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09/11/2014 01:25 AM (UTC)
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DVorah Wrote:
Not really tho, because I want people to be stupid, fat, ugly and poor, so that I can be superior than all of them.

I just like to pride with my opinions because they are so damn good and always right! sleep


What?!!! So you want people to be stupid, fat, ugly and poor so then you will be superior to them? You have basically belittled yourself saying that others have to be stupid, fat, ugly and poor to be worse then you. That is insane. You have the biggest inferiority complex I have known.

No, I do not believe that you pride yourself with your opinions. You do it to annoy people so that they will give you attention. It is a facade. It is so transparent that everyone can see right through it. It is so bizarre that it is almost hysterically funny just like what you wrote about liking Sonya and now.
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09/11/2014 01:26 AM (UTC)
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diirecthit Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
In all honesty, it is all about appeal to me. I don't care what game they are from - if a character appeals to me, I want to see more of said character.

The MK1 characters just don't appeal to me, so I don't care much about them and would rather see other characters in future games than those.


I agree, why are some members saying the stale, underdeveloped characters like Mileena or Reptile or Baraka deserve to be in over MK1 characters due to the MK1 characters being underdeveloped, when they're JUST as underdeveloped as MK1 chars?


Can you not read? Because the MK1 characters have had the most game opportunities and are the story focal point characters each game.




No one is complaining that MK2 characters should have been placed in MK1.
Discussion is about the characters from MK1 and their highlighted roles throughout the series being shoved down our throats while repeating the same predictable appearance and story arcs.
The only reason MK2 is being brought into this is due to people (you) trying to deflect the situation upon the other characters of the series where the circumstances ARE NOT the same.


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09/11/2014 01:29 AM (UTC)
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mkmileena Wrote:
diirecthit Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
In all honesty, it is all about appeal to me. I don't care what game they are from - if a character appeals to me, I want to see more of said character.

The MK1 characters just don't appeal to me, so I don't care much about them and would rather see other characters in future games than those.


I agree, why are some members saying the stale, underdeveloped characters like Mileena or Reptile or Baraka deserve to be in over MK1 characters due to the MK1 characters being underdeveloped, when they're JUST as underdeveloped as MK1 chars?


Can you not read? Because the MK1 characters have had the most game opportunities and are the story focal point characters each game.




No one is complaining that MK2 characters should have been placed in MK1.
Discussion is about the characters from MK1 and their highlighted roles throughout the series being shoved down our throats while repeating the same predictable appearance and story arcs.
The only reason MK2 is being brought into this is due to people (you) trying to deflect the situation upon the other characters of the series where the circumstances ARE NOT the same.




You're still wrong, since characters like Kitana, and Jax, have had the same or more playable appearances than Kano, Sonya, and Cage. And even when they hype and promo characters like Mileena like there's no tomorrow, people still don't play her much, hence her low popularity in MK9.
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09/11/2014 01:39 AM (UTC)
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diirecthit Wrote:
mkmileena Wrote:
diirecthit Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
In all honesty, it is all about appeal to me. I don't care what game they are from - if a character appeals to me, I want to see more of said character.

The MK1 characters just don't appeal to me, so I don't care much about them and would rather see other characters in future games than those.


I agree, why are some members saying the stale, underdeveloped characters like Mileena or Reptile or Baraka deserve to be in over MK1 characters due to the MK1 characters being underdeveloped, when they're JUST as underdeveloped as MK1 chars?


Can you not read? Because the MK1 characters have had the most game opportunities and are the story focal point characters each game.




No one is complaining that MK2 characters should have been placed in MK1.
Discussion is about the characters from MK1 and their highlighted roles throughout the series being shoved down our throats while repeating the same predictable appearance and story arcs.
The only reason MK2 is being brought into this is due to people (you) trying to deflect the situation upon the other characters of the series where the circumstances ARE NOT the same.




You're still wrong, since characters like Kitana, and Jax, have had the same or more playable appearances than Kano, Sonya, and Cage.

And even when they hype and promo characters like Mileena like there's no tomorrow, people still don't play her much, hence her low popularity in MK9.


Kitana is the only post MK1 character that should be held to MK1 standards due to her having her own stand alone, protagonist story in MK2. Jax I hold to less standards due to him being a backup role to Sonya. (Same with Kung Lao).

Your 'Mileena' comment has zero to due with the topic. Keep deflecting tho.
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09/11/2014 01:50 AM (UTC)
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I repeat:

Why are you guys being so cruel to eachother? So what if you disagree on something... Mortal Kombat is just a game and the characters are fictional! There is no need to act like complete assholes to one another.

And yes, I know I can be an asshole too, but I am trying not to be, and you guys being total assholes aren't helping!

We are all MK fans here, right?
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TIL that tragic or "interesting" stories connected to a character = evolvement or development. :/


Um did you see me mention the word "evolved" for Reptile or Mileena specifically? Most of the evil characters in the game will hardly ever evolve coz their job so far has been to be the villain that you have to fight against. MK9 proved that. They have hardly left room for evolving their evil characters, except for maybe the ones that have turned good like Cyrax, Ermac, Smoke, Kuai Liang, etc.
Plus whether a character's story is interesting or not is based on one's personal taste. I believe I placed emphasis on the fact that "I" personally think that Mileena, Reptile, Kung Lao, Kitana, Kuai Liang are more interesting than Sonya, Liu Kang, Cage or Kano. Amazing that someone prefers a character with a tragic story to a hero that wins everything or a chick that has been chasing a guy for 10 years right? -.-'


lol

Like that one guy said, absolutely nobody is arguing anything you wrote.

Keep talking to yourself, though.
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09/11/2014 02:17 AM (UTC)
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mkmileena Wrote:
diirecthit Wrote:
mkmileena Wrote:
diirecthit Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
In all honesty, it is all about appeal to me. I don't care what game they are from - if a character appeals to me, I want to see more of said character.

The MK1 characters just don't appeal to me, so I don't care much about them and would rather see other characters in future games than those.


I agree, why are some members saying the stale, underdeveloped characters like Mileena or Reptile or Baraka deserve to be in over MK1 characters due to the MK1 characters being underdeveloped, when they're JUST as underdeveloped as MK1 chars?


Can you not read? Because the MK1 characters have had the most game opportunities and are the story focal point characters each game.




No one is complaining that MK2 characters should have been placed in MK1.
Discussion is about the characters from MK1 and their highlighted roles throughout the series being shoved down our throats while repeating the same predictable appearance and story arcs.
The only reason MK2 is being brought into this is due to people (you) trying to deflect the situation upon the other characters of the series where the circumstances ARE NOT the same.




You're still wrong, since characters like Kitana, and Jax, have had the same or more playable appearances than Kano, Sonya, and Cage.

And even when they hype and promo characters like Mileena like there's no tomorrow, people still don't play her much, hence her low popularity in MK9.


Kitana is the only post MK1 character that should be held to MK1 standards due to her having her own stand alone, protagonist story in MK2. Jax I hold to less standards due to him being a backup role to Sonya. (Same with Kung Lao).

Your 'Mileena' comment has zero to due with the topic. Keep deflecting tho.


Not only is Jax not a backup role to Sonya, since they work together, and, i believe, Jax has been in more games (MK2, MK3, MK4, MKDA, MKD(U), MKA, MKDC & MK9 vs Sonya's MK, MK3, MK4, MKDA, MKA, MKDC, MK9) but you're also completely missing my point.

What i'm saying is that NRS hold the MK1 characters to higher standards because, not only they're recognizable (like Mileena), but people also play them a lot (unlike Mileena, according to MK9's official stats). Drag me though.
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09/11/2014 02:32 AM (UTC)
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diirecthit Wrote:
Not only is Jax not a backup role to Sonya, since they work together, and, i believe, Jax has been in more games (MK2, MK3, MK4, MKDA, MKD(U), MKA, MKDC & MK9 vs Sonya's MK, MK3, MK4, MKDA, MKA, MKDC, MK9) but you're also completely missing my point.

What i'm saying is that NRS hold the MK1 characters to higher standards because, not only they're recognizable (like Mileena), but people also play them a lot (unlike Mileena, according to MK9's official stats). Drag me though.


Jax was introduced into the series as a plot revolving around Sonya. Back up.


Exactly my point as well that the MK1 cast are held to higher standards as they will always be favored, so why are you even mentioning Mileena?!?
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09/11/2014 02:36 AM (UTC)
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You're saying the MK1 cast is held to higher standards than the rest of the characters, but why have Jax, and Kitana been in more MKs than Kano, Sonya, and Cage? They've been in MK2, 3, 4(G), DA, D(U), A, DC & 9.
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09/11/2014 02:38 AM (UTC)
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Mileena in MK9 was hit by having awful gameplay. If she had gameplay as fun and accessible as Kitana, it would have been an entirely different picture.
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09/11/2014 02:39 AM (UTC)
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diirecthit Wrote:
You're saying the MK1 cast is held to higher standards than the rest of the characters, but why have Jax, and Kitana been in more MKs than Kano, Sonya, and Cage? They've been in MK2, 3, 4(G), DA, D(U), A, DC & 9.


Are you questioning the iconicness and popularity of the MK1 characters?
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09/11/2014 02:43 AM (UTC)
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The only additional game they were included in is MKU, which is just a re-release of MKD that just used their recycled models from DA with no changes..

I personally dont even consider it a stand alone game.

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09/11/2014 02:46 AM (UTC)
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MK Unchained is to MKD what UMK3 is to MK3, and MK Gold is to MK4. Just an updated version. Not a stand-alone game.
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09/11/2014 02:48 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
MK Unchained is to MKD what UMK3 is to MK3, and MK Gold is to MK4. Just an updated version. Not a stand-alone game.


Not even that. At least the characters in UMK3 and MKG received new models, updated costumes, etc.
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09/11/2014 02:50 AM (UTC)
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mkmileena Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
MK Unchained is to MKD what UMK3 is to MK3, and MK Gold is to MK4. Just an updated version. Not a stand-alone game.


Not even that. At least the characters in UMK3 and MKG received new models, updated costumes, etc.


Well, the characters in MKDA through MKA were reused character models.
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09/11/2014 02:54 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mkmileena Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
MK Unchained is to MKD what UMK3 is to MK3, and MK Gold is to MK4. Just an updated version. Not a stand-alone game.


Not even that. At least the characters in UMK3 and MKG received new models, updated costumes, etc.


Well, the characters in MKDA through MKA were reused character models.



I know that. I'm only speaking in terms three games you mentioned. (MKA also had revamped MK4 characters, new characters, etc)
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09/11/2014 03:03 AM (UTC)
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mkmileena Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mkmileena Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
MK Unchained is to MKD what UMK3 is to MK3, and MK Gold is to MK4. Just an updated version. Not a stand-alone game.


Not even that. At least the characters in UMK3 and MKG received new models, updated costumes, etc.


Well, the characters in MKDA through MKA were reused character models.



I know that. I'm only speaking in terms three games you mentioned.
(MKA also had revamped MK4 characters, new characters, etc)


Could you imagine MKA having MK4 character models in it for Reiko, Kai, Shinnok and Jarek? XD

They needed updated character models. As Sheeva, Kintaro and Rain needed all new, as they didn't have any proper 3D models (I wouldn't count their Konquest models for proper).
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09/11/2014 03:03 AM (UTC)
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RedSumac Wrote:
Mileena in MK9 was hit by having awful gameplay. If she had gameplay as fun and accessible as Kitana, it would have been an entirely different picture.


Kitana was the worst character in MKDA, str8 up bottom tier. Why was she still popular at the time?
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09/11/2014 03:03 AM (UTC)
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mkmileena Wrote:
I was going to reply and fact prove everything you said here wrong, but your post is SO FUCKING stupid and inaccurate, I don't want to get worked up about such out of context, foolish accusations and make this a Mileena topic.

#icant


If you can chill out with the irrational anger, I'd actually really like to hear what your counterargument would've been. Perhaps in a PM since you don't want to derail the thread?
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09/11/2014 03:06 AM (UTC)
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diirecthit Wrote:
RedSumac Wrote:
Mileena in MK9 was hit by having awful gameplay. If she had gameplay as fun and accessible as Kitana, it would have been an entirely different picture.


Kitana was the worst character in MKDA, str8 up bottom tier. Why was she still popular at the time?


I loved Kitana in MKDA. She was my main.

Tiers aren't everything.
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09/11/2014 03:16 AM (UTC)
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diirecthit Wrote:
Kitana was the worst character in MKDA, str8 up bottom tier. Why was she still popular at the time?

Yeah, MKDA was such famous tournament discipline and everybdoy really cared about tiers...no, wait...it wasn't and nobody cared.

Kitana was always more popular than Mileena, until MK-Team started to promote toothygirl as the new postergirl for the series since MKD. MKDA is irrelevant here, because Kitana was and still to some degree is, one of the main MK girls, alongside with Sonya (thanks to multiple mdeia appearances). Her popularity couldn't be crushed by her being low tier in the game, where nobody give a shit about tiers and tournament viability.

Besides, I don't see what was wrong with her gameplay. She was awesome in MKDA. One of my best characters.
On the other hand I don't give a single fuck about tourney snobs and their opinions, outside of promoting the game through word of mouth.
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09/11/2014 03:22 AM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
diirecthit Wrote:
RedSumac Wrote:
Mileena in MK9 was hit by having awful gameplay. If she had gameplay as fun and accessible as Kitana, it would have been an entirely different picture.


Kitana was the worst character in MKDA, str8 up bottom tier. Why was she still popular at the time?


I loved Kitana in MKDA. She was my main.

Tiers aren't everything.


I didn't bring up tiers. You tried it.
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09/11/2014 03:24 AM (UTC)
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Besides, I don't see what was wrong with her gameplay. She was awesome in MKDA. One of my best characters.
On the other hand I don't give a single fuck about tourney snobs and their opinions, outside of promoting the game through word of mouth.


So why did you bring up tiers? Mileena wasn't played much and that had nothing to do with tiers, just accept it. Kabal was top tier and he wasn't even top 10 in character usage according to official stats.
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09/11/2014 03:25 AM (UTC)
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diirecthit Wrote:
Jaded-Raven Wrote:
diirecthit Wrote:
RedSumac Wrote:
Mileena in MK9 was hit by having awful gameplay. If she had gameplay as fun and accessible as Kitana, it would have been an entirely different picture.


Kitana was the worst character in MKDA, str8 up bottom tier. Why was she still popular at the time?


I loved Kitana in MKDA. She was my main.

Tiers aren't everything.


I didn't bring up tiers. You tried it.


... Are you for real? You just said that she was "str8" up bottom tier. So yes, you did bring up tiers.

Why is it so hard for you to be honest and at least try to be nice? It's alright for you to have your opinion, but you don't need to attack everyone who don't agree with you.

Also... Mileena stands as #10 on list of most played characters in MK9:

http://www.eventhubs.com/stats/mk9/
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09/11/2014 03:32 AM (UTC)
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mkmileena Wrote:
I was going to reply and fact prove everything you said here wrong, but your post is SO FUCKING stupid and inaccurate, I don't want to get worked up about such out of context, foolish accusations and make this a Mileena topic.

#icant


If you can chill out with the irrational anger, I'd actually really like to hear what your counterargument would've been. Perhaps in a PM since you don't want to derail the thread?


First, I'm not angry.

Based on your original posts and disregarding story details and generalizing outcomes in a way that best suites your idea of things, I can already tell any evidence presented towards you will likely be returned with the same nonsensical manner of your initial post. And quite honestly I have no patience for such ridiculous arguments.



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