Fujin? I say he should bring back his crossbow and his fatalities involving the weapon from MK4. Otherwise, replace him with a female character who'd posses the wind power. I find that a Goddess should have his powers and not him. I feel that the power of the wind to be sort of feminine. I don't know why but it is.

hahaha the power of wind is feminine. lol uhh i dont think powers go by what sex you are. i mean wonder woman has super strength, and thats not normal for a woman to have. oh and i didnt know that fujin was not an elder god.

I mean, wind would fit a woman more because it would make her hair and dress flow in the air as she floats. You can also add loose long sleeves on the dress like Mileena's primary outfit and have those flowing as well. You get the picture. Look at Storm from X-Men, the wind powers match her more than Fujin.

strom is a more developed character too but that's another story. i see what you are talking about though!!

I'm a big Fujin fan, I think he deserves screentime, a chance to actually BE the Protector of Earthrealm now that that's his rank. I was legitimately pissed off he wasn't in either Deadly Alliance or Deception. It's probably the biggest flaw I have with both of those games, even though they're my two favorites in the series.

He just really needs his goddamn crossbow back, or at least the ability to create an energy one as a projectile, like Nightwolf's bow, because his moves are boring without it.

And XD already covered my thoughts on his personality. I look at his face and he always has this sorta grumpy expression, and the first thing that comes to mind is "I bet that guy's a bitter, sarcastic asshole", I don't know why. Fujin as the Gregory House of the gods just seems right to me.

Wait a minute Razor, did you just say that your favorite MK games for the ENTIRE series were MK:DA and MK:D?

Wow... That's quite possibly the most "out of left field" statement I've heard someone make on these boards in some time.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not AT ALL faulting you for having that opinion. Maybe I've never thought to ask people what their favorite or least favorite games are in the series.

Who knows, maybe I'm a bit out there for thinking that MK3 has been the worst game in the series so far.

Too each, his own, I guess!!

Yes, I did just say that. I don't know how this is the first time you're hearing it because I say it all the time. I love MK5 and 6. I don't so much love "the classics".

The story is richer in those games than anywhere else in the series, there's more text, more detail, more exposition and elaboration. Compared to the 2D games, where all you have is bios and endings, the DA and Deception Konquest modes are like jumping from the shallow end of the pool right into the diving area.

Also, the 2D games didn't have alt costumes and concept art galleries. I like that stuff a lot.
I still remember buying and playing Deadly Alliance for the first time as one of the happiest moments of my life. To go from the glitchy disappointments of MK4, have to wait years and years...and then the franchise doesn't just come back, it has like the most elaborate presentation I'd ever seen. There's a FMV opening cinema, a demo mode with bios interspersed like the old games had, AND the characters do katas...you press start and the menu's not just a stack of buttons, it's this hallway with burning torches and you woosh around and open doors and weird shit like that to select the mode...in the extra content, there's a fucking music video and documentary films! The training mode is different for each character and as long as TEN bios, it tells you shit like where the character learned their fighting style, every little detail of everything they've done since, in some cases, MK THREE...
Owning Deadly Alliance is like owning the Extended Edition of Lord of the Fuckin' Rings. There's so much god damned STUFF.
Sure, some of this stuff is standard for all video games now, like the way menus are done all elaborate and animated...but it blew my fucking mind back then.

That's what I want Mortal Kombat to be. It's what I now expect Mortal Kombat to be. They set the bar so high that by giving us JUST a fighting game with Armageddon and MKvsDCU, I couldn't help but think they were being lazy and stiffing us out of stuff we're owed.

iv NEVER seen a person judge a FIGHTING game on how much they liked the story, but everyone has their own opinion. not trying to start anything!!!! lol

i can't say i like Fujin but I can not say i don't like him either...he should probably stay for story reasons but he seems like a mediocre character to me. i think he needs new moves or something. if he was not suppose to be the earth realm protector i would say gone...but they need to stick to the story and play it through so i think he should stay.

fujin should stay. he is a badass god and for some reason i like him more than raiden. maybe it's his looks or his moves. i loved playing as him in mk4 but in mka he lacked in some areas. i'd love to see him take on dark raiden. maybe have quan chi assist dark raiden for his own pupose. then try to betray him.

I liked in Mythologies, Mortal Kombat 4, and Armageddon. I think he should come back. Cool character with good moves, styles, and story.

I never really played the MK4 saga much, so maybe I missed out on the Fujin craze, but from afar, he seems like a really weak character. In design, he's very bland. Even in the story, he's essentially "Raiden's replacement" and is such a passive entity.

For some reason, I get the feeling the MK Team are not too big on the character. After MK4, in what should have been a given slot for him, Fujin did not return, and protecting Earthrealm was once again the chore of Raiden. What was Fujin doing? Nothing to warrant mention in the story, that's what.

If he were to return, I'd like to see him with a much grander look. I think they were going with something humble for Fujin, but the dude is a god -- his wisdom can be great while his costume flamboyant. He needs something to set him apart. I'd also like to see some actual personality for him. I've seen a few good ideas for him. I don't like the idea that Fujin should be feuding with Raiden right out the gate or something. This is Mortal Kombat; not Immortal Kombat. I'd like to see Fujin guide some Earthrealm warriors, and maybe even look at Raiden's actions, and wonder if there is something to value in them. So far, Fujin has seemed like a follower, so I think there should be some curve for him to overcome in becoming a proper leader.

Fujin returning could be very, very cool, don't get me wrong. For his popularity levels, I also think he is one of the most underused characters in the entire MK saga. Perhaps even the most underexposed. But my personal wishes would be to cut down on having gods everywhere. I'd personally like to see Fujin replace Raiden as an Elder God, and move forward with the story.

I would like him back. He got that old asian mythology feel that MK had back in the days. Furthermore I like his story as Raiden's successor. If MK plans a new beginning he would fit just fine.

What the hell I don't come on for a week and I miss 5 fucking chracters.

Since i can't catch up with the characters I'm not gonna waste my time trying to say how I feel about them all :/

Anyways FUJIN I freakin love this character. Everything his looks to his style. Just awesome. BUT where has he been! He came back in armaggedon which was great but me personally not the best game to back for. Even if it was supposed to bring back EVERY fighter back.

But MK9 is his chance to shine. Raiden has gone complete apeshit and is using Lui Kang as his pawn. They were the origanal heroes of the series. With them gone who's gonna fit there place? I'll tell you who FUJIN!

He can fill in his place as the heroic god. And for Lui Kang Kung Lao will fill his place. This is ME personally who i think should be the new leader of Edenia. And Fujin is seriously the only fighter i think that's reasonable to take on Raiden. Fujins a god and so is Raiden. PERFECT MATCH.

Ok I'm getting too off topic overall i think he should stay as the new heroic god to fill Raidens place.

VERDICT: STAY

Chalk me up as another Fujin fan, but I definitely agree that he needs a serious personality infusion of some kind. Getting a joke character almost identical in appearance to Fujin in Deception (Hotaru) without actually having him playable was a major disappointment. I totally forgot that he originally had a crossbow as a weapon, but man, that would have been so much more preferable to his tree branch in MKA. Giving him something more streamlined like Rinoa's wrist bow in FF8 would have been even better. Though, he has GOT to get some better-looking special moves (too bad Raiden stole the Torpedo).

BUT as much as I like Fujin as a character, I think he is a damper on any urgency present in the storyline, as far as Earth is concerned. Having a back-up Protector of Earth in case Raiden goes off the deep end just makes already ineffectual characters like the Special Forces members even MORE pointless and impotent in the grand scheme of things and you lose the "last line of defense" atmosphere that is so important to just about every MK game. The reason we probably haven't seen so much of Fujin lately is that the creators seem to know this, as evidenced by all the instances of Raiden being forced to give up his immortality or being sidelined altogether throughout the series.

I feel like Fujin would have made a more appropriate fit as Protector of Edenia rather than Earth. As cool as they are, introducing the existence of other Earth gods in MK:M was a bad move; it would have been a much better idea to instead have one Protector for each realm. The fact that for awhile only Earth seemed to have any gods also introduced the lame idea that they can also travel willy-nilly between realms like Seido and Earth without any restrictions or consequences, further sidelining the mortal heroes of all the realms. There are some good things to say about Mortal Kombat 4 and MK: Mythologies, but the shift of focus from Mortal to Immortal Kombat was one of the more damaging ones to the series from that point on in making former star characters like Sonya and Kitana just seem downright irrelevant (a situation they still have yet to recover from). And the concept that a battle between only one god and Elder God can snuff out virtually all life on Earth is Superman levels of ridiculous and just makes it that much harder to have these characters fit reasonably into a fighting game series.

I think the right plot could make Fujin work, but it would almost invariably include making him spend some time as a mortal. This could definitely work with the whole "cantankerous snob" persona.

Damn I wish MK had some better in-game characterization. They really need to hire somebody whose sole job is to breathe life into the cutscenes.

Anyway, my verdict is STAY, but only with some serious alterations.

Hell yeah he should stay. He is one of the most iconic characters from MK. I say he stays by far, but I would also want him to be a playable character.

Goro is bad ass. I say keep him around!

Gone.

Goro is a sad example of how misplaced nostalgia can totally sabotage an otherwise good character. He got nice, solid, and fitting closure in Deadly Alliance...then they go a drag him back to life with a ludicrous storyline that completely ruined him. And why? Because he's an "icon" and everyone loves a fucking icon, right? Makes me sick.

So storywise, Goro's fucked. Is there a need to bring him back for gameplay purposes? He's an overpowered sub-boss. Doesn't exactly contribute to balanced gameplay. And even if they want a playable sub-boss character...why not use someone who hasn't been reduced to a pathetic joke? Do they make a him a sub-boss again? Wait...what year is it? Oh that's right, 2010....not 1992.

Poor Goro should've stayed dead after Deadly Alliance. The more they bring him back, the more they piss all over his legacy.

Go.

i say have goro never come back. he is a really cheap character. plus i'd rather have kintaro instead, he's bigger and badder.

None of this has anything to do with gameplay.

I'm trying to remember the last time I disagreed with you, but it seems as though it's been a while.

I mean really? You guys want Goro back? For what? Because he's a big claymation cartoony looking dude in a speedo?

I'll say this, I liked Goro and Kintaro back in the day, but were they really integral to the plot past the games they were sub bosses in? I'd say no. So then what's the point of having any of them come back? Goro, Kintaro, Motaro, Moloch etc... They're all just big, dumb monsters.

See, that's the difference between the sub bosses and all of the normal characters. The sole purpose of a sub boss is to simply provide a big character to beat before the boss. That's it. That's their entire function. They're not even characters really, they're just a stepping stone on the way to the top.

Because of that, I'd say new game, new sub boss. I'd personally prefer that it wasn't a half human/dragon, a centaur, an oni, a unicorn, a giant, a lizard man, a half donkey half dove, or any other lame monster, but a human character that's not playable until the following game. Someone that's freakin awesome, that has fantastic moves and poses a tough challenge. Someone you'll click on immediately when the following game comes out, just so you can finally have the pleasure of kicking ass with that character.

But yeah, no more monsters, unless of course it's ZEBRON.

VERDICT: GONE, he was great back in the day, but his day is over.

Damn, I missed a lot of significant characters... mostly. I'll try to keep this short.

Ermac: Stay! Dear all that is holy, let Ermac stay! Although not my favorite, he easily takes the trophy for most developed and fleshed out character since MK3. Ermac is a gem of the mk story. I am just so ridiculously gay for this character.

Frost: Gone. Frost is one of those parts of MK which I'd like to bury in the desert and never speak of again. A female apprentice of Subzero isn't a terrible idea in itself, but the design was so blatantly a cross reference that the attempt fell flat on it's face.

Fujin: Another underrated character, though his design needs a little adjustment. Not necessarily a change, but a more characteristic look. His MKA alt was rather impressive, so that's a working template. Nothing would rock my world more if they tied Fujin into Smoke's storyline, particularly as an explanation for Smoke's ability.

Goro: Unlike the above, Goro is overrated. He's justifiably nostalgic, and therefore he'll probably never go away for too long. All that said, I actually don't mind him. If he's balanced and plays well (and they get rid of those disgusting warts) I might enjoy another run with Goro... but, not at the cost of a perfectly good roster slot. Sorry. Gone.

I think we can still have Shokan and Centaurs without them necessarily being Goro or Motaro. I was personally pretty impressed with how well Sheeva meshed as a playable character in MK3, although I think I may be in the distinct minority in being a fan of that character. I also DISagree that the sub-boss characters should be one-dimensional goons. Though it was probably a bad idea bringing Goro back to drive the point home, I appreciated the effort to flesh out the Shokan as three-dimensional beings with their own interests and code of ethics rather than pay lip-service to some shady notion that you're proportionally as brutish and evil as you look inhuman. I wouldn't object at all to seeing a brand new playable Shokan, as long as he or she was relevant to the storyline.

Goro himself has the personality of a rock, though, and has run his course. I vote GONE. Bring in some new blood.

Goro was doing okay for a while when he was at peace with Kung Lao and working with Kitana in MKDA, but then he met with Kahn in MKD and was like "I is Evilz again!1!1!! He@r meh RAWR!!1!"

Now he's only one notch above Kintaro in story, but only because Kintaro never fucking learned how to talk.