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06/13/2014 01:17 PM (UTC)
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wdm6789 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Skarlet was still an assassin working for Shao Kahn, just like Kitana, Mileena and Jade all were. So in that respect they fit together.


But you can't just put Skarlet in with those three, it's sacrilegious. Skarlet is just a DLC.



Mortal Kombat isn't a religion. And even if it was, I would still put Skarlet in there with them.
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06/13/2014 02:26 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
wdm6789 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Skarlet was still an assassin working for Shao Kahn, just like Kitana, Mileena and Jade all were. So in that respect they fit together.


But you can't just put Skarlet in with those three, it's sacrilegious. Skarlet is just a DLC.



Mortal Kombat isn't a religion. And even if it was, I would still put Skarlet in there with them.


I'm big on seniority. To me. Kitana/Jade/Mileena are the original ones, they have been there since the beginning. Skarlet just popped up a few years ago, she is not deserving to be categorized with those three. She's just another henchman character. Kitana, Mileena, and Jade have long backstories.


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06/13/2014 03:08 PM (UTC)
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This thread has just become a flame war. Relax guys EDIT: I am clearly hoping for reptile =] ...and i like his chances
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06/13/2014 03:11 PM (UTC)
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wdm6789 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
wdm6789 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Skarlet was still an assassin working for Shao Kahn, just like Kitana, Mileena and Jade all were. So in that respect they fit together.


But you can't just put Skarlet in with those three, it's sacrilegious. Skarlet is just a DLC.



Mortal Kombat isn't a religion. And even if it was, I would still put Skarlet in there with them.


I'm big on seniority. To me. Kitana/Jade/Mileena are the original ones, they have been there since the beginning. Skarlet just popped up a few years ago, she is not deserving to be categorized with those three. She's just another henchman character. Kitana, Mileena, and Jade have long backstories.




Your seniority is meaningless.

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06/13/2014 03:15 PM (UTC)
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Hope Reptile can speak.

Wonder what'll happen to...

- Ermac
- Rain
- Noob Saibot
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- Smoke
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06/13/2014 03:19 PM (UTC)
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I'd love to see a brand new ninja character. Not sure what color he'd be since they're running out of options, but a brown ninja that controls earth (no, not Tremor) could be cool if done right.
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06/13/2014 03:34 PM (UTC)
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Baraka407 Wrote:
I'd love to see a brand new ninja character. Not sure what color he'd be since they're running out of options, but a brown ninja that controls earth (no, not Tremor) could be cool if done right.


I am with ya there. And I am hoping he is a super secret character for nostalgia sake. Even if the character is not even playable, Itd be cool if he was even palette swap of scorp. and then the rumors come and he's playable in the next game. (a la reptile/ermac back in the day)
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06/13/2014 03:40 PM (UTC)
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If there's gonna be a ninja that can control earth besides Tremor. Its color should be orange instead.
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06/13/2014 03:53 PM (UTC)
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Baraka407 Wrote:
I'd love to see a brand new ninja character. Not sure what color he'd be since they're running out of options, but a brown ninja that controls earth (no, not Tremor) could be cool if done right.


Pink.

We need a pink male ninja. And I am being serious with this post.

He will be called Pinklet, and everyone will adore him so! Because nothing is manlier than a guy in pink.
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06/13/2014 03:56 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
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I hope its one of the female ninjas. Kitana and Jade, and maybe Tanya


Tanya isn't a "ninja".


Yes, she is.

Ed Boon confirmed it way back in 2007, during Khameleon's promotional video for Amrageddon. He stated how Khameleon adopts the moves of the female ninjas, listing Tanya among them. Also, Khameleon does have one of Tanya's moves, further establishing her as a ninja.

In any case, the women tend to be referred to as 'female ninjas,' so I don't think they count. Any of them could make it into the game.
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06/13/2014 04:06 PM (UTC)
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wdm6789 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
wdm6789 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Skarlet was still an assassin working for Shao Kahn, just like Kitana, Mileena and Jade all were. So in that respect they fit together.


But you can't just put Skarlet in with those three, it's sacrilegious. Skarlet is just a DLC.



Mortal Kombat isn't a religion. And even if it was, I would still put Skarlet in there with them.


I'm big on seniority. To me. Kitana/Jade/Mileena are the original ones, they have been there since the beginning. Skarlet just popped up a few years ago, she is not deserving to be categorized with those three. She's just another henchman character. Kitana, Mileena, and Jade have long backstories.




I agree, Kitana, Mileena and Jade are the original ones. But now there's one more. She's new, she's a rookie, but she belongs.

This would be like if people went their way to shun Ermac, Noob, Smoke, Rain and maybe even Reptile, because Scorpion and Sub-Zero are the two first palette swap ninjas.

I don't care about who came first. That doesn't matter.
Riyakou Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
martin_m95 Wrote:
I hope its one of the female ninjas. Kitana and Jade, and maybe Tanya


Tanya isn't a "ninja".


Yes, she is.

Ed Boon confirmed it way back in 2007, during Khameleon's promotional video for Amrageddon. He stated how Khameleon adopts the moves of the female ninjas, listing Tanya among them. Also, Khameleon does have one of Tanya's moves, further establishing her as a ninja.

In any case, the women tend to be referred to as 'female ninjas,' so I don't think they count. Any of them could make it into the game.

Mention one thing about Tanya that makes her a ninja. Forget all the other characters, forget what Ed Boon said, forget about Khameleon... Focus on Tanya and tell me what about her makes her a ninja.
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06/13/2014 04:31 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Mention one thing about Tanya that makes her a ninja. Forget all the other characters, forget what Ed Boon said, forget about Khameleon... Focus on Tanya and tell me what about her makes her a ninja.


I think the point here is that since the inception of the game several characters despite how they have evolved into their present existences, were originally identified (incorrectly or correctly) as ninjas.

BEFORE the characters got complex and the lore of MK has expanded, when boiled down to it we identified many of the characters as ninjas, because of their palette swaps off the original ninjas.

So your point is moot, because Ed Boon named Tanya as a MK ninja. Throw all the real world definitions away; because this is fantasy, and redefine ninjas for the sake of MK as characters who wear a color of the rainbow and at some point wear a mask.
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06/13/2014 05:17 PM (UTC)
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moneyguy Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Mention one thing about Tanya that makes her a ninja. Forget all the other characters, forget what Ed Boon said, forget about Khameleon... Focus on Tanya and tell me what about her makes her a ninja.


I think the point here is that since the inception of the game several characters despite how they have evolved into their present existences, were originally identified (incorrectly or correctly) as ninjas.

BEFORE the characters got complex and the lore of MK has expanded, when boiled down to it we identified many of the characters as ninjas, because of their palette swaps off the original ninjas.

So your point is moot, because Ed Boon named Tanya as a MK ninja. Throw all the real world definitions away; because this is fantasy, and redefine ninjas for the sake of MK as characters who wear a color of the rainbow and at some point wear a mask.


What defines a ninja in MK then? Tell me. Is it enough that Boon calls a character a ninja for you all to see it as a ninja, even if that character has no qualities that is even close to being a ninja?
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06/13/2014 05:21 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Mention one thing about Tanya that makes her a ninja. Forget all the other characters, forget what Ed Boon said, forget about Khameleon... Focus on Tanya and tell me what about her makes her a ninja.
Dat bikini. She ain't slick trying to cover it up with a skirt.
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06/13/2014 05:35 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:

Wow, you're beyond retarded.... You started this whole thing by calling me ignorant for such a silly little detail as MK Ninjas. I wouldn't compare you to a Tumblr kid without reason.


You said you didn't care about the facts, and I replied that is where ignorance comes from. Which is true. You put yourself in that position though, not me.


K, it's been a day I don't want to argue anymore or make an internet enemy lol. You DON'T call someone ignorant for something as ridiculous as this. Ignorance is something like prejudiced or racism.. It's a lot more offensive that " name calling". Not MK ninja rights lol.... Just saying.
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06/13/2014 05:40 PM (UTC)
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If I am being honest I fully expect to see every single ninja in this game by the end. Packaged with the game? sure, I'd say reptile and ermac have the best shot. But lets be honest, the ninjas are the most popular collective characters in mortal kombat. They will be DLC because boon and NRS knows that they will sell very well. To long time fans the ninjas are very popular and they will be embraced by new comers as well because they all have interesting abilities and costumes.
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06/13/2014 05:45 PM (UTC)
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06/13/2014 05:52 PM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Mention one thing about Tanya that makes her a ninja. Forget all the other characters, forget what Ed Boon said, forget about Khameleon... Focus on Tanya and tell me what about her makes her a ninja.
Dat bikini. She ain't slick trying to cover it up with a skirt.


So... a bikini = being a ninja. Got it.

stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:

Wow, you're beyond retarded.... You started this whole thing by calling me ignorant for such a silly little detail as MK Ninjas. I wouldn't compare you to a Tumblr kid without reason.


You said you didn't care about the facts, and I replied that is where ignorance comes from. Which is true. You put yourself in that position though, not me.


K, it's been a day I don't want to argue anymore or make an internet enemy lol. You DON'T call someone ignorant for something as ridiculous as this. Ignorance is something like prejudiced or racism.. It's a lot more offensive that " name calling". Not MK ninja rights lol.... Just saying.


Yeah, you keep saying alot. It's not changing the situation though.
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06/13/2014 06:01 PM (UTC)
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I feel like it's either Ermac or Reptile. But honestly, I feel like it would Ermac, if it couldn't be more than one. I mean, he could have a dramatic change over the years due to his multiple souls and such.
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06/13/2014 06:03 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
wdm6789 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
wdm6789 Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Skarlet was still an assassin working for Shao Kahn, just like Kitana, Mileena and Jade all were. So in that respect they fit together.


But you can't just put Skarlet in with those three, it's sacrilegious. Skarlet is just a DLC.



Mortal Kombat isn't a religion. And even if it was, I would still put Skarlet in there with them.


I'm big on seniority. To me. Kitana/Jade/Mileena are the original ones, they have been there since the beginning. Skarlet just popped up a few years ago, she is not deserving to be categorized with those three. She's just another henchman character. Kitana, Mileena, and Jade have long backstories.




I agree, Kitana, Mileena and Jade are the original ones. But now there's one more. She's new, she's a rookie, but she belongs.

This would be like if people went their way to shun Ermac, Noob, Smoke, Rain and maybe even Reptile, because Scorpion and Sub-Zero are the two first palette swap ninjas.

I don't care about who came first. That doesn't matter.

Riyakou Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
martin_m95 Wrote:
I hope its one of the female ninjas. Kitana and Jade, and maybe Tanya


Tanya isn't a "ninja".


Yes, she is.

Ed Boon confirmed it way back in 2007, during Khameleon's promotional video for Amrageddon. He stated how Khameleon adopts the moves of the female ninjas, listing Tanya among them. Also, Khameleon does have one of Tanya's moves, further establishing her as a ninja.

In any case, the women tend to be referred to as 'female ninjas,' so I don't think they count. Any of them could make it into the game.


Mention one thing about Tanya that makes her a ninja. Forget all the other characters, forget what Ed Boon said, forget about Khameleon... Focus on Tanya and tell me what about her makes her a ninja.


The only things that define a ninja in MK are having a generic single color scheme and being a palette swap.

Tanya has the single color scheme of yellow, matching Scorpion (the biggest giveaway that she is ninja). In addition, Tanya is in fact a palette swap of Kitana, as the appearance initially belonged to Kitana in MK4, before she was cut from the game.
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06/13/2014 06:07 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
The only things that define a ninja in MK are having a generic single color scheme and being a palette swap.

Tanya has the single color scheme of yellow, matching Scorpion (the biggest giveaway that she is ninja). In addition, Tanya is in fact a palette swap of Kitana, as the appearance initially belonged to Kitana in MK4, before she was cut from the game.


Kira has a single colour scheme: red. Is she a ninja?
Li Mei has a single colour scheme: purple. Is she a ninja?

It's not enough for me to define her as a ninja. But if that's enough for you to call her a ninja, then continue as you were.
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06/13/2014 06:08 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
oracle Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:

Mention one thing about Tanya that makes her a ninja. Forget all the other characters, forget what Ed Boon said, forget about Khameleon... Focus on Tanya and tell me what about her makes her a ninja.
Dat bikini. She ain't slick trying to cover it up with a skirt.


So... a bikini = being a ninja. Got it.

stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:

Wow, you're beyond retarded.... You started this whole thing by calling me ignorant for such a silly little detail as MK Ninjas. I wouldn't compare you to a Tumblr kid without reason.


You said you didn't care about the facts, and I replied that is where ignorance comes from. Which is true. You put yourself in that position though, not me.


K, it's been a day I don't want to argue anymore or make an internet enemy lol. You DON'T call someone ignorant for something as ridiculous as this. Ignorance is something like prejudiced or racism.. It's a lot more offensive that " name calling". Not MK ninja rights lol.... Just saying.


Yeah, you keep saying alot. It's not changing the situation though.


Flame war like you read about.
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06/13/2014 06:13 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
The only things that define a ninja in MK are having a generic single color scheme and being a palette swap.

Tanya has the single color scheme of yellow, matching Scorpion (the biggest giveaway that she is ninja). In addition, Tanya is in fact a palette swap of Kitana, as the appearance initially belonged to Kitana in MK4, before she was cut from the game.


Kira has a single colour scheme: red. Is she a ninja?
Li Mei has a single colour scheme: purple. Is she a ninja?

It's not enough for me to define her as a ninja. But if that's enough for you to call her a ninja, then continue as you were.


Of course that's not enough.

You may have missed it, but the character must also be a palette swap. Kira and Li Mei are not palette swaps.

I must say, though, that all palette swaps stem from Socprion and Kitana.
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06/13/2014 06:17 PM (UTC)
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So... a bikini = being a ninja. Got it.
Yep, tbh. The only thing that really saves Reiko is his Shao Kahn fetish gear in MKA.
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06/13/2014 06:35 PM (UTC)
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thisiscourage Wrote:
Flame war like you read about.


Lords no, we are just having a disagreement, that's all. That stinky tends to namecalling to get his point across is his choice, but when all is said and done, it's just a difference in opinion. :)

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Of course that's not enough.

You may have missed it, but the character must also be a palette swap. Kira and Li Mei are not palette swaps.

I must say, though, that all palette swaps stem from Socprion and Kitana.


I find it really sad that that's enough for people to consider a character for a ninja... it ruins the whole meaning of the word.

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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
So... a bikini = being a ninja. Got it.
Yep, tbh. The only thing that really saves Reiko is his Shao Kahn fetish gear in MKA.


Which funnily enough is more like a bikini than his MK4 attire...
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