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07/28/2010 06:00 PM (UTC)
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For that match to have worked, Nexus should've cheated more, 'cause the idea is that they act like a team. So, eliminating Jerry Lawler, Hart and Goldust with barely any outside interference, it builds them without drawing heat and deflates well established workers. Yeah, they should've won, for sure, but not as cleanly. All the heat they got was by doing the same thing they've been doing over and over.
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Villearreal92
07/28/2010 07:16 PM (UTC)
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Shyriu Wrote:
For that match to have worked, Nexus should've cheated more, 'cause the idea is that they act like a team. So, eliminating Jerry Lawler, Hart and Goldust with barely any outside interference, it builds them without drawing heat and deflates well established workers. Yeah, they should've won, for sure, but not as cleanly. All the heat they got was by doing the same thing they've been doing over and over.


That was pretty much my outlook too. It was obvious Nexus was going to win, but...so quickly? So cleanly? Bogus man...Especially how easily Henry was eliminated. He's supposed to be a HUGE powerhouse, and he's down after ONE clothsline? Whatever man...
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07/29/2010 03:09 PM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:

Nexus slaughtering the majority of RAW is a mistake though, as every one of them that isn't named Wade Barret will be back in FCW before the year ends.


yeah i agree with you


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What's your opinion on the ECW reunion PPV TNA is gonna put on?

I think people are gonna react negativly and not give it a chance just because it's TNA and because it's been done before...

Personally, i think as long as they do what WWE did with the first One Night Stand, then it's gonna be a sucsess...Meaning no TNA gimmicks, No authority figures from the company financing (In this case TNA, but Vince kept his nose out of the first ONS), and just the ECW originals do what they wanna do.


TNA's ECW PPV i could care less. as long as it's a one night stand thing then good, but if they drag it out longer than that's not a good thing. send the ECW guys out the proper way, unlike how WWE did it. but please for the love of all things holy LET ECW DIE AND STAY DEAD! aside from the occassional dvd release! grin

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As for Miz, i'm with Zent on this one...Miz paid his dues. He's excelent on the Mic, solid in the ring...he's good all-around. I'm happy someone who started out as crap, and made the improvements get pushed like he deserves.


Fuck Miz! never liked him, never will. no amount of convincing will change my opinion on him. i hope he cashes in MITB and fails
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07/29/2010 04:18 PM (UTC)
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His angle is being well played. For once, they aren't giving the title that easily.

It makes me think of how Miz is not as good as many others, not even on the mic. Kennedy had a lot of heat and was awesome on the mic. He would've been one of the biggest stars fast, but damn if that guy was unlucky to get injured so much. Anyway, now in TNA where everyone gets buried by someone else depending on the week. Let's hope the ECW thing is good.
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Zentile
07/30/2010 01:40 AM (UTC)
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Shyriu Wrote:
For that match to have worked, Nexus should've cheated more, 'cause the idea is that they act like a team. So, eliminating Jerry Lawler, Hart and Goldust with barely any outside interference, it builds them without drawing heat and deflates well established workers. Yeah, they should've won, for sure, but not as cleanly. All the heat they got was by doing the same thing they've been doing over and over.


You make a great point. The numbers game and team work should have been more a part of their victory, not just each Nexus member eliminating a guy by themselves.

But again, none of the members of team RAW lost any credibility. Hell, Goldust and Jerry Lawler are only there to put people over anyway.
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TheMkGeek
07/30/2010 03:21 PM (UTC)
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Shyriu Wrote:
His angle is being well played. For once, they aren't giving the title that easily.

It makes me think of how Miz is not as good as many others, not even on the mic. Kennedy had a lot of heat and was awesome on the mic. He would've been one of the biggest stars fast, but damn if that guy was unlucky to get injured so much. Anyway, now in TNA where everyone gets buried by someone else depending on the week. Let's hope the ECW thing is good.


I'm hoping either R-Truth or Orton spoils Miz' shot and he's the first MITB winner not to cash in and win. he's not WWE Championship material. not when there's more talented guys on the roster who've been there longer and deserve it more.

and yeah it's too bad about Kennedy in the WWE. had he not been fucked by Orton who knows how far he'd have progressed. but in TNA he's not doing too bad.

I'm waiting to get the ECW thing on DVD. not going to order it on PPV
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Villearreal92
07/30/2010 07:48 PM (UTC)
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I miss when Goldust was mildy serious
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Zentile
08/02/2010 12:59 PM (UTC)
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I've put a couple more of my matches online on Youtube if any of you guys would like to check them out.

Pegasus vs Ricardo Costa


Pegasus vs Bernardo Barreiros
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TheMkGeek
08/03/2010 10:42 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
I've put a couple more of my matches online on Youtube if any of you guys would like to check them out.

Pegasus vs Ricardo Costa


Pegasus vs Bernardo Barreiros


cool

Villearreal92 Wrote:
I miss when Goldust was mildy serious


yeah no kidding, and wasn't jobbing
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08/04/2010 12:29 AM (UTC)
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-- There are a series of reports making the rounds among the wrestling media today regarding Samoa Joe and TNA Wrestling. We know that Joe "blew up backstage" following his time limit draw finish with Jeff Hardy that aired on TNA iMPACT! two weeks ago. Joe was said to be very upset with production team members Keith Mitchell and David Sahadi, along with Vince Russo, for allowing Jeremy Borash to announce on the mic that 30 seconds remained in the match. He was said to have felt it telegraphed the finish. TNA President Dixie Carter was said to have been around when Joe blew up backstage. Joe was not at the recent set of iMPACT! TV tapings last Monday and Tuesday in Orlando and one source is reporting that he may have been suspended indefinitely by the company as a result of his backstage blow up. We're told he's expected to be out around a month. The main issue was that he went inside the production truck which is a big no-no. It remains to be seen if he was scheduled for time away from TNA ahead of time by not attending the tapings last week. We will continue to follow this story as it develops.

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Zentile
08/04/2010 01:41 AM (UTC)
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Samoa Joe should just quit TNA wrestling. The treatment of his character has been absurdly bad, and I don't even like him! I'm very much not a fan at all of Samoa Joe, in fact I think he's over rated, and even I can tell they've been massively screwing up with him.

On a related note,
In an interview with PWI recently, AJ Styles showed frustration over some of TNA's recent mistakes and his title loss to RVD.

AJ Styles has been the ONE guy who has been supporting every damn thing TNA says and does since the very beginning. When you've got AJ complaining, you know there's a fucking problem. Unless you're Dixie Carter who seems to be completely oblivious to everything.

Recently, Chris Jericho has gone on the record in an interview and called TNA's booking crap amongst other things.

The fucking God of Pro wrestling is publicly blasting your booking, TNA.
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08/04/2010 04:45 AM (UTC)
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TNA has been detrimental to Joe's career post-2006. He needs to leave as soon as possible and do another Z-1 tour. A series of good matches against good opponents, with lots of press hype. It's not too late for him to become Hashimoto Jr like he should always have been. Marufuji just got injured (thank God) and removed from the G-1; they could easily have Joe replace him, which would just be good for everyone. Wishful thinking I guess. But that's where Joe was born to be. Not floundering in Russo's soap opera having nonsensical daylight riddled matches against WWE failures.
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08/04/2010 05:49 AM (UTC)
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lol TNA discussion in a wrestling thread. TNA hasn't been relevant since...yeah. Even with all the talent in the world they fail to make an interesting show.

Anyhoo, Mini Rant on the state of the WWE:

When the Nexus first took over, I was skeptical that they could make it work. The idea that seven rookies who were made to look weak could just take over the WWE like this was laughable. Wade Barret and Otunga were the only two that I gave a damn about.

So then this invasion turns into a huge ordeal. The Nexus takes out McMahon with no repercussions, takes out WWE stars left and right with no one to stop them and just wrecks havoc. I just couldn't help but think that this was fucking stupid. How are seven rookies taking over the WWE? How is this even possible?

Now we're getting Team Raw vs. Nexus, and I'll admit they're building it up to be a fun match. All the guys on Team Raw are pulling their weight and making it look like they have problems with each other. Even Khali's somewhat interesting. But really, its the Raw side that makes it fun. Nexus does nothing for me.

They could have done something more believable, like having mid carders turn on the WWE and feature Barret as their leader. Make it seem like Barret is a master manipulator that can turn MVP, Henry, Morrison and some other midcarders on the WWE. The Raw team could have included Bourne, R Truth, Cena, Y2J, Edge and HHH. Then give HHH a heel turn to mix things up. Right now it just seems to unreal that six crap rookies and one mediocre rookie could take over Raw.

Also, why is the Miz still carrying the US title? The WWE has made it so that the WWE/World Champions are the only things that matter. When was the last time we got a US Championship match? And what happened to the entire tag team division? Make titles relevant again!
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~Crow~
08/04/2010 01:14 PM (UTC)
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The tag team division is dead. Again.
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Zentile
08/04/2010 02:57 PM (UTC)
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Shibata Wrote:
TNA has been detrimental to Joe's career post-2006. He needs to leave as soon as possible and do another Z-1 tour. A series of good matches against good opponents, with lots of press hype. It's not too late for him to become Hashimoto Jr like he should always have been. Marufuji just got injured (thank God) and removed from the G-1; they could easily have Joe replace him, which would just be good for everyone. Wishful thinking I guess. But that's where Joe was born to be. Not floundering in Russo's soap opera having nonsensical daylight riddled matches against WWE failures.


Even though I like Marafuji, your hatred for him is pretty funny.

Yeah like I said I'm not a fan of Joe but even I have to admit he's going to complete waste in TNA. Losing clean to Orlando fucking Jordan is ridiculous.



As for the Nexus thing, people are sort of forgetting the point of the angle. Besides the fact that it's an entertaining and fresh storyline, it also has a business point, and that is to make a future for the WWE. Why would you want to put Henry, MVP and Morrison on this angle when that would do nothing for the ''future'' of the company? They're making 7 new stars, that's the real marketing point of the Nexus.
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~Crow~
08/04/2010 06:38 PM (UTC)
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The problem with Nexus is pretty clear though. Some of them "have it", and some of the others are clearly just hired grunts. That's why when they do a promo, you typically only hear Barret, Tarver and Otunga speak while the others loom around in the background.
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Zentile
08/04/2010 06:40 PM (UTC)
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Yeah that is true. Most members of Nexus don't really seem to have the potential to get big.
Barrett's a sure thing as far as the main event goes. Gabriel and Otunga will make strong midcarders.
I'm hoping Tarver will get somewhere but his ring work really needs to improve.
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~Crow~
08/04/2010 08:52 PM (UTC)
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Gabriel needs to do some sort of "fallen angel" or Mordecai type gimmick. His name is Justin Gabriel. I think he's used something like that before outside of the main WWE roster, too lazy to check. He's good in ring, but I don't know that he has the charisma to make it or not.
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Zentile
08/04/2010 09:13 PM (UTC)
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Well you don't need charisma to be a strong midcarder.

He was actually called Justin Angel in FCW. Mordecai might be taking it too far but we'll see what they do when they split up. I can see Heath Slater getting released, Skip Sheffield working a powerhouse gimmick for a while in the midcard, and Otunga go strong on Smackdown! while Barrett works RAW.
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08/04/2010 09:26 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
Shibata Wrote:
TNA has been detrimental to Joe's career post-2006. He needs to leave as soon as possible and do another Z-1 tour. A series of good matches against good opponents, with lots of press hype. It's not too late for him to become Hashimoto Jr like he should always have been. Marufuji just got injured (thank God) and removed from the G-1; they could easily have Joe replace him, which would just be good for everyone. Wishful thinking I guess. But that's where Joe was born to be. Not floundering in Russo's soap opera having nonsensical daylight riddled matches against WWE failures.


Even though I like Marafuji, your hatred for him is pretty funny.

Yeah like I said I'm not a fan of Joe but even I have to admit he's going to complete waste in TNA. Losing clean to Orlando fucking Jordan is ridiculous.



As for the Nexus thing, people are sort of forgetting the point of the angle. Besides the fact that it's an entertaining and fresh storyline, it also has a business point, and that is to make a future for the WWE. Why would you want to put Henry, MVP and Morrison on this angle when that would do nothing for the ''future'' of the company? They're making 7 new stars, that's the real marketing point of the Nexus.


When was the last time you saw MVP on TV? MVP, Morrison, Bourne and Henry sure as hell could have used the push more than the rookies like what's his face. WWE could have easily made those guys big stars over a bunch of untested rookies. Evan Bourne deserved the push over Heath Fucking Slater.

I just don't like it. Its fresh and its cool the WWE is finally realizing that Cena, HHH and Taker aren't going to last forever, but why these rookies over some of the midcarders?
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~Crow~
08/04/2010 09:42 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
Well you don't need charisma to be a strong midcarder.

He was actually called Justin Angel in FCW. Mordecai might be taking it too far but we'll see what they do when they split up. I can see Heath Slater getting released, Skip Sheffield working a powerhouse gimmick for a while in the midcard, and Otunga go strong on Smackdown! while Barrett works RAW.


I personally liked Mordecai. I was a big fan of all of Fertig's stuff though, I really like that sort of wrestler. The Undertaker and Kane are getting up there, they can't last forever. Mordecai could have carried on that sort of sinister, imposing legacy.
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Zentile
08/04/2010 10:18 PM (UTC)
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I really liked Mordecai even though he wasn't my type of wrestler at all. He had potential, and I'll never understand why they gave up on him.
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~Crow~
08/04/2010 11:16 PM (UTC)
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Sort of a recurrent theme with Kevin Fertig characters. Kevin Thorn was pushed like mad for a month, then he's paired up with Stevie Richards. They just never seemed to know where to go with him.
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08/05/2010 12:23 AM (UTC)
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Speaking of crazy stuff

I only just saw that the Global Championship is now the TV championship. In honor of Ric Flair. Huh.

I wonder if they actually ever changed the plates on the belt? I bet they still say ''Legends Title''.
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08/05/2010 01:29 AM (UTC)
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SubMan799, MVP has been in Smackdown for weeks on end since like two months and a half plus NXT.

Anyway, still, WWE had an interesting idea, but they need a lot more polish.


TNA is incredible! They have a natural talent to feature great stars and throw it all out the window! Damn, they must really be doing it on purpose. Someone in TNA is under Vince's control or something. What kind of inbred fucks up storylines like them? Samoa Joe's abduction will always be remembered as one of their best examples.
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