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06/10/2010 03:11 AM (UTC)
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I gotta agree with Icebaby. If you ahven't seen my posts from earlier, I have stated the most important parts of MK to me are the characters and story. Yet I somehow like this video. You wonder why?

Well it's just an interesting realistic take on something. I don't claim that this is better, nor that it should replace MK as we know it. I simply think this is a fun "what if" scenario to explore. Don't make it seem like as soon as I saw this I dismissed everything that is MK, and wanted THAT to be the face of MK. It's simply not the case.

It's no different than when Marvel and DC etc. have alternate Universes with the same charcters but their stories and whatnot are altered. These are usually pretty popular, because people love to see their favorite characters in "what if" scenarios, such as Marvel Zombies. In the case of this video, this is a "what if" MK was based in the world as we know it. And for those that think it has no fantasy or supernatural elements, I thik you are just refusing to look at the supernatural elements of Reptile, Baraka, and the fact that Scorpion is clearly something other than human. But what ties it all down, is that it's in a modern more realistic setting.

I personally see no harm in at least seeing what it would look like. So I can love the MK story and its characters, but IMO it's ok to see if they can come up with all new stories for the characters in an alternate rebooted storyline and world. Nothing will change MK 1-MK:A, or the movies they made. Nothing is gonna sweep that from being what MK is. If they choose to reboot the series, and change up the storylines...it will just be a completely alternate thing all on it's own. It will be known as MK the 2010 rebooted series. That's it.

Some of you are afraid that this could potentially replace MK. Do any of the other rebooted things ever replace what people know as the classics? No. The Dark Knight is great and all, but I will always remember Batman for the comics and cartoons etc. that made me like him. And what happens if the reboot isn't well received? Then they will just pick up right back where they left off just like anything else. Simple as that.
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06/10/2010 03:13 AM (UTC)
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]{0MBAT Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
It does still have fantasy elements. It's obvious Scorpion is still a specter and Tsung is most likely still a sorcerer.


No it does not. There's no proof of any such thing in the 8 minute video. Just because Hanzo's eyes were white does not mean he's undead.


Yes, him having white eyes totally doesn't mean anything. Neither does the fact that he was able to magically remove the cuffs. None of this means supernatural at all.

I'm rolling my eyes incase you don't know.


They'd probably go into some exposition that explains his appearance.

"Hanzo Hasashi. He got his eyes tattooed in prison. Can't see his pupils. Gives him a psychological edge while in battle - his opponents can't tell what he's focusing on."


What about the spear? The cuffs?
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06/10/2010 03:14 AM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
SubMan799, what does that prove?

What does it have to do with me loving the game now?

You can bet I was angry with the T rating since this was the first ever T rated MK game, but I gave it a chance and I love it.

Maybe you should dig up my other old posts and you'll see 90% of them are about characters & stories.

Me liking this "pitch" has nothing to do with blood or gore because it was confirmed from day one that MK9 would have that any way. I like the movie pitch because it's different and new. Lock me up, what a crime.


Reason I brought up those posts is because I remember you being the ultimate troll of MKDC. What does it have to do with this? It shows that you can't take a T rated MK game, but this clip is fantastic to you.

Well I can make the argument that a T rated game is just a different take on MK and that if you didn't like it then you're just afraid of change. That is the argument many of the people here are taking.

Listen, I'm all for changing the series up, but not completely redefining what Mortal Kombat is.
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06/10/2010 03:18 AM (UTC)
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And let us not forget how different the Street Fighter recently released was from the game, and people hated it. Yet, it affected nothing of the series, and people still love the game just as much as they ever have. If WB makes this movie and things are different, but 90% of the people like it and pay to see it. It's only going to make MK big again. Nobody said the games had to change, or that they couldn't rebound if the movie ended up being a flop. I just think it'd be interesting to see, that's it.
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06/10/2010 03:21 AM (UTC)
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And let us not forget how different the Street Fighter recently released was from the game, and people hated it. Yet, it affected nothing of the series, and people still love the game just as much as they ever have. If WB makes this movie and things are different, but 90% of the people like it and pay to see it. It's only going to make MK big again. Nobody said the games had to change, or that they couldn't rebound if the movie ended up being a flop. I just think it'd be interesting to see, that's it.


Again my argument is not whether or not this would make a good movie, but how the fan reacted to the clip.
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06/10/2010 03:21 AM (UTC)
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i dunno, i'm not diggin what i see so far. but i guess i'll pass final judgement on it if i see it
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06/10/2010 03:24 AM (UTC)
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Assuming this is for a film and it's just a pitch to see if WB is interested.....do you guys really think they would put a lot of time and effort into something that may be rejected? Perhaps that scene and it's ideas could just be exclusive to the pitch and not fully reflect what we'd see in the actual would-be film. Just a thought....

I agree with what others have said regarding the fantasy element. I find the clip way too realistic and I don't like how they completely change Baraka and Reptile. They made them too human. But there were some things I did like. We'll just have to and see ~


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06/10/2010 03:25 AM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
SubMan799, what does that prove?

What does it have to do with me loving the game now?

You can bet I was angry with the T rating since this was the first ever T rated MK game, but I gave it a chance and I love it.

Maybe you should dig up my other old posts and you'll see 90% of them are about characters & stories.

Me liking this "pitch" has nothing to do with blood or gore because it was confirmed from day one that MK9 would have that any way. I like the movie pitch because it's different and new. Lock me up, what a crime.


Reason I brought up those posts is because I remember you being the ultimate troll of MKDC. What does it have to do with this? It shows that you can't take a T rated MK game, but this clip is fantastic to you.

Well I can make the argument that a T rated game is just a different take on MK and that if you didn't like it then you're just afraid of change. That is the argument many of the people here are taking.

Listen, I'm all for changing the series up, but not completely redefining what Mortal Kombat is.


That's right, let's completely forget how I currently feel about MKVSDC and base this entire arguement on how I felt TWO freaking years ago, yes, that's really clever of you.

If that clip didn't have any blood in it I would love it just the same. It didn't even have that much of blood anyway. This isbn't about blood, it's about people who like to generalize the put everyone who disagrees with them in the same box.

Everyone who like this clip is gore freaks? That's a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Maybe they like it because it's something FRESH and NEW? I'm not saying you're wrong, I can see your side, but don't just lable everyone who likes this clip as a "gore freak" and then ignore them.

Funny how you haven't bothered to go look at my other posts in which you can clearly see I'm 90% about the story when it comes to MK.

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06/10/2010 03:27 AM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
And let us not forget how different the Street Fighter recently released was from the game, and people hated it. Yet, it affected nothing of the series, and people still love the game just as much as they ever have. If WB makes this movie and things are different, but 90% of the people like it and pay to see it. It's only going to make MK big again. Nobody said the games had to change, or that they couldn't rebound if the movie ended up being a flop. I just think it'd be interesting to see, that's it.


Again my argument is not whether or not this would make a good movie, but how the fan reacted to the clip.


That wasn't directed towards you, just anyone who hates the idea of the concept of a reboot movie. I was just saying MK wouldn't be the only one to try it, as SF did it just recently. And people disliked it cuz it sucked, but at the same time SF the game series is just as popular as ever. So if MK wanted to try and do something different as it pertains to the movies, and people are gonna like it, they could do that but keep the games the same. If anything it would get them more money to spend on their games, as well as get more attention and sales for them.
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06/10/2010 03:34 AM (UTC)
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ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
SubMan799 Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:

That's right, let's completely forget about how I currently feel about MKVSDC and base this entire arguement on how I felt TWO freaking years ago, yes, that's really clever of you.

If that clip didn't have any blood in it I would love it just the same. It didn't even have that much of blood anyway. This isn't about blood, it's about people who like to generalize and put everyone who disagrees with them in the same box.

Everyone who like this clip are gore freaks? That's a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Maybe they like it because it's something FRESH and NEW? I'm not saying you're wrong, I can see your side, but don't just lable everyone who likes this clip as a "gore freak" and then ignore them.

Funny how you haven't bothered to go look at my other posts in which you can clearly see I'm 90% about the story when it comes to MK.



Welp I'm sorry I missed your all important review of MKDC. Still, the point goes that you disliked MKDC from the previews because of the T rating. Obviously you can see where I'm coming from when "the ultimate MKDC hater" loves the "gory realistic 'interpretation' of MK."

It's clear we disagree about this and we're not going to resolve this.
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06/10/2010 03:36 AM (UTC)
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Has the inteview with the director been posted?

"Some highlights:

•They shot the short film over two days on two RED cameras
•Started in early April and it took 2 months to do the post production. Most people donated their time. The short was made for $7,500
•Knew if he was going to get a chance at a genre picture, he’d have to show he could do it on his own. This is a calling card for a chance at making the next Mortal Kombat feature film and it’s his vision for how he’d do it.
•No one at any studio knew he was doing the short
•Oren Uziel wrote the short. He’s currently listed on IMDb to write the next Mortal Kombat movie at Warner Bros.
•Says he wants to make a movie that balances the real world with the mysticism and the special powers. Compares it to the way Harry Potter exists in two worlds. As in there are two universes that coexist with each other.
•Confirms “fatalities” are definitely in his movie. He wants to put them in the tournament in an “organic way”
•Definitely would use “get over here” (the classic line from the game)
•Michael Jai White plays Jax Briggs in the short and he’d definitely be a part of the feature.
•Says Scorpion is the bad guy and will stay a bad guy
•They only had 4 hours to shoot the big fight scene"

More at the link http://tinyurl.com/26uy7ca
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06/10/2010 03:38 AM (UTC)
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I don't know how to respond to someone who thinks slipping out of handcuffs is a supernatural power.
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06/10/2010 03:39 AM (UTC)
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Says he wants to make a movie that balances the real world with the mysticism and the special powers. Compares it to the way Harry Potter exists in two worlds. As in there are two universes that coexist with each other.


Wait...WHAT?!
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06/10/2010 03:44 AM (UTC)
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icebaby, for someone who is genuinely interested in the story, how can you like something like this? I understand liking the idea of reinventing a series, but reinventing usually means retaining things that make a franchise what it is. This clip just retains the blood, gore and names of the franchise and nothing else.


I saw something that showed me two cops talking about evil people in the world murdering innocents being called to some underground tournament... With Scorpion being as a character to hunt down others, this is what I saw. I could care less with the blood and guts featured in a movie.

Which is what I like about Saw. I could give a fuck about the amounts of blood that was thrown everywhere in the scenes, all I cared for was the story and what the characters were like.

This is what I saw when I watched that clip, anyone who has a hard time in understanding how I watch things should just not respond to this because I'm in a very impatient mood because I'm rooting for my Hawks to win the goddamn game.



OH MY GOD THEY WON THEY WON THEY WON THEY WON!!!!!!!!!! grin

I've been watching for almost 20 years and I NEVER thought I'd see the day!!!! I remember the bad trades, the Mike Smith era, trading away Roenick, Chelios and finally Amonte. I never thought I'd see the Hawks turn it around and to do it so fast!!!!

Sorry to hijack this thread or whatever, but anyone that's been an MK fan from Chicago, the birthplace of MK has to be loving this night!!!!
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06/10/2010 03:46 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
Kal1138 Wrote:
Says he wants to make a movie that balances the real world with the mysticism and the special powers. Compares it to the way Harry Potter exists in two worlds. As in there are two universes that coexist with each other.


Wait...WHAT?!


Read the whole interview. It's explained better. They just took part of what he said for the highlights.
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06/10/2010 03:49 AM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:
SubMan799 Wrote:
ProfesserAhnka Wrote:

That's right, let's completely forget about how I currently feel about MKVSDC and base this entire arguement on how I felt TWO freaking years ago, yes, that's really clever of you.

If that clip didn't have any blood in it I would love it just the same. It didn't even have that much of blood anyway. This isn't about blood, it's about people who like to generalize and put everyone who disagrees with them in the same box.

Everyone who like this clip are gore freaks? That's a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Maybe they like it because it's something FRESH and NEW? I'm not saying you're wrong, I can see your side, but don't just lable everyone who likes this clip as a "gore freak" and then ignore them.

Funny how you haven't bothered to go look at my other posts in which you can clearly see I'm 90% about the story when it comes to MK.



Welp I'm sorry I missed your all important review of MKDC. Still, the point goes that you disliked MKDC from the previews because of the T rating. Obviously you can see where I'm coming from when "the ultimate MKDC hater" loves the "gory realistic 'interpretation' of MK."

It's clear we disagree about this and we're not going to resolve this.


Yes, it's deffinitely clear that you're a stubborn human being who is resorting to bringing up TWO YEAR OLD posts to try and warp your mind into believing that everyone who disagrees with you are inferior. That's pathetic.

You're going to seriously sit there and tell me WHY I like this clip based on how I felt about a freaking Mortal Kombat crossover YEARS ago while sweeping how I feel about said game currently under the carpet and then run away?

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06/10/2010 03:52 AM (UTC)
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Baraka407 Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
SubMan799 Wrote:
icebaby, for someone who is genuinely interested in the story, how can you like something like this? I understand liking the idea of reinventing a series, but reinventing usually means retaining things that make a franchise what it is. This clip just retains the blood, gore and names of the franchise and nothing else.


I saw something that showed me two cops talking about evil people in the world murdering innocents being called to some underground tournament... With Scorpion being as a character to hunt down others, this is what I saw. I could care less with the blood and guts featured in a movie.

Which is what I like about Saw. I could give a fuck about the amounts of blood that was thrown everywhere in the scenes, all I cared for was the story and what the characters were like.

This is what I saw when I watched that clip, anyone who has a hard time in understanding how I watch things should just not respond to this because I'm in a very impatient mood because I'm rooting for my Hawks to win the goddamn game.



OH MY GOD THEY WON THEY WON THEY WON THEY WON!!!!!!!!!! grin

I've been watching for almost 20 years and I NEVER thought I'd see the day!!!! I remember the bad trades, the Mike Smith era, trading away Roenick, Chelios and finally Amonte. I never thought I'd see the Hawks turn it around and to do it so fast!!!!

Sorry to hijack this thread or whatever, but anyone that's been an MK fan from Chicago, the birthplace of MK has to be loving this night!!!!


Chicagoans, such as Boon, would be pleased for today.
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06/10/2010 03:53 AM (UTC)
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I don't know how to respond to someone who thinks slipping out of handcuffs is a supernatural power.



Yes, because it's so easy to slip out of real handcuffs within a blink of an eye.

Maybe you should make a you tube video of you doing it.
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06/10/2010 03:54 AM (UTC)
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I have never seen so many red herrings in my life.

This director took a completely different character and attached the name "Baraka" to it, and now people think they're watching Mortal Kombat. If you disagree, I'll propose the same question as I did for Reptile's situation: What's more essential to Baraka's character? Arm blades, or the fact that he's a demon hybrid?

Let's imagine I wrote a story about a young girl who lives on a Civil War plantation but slowly discovers she's an amazing chess prodigy. If her name is Scarlett O'Hara, did I just "re-imagine" Gone with the Wind?

If you answered yes, then you probably hate Gone with the Wind. If you said no, then how would you feel if I said, "dude, you're just afraid of change!"

And again, I respect people who may enjoy this stylistic approach to the series, but it's not Mortal Kombat. It's an action-crime drama that uses names and elements from Mortal Kombat. Nothing more.


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At the end of the day, if Boon likes it, if WB likes it, the director and everyone involved, and it's generating buzz on the web and enough people are happy, it won't matter how many people hate it, it'll get made. How do I know? I'm a Bond fan. I love the Bond franchise and because of one terrible film (Die Another Day), the franchise was rebooted. They cast a man with blonde hair to play a man who's been written as having dark hair and they made the character a man of the war on terrorism and born in the 80s instead of an agent of the cold war and born in the 40's.

That, for me, was sacrilegious, so I know where all of you are coming from. They are even now rebooting the Bond novels as well, so there won't be any form of original continuity left in my beloved franchise. But, when Casino Royale came out, even though they changed drastically just about everything in one shape or form, I loved it. I gave it a shot. I went in expected to fully hate it and I came out pleased. I was expecting the worst out of everything but I was pleasantly surprised. Bond is known for the womanizing, being the expert killing machine, the drinker, blah blah. All of that was still there. Who's to say this outing of MK won't have the things it's known for, like magic and certain parts of its mythology?

Perhaps these posts are indeed in vain. But it's worth a try. If I were pushing for an MK project and wanted fan feedback, I'd check out the larger sites. It's no secret that some of the MK staff has lurked here in the past. What have I got to lose?

Well, time and peace of mind of course, but I can't really help myself at this point. I actually haven't seen the newer bond movies, but it seemed as though the core bond elements were still there. He was still an agent, and he was still English, much like how the Dark Knight mostly left Batman unaltered (and as serious as that movie is considered, Batman Begins still had ninjas in it). Though I guess you're more comparing the sense of betrayal, which is exactly what this potential project feels like to me.

In the end, the more me and Boon/WB disagree, the louder I'm going to become. YouTube videos are going to be the next step, but pray to the Lord it never comes to that.

KenshiMaster16 Wrote:


My only point is why can't two different tellings of the tale, one canon and one not, co-exist?

If there weren't so few chances to create incarnations of MK, I'd simply shrug and move on, but all the anxiety is coming from the idea that this is the last chance MK will have at a faithful film adaptation. This interpretation would be the final word on MK's film legacy, and that thought fills me with absolute terror.
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06/10/2010 03:54 AM (UTC)
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welp Ahnka, it's clear that there is no such thing as arguing with you. I never said people who disagree with me are inferior. Every time we ever have an argument, be it the time you got banned all those years ago or over MKDC, you always end up misinterpreting what I'm saying.

I'm done with this.
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06/10/2010 04:02 AM (UTC)
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welp Ahnka, it's clear that there is no such thing as arguing with you. I never said people who disagree with me are inferior. Every time we ever have an argument, be it the time you got banned all those years ago or over MKDC, you always end up misinterpreting what I'm saying.

I'm done with this.


You sure are a slick one, what with getting off subject and bringing up past personal issues to try and discredit someone. Very mature.

I'm not misinterpreting what you've said. I'm reading with both eyes open and taking everything you say in.

I already said that I can see why you would hate the clip. But you're the one who's flatout refusing to listen to why I like it. You just keep saying "Oh well, you were against MKVSDC two years ago so you're just a gore hound who love it because it has some red stuff in it". That's not fair or right.

Is that not what you're saying? Not trying to fight, just asking a question.
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06/10/2010 04:04 AM (UTC)
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Given the amount of money used to make this short, I think they did a fantastic job with that amount and time given. Just think for a moment of how much better it could have been if they had somewhere between 10million and 20 million to make a new MK movie. And for the lack of people involved it turned out pretty entertaining imo and I think personally more ppl liked it then those who didn't. Even when a new Mk movie gets made, there will be those who wish they did it like this and those who wanted something else. Their not going to please everyone and not every fan will be happy but I think for the most part for me anyway, I have faith they will do better then the last movie and thats all we can ask for at the moment, or thats all im asking for right now.


The one thing that bothers me is this. If they went this route,how would they be able to have outworld in the next movie and or shao kahn? Could it be done? I am sure, but its going to make things less believable with the direction their going.


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06/10/2010 04:14 AM (UTC)
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Well a lot of you people who were upset about the no super natural elements etc. can rest a little easier now. Read the full interview. I definitely have 100% complete faith in this guy. For how quickly and for how little money he made this short video for, he blew away millions of fans. WB would be really dumb to pass up on this with how popular it's gotten in just a days time.

Here's the interview if you didn't catch it before:

http://tinyurl.com/26uy7ca
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Imagine what he could do with the actual material!
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06/10/2010 04:29 AM (UTC)
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blackcyborg Wrote:
Well a lot of you people who were upset about the no super natural elements etc. can rest a little easier now. Read the full interview. I definitely have 100% complete faith in this guy. For how quickly and for how little money he made this short video for, he blew away millions of fans. WB would be really dumb to pass up on this with how popular it's gotten in just a days time.

Here's the interview if you didn't catch it before:

http://tinyurl.com/26uy7ca


Sounds awesome.
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