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06/03/2011 10:07 PM (UTC)
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@IndyRI: From what I've read, Earth/Air/Fire/Water are pretty much universal... Other cultures include more elements, but most have those four included somewhere. Air is at times switched out, but can be simply put in with Aether, which is likely the reason that air is not included. Variations I've seen are wood and metal, with metal easily being categorized as Earth, and so it is unnecessary... I can't think of a culture that does not include Earth and Water in some form, and I've read up quite a bit on the subject... Still, could always be one I'm missing.
Not exactly. Fire and Water are essentially universal. However, Aether in fact means something VERY different depending on the culture. In some cultures it is in fact an equivalency for air, but in others, it is the soul, or simply energy, or in fact the "stuff" between the other elements i.e. void, vacuum, dark matter, etc. Metal is not equivalent to Earth either. It shares a similar connotation in its associations, but is quite distinct. In fact, it is typically in elemental classifications alongside Earth, rather than replacing it. The same goes for Wood. The Chinese elemental system, for example, is Fire, Water, Earth, Wood, and Metal. Metal typically has a similar "feel" to the Chinese as Aether, and Wood as Air, but they literally refer to metals such as steel and copper, and the substance which trees are made of.
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06/03/2011 11:11 PM (UTC)
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Before crow sayed it was ok to use the charachters i used for the tournament, i had a second plan of a charachter that was going to use aaaaall of the elements, adding time. The idea was having him as one of that old race that craeted the nexus, who had the ability to manipulate the one being's mind, but in limited way. He created an amulet and absorbed the powers of all those beings, killing them. Then Shinnok stole the amulet and we know the rest of the story. It was cool because unlike shinnok and Quan Chi, he knew how to use the amulet.
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Harle
06/03/2011 11:23 PM (UTC)
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... I'm well aware of what aether means. But thank you for filling in more details in my explanation. Metal can be put in with earth because it essentially comes from the Earth, and a culture that favors simplicity would see no need to add metal. However, in the overly complicated cultures, metal becomes a necessity(just like wood, which is more justifiable than metal) for all of their vague associations. Without the extra elements, their lists of meanings would be incomplete. Like the life cycle, in which each element represents a different stage of life(water=old age/death if I remember correctly etc....), or the bodily fluids. I think wood is associated with tears in that case.... But again, it's been a while since I read about all of that. They also associate each element with certain smells, moods, planets, furniture, etc...... The list goes on. Also, for balance's sake in feng shui, where the elements cycle around defeating or enhancing each other. Metal enhances water, while earth weakens it.

Come to think of it, it would be fascinating to have character who was not only based around an element, but also based on that elements cultural associations. Like the Wu Xing's... So if someone was a water elemental(literally the "shui" in feng shui), they'd not only have powers of water but would have elements of their design influenced by the color black, curved lines, the "Black Tortoise", and so on.... Less interesting however, is Earth's apparent affinity with the pancreas.
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~Crow~
06/04/2011 04:02 AM (UTC)
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We're gonna need at least one more person to submit a character before Tuesday at midnight, friends.
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06/04/2011 06:38 AM (UTC)
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I've got one Crow. Just haven't had the chance to finish her.
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06/04/2011 06:51 AM (UTC)
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^what? you're killing your character already?

(sorry, I had to say it)
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06/04/2011 08:56 AM (UTC)
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did you got my two character pics for Salzar crow? smile
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06/04/2011 09:02 AM (UTC)
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Question... How do you get the small thumbnail picture???
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06/04/2011 09:18 AM (UTC)
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@ ultimatesavage, click on settings, then scroll down to "change icon".

You can select from pictures already on the site, or copy and paste your own.
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06/04/2011 09:29 AM (UTC)
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I have tried changing the icon but it just wont happen?! hmm...
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ArtemisFlow
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06/04/2011 02:27 PM (UTC)
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And what even brought you to the decision of posting about that in this topic? There's a whole thread owned to the profile pictures, if you'd just bother doing a few extra clicks.
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06/04/2011 02:41 PM (UTC)
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haha well I am new to this site, so just thought I'd ask lol
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Espio872
06/04/2011 02:46 PM (UTC)
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The turnout for this tournament is amazing, almost a hundred entries and possibly even more to come? Awesome stuff.
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Keith
06/04/2011 03:35 PM (UTC)
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Just sent in my final draft. Would've liked to have been able to spend more time on it but I simply can't afford to. Oh well, I'm just happy to participate. Good luck to everyone, can't wait to see the other entries.
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06/04/2011 03:36 PM (UTC)
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Spider804 Wrote:
ICEgrenade Wrote:
Spider804 Wrote:
Yeah, doesn't have to take alotta time.


well that's true but i keep catching myself updating Serenity and i don't wanna annoy crow with my constant updates lol tongue

I know, I was mostly respoding to Queve. lol tongue


lol well i wasnt actually directing my comment towards you i was just adding my two cents in wink
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Spider804
06/04/2011 03:40 PM (UTC)
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No worries, Ice. wink
Once again, good luck to everyone.
Even if I don't come out on top, at least I got that first place trophy from my bowling league this year to put on my trophy shelf. tongue
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06/04/2011 06:00 PM (UTC)
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^Haha, congratulations!
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Spider804
06/04/2011 06:37 PM (UTC)
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^^Thanks, this was my last year in that league, so I felt pretty happy about coming out on top. smile
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~Crow~
06/04/2011 09:47 PM (UTC)
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I've got one Crow. Just haven't had the chance to finish her.


Don't hesitate!

For those that have asked here, yes I received your revisions.
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eliblue
06/05/2011 01:44 AM (UTC)
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its not over until June 7th dude...:p
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Spider804
06/05/2011 01:45 AM (UTC)
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We still need one more person though, and no one else has submitted an entry in days.
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eliblue
06/05/2011 01:47 AM (UTC)
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HOLD ON CROW!! I JUST FINISHED DRAWING MY CHARACTER TODAY!! SHE TOOK ABOUT A WEEK!!! I WILL SEND HER IN TODAY! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WAIT. I WILL SEND HER TODAY! I'm almost finished with her alternate. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEE WAIT! I've worked very hard on her!!!!!
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eliblue
06/05/2011 01:50 AM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
Mojo6 Wrote:
I've got one Crow. Just haven't had the chance to finish her.


Don't hesitate!

For those that have asked here, yes I received your revisions.


CROW! PLEASSE WAIT!! I ALREEADYY POSTED A MESSAGE BUT I"M JUST MAKING SURE!!!! I WILL SEND IN MY CHARACTER TODAY!! PLEASEE WAIT! I WORKED VERY VERY HARD ON DRAWING HER! so it took a while... Thank you crow! this is an awesome tournament by the way
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TheBigMistake
06/05/2011 02:11 AM (UTC)
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eliblue Wrote:
~Crow~ Wrote:
Mojo6 Wrote:
I've got one Crow. Just haven't had the chance to finish her.


Don't hesitate!

For those that have asked here, yes I received your revisions.


CROW! PLEASSE WAIT!! I ALREEADYY POSTED A MESSAGE BUT I"M JUST MAKING SURE!!!! I WILL SEND IN MY CHARACTER TODAY!! PLEASEE WAIT! I WORKED VERY VERY HARD ON DRAWING HER! so it took a while...


Thank you crow! this is an awesome tournament by the way


My character senses desperation and will destroy all. grin lol good luck all looks like its on and crackin!!
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eliblue
06/05/2011 02:40 AM (UTC)
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haha. Yeah but its not really desperation. It just would be
TheBigMistake Wrote:
eliblue Wrote:
~Crow~ Wrote:
Mojo6 Wrote:
I've got one Crow. Just haven't had the chance to finish her.


Don't hesitate!

For those that have asked here, yes I received your revisions.


CROW! PLEASSE WAIT!! I ALREEADYY POSTED A MESSAGE BUT I"M JUST MAKING SURE!!!! I WILL SEND IN MY CHARACTER TODAY!! PLEASEE WAIT! I WORKED VERY VERY HARD ON DRAWING HER! so it took a while...


Thank you crow! this is an awesome tournament by the way


My character senses desperation and will destroy all. grin lol good luck all looks like its on and crackin!!


ummmmm..its not desperation, it just would be a shame if I spent a lot of time working on a character that didnt get into the tourney...thats all. Im really trying my best to finish her alternate costume by today. And good luck to you too..
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