Hmmmm, this sucks, Raw is starting to become the same level as Smackdown(crap), I just read the results, and it just keeps getting worse and worse, there was only two matches on Raw. And they're not even pushing the JBL Undertaker feud on Smackdown which is pathetic. And now Orton is gonna win the title, man from now until the end of the year, WWE is gonna suck ass, I dont see it becoming interesting anytime soon.

Oh and what the hell are they doing with Kane, man they ruined him, he hasnt won a PPV match since Survivor Series, he loses to FUCKIN MATT HARDY, and he gets dogged by Lita, seriously, he should've beat Benoit, if Bradshaw can win the title, then anyone can.

2000, and wreslting still sucks

I don't think the WWE will ever reach it's Golden Era status again.Same goes for other forms of media.There is way too much money involved now.Everyone just does stuff for money now a days.Don't get me wrong making money is good but why change for the money?What we need more of in the world is passion.There hasn't been a good wrestler who loves the buisness and loves to wrestle in awhile.

I hope Vince will wake up and smell the coffee soon.Vince should know all of his fans are now going to TNA.TNA is where the TALENT is at.Not that Soap Opera crap that the WWE has.Who cares about the Divas?There just Eye Candy.The Writers should put them to better use.I wouldn't mind if they had a Battle of the Sexes to make things even more interesting.I kinda hate that whole bitchy attitude storyline the Divas have.

I said this before and Im going to say this again:LISTEN TO US FANS!

Vince and Co probably already know.

Here is a Question, who would YOU all make WWE Champs? And A Bonus Question...who would they fued with?

WWE champ: Rob Van Dam...fueding with Booker T

US Champ: Charlie Haas...fueding with REy Mysterio

CruiserWeight Title: Paul London...fueding with Billy Kidman

WWE Tag Champ: Rico and Charlie Haas...fueding with Dudley Boyz


RAW

World champ: HBK ... Fueding with Chris Jericho

IC Champ: Chris Benoit ....fueding with Randy Orton

Womens: Trish

Ill do later

Here is a Question, who would YOU all make WWE Champs? And A Bonus Question...who would they fued with?

WWE champ: Rob Van Dam...fueding with Booker T

US Champ: Charlie Haas...fueding with REy Mysterio

CruiserWeight Title: Paul London...fueding with Billy Kidman

WWE Tag Champ: Rico and Charlie Haas...fueding with Dudley Boyz


RAW

World champ: HBK ... Fueding with Chris Jericho

IC Champ: Chris Benoit ....fueding with Randy Orton

Womens: Trish

Ill do later

2004 I'm now the highest numbered poster...heven higher than he guy who posted before me... wow...

Drfatality Wrote: I don't think the WWE will ever reach it's Golden Era status again.Same goes for other forms of media.There is way too much money involved now.Everyone just does stuff for money now a days.Don't get me wrong making money is good but why change for the money?What we need more of in the world is passion.There hasn't been a good wrestler who loves the buisness and loves to wrestle in awhile. I hope Vince will wake up and smell the coffee soon.Vince should know all of his fans are now going to TNA.TNA is where the TALENT is at.Not that Soap Opera crap that the WWE has.Who cares about the Divas?There just Eye Candy.The Writers should put them to better use.I wouldn't mind if they had a Battle of the Sexes to make things even more interesting.I kinda hate that whole bitchy attitude storyline the Divas have. I said this before and Im going to say this again:LISTEN TO US FANS! Vince and Co probably already know.

I couldn't agree with you more, Vince needs to wake up. He might be seeing that eliminating his only competition might not have been such a hot idea after all, with the way the business is going. BTW, Drfatality, to answer your earlier question, no new info about Mania XX1 on X-box. Also, Black_Dragon, and Olympic, cool pics guys.
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WWE Promoting Bret Hart's Upcoming Book And DVD Set:

- WWE is very interested in promoting Bret Hart's upcoming book as well as releasing a "Best Of" DVD set featuring matches and interviews spanning Bret's entire career. Shane McMahon recently met with Bret to discuss these ventures and pitched the idea to him that WWE wants to use Bret to become a company spokesperson.

Ric Flair, whose autobiography fell to #7 on the New York Times Best Sellers List this week, was encouraged by WWE management to mention the Bret Hart situation during his recent media appearances.


Spoiler Alert: Upcoming Smackdown! Superstar Heel Turn:

- The following is a scheduled card for next months Smackdown tour of Austrialia. The line-up includes confirmation of an upcoming heel turn. You have been warned, read at your own risk.

8/29 in Melbourne:

*WWE champion John Bradshaw Layfield vs. The Undertaker - Down Under Match with No DQ
*Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle - No DQ, There Must Be A Winner
*John Cena vs. WWE United States champion Booker T vs. Rene Dupree
*WWE Tag Team champions Billy Kidman & Paul London & Funaki vs. The Dudley Boyz & Spike Dudley
*Torrie Wilson & Miss Jackie vs. Sable & Dawn Marie
*Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero
*Billy Gunn vs. John Heidenreich
*Rob Van Dam vs. Luther Reigns
*Charlie Haas vs. Kenzo Suzuki

As you can see, it seems Spike Dudley has been reunited with former tag-team partners The Dudley Boys. This most probably means that Spike will take a heel turn very soon, before the shows in Australia.


Huge News On Edge's Heel Turn, New WWE Developmental Territory:

- Since his return has been a little flat and he hasn't caught on with the fans as well as anticipated, Edge and many people backstage have been pushing for him to turn heel and create a new image for himself. This past week, there has been a lot of talk of Edge costing Chris Benoit the World title at Summerslam. Orton winning the Heavyweight Championshp would elevate Orton and further his storyline with Triple H. Additionaly, it would turn Edge heel and set up a program with Chris Benoit over the Intercontinental Title.

For several months, WWE has been considering the idea of expanding its developmental territories beyond just Ohio Valley Wrestling (where Brock Lesnar, Batista, Shelton Benjamin, Eugene the Bashams and countless other WWE superstars originated). It appears the first new WWE developmental area will be based out of the Northeast at the Trax building in Stamford, CT. The location will allow WWE management to closely monitor the developing talent without having to fly halfway across the country and making a big event out of it.

- After the success of the Ric Flair DVD, WWE is now in the process of doing a history of the Four Horsemen DVD.

Thnks dude, by the way, WTF is a Dow Under Match?

NEW SIG!!!!!!!!! Taker and Kane!!!!!

By the Way, Ask your doctor if Lipitor is right for you

NeoScorpion Wrote: 2004 I'm now the highest numbered poster...heven higher than he guy who posted before me... wow...

lol nope now its me.

Damn this thing is long.

hey Black Dragon. Sweetass Sig dude! Two of my favorite wrestlers! you should keep that one.

Anyways, heres who I would like to have as the Raw/SmackDown! Champions..

Raw
World Heavyweight Champion: Kane
Intercontinental Champion: Edge
World Tag Team Champions: Hurricane/Rosey
Woman's Champion: Lita

SmackDown!
WWE Champion: The Undertaker
United States Champion: Booker T or RVD
WWE Tag Team Champions: London/Kidman (these guys are great wrestlers)
WWE Cruiserweight Champion: Rey Mysterio or Ultimo Dragon(when he comes back)

I think after Summerslam when Taker wins the title(yes he will) things are gonna be much better then they are now. If Randy Orton wins the World Title and they are still keeping that Diva shit. than Raw is a lost cause.

Hopfully Chris Benoit and Taker walks out of Summerslam as WWE and World Champs. that'd be awesome. and the WWE will be much better than.

Thank You Olympic_Hero...I try to give my all in everything, but I ussualy Fail, so this is something new!

i would like to see:

Heavyweight Champion Eugene (Seriously)
WWE Champion The Big Show (When he returns)
Cruiserweight Champion Rey Mysterio
IC Champion Y2J
US Champion John Cena (Again)
Womens Champion Lita
World Tag Team Champions Im happy with La Resistance being the champs
WWE Tag Team Champions Haas and Rico

Wow, over 2000 posts! Thanks everyone for keeping this thread going.
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*Many backstage still feel that John Heidenreich is lost in the ring and does not belong on the roster yet. He is set to begin a program with the Undertaker for SummerSlam and in the past Undertaker has been very vocal in letting management know when someone is not a good worker. It will be interesting to see how all of this plays out and if Undertaker is able to work with him.

*Kurt Angle is working off the ring rust and starting too feel better, while he prepares for his match with Eddie Guerrero at SummerSlam. Guerrero is still be held off of House Show's until his hamstring has a chance to heal.

*It was Vince McMahon's idea to push Teddy Long to become the new GM of Smackdown! Vince feel's Long has great potential and wants him to work as a pure babyface.

*Vince McMahon, Stephanine McMahon, & Triple H all met with Bruno Sammartino in Pittsburgh last week to discuss him coming to work for WWE 24/7. Samartino in the past has had a great deal of animosity towards Vince McMahon, but apparently the meeting went smooth and it's possible he will be working with the project.

- Jeff Hardy gave everyone in TNA a bit of a scare on 7/21, as he cancelled two of his flights and arrived late to the TNA PPV.

The next morning, all of the wrestlers take a van from the hotel to the airport to take the first flight out to Orlando but Hardy wasn't there. When Jeff was finally woken up, all of the wrestlers had to wait about 25 minutes for him to get ready, and it rubbed some people the wrong way.

The company has now put Frankie Kazarian in charge of Hardy to make sure that he gets up on time. They will also continue to have Dusty Rhodes do promos for him due to the fact that TNA doesn't have faith in Jeff to do his own, though, the crowd sees him as a real star.

- From what we know, HHH has gotten Sean Waltman his job back in WWE as long as Waltman went into rehab (where he is now).

Waltman had spoken with HHH back at the No Way Out PPV in February and the decision was that Vince McMahon and HHH would pay for Waltman to go into rehab, and once he was done he'd basically have his job waiting for him. It is known that Waltman does want to return to WWE in a wrestling role, though we are unsure at this point as to whether he will be wrestling again in WWE, or if he will just have some sort of job backstage.


The following is the official RAW.WWE.com preview for tonight's edition of WWE RAW:

SPECIAL REVENGE?
Aug. 2, 2004

For months, Triple H tried to bring the World Heavyweight Championship back to Evolution. Last week, it seemed as though the prestigious title was just minutes from coming back to the faction. Enter Eugene. The special Superstar spoiled Triple H's plans of becoming World Heavyweight Champion by interfering at the end of the epic 60-minute Iron Man Match. Undoubtedly, The Game will be looking for Eugene this week on Monday Night RAW.

While Triple H may have been unsuccessful in bring the gold back to Evolution, it appears as though somebody else will be picking up where he left off. Last week, Randy Orton won a grueling Battle Royal to earn the right to face the World Heavyweight Champion at SummerSlam. With just weeks before the August pay-per-view, will Evolution and Orton have something planned to ensure the title comes to them this time? Tune in to Monday Night RAW this week at 9/8 CT on Spike TV.

Black_Dragon Wrote: Here is a Question, who would YOU all make WWE Champs? And A Bonus Question...who would they fued with?

WWE champ: Undertaker, feud with Kurt Angle

US Champ: Charlie Haas, feud with Eddie Guerrero

CruiserWeight Title: Rey Mysterio, feud with Spike Dudley (guess it's happening)

WWE Tag Champ: London and Kidman, feud with the Dudleys

RAW

World champ: Triple H, feud with Kane

IC Champ: Batista, feud with Christian

Womens: I don't care about the women's title

Tag Champs: Tag-Team championships in RAW are meaningless but nevertheless.... Rhyno & Tajiri.

- The plan right now appears to be to put the WWE Title on Randy Orton at Summerslam and have him hold the belt until WrestleMania in 2005 where he would defend against, and likely lose, to Triple H.

Everyone backstage views Orton as "the real deal" and most have been impressed with how much he has improved and how quickly he has done it. WWE also has a ready made big money program between Orton and Triple H.

WWE likes that Orton can work as a face or a heel, and that he has come up during the brand split, meaning that he has lots of fresh feuds left with guys currently on the Smackdown roster.

WWE is also planning to revisit the Orton/Edge feud later, but with Orton as the face and Edge as the heel. Orton will also likely feud with Ric Flair and Batista soon, following his split from Evolution.


- Lately there has been a lot of talk among TNA management about moving the company to Orlando, Florida this September. There is feeling that if the company moved it's offices to Orlando they would be able to use the better resources to help the company. Many within the company don't want to leave the Nashville audience behind since they have been there since the beginning.

There is also talk of doing away with the weekly PPV concept in favor of having one Sunday night PPV every month instead. The reason why TNA began as a PPV only company was due to the fact that they did not have TV. Since the PPV only concept has been for the lack of a better word, a failure, they would use Impact! to build towards the monthly PPV events in order to cut a huge amount of money loss each week.

Sources are also reporting that TNA may finally begin running house shows beginning this October. There are many members of management currently that are not fully sold on the house show idea just yet but they are still trying to make a decision as to what to do. TNA is looking into Pittsburgh, Detroit, and Dayton, Ohio as possible cities to run house shows.

See Batista should be pushed as the face, not Orton! I think it would be awesome to see him get kicked out of Evolution and then work his way into contention by going through people like Kane for starters.

Orton as a face would be okay. I like his talent, but to his credit, I hate the tosser! Now Edge as a hell would be great! But he should keep his hair though.


GD

5 new screens

Thats Two Days old, but good find! I think it would be pretty cool to see Orton vs Flair or Orton vs Batista...I like Batista and Flair! They are my favortie Evoultion Members! Orton...meh. Thats All Io can say

Scorpionvsermac Wrote: 5 new screens

WHOA! Yo dude! You might want to scale those pics down a bit! The file size is too large as well.


GD

ghostdragon Wrote: Scorpionvsermac Wrote: 5 new screens WHOA! Yo dude! You might want to scale those pics down a bit! The file size is too large as well. GD

How do you make the size smaller?

Scorpionvsermac Wrote: ghostdragon Wrote: Scorpionvsermac Wrote: 5 new screens WHOA! Yo dude! You might want to scale those pics down a bit! The file size is too large as well. GD How do you make the size smaller?

Just throw them into MS Paint and resize them and resave. That should do it mate.


GD

People, Im gonna make the biggest post of my life in the nxt few days...its my Summerslam CArd and RESULTS...I doubt anybody is gonna read ALL of it...but meh. Entertain myself..I srated 4 days ago....

here is just the first part out of A LOT its long


WWE Summerslam Card

WWE Championship Match
Undertaker vs John "Bradshaw" Layfield

World Championship Match
Randy Orton vs Chris Benoit

HHH vs Eugene

WWE Intercontinental Championship match
Chris Jericho vs Batista vs Edge

Till Death do Us Part Match
Kane vs Matt Hardy

Eddie Guerrero vs Kurt Angle

United States Championship Match
Rob Van Dam vs John Cena vs Booker T

6-man Tag Team Match
Rey Mysterio, Billy Kidman, Paul London vs The Dudley Boyz

Number 1 Contenders match for the US Title
Luther Reigns vs Charlie Haas vs Kenzo Susuki vs Rene Dupree



WWE Summerslam Results

:: Pyro hits off and Micheal Cole welcomes us to
the 2004 Summerslam Event ::

Cole: Welcome folks! To the 2004 Summerslam
Event brought to you by X-Box!!!!

Tazz: Thats right Cole! We're here Live in Toronto
and we are gonna start thing off with the 6 man
Tag Team Match!!

:: The Dudley Boyz Music hits and all the Dudley's
walk out while being booed from the crowd ::

Cole: Well Tazz...this all started with the Dudley's
offering Spike Help...and Spike...Suprisingley
Accepted, and Turned on his Partner, Rey Mysterio

:: Shows Clip of the Past SD! where Spike Turned
on Rey ::

:: Rey Mysterio's music hits and out he comes to
a HUGE pop ::

Tazz: In my Opinion, Spike made a Wise Desicion
teaming wiht his Very Powerful Brothers!

Cole: oh well ya stop it? Spike was very stupid
in making that desicion!

:: Paul London and Billy Kidman walk out to a pop!
DVon and Bubba are screaming at them that thats
their Titles dammit! ::

Cole: Well here We Go! Some High Flying Crusier
weight Action!

:: DING DING DING....the bell rings and Bubba and
Rey start off ::

:: Bubba and Rey Lock up and Bubba just throws
Rey to the other side of the ring::

Cole: Well, Thats a major difference, the power,
but still, They have Speed!

:: Bubba and rey Lock up again and this time rey
moves behind Bubba and Dropkicks him in the
knee ::

Tazz: good Teqnique by Mysterio here, he is using
Attack moves to wear down the opponent

:: Rey hits some Punches on Bubba but soon,
Bubba blocks one of the punches and Slaps
Rey on the Chest HARD getting a OOOO from the
crowd::

Cole: My God! Bubba Ray just Slapped Rey HARD
and apparently Rey felt it hard...

:: Bubba Picks up Rey and Whips him to the ropes
and rey bounces back only to get Clothlined from
bubba ray::

Tazz: Well, you cant expect everything to be
pretty with a match involving the dudley's...

Cole: Well, Bubba goes for the pin 1....2..no! Rey
JUST gets a hand up..

:: Bubba Ray picks of Rey and delivers a Hard Punch
to the back of Rey, and Headbutts Rey::

Tazz: Well, if this is an example of who will win,
Rey, London, Kidman, get ready for a beating!

:: Bubba Irish whips Rey and Rey bounces back,
and gets Backdrop high into the air and gets pinned
1.............2.......NO!::

Cole: Well Tazz, if they keep on working like a team
just like Kidman just helped rey out with the pin...
This could be an upset!

:: Bubba Drags Rey into the Corner and Tags in Spike ::

Cole: Tag to Spike...

:: Spike start out with a slap to the face, and spitting on Rey::

Cole: Oh come on! Now Spike is just adding Inslut to Injury!

Tazz: Well, its working apparently!

:: Spike hits a Dropkick and only gets a fast 2 count...Spike picks
Rey up and whips him into the corner... he runs at Rey but Rey
puts his feet up and connects! Rey then proceeds to do a Hurricanrana
but Spike reverses it into an Alley-Oop! He goes for the pin

Cole: 1......2.......NO! Rey just getting out! But I have to give Spike
his credit...he pulled out a Big-Show-ish like alley-Oop out of nowhere!

:: Spike picks Rey up but Rey starts to figh back with hard punches
and eventually hits a hurricanrana Pin, only for just a 2 count.... Rey
and Spike both get up and Rey Arm Drags Spike...Spike gets up and
runs again to Rey only to get Arm Dragged Again::

Tazz: Well Rey is just looking down on a furious spike!

:: Spike signals for a Test of strength...Rey accepts and proceeds to
get in the hold but Spike gets in a cheap shot to the gut and irish whips
Rey , but Rey reveres it and Whips him into His corner ::

Cole: Very Good Textbook reversal right here by Rey and Tags in
Billy Kidman!

:: billy Kidman goes crazy on spike with loads of punches and hits a
dropkick! Kidman Picks Spike up and hits an upper cut and drives him
into a corner...he runs at spike and hits devestating drop kick!! Billy Looks
at DVon and Bubba and taunts them...Spiek comes from behind and does a
rollup.........1...........2..........no!

Tazz: Im tellin ya Kidman, dont get youyr eye out of your oppponent, just bad
stategy!!!!!!!

:: Billy Kidman gets up and hits a clotheline....another.......and spike runs
at him and gets layed down with a powerslam! 1...........2..........no! Spike
gets up and tries to dropkick Kidman but Kidman just moves and hits his
own Dropkick........1........2.........no!!!! spike goes under Kidman and
tags DVon ::

Cole: A Tag to DVon....and to start things up with DVon, he hits a nice
Clothline to Kidman.1.........2......no!

:: Kidman runs over to DVon bt DVon counters with an Arm Drag....DVon picks
Kidman and gabs Kidman's Head and hits a Snapmare.....he then hits
a modified Throwback! ::

Cole: 1.........2.........no! Again, Kidman has heart to get off on of these!

:: DVon picks Kidman and Whips him but Kidman counters that into
a Dropkick....but DVon countered THAT into a DEVASTATING Powerbomb!!!!!

Tazz: Holy........ My God!!! WOW!!!!! Both men are out from that HUGE Powerbomb!

:: Ref begins to count....1....................2...........................3...............4
.......................5.............................6 ::

:: Both Kidman and DVon are getting up, and kidman tags London while
DVon tags in Bubba ::

:: London runs and hits a nice Dropkick on Bubba sending him down,
Spike runs out and gets hammered with a Tirt-a-whirl Slam by London!
DVon is trying to get up but Rey gets on the top rope an sends him down
with a diving Hurrucanrana! ::

Cole: Well....All Hell Broke Loose!!!!!!!!!

:: London hits a Enziguiri on Spike sending him down on the 2nd Rope....
Rey looks at Spike and is gonna hit the 619 ::

Tazz: Its 619 time cole! Rey is calling home!!!!!!!!

:: Rey almost hits it but Spike grabbed his legs and threw Mysterio out
of the ring! Spike gets London and hits the Dudley Dog....but London keeps
Spike in the air.... ::

Taz:: Well......what the hell is this?

:: Kidman Comes in and London puts him on Kidman's Shoulders....
Powerbomb to Spike! Bubba comes running in but gets hit with an enziguiri
from London ::

cole: Look Tazz..........Kidman is getting up on the top rope!

Tazz: Time for one of the most Beautiful moves in the business!!

:: Kidman lands with the SSP on Spike ::

Cole: 1.................2..................3!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tazz: THATS IT COLE!!!!!!!! Rey and kidman and london have won!!!!!

:: the winners stay in the ring celebrating ::