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legoslayer10
07/28/2012 03:15 PM (UTC)
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AJBlue Wrote:
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Even if he was willing to overlook his own murder (NBD right?), he lost his WIFE, young SON and entire clan...
get over it and he has nothing to be really mad about.
Nothing to be mad about? If somebody massacred everybody close to you, would you be angry or just sit around on the couch and say "well, now what do I do?" I would be pretty angry if somebody killed my family and friends, and wouldn't want their killer to just get off clean. It's just a little odd to hear that Scorpion has nothing to be angry about. He was lead to believe Sub-Zero killed his family and clan by Quan Chi, then he got angry at Quan Chi for decieving him and the latter. I'd be pretty pissed after that stuff happened to me.


Might I suggest you re-read what Shadow Preacher wrote. You're essentially saying the same thing.
Oh, thank you, sir. My sincerest apologies to ShadowPreacher, I'm sorry, as I misread the post. And a thaks to you, AJBlue, for pointing that out.
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ShadowPreacher
07/28/2012 03:26 PM (UTC)
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legoslayer- No biggie man! No harm no foul.

J-R: I didn't call anybody names. I said IF you feel that way, you're a hypocrite. Now, if you don't, as you claim, you have no reason to be mad as what I'm saying doesn't apply to you. Which of course begs the question why you feel so compelled to respond, but we'll just take your word for it. wink

And Sub-Zero and Scorpion are equally "shoved down our throats" and always have been. The fact you like Sub and not Scorp does not change this. Reality does not re-align itself to match with our agendas, sorry.

Oh wait apparently Scorpion was on a loading screen 15 years ago. Well shit, there goes my whole arguement! Scorpion, Scorpion everywhere! Why can't he just go away and leave me alone? sad

SRS BUSINESS!!
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Jaded-Raven
07/28/2012 03:32 PM (UTC)
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ShadowPreacher Wrote:
legoslayer- No biggie man! No harm no foul.

J-R: I didn't call anybody names. I said IF you feel that way, you're a hypocrite. Now, if you don't, as you claim, you have no reason to be mad as what I'm saying doesn't apply to you. Which of course begs the question why you feel so compelled to respond, but we'll just take your word for it. wink


When someone writes to me, I prefer to respond. I missread though, as I did think you were calling me a hypocrite, but when reading through again, I can see you weren't directly calling me it. When you said "it doesn't go deeper than them being poster boys", I thought you meant that was how MY opinion was which isn't the case.
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07/28/2012 03:42 PM (UTC)
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Stop attacking people's opinions so much. K? Thx. You will never be more than 50% right. This isnt to a specific person. Its blanketed.
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RedSumac
07/28/2012 03:43 PM (UTC)
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Ermac.

I simply like him better than Noob-Saibot. And after MK9 he has a tremendous story potential, which coupled with his awesome costumes and gameplay make him one of the best characters in the series.
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07/28/2012 04:15 PM (UTC)
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This NOOB will SMOKE you! Go Noob!
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legoslayer10
07/28/2012 04:32 PM (UTC)
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annilation Wrote:
This NOOB will SMOKE you! Go Noob!
You just reminded me- is Smoke's mist-form (MKA primary Costume, MKD Alt.) a human, or is tht the cyborg-demon?
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Jaded-Raven
07/28/2012 04:36 PM (UTC)
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legoslayer10 Wrote:
annilation Wrote:
This NOOB will SMOKE you! Go Noob!
You just reminded me- is Smoke's mist-form (MKA primary Costume, MKD Alt.) a human, or is tht the cyborg-demon?


Smoke's elemental form in MKD-MKA is a result of nanotechnology forming into looking like he is of pure smoke. That would be his cyborg-demon form, yes. ^^
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07/28/2012 05:16 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
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Jaded-Raven, it really doesn't "go deeper" than them both being poster boys, much as you would love to spin it.

I don't care who likes who, everyone has their own opinion and should like and dislike whoever they want. It's the reasons for dislike I take issue with. And the fact is this:

If someone dislikes Scorpion explicitly because he is popular or shoved down our throats, or even say, actively campaigns against him? Constantly? And then turns around and votes for Sub-Zero,who is equally popular and shoved down our throats? Then that person is being a hypocrite. But hey if you're cool with being a hypocrite, more power to you.

And spare me the whole "but but REVENGE....character development....it's different...but but". No. If your reason for Scorp dislike is his popularity? Hypocrite.


Well, that's not MY reason for disliking him. Scorpion's popularity doesn't bother me, just like Sub-Zero's popularity doesn't bother me. And Nephrite has already explained how much more Scorpion is "shoved down our throats" than Sub-Zero, so if people dislike Scorpion more because of that, I understand. That's not my issue with him though. I don't expect for you to WANT to understand that, because if you can find some way to call people personal names by ignoring their arguements, then you usually seize it. I guess it can't be helped.

...

Anyways, I am voting for Ermac. ^^


Well when it comes to exposure....Sub-Zero got a full game of exposure.So ......yeah..........

But on the subject at hand.I refuse to vote for characters that i don't think are very good.Guess i'll have to wait to see who's in the next round. glasses tongue grin
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legoslayer10
07/28/2012 05:23 PM (UTC)
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Okay, just making sure. So then...
If I were working on sprites for Noob-Smoke...
Would i want to uses Cyber Ninja or Cyber Demon, In your opinion?
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07/28/2012 05:24 PM (UTC)
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Yeah! Ermac's in the final 3!! WOOOHOOO!!!! I love Ermac!

I was really surprised to see that he's tied again with another. More specifically, it's Ermac vs three people who were in the Lin Quei.

Once again, go Ermac!
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07/28/2012 05:58 PM (UTC)
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So how interesting would it be to have the 2 brothers face each other in the final?
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07/28/2012 06:09 PM (UTC)
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@JR dude your're talking to a fan that's been around since MK1. I know the story but clearly the story doesn't explain everything so we have to interpret things logically.

Your not fucking understanding me. Raiden does not have jurisdiction over the neatherrealm, Raiden does not have jurisdiction over the neatherrealm, Raiden does not have jurisdiction over the neatherrealm, how many times do I have to say that. Yet you still wana debate so I have to throw other ideas in. BUT YOU STILL WANA ARGUE THAT RAIDEN CAN BRING SCORPION BACK TO LIFE. No the fuck he cant and if he could why the fuck would he.

He said that if scorpion spared sub zero's life he would request the elder gods to return the shira ryu to the land of the living. he didnt say "I would bring them back" he said "I would ask the elder gods to bring them back" That's not a statement it's a muthafukin quote and it's proof on top of proof that raiden can't revive scorpion.
I vote Bi-Han but Ermac is still that guyglasses
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07/28/2012 06:16 PM (UTC)
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Ermac : We are many, you are but one.
*Noob condrupts another him*
Noob : Oh really...
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Jaded-Raven
07/28/2012 06:53 PM (UTC)
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corayfor Wrote:
@JR dude your're talking to a fan that's been around since MK1. I know the story but clearly the story doesn't explain everything so we have to interpret things logically.

Your not fucking understanding me. Raiden does not have jurisdiction over the neatherrealm, Raiden does not have jurisdiction over the neatherrealm, Raiden does not have jurisdiction over the neatherrealm, how many times do I have to say that. Yet you still wana debate so I have to throw other ideas in. BUT YOU STILL WANA ARGUE THAT RAIDEN CAN BRING SCORPION BACK TO LIFE. No the fuck he cant and if he could why the fuck would he.

He said that if scorpion spared sub zero's life he would request the elder gods to return the shira ryu to the land of the living. he didnt say "I would bring them back" he said "I would ask the elder gods to bring them back" That's not a statement it's a muthafukin quote and it's proof on top of proof that raiden can't revive scorpion.

I vote Bi-Han but Ermac is still that guyglasses


I have not ONCE said Raiden is the one with the power to resurrect Scorpion. It seems like YOU are the one who doesn't understand ME.

I said that Raiden promised Scorpion to TALK to the Elder Gods about bringing his family and clan back to life. I NEVER said that Raiden himself could bring them back. So there's no need to get all worked up about that.

Also, please make note that just because you interpret something in one way it doesn't make it the RIGHT way. People interpret things differently. And when there's no official proof of it, then it is just an opinion, a statement.
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07/28/2012 07:25 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven wrote:
And how do you know Raiden wouldn't help Scorpion? You have nothing to back up that argument

@JR
You're the guy who jumped the gun and said that I had no proof that Raiden couldn't bring scorpion back. AAAANNT WRONG!!! Well I just proved my point with quotes from Raiden in MK9. My opinion and statements all revolve around my PROOF AND QUOTES, which can easily be found in Raiden's dialogue with Bi-Han in MK:Mythologies and also his dialogue with Hanzo in MK9.
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07/28/2012 07:30 PM (UTC)
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corayfor Wrote:
Jaded-Raven wrote:
And how do you know Raiden wouldn't help Scorpion? You have nothing to back up that argument

@JR
You're the guy who jumped the gun and said that I had no proof that Raiden couldn't bring scorpion back. AAAANNT WRONG!!! Well I just proved my point with quotes from Raiden in MK9. My opinion and statements all revolve around my PROOF AND QUOTES, which can easily be found in Raiden's dialogue with Bi-Han in MK:Mythologies and also his dialogue with Hanzo in MK9.


Helping does not equal having to resurrect them himself. He is helping by asking the Elder Gods, requesting for THEM to resurrect Scorpion's family and clan.

Until you can find an official statement or a quote saying "The Elder Gods will not resurrect Scorpion's family and clan" or something alike, then it is all just speculation.

You have put forth your theory, but that's all it is.
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07/28/2012 07:53 PM (UTC)
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Alright well, on to the current poll....

I vote Ermac, he's my favorite. I also think that he's one of the most improved on characters in the series so far. His recent appearance is awesome, his movelist is cool although it could have used a little bit of work, and his alternate costume just has 'badass' written all over it.

I guess I'm going to talk more about his movelist. All of his combos are pretty easy (if I can perform them without messing up, they have to be easy. admittedly, I suck), but I noticed that they leave a good deal of room for switching it up/adding different moves because you can combo Force Lift off like half of his style moves and that's pretty cool. I agree that the range for Force Lift and Force Push are pretty wide, but the range for Cannonball Slam (x-ray), Mind Over Splatter, and Pest Control are really sort of ridiculously tight. It pretty much makes up for it. You have to be somewhat experienced with him to pull those off in the correct range. Force Push also does a really stupidly large amount of damage (and I can say that for a couple of Noob's moves and CSZ's splits attack (which is irrelevant) ) whereas I don't think Force Lift does enough. I don't think any of the weird things in his moveset warrant a damage nerf, especially since his combos would be pretty low-damage if his specials were nerfed.

I think I talked about why I don't like Noob earlier so I don't even feel like typing much about him. His moveset, IMO, is pretty awesome, but leaves so much room for spamming. He has a lot of pretty cool combos that require skill to pull off, but he's the most spammable and most annoying character to fight against in the entire game (imo again). The teleport slam thing is extremely annoying, especially when 'noobs' at the game sit there and use it over and over again. It's hard to stop blocking long enough to even land a hit, especially online with our friend, lag.

Anyway, go forth to your inevitable conclusion, poll, because I'm 100% sure Noob is going to take this.
Edit: To my surprise I appear to be wrong.
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Jaded-Raven
07/28/2012 08:01 PM (UTC)
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mintpuff Wrote:

Anyway, go forth to your inevitable conclusion, poll, because I'm 100% sure Noob is going to take this.


When I read this post of yours, the vote-off was at 50/50.
As I write this, Ermac is in the lead with 51.2%.

I think Ermac still has a chance of winning, so don't give up just yet. ;)
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07/28/2012 08:08 PM (UTC)
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:
mintpuff Wrote:

Anyway, go forth to your inevitable conclusion, poll, because I'm 100% sure Noob is going to take this.


When I read this post of yours, the vote-off was at 50/50.
As I write this, Ermac is in the lead with 51.2%.

I think Ermac still has a chance of winning, so don't give up just yet. ;)


Ha, maybe he does...
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07/28/2012 08:08 PM (UTC)
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mintpuff Wrote:
Alright well, on to the current poll....

I vote Ermac, he's my favorite. I also think that he's one of the most improved on characters in the series so far. His recent appearance is awesome, his movelist is cool although it could have used a little bit of work, and his alternate costume just has 'badass' written all over it.

I guess I'm going to talk more about his movelist. All of his combos are pretty easy (if I can perform them without messing up, they have to be easy. admittedly, I suck), but I noticed that they leave a good deal of room for switching it up/adding different moves because you can combo Force Lift off like half of his style moves and that's pretty cool. I agree that the range for Force Lift and Force Push are pretty wide, but the range for Cannonball Slam (x-ray), Mind Over Splatter, and Pest Control are really sort of ridiculously tight. It pretty much makes up for it. You have to be somewhat experienced with him to pull those off in the correct range. Force Push also does a really stupidly large amount of damage (and I can say that for a couple of Noob's moves and CSZ's splits attack (which is irrelevant) ) whereas I don't think Force Lift does enough. I don't think any of the weird things in his moveset warrant a damage nerf, especially since his combos would be pretty low-damage if his specials were nerfed.

I think I talked about why I don't like Noob earlier so I don't even feel like typing much about him. His moveset, IMO, is pretty awesome, but leaves so much room for spamming. He has a lot of pretty cool combos that require skill to pull off, but he's the most spammable and most annoying character to fight against in the entire game (imo again). The teleport slam thing is extremely annoying, especially when 'noobs' at the game sit there and use it over and over again. It's hard to stop blocking long enough to even land a hit, especially online with our friend, lag.

Anyway, go forth to your inevitable conclusion, poll, because I'm 100% sure Noob is going to take this.
Don't count the chickens before they're hatched. The poll has reached 50-50 plenty of times, and seems to have an unpredictable outcome at this point. But I want Ermac to win this. He has just always appealed to me- such a deep character, so many possibilities...
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07/28/2012 08:14 PM (UTC)
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legoslayer10 Wrote:
mintpuff Wrote:
Alright well, on to the current poll....

I vote Ermac, he's my favorite. I also think that he's one of the most improved on characters in the series so far. His recent appearance is awesome, his movelist is cool although it could have used a little bit of work, and his alternate costume just has 'badass' written all over it.

I guess I'm going to talk more about his movelist. All of his combos are pretty easy (if I can perform them without messing up, they have to be easy. admittedly, I suck), but I noticed that they leave a good deal of room for switching it up/adding different moves because you can combo Force Lift off like half of his style moves and that's pretty cool. I agree that the range for Force Lift and Force Push are pretty wide, but the range for Cannonball Slam (x-ray), Mind Over Splatter, and Pest Control are really sort of ridiculously tight. It pretty much makes up for it. You have to be somewhat experienced with him to pull those off in the correct range. Force Push also does a really stupidly large amount of damage (and I can say that for a couple of Noob's moves and CSZ's splits attack (which is irrelevant) ) whereas I don't think Force Lift does enough. I don't think any of the weird things in his moveset warrant a damage nerf, especially since his combos would be pretty low-damage if his specials were nerfed.

I think I talked about why I don't like Noob earlier so I don't even feel like typing much about him. His moveset, IMO, is pretty awesome, but leaves so much room for spamming. He has a lot of pretty cool combos that require skill to pull off, but he's the most spammable and most annoying character to fight against in the entire game (imo again). The teleport slam thing is extremely annoying, especially when 'noobs' at the game sit there and use it over and over again. It's hard to stop blocking long enough to even land a hit, especially online with our friend, lag.

Anyway, go forth to your inevitable conclusion, poll, because I'm 100% sure Noob is going to take this.
Don't count the chickens before they're hatched. The poll has reached 50-50 plenty of times, and seems to have an unpredictable outcome at this point. But I want Ermac to win this. He has just always appealed to me- such a deep character, so many possibilities...


That we can agree on. ^^
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07/28/2012 08:15 PM (UTC)
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legoslayer10 Wrote:
mintpuff Wrote:
Alright well, on to the current poll....

I vote Ermac, he's my favorite. I also think that he's one of the most improved on characters in the series so far. His recent appearance is awesome, his movelist is cool although it could have used a little bit of work, and his alternate costume just has 'badass' written all over it.

I guess I'm going to talk more about his movelist. All of his combos are pretty easy (if I can perform them without messing up, they have to be easy. admittedly, I suck), but I noticed that they leave a good deal of room for switching it up/adding different moves because you can combo Force Lift off like half of his style moves and that's pretty cool. I agree that the range for Force Lift and Force Push are pretty wide, but the range for Cannonball Slam (x-ray), Mind Over Splatter, and Pest Control are really sort of ridiculously tight. It pretty much makes up for it. You have to be somewhat experienced with him to pull those off in the correct range. Force Push also does a really stupidly large amount of damage (and I can say that for a couple of Noob's moves and CSZ's splits attack (which is irrelevant) ) whereas I don't think Force Lift does enough. I don't think any of the weird things in his moveset warrant a damage nerf, especially since his combos would be pretty low-damage if his specials were nerfed.

I think I talked about why I don't like Noob earlier so I don't even feel like typing much about him. His moveset, IMO, is pretty awesome, but leaves so much room for spamming. He has a lot of pretty cool combos that require skill to pull off, but he's the most spammable and most annoying character to fight against in the entire game (imo again). The teleport slam thing is extremely annoying, especially when 'noobs' at the game sit there and use it over and over again. It's hard to stop blocking long enough to even land a hit, especially online with our friend, lag.

Anyway, go forth to your inevitable conclusion, poll, because I'm 100% sure Noob is going to take this.
Don't count the chickens before they're hatched. The poll has reached 50-50 plenty of times, and seems to have an unpredictable outcome at this point. But I want Ermac to win this. He has just always appealed to me- such a deep character, so many possibilities...


Hopefully he does. I didn't really think Ermac had a large fanbase at all. Apparently he does!

it'd be so cool to have him in the finals

I really want him to win too but I just didn't see it happening against Noob.
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legoslayer10
07/28/2012 08:26 PM (UTC)
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And he just took the lead! Ermac is my new catch for this contest since Noob just dropped my dude, so Ermac is going to be (I'm sorry, I have too, I can't resist) my Scorpion! Vengeance is mine!
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07/28/2012 08:30 PM (UTC)
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@JR
SEE I KNEW IT! YOU DIDN'T GET MY POST FROM THE JUMP. You and Mintpuff were callin scorpion out on being a mindless idiot for serving quan chi. My post simply defended HIM by saying that quan chi was all he had, the only person that could help him get revenge. I wasn't even talking about who could bring him or his clan back to life, dude. The subject was "who is going to help me get even?". Raiden sure in the fuck wasn't. For one they were located in different realms, but quan chi was the perfect guy to approach for a number of reasons.
Then here you go "You don't have proof that Raiden wouldn't help Scorpion" No you dnt understand my post go read it. this may be the 1st time that the character that I voted for lost. Doesn't matter since error macro is a close favorite. I'm happy either way. They are both a tag team favorite. Ermac has impressively grown over the years. Didn't think he would do so well against Bi-Han honestly. GO ERMAC!!! GO NOOB!!!
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