Well the new characters in MKD were the worse of all time.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
diirecthit •07/20/2014 10:39 PM (UTC) •
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
You can't know that staying 2D would have been successful at a time when the entire marketplace was rejecting 2D fighters as old fashioned and demanding games like MK become more advanced and go the 3D route.
At the time, 3D wasn't seen as an "option" or just another style or genre like it is now. It was seen as the inevitable future of all games. 2D only came back because it became retro and nostalgic.
But if you never made the new stuff, the desire for retro versions would never exist and you'd just be seen as an old fashioned franchise who never grew up or tried anything new and just kept making the same game year after year and franchises that do that become unsuccessful over time too.
Also, Deadly Alliance and Deception were VERY successful games at the time they were released. Not AS successful as MK9, sure, but they were not flops. We only look poorly on them NOW.
diirecthit Wrote:
But following the trend did damage the MK brand
But following the trend did damage the MK brand
You can't know that staying 2D would have been successful at a time when the entire marketplace was rejecting 2D fighters as old fashioned and demanding games like MK become more advanced and go the 3D route.
At the time, 3D wasn't seen as an "option" or just another style or genre like it is now. It was seen as the inevitable future of all games. 2D only came back because it became retro and nostalgic.
But if you never made the new stuff, the desire for retro versions would never exist and you'd just be seen as an old fashioned franchise who never grew up or tried anything new and just kept making the same game year after year and franchises that do that become unsuccessful over time too.
Also, Deadly Alliance and Deception were VERY successful games at the time they were released. Not AS successful as MK9, sure, but they were not flops. We only look poorly on them NOW.
One thing is adapting to the times and upgrading/ adding new features, gameplay mechanics, characters, etc, and that's what every other fighting game franchise has been doing for years, whereas MK started out as SF with gore with 2D gameplay, then became Tekken for MK4, then became a Tekken/Soul Calibur hybrid, and then went back to being 2D (or 2.5D as they call it, just like SF4). MK is just inconsistent at about everything, hell, some characters from MK9 have completely different facial features than in MKvsDCU, and that has been happening evver since they started using 3D models, BUT that's another topic.
diirecthit •07/20/2014 10:41 PM (UTC) •
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MK_Fanatic_ Wrote:
But from what I know about SF, the last game has just been followed by subsequent "updates".
Super SF 4
Super SF 4: Arcade Edition
Ultra Super SF 4
The creators are just milking it now.
diirecthit Wrote:
But following the trend did damage the MK brand (especially the characters, due to 3D gameplay engine limitations, a lot of classic characters lost most of their signature moves, and the new ones ended up sharing moves with many others), i mean, i think MK is the only FG series to change so much during its entire run. SF came back from the dead 10 years after its last installement, still with 2D gameplay, and proved to be successful.
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Well 2D fighters were dead in the late 90's/early 2000s, 3D fighters with sideways walking and real world martial arts was the "in" thing.
diirecthit Wrote:
And that was a mistake on their part imo. There's a reason why The original trilogy + MK9 are the most popular and successful games. MK started as SF with gore and was very successful, and now that they're back to that, MK is on top again.
And that was a mistake on their part imo. There's a reason why The original trilogy + MK9 are the most popular and successful games. MK started as SF with gore and was very successful, and now that they're back to that, MK is on top again.
Well 2D fighters were dead in the late 90's/early 2000s, 3D fighters with sideways walking and real world martial arts was the "in" thing.
But following the trend did damage the MK brand (especially the characters, due to 3D gameplay engine limitations, a lot of classic characters lost most of their signature moves, and the new ones ended up sharing moves with many others), i mean, i think MK is the only FG series to change so much during its entire run. SF came back from the dead 10 years after its last installement, still with 2D gameplay, and proved to be successful.
But from what I know about SF, the last game has just been followed by subsequent "updates".
Super SF 4
Super SF 4: Arcade Edition
Ultra Super SF 4
The creators are just milking it now.
I don't know what your point has to do with what i said, but i believe the fact that they're still updating the game proves that the formula was very successful and still selling, hence the updates.
MK_Fanatic_ •07/20/2014 10:50 PM (UTC) •
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DVorah Wrote:
Well the new characters in MKD were the worse of all time.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
Well the new characters in MKD were the worse of all time.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
MKvsDCU fatalities...
squirt007nc •07/20/2014 11:10 PM (UTC) •
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DVorah Wrote:
Well the new characters in MKD were the worse of all time.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
Well the new characters in MKD were the worse of all time.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
I hate Le mei but i perfer her over Shit D'vorah.
Jaded-Raven •07/20/2014 11:23 PM (UTC) •
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squirt007nc Wrote:
I hate Le mei but i perfer her over Shit D'vorah.
I hate Le mei but i perfer her over Shit D'vorah.
You have expressed this hatred towards D'Vorah in several threads now. I'm curious to know why you think she's so shitty.
DarkenedSoul •07/20/2014 11:34 PM (UTC) •
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squirt007nc Wrote:
I hate Le mei but i perfer her over Shit D'vorah.
DVorah Wrote:
Well the new characters in MKD were the worse of all time.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
Well the new characters in MKD were the worse of all time.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
I hate Le mei but i perfer her over Shit D'vorah.
*DVorah* It is Deadly Alliance, not Dark Alliance. Secondly, there was nothing wrong with that game, except for every character only had one fatality.
*squirt007nc* I like Li Mei as well, but, how can you put D'Vorah the character in denial? You haven't played as her yet!
diirecthit •07/21/2014 02:40 AM (UTC) •
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squirt007nc Wrote:
I hate Le mei but i perfer her over Shit D'vorah.
DVorah Wrote:
Well the new characters in MKD were the worse of all time.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
Well the new characters in MKD were the worse of all time.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
I hate Le mei but i perfer her over Shit D'vorah.
We finally agree for once. Devorah is indeed the shittiest character in the series so far. I bet she'll be gone by MK11, despite of what the developers recently said, obviously they're not going to say: "MOst of the cast in MKX will be new characters, but they're shitty so they'll be a one time deal!"
Scar_Subby •07/21/2014 03:04 AM (UTC) •
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diirecthit Wrote:
We finally agree for once. Devorah is indeed the shittiest character in the series so far. I bet she'll be gone by MK11, despite of what the developers recently said, obviously they're not going to say: "MOst of the cast in MKX will be new characters, but they're shitty so they'll be a one time deal!"
squirt007nc Wrote:
I hate Le mei but i perfer her over Shit D'vorah.
DVorah Wrote:
Well the new characters in MKD were the worse of all time.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
Well the new characters in MKD were the worse of all time.
The fatalities in MKDA were the worst of all time.
Li Mei is the worst of all time (lol, my opinion but whatever)
I really played ALL MK games, but I skipped Dark Allliance for a reason, Li Mei, Sonya Blade, Kitana.... Almost no interesting characters in that game spare for the sorcerers, Frost, Kenshi, Kung Lao and Drahmin
Too much inspiration from Tekken was not good for the MK Branch in my opinion.
I hate Le mei but i perfer her over Shit D'vorah.
We finally agree for once. Devorah is indeed the shittiest character in the series so far. I bet she'll be gone by MK11, despite of what the developers recently said, obviously they're not going to say: "MOst of the cast in MKX will be new characters, but they're shitty so they'll be a one time deal!"
Hey The new characters aren't bad. Kotal is straight up badass and Cassie seems to have the best parts of both parents. I'll reserve judgment on D'Vorah. For the life of me I cannot like Ferra/Torr though. That bitches voice plus the sheer concept just looks dumb to me.
The ONLY way I could accept them is if they are indeed from Chaos realm because then it would make a little sense to me at least. As of now I'm not even reserving judgment on them though. They're shitty.
diirecthit •07/21/2014 03:10 AM (UTC) •
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Scar_Subby Wrote:
Hey The new characters aren't bad. Kotal is straight up badass and Cassie seems to have the best parts of both parents. I'll reserve judgment on D'Vorah. For the life of me I cannot like Ferra/Torr though. That bitches voice plus the sheer concept just looks dumb to me.
The ONLY way I could accept them is if they are indeed from Chaos realm because then it would make a little sense to me at least. As of now I'm not even reserving judgment on them though. They're shitty.
Hey The new characters aren't bad. Kotal is straight up badass and Cassie seems to have the best parts of both parents. I'll reserve judgment on D'Vorah. For the life of me I cannot like Ferra/Torr though. That bitches voice plus the sheer concept just looks dumb to me.
The ONLY way I could accept them is if they are indeed from Chaos realm because then it would make a little sense to me at least. As of now I'm not even reserving judgment on them though. They're shitty.
I also can't stand Ferra/Torr due to Ferra's voice, and the concept is just stupid imo. Lol at your comment "that bitch's voice" hehe i agree! But i'll reserve judgement for them.
Devorah on the other hand is just straight up trash. Shite character.
Kotal Kahn and Cassie Cage are good/decent.
Jaded-Raven •07/21/2014 03:15 AM (UTC) •
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diirecthit Wrote:
Devorah on the other hand is just straight up trash. Shite character.
Devorah on the other hand is just straight up trash. Shite character.
Why?
ShujinkoX •07/21/2014 03:18 AM (UTC) •
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D'Vorah, Kotal and Ferra/Torr > Cassie.
squirt007nc •07/21/2014 03:57 AM (UTC) •
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diirecthit Wrote:
I also can't stand Ferra/Torr due to Ferra's voice, and the concept is just stupid imo. Lol at your comment "that bitch's voice" hehe i agree! But i'll reserve judgement for them.
Devorah on the other hand is just straight up trash. Shite character.
Kotal Kahn and Cassie Cage are good/decent.
Scar_Subby Wrote:
Hey The new characters aren't bad. Kotal is straight up badass and Cassie seems to have the best parts of both parents. I'll reserve judgment on D'Vorah. For the life of me I cannot like Ferra/Torr though. That bitches voice plus the sheer concept just looks dumb to me.
The ONLY way I could accept them is if they are indeed from Chaos realm because then it would make a little sense to me at least. As of now I'm not even reserving judgment on them though. They're shitty.
Hey The new characters aren't bad. Kotal is straight up badass and Cassie seems to have the best parts of both parents. I'll reserve judgment on D'Vorah. For the life of me I cannot like Ferra/Torr though. That bitches voice plus the sheer concept just looks dumb to me.
The ONLY way I could accept them is if they are indeed from Chaos realm because then it would make a little sense to me at least. As of now I'm not even reserving judgment on them though. They're shitty.
I also can't stand Ferra/Torr due to Ferra's voice, and the concept is just stupid imo. Lol at your comment "that bitch's voice" hehe i agree! But i'll reserve judgement for them.
Devorah on the other hand is just straight up trash. Shite character.
Kotal Kahn and Cassie Cage are good/decent.
You completely echoed my sentiments here. Kotal is the best new character so far I love Raiden but his reveal trailer made me more intreated in kotal than him . He's cool. Cassie I mean she's a descendant from two of the most iconic characters in mk that were part if the ORGINAL 7. How can you dislike her. And she seems like she will have a very vital and good story.
diirecthit •07/21/2014 04:43 AM (UTC) •
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squirt007nc Wrote:
You completely echoed my sentiments here. Kotal is the best new character so far I love Raiden but his reveal trailer made me more intreated in kotal than him . He's cool. Cassie I mean she's a descendant from two of the most iconic characters in mk that were part if the ORGINAL 7. How can you dislike her. And she seems like she will have a very vital and good story.
diirecthit Wrote:
I also can't stand Ferra/Torr due to Ferra's voice, and the concept is just stupid imo. Lol at your comment "that bitch's voice" hehe i agree! But i'll reserve judgement for them.
Devorah on the other hand is just straight up trash. Shite character.
Kotal Kahn and Cassie Cage are good/decent.
Scar_Subby Wrote:
Hey The new characters aren't bad. Kotal is straight up badass and Cassie seems to have the best parts of both parents. I'll reserve judgment on D'Vorah. For the life of me I cannot like Ferra/Torr though. That bitches voice plus the sheer concept just looks dumb to me.
The ONLY way I could accept them is if they are indeed from Chaos realm because then it would make a little sense to me at least. As of now I'm not even reserving judgment on them though. They're shitty.
Hey The new characters aren't bad. Kotal is straight up badass and Cassie seems to have the best parts of both parents. I'll reserve judgment on D'Vorah. For the life of me I cannot like Ferra/Torr though. That bitches voice plus the sheer concept just looks dumb to me.
The ONLY way I could accept them is if they are indeed from Chaos realm because then it would make a little sense to me at least. As of now I'm not even reserving judgment on them though. They're shitty.
I also can't stand Ferra/Torr due to Ferra's voice, and the concept is just stupid imo. Lol at your comment "that bitch's voice" hehe i agree! But i'll reserve judgement for them.
Devorah on the other hand is just straight up trash. Shite character.
Kotal Kahn and Cassie Cage are good/decent.
You completely echoed my sentiments here. Kotal is the best new character so far I love Raiden but his reveal trailer made me more intreated in kotal than him . He's cool. Cassie I mean she's a descendant from two of the most iconic characters in mk that were part if the ORGINAL 7. How can you dislike her. And she seems like she will have a very vital and good story.
Well, i think everyone is entitled to their opinion. After all, who we like and who we don't and how do we feel about certain characters it's just the way WE feel, not factual. But we'll see when the game comes out, who ends up on top and who doesn't.
Jaded-Raven •07/21/2014 10:21 AM (UTC) •
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Hmm, I feel ignored. :/
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
martin_m95 •07/21/2014 10:26 AM (UTC) •
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Hmm, I feel ignored. :/
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
Hmm, I feel ignored. :/
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
You want an answer from someone who can't even spell D'vorah's name right.
Jaded-Raven •07/21/2014 10:27 AM (UTC) •
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martin_m95 Wrote:
You want an answer from someone who can't even spell D'vorah's name right.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Hmm, I feel ignored. :/
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
Hmm, I feel ignored. :/
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
You want an answer from someone who can't even spell D'vorah's name right.
That doesn't make their opinions less legit. Alot of people have trouble with spelling.
martin_m95 •07/21/2014 10:35 AM (UTC) •
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
That doesn't make their opinions less legit. Alot of people have trouble with spelling.
martin_m95 Wrote:
You want an answer from someone who can't even spell D'vorah's name right.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Hmm, I feel ignored. :/
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
Hmm, I feel ignored. :/
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
You want an answer from someone who can't even spell D'vorah's name right.
That doesn't make their opinions less legit. Alot of people have trouble with spelling.
Yeah anyway, directhit is the type of person who hates on the characters for the sake of it. I haven't seen anyone else who dislikes D'vorah.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Hmm, I feel ignored. :/
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
Hmm, I feel ignored. :/
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
Because they are human-lovers. They love everything human (Sonya, Li Mei and whatever else looks like the complete perfect human being)
I suppose.
squirt007nc •07/21/2014 03:05 PM (UTC) •
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DVorah Wrote:
Because they are human-lovers. They love everything human (Sonya, Li Mei and whatever else looks like the complete perfect human being)
I suppose.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Hmm, I feel ignored. :/
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
Hmm, I feel ignored. :/
I'm legitimately curious and interested in why you guys think D'Vorah is so shitty, but you seem to avoid answering.
Because they are human-lovers. They love everything human (Sonya, Li Mei and whatever else looks like the complete perfect human being)
I suppose.
Wrong I don't like Le mei. And I like Baraka a non human character.
squirt007nc •07/21/2014 03:21 PM (UTC) •
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DVorah Wrote:
Le Mei?
Dude you really have a hard time getting the names right eh?
Le Mei?
Dude you really have a hard time getting the names right eh?
DVorah Wrote:
Le Mei?
Dude you really have a hard time getting the names right eh?
Le Mei?
Dude you really have a hard time getting the names right eh?
She's irrelevant to me as a character so I can care less about spelling her name right. Same with Mileena.
Jaded-Raven •07/21/2014 04:10 PM (UTC) •
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squirt007nc Wrote:
She's irrelevant to me as a character so I can care less about spelling her name right. Same with Mileena.
DVorah Wrote:
Le Mei?
Dude you really have a hard time getting the names right eh?
Le Mei?
Dude you really have a hard time getting the names right eh?
DVorah Wrote:
Le Mei?
Dude you really have a hard time getting the names right eh?
Le Mei?
Dude you really have a hard time getting the names right eh?
She's irrelevant to me as a character so I can care less about spelling her name right. Same with Mileena.
But what about D'Vorah then? Why is it you hate her so much?
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