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MONEY SHOT! •12/12/2010 03:52 AM (UTC) •
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Trilogy is canon.
TheBigCityToilet Wrote:
I like Raiden and all, but he didn't do anything special till Deception. Hell, he isn't even IN MK3
I like Raiden and all, but he didn't do anything special till Deception. Hell, he isn't even IN MK3
Trilogy is canon.
Are you sure about that? I thought Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 was what was canon from that set of games(MK3/UMK3/MKT).
sevendesigns •12/12/2010 03:53 AM (UTC) •
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This is awesome.
And Kratos is better than a lot of, well, pretty much majority of the characters introduced once MK went 3D.
How can this be bad news?
I HIGHLY doubt creating Kratos for MK took them away from the real MK characters, and i'm sure the God of War creators/artists helped a great deal.
And Kratos is better than a lot of, well, pretty much majority of the characters introduced once MK went 3D.
How can this be bad news?
I HIGHLY doubt creating Kratos for MK took them away from the real MK characters, and i'm sure the God of War creators/artists helped a great deal.
RazorsEdge701 •12/12/2010 03:53 AM (UTC) •
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AlexanderLuthor,Jr Wrote:
Are you sure about that? I thought Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 was what was canon from that set of games(MK3/UMK3/MKT).
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Trilogy is canon.
TheBigCityToilet Wrote:
I like Raiden and all, but he didn't do anything special till Deception. Hell, he isn't even IN MK3
I like Raiden and all, but he didn't do anything special till Deception. Hell, he isn't even IN MK3
Trilogy is canon.
Are you sure about that? I thought Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 was what was canon from that set of games(MK3/UMK3/MKT).
Concretely certain. Trilogy-only character bios and endings were continued into MK4.
The last version of a game has ALWAYS been the canon one. Gold is the canon MK4. Tournament Edition with Sektor, Noob, and Sareena is canon to MKDA, and Unchained is the canon Deception.
GodlyShinnok •12/12/2010 03:53 AM (UTC) •
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Mewzard Wrote:
Why are so many people butthurt over this? It's ridiculous. And even if you don't like him being made for the game...now that he is, why not just live with it? If he's going to be a part of the game, it's not like getting a version without him is going to be better. Some people are seriously ungrateful. It's a good game, enjoy it for that fact,. No need to nitpick it to death.
Why are so many people butthurt over this? It's ridiculous. And even if you don't like him being made for the game...now that he is, why not just live with it? If he's going to be a part of the game, it's not like getting a version without him is going to be better. Some people are seriously ungrateful. It's a good game, enjoy it for that fact,. No need to nitpick it to death.
People are going to get over this after a few weeks don't worry.
BIG_SYKE19 •12/12/2010 03:53 AM (UTC) •
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i like krastos but he should be a surprise......he should have been released last on dlc. and i wanted to see sonya or liu or raiden. WTF!!!!!!
Bloodfang •12/12/2010 03:55 AM (UTC) •
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Not big on guest characters but at least this time it's a character I like this time. Although he is extremely similar to Scorpion both weapons, fighting style, and storyline. I guess I'll just treat him as a "scorpion of a different era" type deal (like they did with the different "ages" of Spawns). I just hope he'll actually USE his flaming chain-swords for his weapon based combo attacks instead of just having them for one special and maybe some throws but the rest of the time using a katana or broadsword (or the Sword of Olympus even) like Scorpion does with his "trademarked" rope-dart.
ThePredator151 •12/12/2010 03:55 AM (UTC) •
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Just in light of how serious everyone else may be taking Kratos being in the game, i wanna play with this.
Naup, I disagree. lol
So is Scorpion.... and no, he shouldn't go up against the all mighty Raiden. He will get his ass handed to him.
Correction... he was the head god. Zeus is a pansy compared to saaay.. Raiden.
No, Raiden is. They're actually about equal, but I'm sayin' Raiden anyway. haha...
Kratos has to have help to kill the Greek mythological gods. So...
#1: Nobody knows Raidens weaknesses. So I'll assume he doesn't have one. I might consider his passion for mortals a weakness, but that says nothing for his actual capability.
#2: Kratos matches up better for Scorpion anyway. They're pretty much identical. The only edge, if it really were one, is that Kratos has two chained swords instead of Scorpions one harpoon and chain.
#3: Scorpion has done mm.... damn near everything down to the letter that Kratos has done.... AND He lives in Hell.
BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
mann come ON!!!!!! you know deep in your heart that kratos would kill everyone in the mk universe.
mann come ON!!!!!! you know deep in your heart that kratos would kill everyone in the mk universe.
Naup, I disagree. lol
BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
dude is overpowered as hell. kratos should be fighting raiden thats more of a challenge.
dude is overpowered as hell. kratos should be fighting raiden thats more of a challenge.
So is Scorpion.... and no, he shouldn't go up against the all mighty Raiden. He will get his ass handed to him.
BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
kratos always fights people stronger than him and he is a GOD, the HEAD GOD. dude KILLED ZUES in his FINAL GOD FORM.
kratos always fights people stronger than him and he is a GOD, the HEAD GOD. dude KILLED ZUES in his FINAL GOD FORM.
Correction... he was the head god. Zeus is a pansy compared to saaay.. Raiden.
BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
now just take an eye test.....whos more powerful zues or raiden.........zeus.
now just take an eye test.....whos more powerful zues or raiden.........zeus.
No, Raiden is. They're actually about equal, but I'm sayin' Raiden anyway. haha...
BIG_SYKE19 Wrote:
he's the head god of thunder.. raiden is part of the elder gods. and even if raiden is just as strong as zues kratos would still win. and plus the titans are very strong and kratos kills them too.
he's the head god of thunder.. raiden is part of the elder gods. and even if raiden is just as strong as zues kratos would still win. and plus the titans are very strong and kratos kills them too.
Kratos has to have help to kill the Greek mythological gods. So...
#1: Nobody knows Raidens weaknesses. So I'll assume he doesn't have one. I might consider his passion for mortals a weakness, but that says nothing for his actual capability.
#2: Kratos matches up better for Scorpion anyway. They're pretty much identical. The only edge, if it really were one, is that Kratos has two chained swords instead of Scorpions one harpoon and chain.
#3: Scorpion has done mm.... damn near everything down to the letter that Kratos has done.... AND He lives in Hell.
maximus12 •12/12/2010 03:55 AM (UTC) •
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how? Reptile's entire gimmick is that he fights for guys who are evil because he doesn't have the brains to realize he's being used. He's also The Last of His Kind (bonus points), and yearns for sex with a female. And he's an assassin.
Kitana? She was Kahn's hit-girl who turned on him once she learned she was royalty. After that, what did she really do?
I like Raiden and all, but he didn't do anything special till Deception. Hell, he isn't even IN MK3, canon-wise.
Scorpion is undead and out for revenge. The Elder Gods made him their champion but that didn't really go anywhere...except that they screwed him and now he wants revenge on THEM too.
Sub-Zero? Well maybe...he started out as an ice shooting guy, took over his own clan and tried to turn it good. That's an interesting life, but still not as much as Reptile.
ThePredator151 Wrote:
Uh...
Sub-Zero
Scorpion
Kitana
Raiden
...have deeper story elements, and weigh more on Mortal Kombat than Reptile. Those are just a couple. Not taking anything away from Reptile though.
TheBigCityToilet Wrote:
And none of the main Mortal Kombat characters are particularly deep except for maybe Reptile.
And none of the main Mortal Kombat characters are particularly deep except for maybe Reptile.
Uh...
Sub-Zero
Scorpion
Kitana
Raiden
...have deeper story elements, and weigh more on Mortal Kombat than Reptile. Those are just a couple. Not taking anything away from Reptile though.
how? Reptile's entire gimmick is that he fights for guys who are evil because he doesn't have the brains to realize he's being used. He's also The Last of His Kind (bonus points), and yearns for sex with a female. And he's an assassin.
Kitana? She was Kahn's hit-girl who turned on him once she learned she was royalty. After that, what did she really do?
I like Raiden and all, but he didn't do anything special till Deception. Hell, he isn't even IN MK3, canon-wise.
Scorpion is undead and out for revenge. The Elder Gods made him their champion but that didn't really go anywhere...except that they screwed him and now he wants revenge on THEM too.
Sub-Zero? Well maybe...he started out as an ice shooting guy, took over his own clan and tried to turn it good. That's an interesting life, but still not as much as Reptile.
I don't know GOW3 gave kratos more of a storyline at first it was revenge but eventually he did change everything. Sub zeros storyline was the best out of all of them he progressed the most.
AlexanderLuthor,Jr
MONEY SHOT! •12/12/2010 03:56 AM (UTC) •
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Concretely certain. Trilogy-only character bios and endings were continued into MK4.
The last version of a game has ALWAYS been the canon one. Gold is the canon MK4. Tournament Edition with Sektor, Noob, and Sareena is canon to MKDA, and Unchained is the canon Deception.
AlexanderLuthor,Jr Wrote:
Are you sure about that? I thought Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 was what was canon from that set of games(MK3/UMK3/MKT).
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Trilogy is canon.
TheBigCityToilet Wrote:
I like Raiden and all, but he didn't do anything special till Deception. Hell, he isn't even IN MK3
I like Raiden and all, but he didn't do anything special till Deception. Hell, he isn't even IN MK3
Trilogy is canon.
Are you sure about that? I thought Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 was what was canon from that set of games(MK3/UMK3/MKT).
Concretely certain. Trilogy-only character bios and endings were continued into MK4.
The last version of a game has ALWAYS been the canon one. Gold is the canon MK4. Tournament Edition with Sektor, Noob, and Sareena is canon to MKDA, and Unchained is the canon Deception.
Well sweet then. MKT was the best of the 3, anyhow. I love how the story involved all the characters but still kept the same basic premise as all the MK3 games.
PplEqualShyt •12/12/2010 03:57 AM (UTC) •
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This is a great thing.
I hope we see some really interesting down-loadable characters in this game. This is only the start of it.
I hope we see some really interesting down-loadable characters in this game. This is only the start of it.
TemperaryUserName New sig on the way •12/12/2010 03:57 AM (UTC) •
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Mewzard Wrote:
If he's going to be a part of the game, it's not like getting a version without him is going to be better.
If he's going to be a part of the game, it's not like getting a version without him is going to be better.
Actually, it would be. Many of us have already explained in great detail why in other threads.
BIG_SYKE19 •12/12/2010 03:59 AM (UTC) •
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OHHHHH THEY CHANGED SUB ZERO"S STANCE. YESSSSSS!!! its much better!!!
GodlyShinnok Wrote:
People are going to get over this after a few weeks don't worry.
Mewzard Wrote:
Why are so many people butthurt over this? It's ridiculous. And even if you don't like him being made for the game...now that he is, why not just live with it? If he's going to be a part of the game, it's not like getting a version without him is going to be better. Some people are seriously ungrateful. It's a good game, enjoy it for that fact,. No need to nitpick it to death.
Why are so many people butthurt over this? It's ridiculous. And even if you don't like him being made for the game...now that he is, why not just live with it? If he's going to be a part of the game, it's not like getting a version without him is going to be better. Some people are seriously ungrateful. It's a good game, enjoy it for that fact,. No need to nitpick it to death.
People are going to get over this after a few weeks don't worry.
True - there will be many more disappointments and let-downs from NRS to come in the next few months so people will soon forget about this and move onto them.
RubberChickenMan •12/12/2010 04:00 AM (UTC) •
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Kratos is a "noncanon guest character" he wont be in story mode. So no he wont ruin the mythology of the series. And he is not one of the 26 main characters since he wont be appearing in the xbox360 version of the game.
If there was one character who could fit in the mk universe its kratos. I dont see a reason why people are dissapointed. This could increase the sales of the game since there is a huge gow fanbase. Plus I xobsoder my ps3 to be my major platform and this will most likely increase the sale of the ps3 version.
And yes Im happy with the reveal.
If there was one character who could fit in the mk universe its kratos. I dont see a reason why people are dissapointed. This could increase the sales of the game since there is a huge gow fanbase. Plus I xobsoder my ps3 to be my major platform and this will most likely increase the sale of the ps3 version.
And yes Im happy with the reveal.
GodlyShinnok •12/12/2010 04:00 AM (UTC) •
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sevendesigns Wrote:
And Kratos is better than a lot of, well, pretty much majority of the characters introduced once MK went 3D.
And Kratos is better than a lot of, well, pretty much majority of the characters introduced once MK went 3D.
Jarek, Meat, Hsu Hao, Kobra, Hotaru, Dairou, Darrius, Daegon, for example.
MyQueenSindel Wrote:
But then, 6 months pass and I begin to think, "hm, really? No stupid gimmicky bullshit?" Alright then! Looks like Mortal Kombat is back. But not it looks like I fell right into their trap. They really had me going.
But then, 6 months pass and I begin to think, "hm, really? No stupid gimmicky bullshit?" Alright then! Looks like Mortal Kombat is back. But not it looks like I fell right into their trap. They really had me going.
My thoughts exactly. Almost everything about this game was too good to be true.
TheBigCityToilet Wrote:
how? Reptile's entire gimmick is that he fights for guys who are evil because he doesn't have the brains to realize he's being used. He's also The Last of His Kind (bonus points), and yearns for sex with a female. And he's an assassin.
how? Reptile's entire gimmick is that he fights for guys who are evil because he doesn't have the brains to realize he's being used. He's also The Last of His Kind (bonus points), and yearns for sex with a female. And he's an assassin.
Wha...? Reptile could have had an interesting storyline, but instead he always was relagated to the mere dog-servant of the bad guy of the game. He was always used primerily because he was stupid enough to believe that another warlord or fallen elder god will reunite him with his race. Even after Kahmeleon told him the truth he stiil contineus to fight for Kahn. In the end he is just another classic boring and shallow character alongside with Baraka, Kano and Scorpion.
Sub-Zero (especially Sub-Zero), Kitana, Raiden and even Noob-Saibot are much more deeper and interesting than Reptile.
Mewzard Wrote:
And even if you don't like him being made for the game...now that he is, why not just live with it?
And even if you don't like him being made for the game...now that he is, why not just live with it?
And of course you see some riots and angry people going to NRS and WB offices...
Stop being stupid. People who disappointed about Kratos in MK just state their opinion. Nothing more. If that's considered to be a whining...well, then any complaint about the game, whether it's valid or not, could be considered whining.
In this case a thought occurs: maybe for some people it's simplier just to eat whatever they receive, rahter than demand for something better?
heartoffire •12/12/2010 04:01 AM (UTC) •
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Disappointment aside
For those who played God of War 3, it looks like Kratos has the golden fleece on his shoulder, perhaps that would help him deflect moves.
For those who played God of War 3, it looks like Kratos has the golden fleece on his shoulder, perhaps that would help him deflect moves.
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MKBooted Wrote:
True - there will be many more disappointments and let-downs from NRS to come in the next few months so people will soon forget about this and move onto them.
True - there will be many more disappointments and let-downs from NRS to come in the next few months so people will soon forget about this and move onto them.
Over it as in "see it as a good thing and don't think it was a bad decision"? Ha, not even. Some people are still mad about MKvsDC; you think we're gonna forget about this?
TheBigCityToilet •12/12/2010 04:02 AM (UTC) •
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Concretely certain. Trilogy-only character bios and endings were continued into MK4.
The last version of a game has ALWAYS been the canon one. Gold is the canon MK4. Tournament Edition with Sektor, Noob, and Sareena is canon to MKDA, and Unchained is the canon Deception.
Concretely certain. Trilogy-only character bios and endings were continued into MK4.
The last version of a game has ALWAYS been the canon one. Gold is the canon MK4. Tournament Edition with Sektor, Noob, and Sareena is canon to MKDA, and Unchained is the canon Deception.
MK3 saw Raiden getting banished back to the Essence when Kahn make his move. MKT bio says he came back as a human so he could fight.
But MK4 says he came back to Earth AFTER Kahn got taken down.
RazorsEdge701 •12/12/2010 04:03 AM (UTC) •
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RedSumac Wrote:
In this case a thought occurs: maybe for some people it's simplier just to eat whatever they receive, rahter than demand for something better?
In this case a thought occurs: maybe for some people it's simplier just to eat whatever they receive, rahter than demand for something better?
And some people don't like the taste of garnish when they ordered steak and potatoes.
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
Over it as in "see it as a good thing and don't think it was a bad decision"? Ha, not even. Some people are still mad about MKvsDC; you think we're gonna forget about this?
MKBooted Wrote:
True - there will be many more disappointments and let-downs from NRS to come in the next few months so people will soon forget about this and move onto them.
True - there will be many more disappointments and let-downs from NRS to come in the next few months so people will soon forget about this and move onto them.
Over it as in "see it as a good thing and don't think it was a bad decision"? Ha, not even. Some people are still mad about MKvsDC; you think we're gonna forget about this?
I'm one of them. After having a game with friggin' Captain Marvel and the Flash, I was MORE than ready for a pure MK game with a pure MK roster.
ThePredator151 •12/12/2010 04:04 AM (UTC) •
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TheBigCityToilet Wrote:
how? Reptile's entire gimmick is that he fights for guys who are evil because he doesn't have the brains to realize he's being used. He's also The Last of His Kind (bonus points), and yearns for sex with a female. And he's an assassin.
Kitana? She was Kahn's hit-girl who turned on him once she learned she was royalty. After that, what did she really do?
I like Raiden and all, but he didn't do anything special till Deception. Hell, he isn't even IN MK3, canon-wise.
Scorpion is undead and out for revenge. The Elder Gods made him their champion but that didn't really go anywhere...except that they screwed him and now he wants revenge on THEM too.
Sub-Zero? Well maybe...he started out as an ice shooting guy, took over his own clan and tried to turn it good. That's an interesting life, but still not as much as Reptile.
ThePredator151 Wrote:
Uh...
Sub-Zero
Scorpion
Kitana
Raiden
...have deeper story elements, and weigh more on Mortal Kombat than Reptile. Those are just a couple. Not taking anything away from Reptile though.
TheBigCityToilet Wrote:
And none of the main Mortal Kombat characters are particularly deep except for maybe Reptile.
And none of the main Mortal Kombat characters are particularly deep except for maybe Reptile.
Uh...
Sub-Zero
Scorpion
Kitana
Raiden
...have deeper story elements, and weigh more on Mortal Kombat than Reptile. Those are just a couple. Not taking anything away from Reptile though.
how? Reptile's entire gimmick is that he fights for guys who are evil because he doesn't have the brains to realize he's being used. He's also The Last of His Kind (bonus points), and yearns for sex with a female. And he's an assassin.
Kitana? She was Kahn's hit-girl who turned on him once she learned she was royalty. After that, what did she really do?
I like Raiden and all, but he didn't do anything special till Deception. Hell, he isn't even IN MK3, canon-wise.
Scorpion is undead and out for revenge. The Elder Gods made him their champion but that didn't really go anywhere...except that they screwed him and now he wants revenge on THEM too.
Sub-Zero? Well maybe...he started out as an ice shooting guy, took over his own clan and tried to turn it good. That's an interesting life, but still not as much as Reptile.
Really? Reptile has been everyone's "lil bitch" since day one. Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Onaga, just to name the obvious ones. Nothing has happened to him outside of being the surrogate for the Dragon King's return. Which is metaphorically again, someone's lil biatch.
Every character I listed, and then you elaborated on for me, has more of a "life" inside the MK mythos than Reptile.
heartoffire •12/12/2010 04:06 AM (UTC) •
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I wish they used the subzero stance on this new trailer, but unfortunately I'm betting they didn't change any of the stances because Scorpion's was different as well in the vid. Probably just showing off brief animation for the scene.
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