No dude, IMHO Rain in MK9 was not all that great, if they make him more like his UMK3 counterpart (faster/different lightning/better round house) then he should be the 3rd ninja IF they are only going include 3, my guess is 5 ninja's.

I am all in for an earth-elemental character... but why Tremor? I don't want ANOTHER ninja. I love ninjas, REAL ninjas, and all this "put a mask on it and call it a ninja" is really getting on my nerves. It's uncreative, it's uninspired, it's unintelligent! And Mortal Kombat already has too many of these kinds of characters. That's why I want them to evolve into something else, and Ermac is possibly the only one who has done so.

If there is going to be an earth-elemental character in MKX, I just hope NRS will go beyond themselves and make a whole new NON-ninja character to be that.

Of course she isn't a ninja, and you know why.

You shouldn't try so hard to rebuke the term. It's not like it's relevant to the game itself, save for Chameleon and Khameleon. It's just a representation of identity.

We all know who the ninjas are; there's no point in stating who aren't.

Liking correct terminology seems to be unappreciated here...

Not really. I want him too. And several other users here do too.

Me as well. Rain is one of my favourite characters. But I doubt we're going to see him in MKX, sadly. :(

lol JR, come on.

Should you be equally upset that Jade has never worn jade-colored clothing, nor jade jewelry? Words carry separate meanings in different settings. They are not to be a reflection of the actual meanings of the words, but of the connotations in which they are used.

Just look at the iconic term FATALITY!. In actuality, a fatality is a death resulting from a disasterous incident, such as a car crash. What we see in MK are blatant murders. We need not be upset that the word 'fatality' is not used correctly, because we know what refers to.

It's fine that these words aren't used correctly; they aren't meant to. I think it's better that we embrace the terms rather than fight them.

This.


Tremor would be a cool addition if they give him his own identity and upgraded fighting style.

I would love to see rain return in a similar fashion to mk9 design-wise. But he needs an overhaul on his fighting style and special moves. They didn't string any lightning or water based attacks into any of his combos. His water splash attack looked so weak it was almost a joke. Rain has so much untapped potential.

Hmm. JR is trying to deny that Tanya is a ninja, because she's not even a "MK ninja" (obviously Mileena/Jade/etc aren't real ninjas either, but let's call them MK ninjas). It's not hard to understand his point.

Tanya isn't in the vein of Mileena/KItana/Jade/Khameleon/Skarlet and that's why he's trying to debunk Tanya as a ninja, not because she's not a real ninja since the only one in MK is Scorpion

I'd rather not see Rain again, sorry.

They did him a nice favor by throwing him in as late DLC, but meh...

I'd rather those spots go to Reptile, Ermac, Noob, or Smoke.

All much higher on the INTERESTING scale than Rain.

I think Rain is super interesting. Edenian prince demigod working for Shao Kahn and a thirst for power. If people weren't so off with him he could be a serious villain.

Short answer:

Rain.

Long answer:

My favourite character is Noob Saibot, but I can live without him in MKX in exchange of other of my top favourite characters, like Li Mei or Nitara.

Ermac is really cool, but always, if I have to choose just one telekinetic-related fighter, will be always Kenshi.

Rain is one of my 5 top favourite characters, and he deserves much more spotlight that only a DLC character.

I never liked Smoke, aside of Noob-Smoke - his updated look for MKD is one of my favourite looks in the MKDA-MKD-MKAr trilogy era -, but the MK (2011) was a great upgrade. But I don't want him as a ninja or cyborg, but an Enenra.

And for Reptile, if for once in a lifetime, his story and character evolved for good... And if NRS can't, then I will be open to give another opportunity to Khameleon. But never ever to Chameleon (or Tremor).

This! Except for the Smoke part. It is time that Ermac took a break and Rain was brought in the spotlight for once. His story is soooo promising.

I agree with Rain. I think him and Tanya would work well as the traitor duo. I disagree about Ermac however. Ermac and Kenshi are so different from each other. Kenshi's use of his sword makes him his own unqiue fighter, making the fact he uses telekinesis his and Ermac's only similarity, and let's not forget that it was Ermac himself who taught Kenshi how to use his telekinetic powers in the old timeline. Simply put, they've both been in the same game before and have worked so well and so different that it is basically like playing as two completely different characters.

And I don't think Ermac needs a break. He's up there with some of the most underused characters in the entire series, with Deception being his most prominent appearance to date, and even then he wasn't exactly highly used in it. He was reduced to a mere lackey on the scale of Reptile, Baraka and Sheeva in MK9, with his two greatest (and almost only) good scenes being his fist appearance and ripping off Jax's arms. There are a dozen characters that should take a break, and Ermac is near the bottom. He has so much untapped story and gameplay potential that I have high hopes he will appear in MKX.

Thank you!

Kunoichi. A female ninja is a kunoichi. And yeah, Tanya isn't a "MK kunoichi".

Not entirely true. Yes, there are female ninjas who are kunoichis, but it's a certain branch of ninjutsu, using seduction as part of their techniques. However, a female ninja can still be a ninja without being a kunoichi.

I love Rain and would want him to come back I just don't think he will in this game. I thought that his gameplay was spot on in mk 9 and they gave him a good story too so I would love for that story to continue and see where Rain ends up.

The obvious ninja's that need to return are Reptile and Ermac because of the concept art. That being said I personally don't believe we will see that many ninjas in this game. I'd love to be wrong about that though.

I also love Noob Saibot and Smoke and feel like they would be next in line if other male ninjas after added just because they have been in more games so they have more fans.

It would be great to see Tremor also in this game.

She is an exact palette swap of Kitana, who happens to be a MK ninja.

As far as qualification goes, Tanya fits the bill, even if she never bore the traditional MK ninja garb. In any case, she has already been confirmed to be a MK ninja, so any rebuttal is completely void.

Hmm..I understand your points. Even though it's kind of obvious that there's a little bit of Ermac-fanboy exaggeration in there :P I personally love Ermac (he is my fav "ninja" after Rain) but I can also see how he would not be needed in the story of MKX. His portrayal in the last few games was great and earned him a lot of points so I don't know what you are talking about him being underused. If you mean gameplay wise, then I have no idea. I am just speaking in terms of story and looks. I'd pick Ermac over Scorpion or Sub Zero any day tbh, but if I had to pick I'd choose Rain. I just find him a lot more intriguing and wanna know more about his story.

Tanya is not an exact palette swap of Kitana. They changed the Kitana 3D model to be Tanya INSTEAD of Kitana, and then in MK Gold they made a NEW 3D model for Kitana.

And I refuse to call Tanya an MK ninja, because lik wdm, I disagree with her fitting the bill. She doesn't.

I'm just going to poke fun at you and this will be my last post on this specific issue.

Ed Boon explicitly classed Tanya as a MK ninja. Provided your earlier argument about ignoring the facts and spreading ignorance yadda yadda yadda when it comes to defining a ninja

It would seem that you yourself are now ignoring the fact and being ignorant

I'm not ignoring that fact. I am well aware of it. I just don't see it the same way.

For Argus sake, call her or don't call her kunoichi. Not female MK ninja, (MK) kunoichi.

When was Tanya "explicitly confirmed as ninja" by Ed Boon? If you mea the Khameleon bio video from MKA, he says that Khameleon has moves from female characters, not ninjas, did i miss something, or are you making things up?