projectzero00 •06/12/2014 09:53 PM (UTC) •
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Nathan Wrote:
Crossing my fingers for Cyrax or Sektor. They are still members of the Lin Kuei, and technically Ninjas. Just mechanized.
And just a general question, would Ermac and Reptile still be classified as Ninjas? I mean, Ermac is a warrior comprised of thousands of souls. I doubt they were all Ninja souls. And his look is pretty far from being Ninjaish.
And Reptile, he's basically just a Reptilian warrior. If it weren't for his DLC outfits, he wouldn't be much of a Ninja anymore either.
The characters just really changed a lot since their first inception.
Crossing my fingers for Cyrax or Sektor. They are still members of the Lin Kuei, and technically Ninjas. Just mechanized.
And just a general question, would Ermac and Reptile still be classified as Ninjas? I mean, Ermac is a warrior comprised of thousands of souls. I doubt they were all Ninja souls. And his look is pretty far from being Ninjaish.
And Reptile, he's basically just a Reptilian warrior. If it weren't for his DLC outfits, he wouldn't be much of a Ninja anymore either.
The characters just really changed a lot since their first inception.
I'd say all of them started as ninjas but most of them evolved into something else. Ermac headed more to a mystic kinda look and Reptile...well look at his MKDA look. Technically no one can be considered a ninja anymore besides Scorpion but they call the original palette swaps ninjas just coz they started that way imo. Oh and btw the Lin Kuei aren't ninjas.
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
I'm guessing Reptile and Ermac. Thoughts?
I'm guessing Reptile and Ermac. Thoughts?
I'd go Ermac before Reptile because Ermac's almost always been a more significant character from a story standpoint. I love Reptile and all, hope he makes the cut, but he's never been more than a lackey in-story.
Looking at the other former palette swaps, I'd say there's a 99% chance we won't be seeing Smoke, and that percentage dips a bit (but not much) when referring to Noob and Rain.
Jaded-Raven •06/12/2014 10:19 PM (UTC) •
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Nathan Wrote:
Ah, honestly completely forgot that fact. Well, that explains Jaded's fun reaction then.
projectzero00 Wrote:
Oh and btw the Lin Kuei aren't ninjas.
Oh and btw the Lin Kuei aren't ninjas.
Ah, honestly completely forgot that fact. Well, that explains Jaded's fun reaction then.
It's always a debate who is a ninja and who isn't. In the true term of the word, Scorpion is the only one who is a ninja, at least when he was alive. Now he is more a hellspawn than a ninja though.
Some people will argue that in MK lore, the Lin Kuei invented Ninjutsu, but as shown several times in the lore, the Lin Kuei do not want to be called ninjas. They are warriors and assassins, but not ninjas.
However, without being technical, Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Reptile, Noob, Smoke, Ermac, Rain, Sektor, Cyrax, Chameleon, Khameleon, Kitana, Mileena, Jade, Frost, Skarlet and even Tanya are referred to as ninjas. All of them, besides Tanya, wear masks and apparently that is enough to be called a ninja by some. Tanya is called a ninja because she wears something similar to the other female Edenians which are Kitana, Mileena and Jade, but she is in no way a ninja otherwise.
But people don't care, so... I will just drown in my own blood instead. ^^
martin_m95 •06/12/2014 10:27 PM (UTC) •
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
It's always a debate who is a ninja and who isn't. In the true term of the word, Scorpion is the only one who is a ninja.
It's always a debate who is a ninja and who isn't. In the true term of the word, Scorpion is the only one who is a ninja.
MK4 Reiko could also be considered a true ninja. He does use shurikens and is very fast after all.
I think Ermac is a big candidate (and I hope for something close to that "fanart" by their own concept artist). He being made of souls and one of them King Jerrod and all that stuff... it has a lot of potential and I really like how they're making him an imposing and fearsome figure.
Sub-Zero_7th •06/12/2014 10:53 PM (UTC) •
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Ermac and Rain are the two male ninjas that I'd like to see return.
cyrax_has_returned •06/13/2014 12:21 AM (UTC) •
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Im hoping badly for cyrax, he was one of my 3 mains in MK9 and also my Fav in MK3 - trilogy - DA
JaymzHetfield •06/13/2014 01:03 AM (UTC) •
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I'd like Ermac and/or Reptile. I prefer Ermac but Reptile is part of MK DNA. Ah crap, I forgot about Noob Saibot. Hidden character maybe? Noob had such a good showing in MK9 though I wouldn't mind if he sat this one out.
stinky_thc_cloud •06/13/2014 01:07 AM (UTC) •
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Reps fans, I love ya and all, but I'm hoping for Ermac and Noob Saibot.
I like rep too. Gameplay wise I'm sure he would be awesome, but story wise. He sucks.lol
Reps fans, I love ya and all, but I'm hoping for Ermac and Noob Saibot.
I like rep too. Gameplay wise I'm sure he would be awesome, but story wise. He sucks.lol
Reptile in my opinion has the single most interesting back story of any character in MK. The writers just always reduce him to a lackey and never expand upon his story.
stinky_thc_cloud •06/13/2014 01:10 AM (UTC) •
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
It's always a debate who is a ninja and who isn't. In the true term of the word, Scorpion is the only one who is a ninja, at least when he was alive. Now he is more a hellspawn than a ninja though.
Some people will argue that in MK lore, the Lin Kuei invented Ninjutsu, but as shown several times in the lore, the Lin Kuei do not want to be called ninjas. They are warriors and assassins, but not ninjas.
However, without being technical, Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Reptile, Noob, Smoke, Ermac, Rain, Sektor, Cyrax, Chameleon, Khameleon, Kitana, Mileena, Jade, Frost, Skarlet and even Tanya are referred to as ninjas. All of them, besides Tanya, wear masks and apparently that is enough to be called a ninja by some. Tanya is called a ninja because she wears something similar to the other female Edenians which are Kitana, Mileena and Jade, but she is in no way a ninja otherwise.
But people don't care, so... I will just drown in my own blood instead. ^^
Nathan Wrote:
Ah, honestly completely forgot that fact. Well, that explains Jaded's fun reaction then.
projectzero00 Wrote:
Oh and btw the Lin Kuei aren't ninjas.
Oh and btw the Lin Kuei aren't ninjas.
Ah, honestly completely forgot that fact. Well, that explains Jaded's fun reaction then.
It's always a debate who is a ninja and who isn't. In the true term of the word, Scorpion is the only one who is a ninja, at least when he was alive. Now he is more a hellspawn than a ninja though.
Some people will argue that in MK lore, the Lin Kuei invented Ninjutsu, but as shown several times in the lore, the Lin Kuei do not want to be called ninjas. They are warriors and assassins, but not ninjas.
However, without being technical, Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Reptile, Noob, Smoke, Ermac, Rain, Sektor, Cyrax, Chameleon, Khameleon, Kitana, Mileena, Jade, Frost, Skarlet and even Tanya are referred to as ninjas. All of them, besides Tanya, wear masks and apparently that is enough to be called a ninja by some. Tanya is called a ninja because she wears something similar to the other female Edenians which are Kitana, Mileena and Jade, but she is in no way a ninja otherwise.
But people don't care, so... I will just drown in my own blood instead. ^^
The whole "Lin Kuei aren't ninjas" was always a HUGE stretch to me. If it looks like a duck, it acts like a duck... Odds are it's a duck. I really could care less about historical accuracy. The bad guys who wear ninjas cloths in action movies are ninjas too lol. I don't care about specifics, terms change with culture and time.
Jaded-Raven •06/13/2014 01:12 AM (UTC) •
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I don't care about specifics
I don't care about specifics
And that is where ignorance comes from.
The only female ninjas are Kitana, Mileena, and Jade, they have been trained for thousands of years in ninja fighting styles and they were deadly stealthy assassins that wore masks. If that's not a ninja then what the fuck is? Lol
One might say Frost is also a ninja because of her being in the Lin Kuei.
We don't know what Tanya was doing the entire time Edenia was occupied by Outworld. Just because Khameleon had Tanya's fighting style in MKA does not make Tanya a ninja. NRS was probably just like "oh what the hell throw Tanya's in there too."
Jaded-Raven •06/13/2014 01:21 AM (UTC) •
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wdm6789 Wrote:
The only female ninjas are Kitana, Mileena, and Jade, they have been trained for thousands of years in ninja fighting styles and they were deadly stealthy assassins that wore masks, if that's not a ninja then what the fuck is? Lol
The only female ninjas are Kitana, Mileena, and Jade, they have been trained for thousands of years in ninja fighting styles and they were deadly stealthy assassins that wore masks, if that's not a ninja then what the fuck is? Lol
Well, ninjas come from Feudal Japan. Kitana, Mileena and Jade are from Edenia/Outworld. So that's one reason.
stinky_thc_cloud •06/13/2014 01:22 AM (UTC) •
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
And that is where ignorance comes from.
stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:
I don't care about specifics
I don't care about specifics
And that is where ignorance comes from.
Yes the intolerance to ninjas will never end lol. You're on an MK message board not Tumblr.
Jaded-Raven •06/13/2014 01:26 AM (UTC) •
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stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:You're on an MK message board not Tumblr.
I don't know what that means, as I don't know how people are on Tumblr.
That said, since we ARE on an MK forum, with people on here being MK fans, it wouldn't be wrong of me to expect people on here to know some common MK knowledge... Maybe my expectations are just too high for you?
diirecthit •06/13/2014 01:35 AM (UTC) •
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Hopefully NOT a female ninja and hopefully NOT ermac. Reptile, Smoke or Noob would do.
NathanCorsini •06/13/2014 01:39 AM (UTC) •
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I'm hoping for Ermac and Rain! Wouldn't mind if Reptile is out this time
stinky_thc_cloud •06/13/2014 01:45 AM (UTC) •
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I don't know what that means, as I don't know how people are on Tumblr.
That said, since we ARE on an MK forum, with people on here being MK fans, it wouldn't be wrong of me to expect people on here to know some common MK knowledge... Maybe my expectations are just too high for you?
stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:You're on an MK message board not Tumblr.
I don't know what that means, as I don't know how people are on Tumblr.
That said, since we ARE on an MK forum, with people on here being MK fans, it wouldn't be wrong of me to expect people on here to know some common MK knowledge... Maybe my expectations are just too high for you?
OMG lol. You sounded even more like a Tumblr kid with the second post. When he means ninja, he means O.G. pallet swapped MK ninjas, that much is REALLY obvious. Not "specifically from feudal japan, you uniformed swine". Everyone here knows the MK lore, we wouldn't be here otherwise. Some of us are older than 12 so we know what Ninjas are too. I just don't correct people "umm actually, technically ... that's not a ninja" because at the end of the day, it looks like a ninja and that kind of behavior is really annoying.
Jaded-Raven •06/13/2014 01:53 AM (UTC) •
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stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:
OMG lol. You sounded even more like a Tumblr kid with the second post. When he means ninja, he means O.G. pallet swapped MK ninjas, that much is REALLY obvious. Not "specifically from feudal japan, you uniformed swine". Everyone here knows the MK lore, we wouldn't be here otherwise. Some of us are older than 12 so we know what Ninjas are too. I just don't correct people "umm actually, technically ... that's not a ninja" because at the end of the day, it looks like ninja and that kind of behavior is really annoying.
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I don't know what that means, as I don't know how people are on Tumblr.
That said, since we ARE on an MK forum, with people on here being MK fans, it wouldn't be wrong of me to expect people on here to know some common MK knowledge... Maybe my expectations are just too high for you?
stinky_thc_cloud Wrote:You're on an MK message board not Tumblr.
I don't know what that means, as I don't know how people are on Tumblr.
That said, since we ARE on an MK forum, with people on here being MK fans, it wouldn't be wrong of me to expect people on here to know some common MK knowledge... Maybe my expectations are just too high for you?
OMG lol. You sounded even more like a Tumblr kid with the second post. When he means ninja, he means O.G. pallet swapped MK ninjas, that much is REALLY obvious. Not "specifically from feudal japan, you uniformed swine". Everyone here knows the MK lore, we wouldn't be here otherwise. Some of us are older than 12 so we know what Ninjas are too. I just don't correct people "umm actually, technically ... that's not a ninja" because at the end of the day, it looks like ninja and that kind of behavior is really annoying.
If you read my first post about this, you'd see that I already addressed that people call those characters for ninjas and that I understand why that is. That doesn't change that they are technically wrong, but it's a common misconception.
And your opinion about my behaviour isn't really relevant. I find you annoying as well, but I doubt you're going to do anything to change that.
I'd like to see either Reptile or Ermac come into this. More so Reptile than Ermac. I mean, I know Reptile's story is boring, and that he really didn't do that much in the last game, but I feel like he might surprise us.
Plus, I can really see a gruesome looking Reptile with this game. Just the tone of it already, I can just picture what they might make Reptile look like.
Plus, I can really see a gruesome looking Reptile with this game. Just the tone of it already, I can just picture what they might make Reptile look like.
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I'm thinking we'll get Ermac and Reptile. If not Reptile, then a descendant, or someone like him. If they continue to devolve him, then he wouldn't be a ninja. So, taking him out of the "ninja" conversation, I'd say Ermac and Noob.
Tazer_Gunshot •06/13/2014 01:59 AM (UTC) •
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Returning Male "Ninja"
Ermac or Noob
Returning Female "Ninja"
Mileena, Jade or Khameleon
I'm in for a new female ninja, but, a real one. Nothing like what we have now.
Also wouldn't mind seeing Smoke return either as his Enera demon form or back as the only Cyborg. I have a feeling that we may see Sektor.
Ermac or Noob
Returning Female "Ninja"
Mileena, Jade or Khameleon
I'm in for a new female ninja, but, a real one. Nothing like what we have now.
Also wouldn't mind seeing Smoke return either as his Enera demon form or back as the only Cyborg. I have a feeling that we may see Sektor.
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