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11/09/2007 01:34 AM (UTC)
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so, is onaga likely to return? if he did i suppose his story would involve li mei
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11/09/2007 01:46 AM (UTC)
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Thats cool. Im not trying to bring back the whole MK list, I am glad some characters have died. I just happen to be a fan of nightwolf. Is long as quan chi and shang have died I think there is enough room for another sourcerer.

Another question though. Whatever happened to scorpion protecting sub-zero? He started protecting him after he figured out that he wasnt the sub-zero that killed him, but after two or three games they started a rivalry up. He was supposed to protect him because sub-zero changed his ways and was remorseful to a fighter he defeated which wasnt like the original sub-zero.
colt1107 Wrote:
Thats cool. Im not trying to bring back the whole MK list, I am glad some characters have died. I just happen to be a fan of nightwolf. Is long as quan chi and shang have died I think there is enough room for another sourcerer.

Another question though. Whatever happened to scorpion protecting sub-zero? He started protecting him after he figured out that he wasnt the sub-zero that killed him, but after two or three games they started a rivalry up. He was supposed to protect him because sub-zero changed his ways and was remorseful to a fighter he defeated which wasnt like the original sub-zero.
It was retconned in MK4. No, seriously, they retconned that, Johnny's death and any chance for Smoke to become human. Oh, and they resurrect Baraka by means of a giant stapler.
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11/09/2007 02:44 AM (UTC)
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Well that was F**king retarded. I was liking that storyline.
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11/09/2007 02:55 AM (UTC)
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latvia101 Wrote:
so, is onaga likely to return? if he did i suppose his story would involve li mei


Once we get out all of the bios for the unlockable characters, we will explain the outcomes of all 63 characters in MKA.

colt1107 Wrote:
Thats cool. Im not trying to bring back the whole MK list, I am glad some characters have died. I just happen to be a fan of nightwolf. Is long as quan chi and shang have died I think there is enough room for another sourcerer.

Another question though. Whatever happened to scorpion protecting sub-zero? He started protecting him after he figured out that he wasnt the sub-zero that killed him, but after two or three games they started a rivalry up. He was supposed to protect him because sub-zero changed his ways and was remorseful to a fighter he defeated which wasnt like the original sub-zero.


Scorpion's story is definitely one of the most fucked up stories in MK. People such as myself divide his story into two categories: pre-retcon and post-retcon. Pre-retcon is the one that is usually viewed as the better of the two while his post-retcon story is usually viewed as absolute garbage. I'm going to explain it to you, but it will be a long read. However, it will clear things up for you. I'm going to break it down like this:

Pre-retcon storyline

In the pre-retcon storyline, Scorpion was gradually getting out of the revenge path and showing that deep down, he's really a noble guy. In MK1, he's after the older Sub-Zero, angry at him for killing him mercilessly and believing that he also mercilessly killed his family and clan. He kills the older Sub-Zero in MK1 and returns to the Netherrealm.

Not too long after, he somehow learns of Sub-Zero's return and is puzzled by that. He is allowed to leave the Netherrealm in order to stalk Sub-Zero. Scorpion tracks Sub-Zero down to Outworld and also takes part in Shao Kahn's tournament. During the tournament, Scorpion sees that Sub-Zero spares the life of his opponent. Scorpion is confused by this and realizes that this can't be the same Sub-Zero that he killed since this one has a sense of mercy.

He somehow learns that this Sub-Zero is actually the younger brother of the Sub-Zero he killed. Feeling a sense of guilt and shame, Scorpion secretly vows to protect the younger Sub-Zero, making sure he doesn't follow the same path the older Sub-Zero did. Unfortunately for Scorpion, he is pulled back into the Netherrealm. It is uncertain whether or not Scorpion and Sub-Zero actually fought each other in MK2. Although Sub-Zero's MK2 ending mentions them fighting, it's not certain whether or not that part can be taken as canon since Sub-Zero's ending is non canon except for the backstory part.

The MK2 comic done by John Tobias, former lead story writer of the MK games, has a different story for Scorpion. In the MK2 comic, Scorpion already knows the identity of this new Sub-Zero and is already protecting him. This occurs when Reptile tries to attack Sub-Zero but is stopped by Scorpion.

In MK3, Shao Kahn tries to take souls from the Netherrealm, but he fails to do so. In his failed attempt, Scorpion is freed from the Netherrealm, and he wanders the partially merged Earthrealm. Initially, he's a wild card, so he takes no sides. His ending indicates that he is eventually enlisted by Shao Kahn to hunt down and kill the Chosen Warriors. However, Scorpion learns that Sub-Zero is one of the Chosen Warriors and remembers his vow to protect him. Scorpion turns on Shao Kahn and in a way, helps save Earthrealm.

So overall, Scorpion goes from a revenge-driven character to more of an anti-hero. We get character growth and insight, especially when we get to his MKM: SZ story, which takes place before MK1's timeline. It mentions how he joined the Shirai Ryu in order to provide a comfortable living for his wife and son. This really shows depth to his character as well as his sense of nobility. This Scorpion is much better due to the depth and dynamic to his character. Unfortunately, this all goes to waste later on.....

Post-retcon storyline

It's kind of unclear as to when his post-retcon storyline started, whether it was in MK4 or MKDA, namely because his MKDA bio kind of supports an idea in relation to his MK4 storyline. It is likely that the media portrayals of Scorpion (e.g. movies and TV shows) somehow had an influence in the creation of this new Scorpion.

In MK4, it is revealed that Scorpion is in the Netherrealm again, probably returning to it after Shao Kahn's defeat at the end of MK3. Quan Chi makes Scorpion an offer, namely that if Scorpion agrees to aid him and Shinnok, he will be granted freedom from the Netherrealm. Scorpion does agree to aid Quan Chi and Shinnok, but he does so under ulterior motives. As revealed in his MK4 ending, which did become canon, Scorpion's ulterior motive was to go after Sub-Zero, who he blames killed his family and clan.

Unfortunately, this is very confusing since Scorpion had blamed the older Sub-Zero for the exact same thing. Also, why would Scorpion blame the younger Sub-Zero when he knows that this Sub-Zero is merciful and honorable? Some say that the older Sub-Zero was originally intended to be brought back in MK4 and that this ending was done before the Sub-Zero in MK4 was decided to be the younger one.

However, that doesn't quite make sense as his revival would have to be explained and all that. More people believe that Quan Chi tricked Scorpion, making him believe that Sub-Zero was responsible for the death of his family and clan, either instead of the older Sub-Zero or along with the older Sub-Zero and the other Lin Kuei. However, this doesn't make sense either as Scorpion already had intentions for going after Sub-Zero. So what really is the reason behind Scorpion going after the younger Sub-Zero when he vowed to protect him? Well, despite Scorpion's UMK3/MKT ending supporting the little bit in his MK2 ending with the vow, it seems that it either was non-canon or became non-canon.

Then we have what leads to his MKDA story, in which it explains that for many years, Scorpion had been after Sub-Zero, believing him to be the one responsible for the death of Scorpion's family and clan. This was until Quan Chi revealed that he was the true killer, right before trying to send Scorpion to the 5th plane of the Netherrealm. Scorpion rushes over and takes Quan Chi with him.

Ever since then, Scorpion's powers have been growing while Quan Chi's have been weakening. This is due to them being in a much lower plane of the Netherrealm, where sorcerers and beings of magic are weakened and must find a Soul Stone to replenish their power. Scorpion is eventually founded by Shujinko, who wants to help him look for Quan Chi. In return, Scorpion trains Shujinko.

Scorpion eventually finds Quan Chi and tracks him down to Outworld, where they fight in the Acid Bath, which is Shang Tsung's home. Quan Chi uses his Rising Star to knock Scorpion into the moat of acid. However Scorpion manages to get back and pursue Quan Chi is uncertain. If Scorpion did "die", it looks bad, because it makes it seem like there is no consequence of death in MK, especially with Scorpion.

Hastily, Scorpion goes to Shang Tsung's Palace and sneaks in the lower level to hunt for Quan Chi. However, Scorpion is ambushed by Drahmin and Moloch, who overpower him and throw him into the Soulnado. Scorpion manages to escape into the Void, where he meets the Elder Gods.

Before I get into his MKD story, I want to go back to what his MKDA bio states, namely about him being after Sub-Zero for many years. Not only is this said, but in one of Sub-Zero's MKDA Konquest missions, it states that many years ago, Quan Chi framed Sub-Zero's brother (the older Sub-Zero) for the death of Scorpion's family and clan, which enraged the ninja specter. Also, given MK: Shaolin Monks' horrid storyline and how Scorpion and Sub-Zero interact, I personally came to the conclusion that Scorpion had been hunting both Sub-Zero brothers the whole fucking time. I'm talking about since MK1, Scorpion's story had been nothing more than about revenge.

There are two conclusions to draw from what Scorpion's storyline had been changed into.

Either Scorpion simply associated the younger Sub-Zero with his brother and the other Lin Kuei or Scorpion only knows of one Sub-Zero and has been after the younger Sub-Zero for many years, thinking that he's the older Sub-Zero.

The first conclusion makes him very ignorant as he'd be unaware of Sub-Zero's sense of mercy and compassion. The second conclusion makes him out to be an idiot, because he wasted his time on just revenge, with nothing else to his story.

In MK: Shaolin Monks, which is regarded as canon by the MK team, Scorpion seems to be sided with the bad guys and seems to be a villain. Instead of killing the older Sub-Zero during Shang Tsung's tournament, he kills him sometime after. Later on, Scorpion wants to kill Liu Kang and Kung Lao, for no explained reason. There's extremely little interaction shown between Sub-Zero and Scorpion and is just about nothing. He really comes off as an asshole. He is defeated by Liu Kang and Kung Lao in the Netherrealm, and the bits of his MK2 story are put to waste.

Then we have his MKD story, which takes place just after the end of MKDA's story. Scorpion is made into the Champion of the Elder Gods in order to stop Onaga. If he is successful, his clan will be revived. Whether his family was mentioned or whether or not his family is considered as part of the clan, that's uncertain. Either way, Scorpion did not directly kill Onaga and therefore, he kind of half-assed his task.

For this, the Elder Gods bring back his fellow Shirai Ninja as specters like he is. Somehow, Scorpion becomes the new leader of the Shirai Ryu, which is strange since you'd think the Jonin (leader) of the Shirai Ryu would have been brought back as a specter too. Pissed off, Scorpion wants revenge on the Elder Gods, and he plans to get that revenge by killing Taven and Daegon, even if that would lead to the end of the realms.

So as you can see, post-retcon Scorpion is simply a redundant, 1-dimensional, idiotic jackass who goes around looking for trouble. He has no real depth whatsoever, no substance to his character, nothing good. All that's left are his gimmicks, which still unfortunately wow many MK fans. As someone who used to be a fan of Scorpion, I'm enraged as to how badly Scorpion's story and character have been damaged, pretty much to the point where he becomes FUBAR (fucked up beyond all repair). It's really quite sad that one of MK's poster boys and a big fan favorite has been degraded into nothing more than a cheap and shallow gimmick.

However, with our story, we plan to fix all of this nonsense and actually make Scorpion into something worthwhile again. I'm sorry that this is such a long read, but I think it's important for you and others to know about this, especially to Scorpion fans.
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11/09/2007 03:09 AM (UTC)
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He is my favorite fighter. I hope you change him well, although midway will probably fuck him over again. I think he needs to stay an anti-hero, protect sub-zero, have nobility, yet keep his blind rage all at the same time. It would be hard to see a Scorpion that wasnt pissed off at the world. He still needs his darkness and mystery. It is time to make him the true bad ass he once was.

I applaud you for your time and effort for this site. Its awesome what you and paragon have done. And thanks for giving me the answers to my questions. Thats pretty cool
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latvia101
11/10/2007 12:06 AM (UTC)
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i concur with colt1107(above)
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11/10/2007 03:30 PM (UTC)
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colt1107 Wrote:
He is my favorite fighter. I hope you change him well, although midway will probably fuck him over again. I think he needs to stay an anti-hero, protect sub-zero, have nobility, yet keep his blind rage all at the same time. It would be hard to see a Scorpion that wasnt pissed off at the world. He still needs his darkness and mystery. It is time to make him the true bad ass he once was.

I applaud you for your time and effort for this site. Its awesome what you and paragon have done. And thanks for giving me the answers to my questions. Thats pretty cool


We will do our best with. We're actually continuing his story off from the horrid way it is now and progress it into something better.

Thanks for your comments. They are appreciated. What are your thoughts on the other characters? I'd like as much constructive feedback as possible from all the readers.
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latvia101
11/10/2007 09:46 PM (UTC)
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are characters from chaosrealm who defy chaos a possibility?
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11/10/2007 10:37 PM (UTC)
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latvia101 Wrote:
are characters from chaosrealm who defy chaos a possibility?


I doubt it. To the people of Chaosrealm, chaos is naturalness and order is disgusting to them. Having Chaosrealm natives be against chaos goes against their nature.

Btw, it'd be nice to see your feedback on our bios. Let us know what you think about the other characters that we've done so far.
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11/11/2007 12:36 AM (UTC)
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Elena: she's a nice change from the ninja oriented characters in the edenian armed forces

Takako: i like the idea of a new orderrealm character

Anbar: adding anbar mixes things up in a good way

Kaosu: i'm glad we're introducing a new chaosrealm character in mk8

Mercurus: i like his story as well

Pandora: wow! how weak is that to have to survive in that place, i like her potential as a character

Drake: brutal and vicious, the perfect addition

Androna: sweet a new cyborg, pulse axe is awesome!

Fujin: the best choice as protector of earthrealm, i'm glad to see him return and i hope we get to see a raiden/fujin showdown

Havik: back and better than ever

Scorpion: i like the idea of changing scorpion for the better but i worry that he will be made "too good"

Reiko: i'm glad to see a new ruler of outworld

Abraxis: great new character

Ermac: my favorite so far, i like his moves

Li Mei: i'm still pondering the onaga connection with her

Nitara: nice to see her return i think she has potential

Sareena: its nice to see her change for the better

Sub-Zero: i like his story so far, he's better than he was before

Kira: i like her story i look forward to seeing her in action

Dairou: dairou is another one would put in my top 10


good job on all the characters so far i hope to see more soon





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11/11/2007 01:49 AM (UTC)
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I'm glad to see your feedback on the different characters. What do you think we could do to improve them?

Regarding Scorpion, we're not going to try to make him into his "goody goody" type character. However, we are definitely going to take him away from the whole idiotic, trouble-making jerk that his post-retcon self is.

As for Li Mei, the connection to Onaga has to do with her storyline at the end of MKDA. She won the tournament in Outworld that the Deadly Alliance held for her to compete in. She believed that by winning the tournament, her people would be freed. Unfortunately for her, that was of course not to be.

Shang Tsung took her soul and tried placing it in the body of one of Onaga's mummified soldiers. Bo' Rai Cho intervened and Li Mei's soul somehow got back into her own body. Bo' Rai Cho took Li Mei to safety while Kung Lao and the others fight the Deadly Alliance and their Tarkatan forces.

Although Li Mei had been saved, Onaga had returned, and during the short time that her soul had been in that mummified body, it had become tainted with evil. So with MKD and I'm sure even MKA, she has become a bit colder and has to struggle with the darkness in her soul, trying not to give into it. Even with Onaga dead, we still want Li Mei to still have that struggle and have it be a key element in her story, making her a bit of a loose cannon in a way.

Anyway, we plan to get the next bio up within a couple of days or so. Stay tuned!
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11/11/2007 06:23 AM (UTC)
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Im with lat on all the bios man. Good work. I do wonder if there are too many females in there. The gals havent ever become a big hit. I kno they are a neccessity tho.
Pi Gua was the first fighting style I mastered and happens to be my favorite. Which fighter will obtain it?
Have you thought about ground game? Like brazilian ju jitsu? Submissions, and bone breaks(where a fighter couldnt use a specific limb that was broken)(stops sum combos). It might be too much, but I think it would be interesting, and also a replacement for airfighting.
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11/11/2007 07:15 AM (UTC)
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theres a new mk
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colt1107 Wrote:
Im with lat on all the bios man. Good work. I do wonder if there are too many females in there. The gals havent ever become a big hit. I kno they are a neccessity tho.
Pi Gua was the first fighting style I mastered and happens to be my favorite. Which fighter will obtain it?
Have you thought about ground game? Like brazilian ju jitsu? Submissions, and bone breaks(where a fighter couldnt use a specific limb that was broken)(stops sum combos). It might be too much, but I think it would be interesting, and also a replacement for airfighting.


Hey there. I'm glad you like the bios. Are there any suggestions you have to help make any of the characters better? Which of the new characters is your favorite so far?

Regarding gameplay issues such as a ground game (e.g. submissions), well, we've really been focusing much more on the characters and the story. However, we do plan on coming up with various gameplay mechanic ideas to share later on.

Not all of the characters use martial arts styles that use ground fighting techniques in the kind of way that BJJ uses, so what we would likely do is give some kind of universal ground defense system but possibly make it somewhat specific to each character depending on their style or something.

While we aren't likely going to give someone Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu as a fighting style, we do plan on giving Vale Tudo to Anbar later on, which is influenced by BJJ. We're not likely going to have limb damage and all that, but maybe in the future. I'm not sure about the air fighting. We're definitely not going with MKA's air fighting system, that's for sure.

As for Pi Gua, that's Li Mei's secondary style in this installment. It's a style that she's probably going to keep throughout the series. I personally like it on her, hence why I picked it.

Please keep the questions coming. We will try to answer them as best as possible. Be sure to stay tuned for more! The next bio will be up in due time.

dark_raiden_rules Wrote:
theres a new mk


Yes, we know that. This is our fanfiction idea.
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latvia101
11/11/2007 09:41 PM (UTC)
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what about Jeet Kune Do and Jun Fan?
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11/11/2007 10:14 PM (UTC)
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latvia101 Wrote:
what about Jeet Kune Do and Jun Fan?


None of our characters use Jun Fan, but maybe we'll give that to someone along the way. You'll just have to wait and see. There are definitely martial arts styles we put in that not many have heard of before.

As for Jeet Kune Do, it's a very tricky subject matter. My stance on Jeet Kune Do is that it's a martial philosophy that contains a set of guidelines meant to help each person rediscover his/her own individuality. It's not meant to be a style or a system even though there are perhaps some particular techniques that are associated with it (e.g. lead straight, one-inch punch).

So overall, no, we're not really going to put in Jeet Kune Do as a "fighting style", because it's not really a "fighting style". In a way, all of the characters are capable of using Jeet Kune Do, but that gets into an even more complicated discussion.
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11/11/2007 10:29 PM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
latvia101 Wrote:
what about Jeet Kune Do and Jun Fan?


None of our characters use Jun Fan, but maybe we'll give that to someone along the way. You'll just have to wait and see. There are definitely martial arts styles we put in that not many have heard of before.

As for Jeet Kune Do, it's a very tricky subject matter. My stance on Jeet Kune Do is that it's a martial philosophy that contains a set of guidelines meant to help each person rediscover his/her own individuality. It's not meant to be a style or a system even though there are perhaps some particular techniques that are associated with it (e.g. lead straight, one-inch punch).

So overall, no, we're not really going to put in Jeet Kune Do as a "fighting style", because it's not really a "fighting style". In a way, all of the characters are capable of using Jeet Kune Do, but that gets into an even more complicated discussion.


so you are well versed in Jeet Kune Dosmile
now you know why i was confused when they gave it to johnny cage in mkda

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11/12/2007 12:52 AM (UTC)
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Uh, I didn't even know you were confused about that...Have you studied Jeet Kune Do concepts or something?


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Well everyone, here's the next character:


Taven

Origin: Edenia

Alignment: Good

Status: Protector God of Edenia

Fighting Styles: Jinlongquan, Drakeswords

Jinlongquan: Jinlongquan (Gold Dragon Fist) is a martial art taught to Taven by his father, Argus. This is a no-nonsense, close quarters style that uses hand techniques more than leg techniques. Using a high, mobile stance, Taven delivers palm, fist, elbow, and claw strikes with grabs, locks, sweeps, and other moves. We kept this style for Taven but felt that he needed modifications with his stance and moves.


Drakeswords: The Drakeswords are ancient Edenian weapons created for Taven and Daegon, the sons of Argus and Delia. These swords were designed to be used on a quest to save the realms from Armageddon. Daegon had prematurely awakened and had acquired the swords before his older brother Taven could. In their battle, Taven defeated Daegon and took a Drakesword from him. After Blaze's death and Daegon's cast into the Void, Taven was given both Drakeswords to use as the new Protector God of Edenia. Technique-wise, Taven uses them to cut, slash, and spin. His use of them is somewhat similar to that of a scimitar as well as the Chinese Double Sabers. The idea behind him using both Drakeswords was due to Daegon's banishment and Taven's position as the new Protector God of Edenia.

Special Moves

Inner Fire: Taven uses a modified version of his projectile move from MKA. In this new version, he does a spinning sidestep (think of Darrius' Chest Cruncher when he sidesteps but with spinning involved) and then extends both open hands, focusing his Fa Jing into them to blast a fireball at the opponent. This high-hitting projectile is great to use as a counter against linear assaults from the opponent.

Godly Charge: Taven quickly steps forward and slides through with his fiery shoulder, knocking the opponent down. This is a high knockdown special that comes out fairly quickly. However, it's avoidable through sidestepping and isn't that safe on block.

Speed of Light: Taven uses a modified version of the Speed of Light. When he charges forward, he continues on with his attacks instead of stopping if the opponent blocks. If the opponent does block, he/she will be pushed from Taven's attacks but won't be knocked down. The hits are high, mid, then high again, the last hit knocking the opponent down. This is a tricky move that comes out quickly but is punishable on block. Also, it can be avoided through sidestepping.

Ring of Hatred: With a fiery fist, Taven does a jumping ground strike, sending out a ring of fire. This is an unblockable move that tracks and has a quake effect, causing the opponent to stumble. It can be used to avoid low attacks and it can only be avoided by jumping into the air.

Divine Armor: Using proper timing, Taven can become immune to projectiles if he activates the move at the right time.

Throws

Gold Dragon Lock: Taven stands at the side of the opponent and hooks his arms around the opponents neck. He then twists his body so that he is bending the opponent's back to lay against his back. He then pulls his arms down across him, flipping his opponent backwards over his hip while he is still standing.

Powerbomb: This is a Pro-Wrestling move. Taven grabs the opponent's legs, flips and picks him/her up, having him/her upside down. He then slams the opponent down on the ground, head first.

Overall Gameplay Style: Overall, Taven is an intermediate, well-rounded fighter. His styles kind of complement each other, with Jinlongquan being more of a close-quarters style while his Drakeswords give him more of a range to them. His special moves have a nice variety to them and for the most part give him good distance from the opponent.

Mastery Level: 3

Fatalities

Power of the Punch: Taven charges his Fa Jing into a flaming fist and punches the opponent's head off.

Cross Cleave: Taking his Drakeswords, he slashes the opponent across the abdomen with one, then down the middle with the other. He then kicks them at the point each line met and they fall down into four separate pieces.

Costumes

Primary Costume: Taven's primary costume is his MKA alternate look, the armor that his mother left him in what became the new Lin Kuei Temple.

Alternate Costume: His alternate costume has more of a Greco-Roman battle armor influence in its design. He wears a sleeveless chest armor like this and leather arm guard with an elbow cap like this. Also, he wears armored pants similar in design to the ones in his MKA primary costume and Greek greaves made from moulded brass on legs with leather straps.

Extra Costumes: none

Get Up Animation: Taven's get up animation is a modified form of the generic get up from MKDA-MKA. Basically, he pounds the ground with a fiery fist, brushes himself off with hands and gets up

Victory Pose: He spins his Drakeswords around in circles, then strikes a cool pose.

Kombat Zone: Taven's Temple

Description: Taven's Temple is a temple made to honor Taven, the new Protector God of Edenia. This temple was created after Armageddon and acts as a place of worship and guidance. Taven goes here to contemplate and to communicate with his parents, Argus and Delia, for wisdom and guidance as well as come before those who follow him.

Stage Traps: none

Stage Fatality: The opponent is knocked into a statue of Taven, breaking the bottom part of it. The statue falls down and smashes the opponent.


Bio

My quest had led me all over the realms until I was eventually back home in Edenia. I fought and defeated my brother then fought one-on-one with Blaze as many other fighters tried to make their way up the pyramid. I defeated Blaze and was about to finish him when Daegon come out of nowhere and laid the final blow. He laughed, thinking he had cheated me out of victory before Mother and Father appeared. Disappointed by my brother, they took him away and granted me the role of Protector of Edenia. I looked down into the crater below and saw that there were some survivors. I was happy that my efforts did not kill all of them, but unfortunately, the quest only caused the realms more suffering. I will do my best to uphold my duty and make sure Edenia is safe from harm as well as find a solution to the problem concerning the realms.

After all this time, I still had not found a way to bring stability to the realms. Recently, the Elder Gods have been worried due to too many small things happening at once, the disappearance of the vampire prince, Vetalas, Raiden's apparent demise, recent activity in Outworld, and now with the disappearance of Queen Sindel. They have become anxious and, for the first time, have begun to act by themselves. The Elder Gods have sent their new champion, Serrath, to investigate. I too am concerned about the disappearance of Queen Sindel. Her general, Jade, came to my temple to seek my guidance. I came to see her, and she told me what she knows of this plight. After she left, I found an invitation to a tournament within Edenia in my temple. I knew of the tournament, but found it odd that they would invite me. Apparently, the winner of the tournament will have their greatest desire fulfilled, but something seems a little odd.... Why would they invite a god to a tournament where you can have any one wish? I seek to find out the truth to all of this, so I decided to accept the invitation and enter this tournament.

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Sub-Zero_7th: Taven is one of those characters that I don't like too much, but we felt the need to bring him back to not waste his potential. We wanted to show what he's like as the new Protector God of Edenia and how he handles his responsibilities. We gave some changes to his styles and a couple of his specials. He definitely needed to show some signs of change in some areas, giving him a more powerful feel. Going back to his story a bit, he's in the dilemma of trying to find a solution to bringing stability to the realms. He gets the invitation to the tournament, but he suspects something is up and accepts it in order to get to the bottom of it. Overall, we have some things in store for him, and I hope that our attempt to improve him has worked.


Paragon: Taven was one of the first people we decided needed to be used in the project. Since he had the major role in Armageddon, it would have been stupid for us not to use him to his full potential. He has gained the role he competed with his brother for, albeit, not in the way he expected. I wanted to have him as a serious and good-natured yet impatient and naive individual considering his ‘young age’ and the importance of his position. I came up with the idea of him using both swords, since his brother is ‘no longer with us’. However, I thought Daegon's stance was a little silly, so I came up with a different stance for him to use. His story is going to flesh out more of his personality, both the good sides and the bad, and I hope you enjoy it.
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latvia101
11/12/2007 02:34 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Uh, I didn't even know you were confused about that...Have you studied Jeet Kune Do concepts or something?


Iactually wrote a research paper on Jeet Kune Do last yearsmile
I also plan on joining a class as soon as possible



Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
Sub-Zero_7th: Taven is one of those characters that I don't like too much, but we felt the need to bring him back to not waste his potential. We wanted to show what he's like as the new Protector God of Edenia and how he handles his responsibilities. We gave some changes to his styles and a couple of his specials. He definitely needed to show some signs of change in some areas, giving him a more powerful feel. Going back to his story a bit, he's in the dilemma of trying to find a solution to bringing stability to the realms. He gets the invitation to the tournament, but he suspects something is up and accepts it in order to get to the bottom of it. Overall, we have some things in store for him, and I hope that our attempt to improve him has worked.


Paragon: Taven was one of the first people we decided needed to be used in the project. Since he had the major role in Armageddon, it would have been stupid for us not to use him to his full potential. He has gained the role he competed with his brother for, albeit, not in the way he expected. I wanted to have him as a serious and good-natured yet impatient and naive individual considering his ‘young age’ and the importance of his position. I came up with the idea of him using both swords, since his brother is ‘no longer with us’. However, I thought Daegon's stance was a little silly, so I came up with a different stance for him to use. His story is going to flesh out more of his personality, both the good sides and the bad, and I hope you enjoy it.


Taven definatly needed improvment from mka, which looks to me like you guys managed to make great progress with.

Overall i'm happy to see Taven return and also happy to see that usless stance he used (which resembled Hsu Hao's Wrestling stance) not return.
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Sub-Zero_7th
11/12/2007 03:16 AM (UTC)
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Ah, I see. That's neat. Good luck with your martial arts training. I would love to get back into my Kung Fu training someday in the near future, but right now, I'm just going to stick to training at home.

I'm glad you like what we did for Taven. Yeah, his fighting stance was something we really didn't like, and we instead wanted to give it a more dragon-ish look and feel to it. I imagine his stance would be somewhat similar to what I saw in a video of Uechi Ryu Karate, with Taven being in a high, relatively narrow stance with both his hands open and his arms raised more than they are in his MKA Gold Dragon stance.

We still have more characters to sort out and release, but like always, be sure to stay tuned. Right now, we're just going to stick to releasing one character every few days or so, namely because there are a few characters in particular that need sorting out, and we want to get as much feedback on each character as possible.
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11/12/2007 06:12 AM (UTC)
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Mercurus and Reiko are my favorites so far. Its time reiko took over. And I like Mercurus becase he reminds of Jason Bourne. Im glad Taven will return. He should be the next Liu Kang.
Will Shinnok be threatened by the return of Lucifer? That would be cool I think. As long as the devil looked more like the fallen angel of light than a red guy with a pitchfork.
Please take away create a fatality.
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latvia101
11/12/2007 06:12 AM (UTC)
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Yet another stupid question, will there be a character from the Tengu faction?
High five, man. Biggest upgrade of Taven made. Not only did you pick Daegon's ending to be real (Which automatically disqualifies any other endings), now Taven takes both swords and godhood.
I was also puzzled on why Taven would want a wish. Couldn't he grant it himself? If so, is a rival using the tourney as a trap?
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Sub-Zero_7th
11/12/2007 06:05 PM (UTC)
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colt1107 Wrote:
Mercurus and Reiko are my favorites so far. Its time reiko took over. And I like Mercurus becase he reminds of Jason Bourne. Im glad Taven will return. He should be the next Liu Kang.
Will Shinnok be threatened by the return of Lucifer? That would be cool I think. As long as the devil looked more like the fallen angel of light than a red guy with a pitchfork.
Please take away create a fatality.


I'm glad you really like Mercurus, and your comparison of him to Jason Bourne is very interesting. I never thought of that before, but yes, they do have a kind of similarity to each other in some ways. The ironic thing about Mercurus (at least one ironic thing) is that although he doesn't exactly want to stick out, he kind of does anyway, whether intentional or not.

I'm glad you like Taven's return, but we're not really going to make him the "next Liu Kang". With our story, we don't have to have a single main protagonist. We want things like that to be a bit more ambiguous and not give too much focus to one particular character.

As for Shinnok being threatened by the return of Lucifer, it's not likely going to happen. I'm pretty sure Lucifer is "dead" or something along those lines. We don't have kreate-a-fatality as can be seen by us putting two fatalities for each character. Did you not check those out or something?

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Yet another stupid question, will there be a character from the Tengu faction?


Actually, your questions aren't stupid. However, always remember that there are some questions we simply can't answer either at this point in time or not at all. As for a Tengu character, no, we're not putting in any Tengu characters in simply because we don't want too many ninja-type characters, and with the ninja-type characters we are having, we want to not use the "ninja" label for them as we feel that Scorpion is the only one that should really be called a ninja, despite his personality.

BloodSplatter-ChainsawMan:
High five, man. Biggest upgrade of Taven made. Not only did you pick Daegon's ending to be real (Which automatically disqualifies any other endings), now Taven takes both swords and godhood.
I was also puzzled on why Taven would want a wish. Couldn't he grant it himself? If so, is a rival using the tourney as a trap?


Hey there. I'm glad you like the upgrades for Taven though I can kind of understand if some aren't going to like the idea of him only having one new special and little tweaks to two of his specials. We do want to give more new specials throughout each installment, if and when we get to those, of course.

Even though Taven is a full god now, it's not like he has the power to grant wishes or anything of that sort. Despite him being suspicious about the tournament, the idea of the winner getting his/her greatest desire fulfilled would sound intriguing.

With the problem of the realms still not being quite solved yet, this tournament could be a means of fixing things in the realms. Going back to his suspicion though, it would seem all too easy, so he's not certain that this is for real. However, he feels that maybe this is somehow connected to Sindel's disappearance, along with other strange events going on. Either way, he wants to investigate it to find out just what's going on.

The tournament itself is relatively small and rather secretive, so it's not something that many know about. I will admit that it is strange, and the way things are going to turn out may not be agreeable to some. I guess you could say that we are trying to put in as many subtle touches to the different stories as possible so that we don't give away so much. You'll likely see revelations throughout the entire story about this and that.

There are simply some questions that can't be answered, sorry. You're just going to have to stay tuned for more as more will certainly unfold. Again, we want to put in lots of subtle touches and not give away so much. I know that some of you will question why Abaddon, the Demon Lord of Wrath, would want to grant the winner of his tournament his/her greatest desire. I understand that it does come off as rather strange and illogical, but all things will be explained in due time.

Another thing I admit is that we didn't exactly do much in terms of explaining just how bad things have gotten in the realms themselves as they seem to be stable. I do hope to somehow elaborate on such issues, because we do want this story to be dark, gritty, and immense.
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