this point anyway as NRS clearly has went with the creative direction in MKX to predominantly exclude 3d era characters in the main roster.

From-ear-to-ear Wrote:
Let's see....Tanya was originally meant to be Kitana, they changed her colors, and replaced her fans with a boomerang, the rest of her moveset was generic as hell. Reiko was meant to be Noob and just ended up looking like en evil Johnny Cage and Fujin is basically Raiden with a different elemental power. Sure they became more fleshed out by the time Armageddon arrived but they also ran their course. So saying that the MKX noobies are lazy designs is a bit of a two-way street.

And let us not forget that many people complaining against the new brat pack would also welcome Tremor with open arms. 'Nuff said.

Windice Wrote:
The new characters don't really offer anything interesting. They are just being used to replace there parents in the future. Also mk is never really original in anything. The whole kids thing it's self is a cliche.

Brady_Got_Caged Wrote:
Honestly the only 3D characters I care about are Reiko, Mavado, Havik, and Onaga. I'm just happy at least half of these guys are still in the fucking lore due to the comics. I think it'd be too fucking cool if we had one character from the 3D era just be completely changed due to Raiden messing with the timeline. Like lets just say Erron Black is what Kobra would've became in the original timeline if Kabal wouldn't have recruited his ass to the black dragon.

FROID Wrote:

umbrascitor Wrote:


This post deserves a fat cash bonus. Do you have a PayPal I can send my appreciation to? I am not even joking.

TigerStyle Wrote:
Seriously though opinions aside, it seems like people are actually getting worked up over this shit. Games are meant for fun, man. I know opinions can't easily be changed but these always get to a point where people wind up being argumentative for the sake of it.

Windice Wrote:

Give me something special about the characters. Show me the error of my ways please

Windice Wrote:
Give me something special about the characters. Show me the error of my ways please

JaymzHetfield Wrote:


You've seen gameplay of approximately none of those characters. You have no basis for saying they're too similar aside from basic design, and even that is a stretch. No character has had a bow and arrow in MK before (crossbows don't count), we have no idea what Jacqui is actually capable of, and Takeda has Omega Red/Whiplash-like whips coming from his arms. The ones we actually do have some sort of idea about are nothing like their parents and are new traits to the series.

Windice Wrote:
Yet I have seen Cassie.......... Cassie has Johnny personality sonya look and Johnny abilities used in a differnt way. If they are anything like Cassie well there u go. Also like someone else said Kung Jin looks like he will be like green arrow just like reptile borrowed the flash move

JaymzHetfield Wrote:


She has the nut punch and a couple green glow moves but otherwise she's very different. She has 3 moves similar to Johnny and the rest are not like either Johnny or Sonya. Kung Jin may be like Green Arrow, we don't know yet. Either way it's new to MK, and he's clearly nothing like Kung Lao. Takeda is also obviously nothing like Kenshi or Scorpion. This is not like a Kira situation. They are bringing new things to the table. Not one of them is a suitable "replacement" for their predecessor. Though I would bet Sonya or Johnny or both will not make it through MKX, hence why Cassie is so similar to them. As for their designs, that remains to be seen, they might have a look you like. More skins than MK9 after all. Either way I gave you something special.

Hooky-Fooky Wrote:
NRS is afraid to step outside their Trilogy comfort zone. Even most of their new characters are descendants of Trilogy characters.

JaymzHetfield Wrote:


The count is half and half at this point if Erron Black is playable.

Mojo6 Wrote:


Shhhhh...don't use actual facts when making points on MKO, it's against the rules. Better to spout of unsubstantiated opinion.

Mojo6 Wrote:

Oh horseshit. Yes maybe in RETROSPECT but in 1992 those "awful pallete swap ninjas" were popular as fuck and the cheesy blatant kung-fu 90's ridiculousness was part of the games charm. There's a REASON MK is culturally iconic enough to be pop knowledge to even non-video game fans. Also, the Ninjas were expanded upon and redesigned as the series advanced so it's not even an accurate context to compare Sub-Zero in 1992 to his more contemporary design.


See I like every single one of the new characters and I don't for a minute buy into that "Cassie is just like her parents" or "Jacqui is just like Jax" crap. I fundamentally disagree with that generalization. You act like you've played the fucking game already and are generalizing at a level that makes this whole conversation ridiculous.

Yes there's obvious similarities but both characters will/do act and play differently than their parents. I'm GLAD Jacqui didn't lose out to Hatoru or Cassie get bumped for Nitara. I LIKE that the series is trying to innovate and push things forward by introducing new characters and not just rehashing the same old shit except now in 1080p. Besides, there'll be more of a place for those characters in the next iteration of the MK series, whatever that's going to look like.

I really am tired of trying to convince diehards of the 3d era that all of those characters are worth salvaging just for salvaging sake. It's a circular argument because it boils down to personal preference. There's some huge shitter characters in there in my opinion and I don't buy the whole "lets just give Kai and Kobra a chance to shine guys!!!!" It's moot at this point anyway as NRS clearly has went with the creative direction in MKX to predominantly exclude 3d era characters in the main roster.