Nephrite Wrote:
That would be too similar to the whole Dark Raiden thing.

I'd like to see Fujin continue as a good guy, but I don't want him to be as friendly or as close to the Earthrealm heroes as Raiden has been. I want Fujin too be stern and all about business.

Ninja_Mime Wrote:


How I imagined post-Armageddon before the reboot was to basically have Fujin taking over Raiden's role and have Raiden become an evil boss character. It would be good if there was an obvious difference between their leadership too, like you said. It's a shame he was left out of Deadly Alliance and Deception, he's a cool character that I want to see more involved in the story.

My vote went to Onaga though.

Jaded-Raven Wrote:


Well,what I think,the way MK Deception explained,you might know it J-R,that it used to be only the One Being and the Elder Gods. The One Being was drawing the power or the essence of the Elder Gods (can't recall precisely),but then the Elder Gods divided the One Being into the realms we know nowadays as Earthrealm,Outworld,Edenia,Chaosrealm,Orderrealm and Netherrealm. So to speak,the One Being is the origin of the all realms.

Since the One Being's conciousness still was present throughout the time and it ALWAYS wanted to unite to its former self,I guess,ALL warlords or rulers who wanted to conquer the realms and add them to their dominion WERE under the One Being's influence. This,as you stated, included Shao Kahn and Onaga.

And I think it might even be Shinnok as well,since he was banned from the Pantheon of Elder Gods and was sent to Netherrealm. His motivations were always to get revenge on Elder Gods,but ALSO to conquer the realms. So I guess,he MIGHT have been influenced by the One Being as well,since he wasn't Elder God anymore.

And ALSO,I think,some kind of influence might have been on Raiden as well,since after his sacrifice he turned dark. In MK Deception it is stated that Shao Kahn used to be Protector of Outworld and advisor to Onaga and wasn't always evil,but then SOMETHING happened,he turned evil and poisoned Onaga and became ruler himself. Similar to Raiden's story,isn't it?

But to be honest,Raiden's only motivation is that he will not allow anybody put Earth in danger anymore. Even in MK Armageddon ending,he went to extreme and got rid of of all the remaining realms so no one can touch Earth,but as far as I am concerned,this is STILL making the GOAL of the One Being into reality.

So yeah,I think, Shao Kahn,Onaga,Shinnok and Raiden are the candidates for your question.

Ninja_Mime Wrote:
It's a shame he was left out of Deadly Alliance and Deception, he's a cool character that I want to see more involved in the story.

Ninja_Mime Wrote:
My vote went to Onaga though.

(Erik) Wrote:
Fujin because seniority.

Riyakou Wrote:


Fujin has no seniority.

Let's try another reason. Maybe, good story, good gameplay?

Ninja_Mime Wrote:
How I imagined post-Armageddon before the reboot was to basically have Fujin taking over Raiden's role and have Raiden become an evil boss character. It would be good if there was an obvious difference between their leadership too, like you said.

Jaded-Raven Wrote:


Actually, he does have seniority (why do I always read this as seniorita?), in the sense that he appeared in an MK game before Onaga did.

Jaded-Raven Wrote:


You are making some really good points there which make sense as well.
This One Being really knows how to manipulate and corrupt great rulers who have the power to merge the realms. Then the question is, has it only been Onaga and Shao Kahn who's been inflicted by this or are some of the other characters also just pawns to this One Being?

Also, about the amulet, I just think that it represents the key to power and that power could be used for many various things. Why should an item only be used for one thing only, especially one that is supposed to be so powerful? It only makes sense that it has various functions which can be used, and has been used, for many different things. That's why there were gods protecting it.

Jaded-Raven Wrote:
I have always had some unanswered questions in the back of my head when it comes to Onaga. One of them is... Is Onaga really all that bad? Is he really evil? Or does he just want to take back what is rightfully his?

All we know about Onaga is that he was the rightful ruler of Outworld who was backstabbed by Shao Kahn who took his place and then started conquering realms to merge with Outworld. Onaga then returned after many millenia with the purpose of taking back Outworld.

Sure, his methods are questionable. Who took advantage of the poor schmuck Shujinko who gathered the Kamidogu for him, but that's about it. I know it is not very Mortal Kombat-like, but they could have handled this problem through diplomacy, putting Onaga back on the throne of Outworld and negotiate to a peace treaty. I never saw Onaga as evil, just a very butt-hurt man and it is completely understandable why he would be. Shao Kahn fucked him over!

Too bad he was just translated into another "evil ruler" boss character in the games. He could have been the most badass replacement for Shao Kahn, but the MK team never really gave him the chance to show it. Just like many other next-gen MK characters, he never showed his full potential, not to mention his gameplay was very lacking.

zerosebaz Wrote:



Just to clarify, the reason why Onaga's army was controlled by the amulet was a spell Shang Tsung made when transfering the souls of the warriors to the mummified soldiers making them obey to the one who had the amulet, but it was not a function of the amulet by itself.

Riyakou Wrote:


I actually read this through zerosebaz's post but it caught my eye nonetheless.

Seeing as how it was stated that Outworld was a peaceful and orderly place when Onaga ruled, I doubt he was ever evil. Still, I do agree that his choice of actions were quite odd. I also agree that NRS simply made him just another evil boss, and they could have easily avoided it.

Diplomacy has been used before in MK, such as the treaty Kitana created to form a truce between the Shokans and the Centaurians for the sake of Outworld's survival, as shown in Kung Lao's ending in MKGold. Also in this ending, it shed light on Goro's humility as a warrior, stating how Great Kung Lao, who he killed in battle, was himself a great and noble warrior, eventually ending in Giro and Kung Lao's settlement of peace.

It was that ending that led to my liking Goro as much as I do, and it is that ending that shows it is possible for NRS to mold Onaga into the great ruler he used to be. Hopefully they will.

Riyakou Wrote:


I actually read this through zerosebaz's post but it caught my eye nonetheless.

Seeing as how it was stated that Outworld was a peaceful and orderly place when Onaga ruled, I doubt he was ever evil. Still, I do agree that his choice of actions were quite odd. I also agree that NRS simply made him just another evil boss, and they could have easily avoided it.

Diplomacy has been used before in MK, such as the treaty Kitana created to form a truce between the Shokans and the Centaurians for the sake of Outworld's survival, as shown in Kung Lao's ending in MKGold. Also in this ending, it shed light on Goro's humility as a warrior, stating how Great Kung Lao, who he killed in battle, was himself a great and noble warrior, eventually ending in Giro and Kung Lao's settlement of peace.

It was that ending that led to my liking Goro as much as I do, and it is that ending that shows it is possible for NRS to mold Onaga into the great ruler he used to be. Hopefully they will.

Jaded-Raven Wrote:
You are making some really good points there which make sense as well.
This One Being really knows how to manipulate and corrupt great rulers who have the power to merge the realms. Then the question is, has it only been Onaga and Shao Kahn who's been inflicted by this or are some of the other characters also just pawns to this One Being?