Pink_Ranger •07/16/2010 01:59 PM (UTC) •
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Villearreal92 •07/16/2010 07:16 PM (UTC) •
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Zentile Wrote:
The angle took place in WCW. At one point, the Filthy Animals (Rey Mysterio, Billy Kidman, Eddie Guerrero and Konnan) kidnapped Ric Flair and buried him in the desert. A couple of months later Ric Flair returned and the event was never mentioned again.
Now Samoa Joe was kidnapped months ago and then he returned and nobody mentioned the kidnapping. Same VR bullshit as usual.
The angle took place in WCW. At one point, the Filthy Animals (Rey Mysterio, Billy Kidman, Eddie Guerrero and Konnan) kidnapped Ric Flair and buried him in the desert. A couple of months later Ric Flair returned and the event was never mentioned again.
Now Samoa Joe was kidnapped months ago and then he returned and nobody mentioned the kidnapping. Same VR bullshit as usual.
Ah, THAT'S why i don't remember...I've closed out all the Bad memories from the last two years of WCW out of my mind...that's pretty funny though...Russo hasn't had an original idea ever...I DO remember the Joe angle though, but at that point i stopped watching TNA weekly so i didn't care anymore, lol.
Also, i watched your match when you posted it, i thought it was really good. I like your persona. Kinda wish i understood portugese to understand what the promo's were all about, lol
Hey Guys thought I let you know I will be attending the WWE Money in the bank ppv. I will have two signs... "Soltani" and "Cash it in" I should be in view where the regular camera's are at... I am actually looking forward to the ppv, my first steel cage match and ladder match. I should say Ladder matches but I just wish they left the wwe diva's matches off the card and left them to tv only and bring back the cruiser weight division.
Here are other idea's for signs suggested by others... feel free to add...
--"GDYC" God "Dang" you Cole!
--Cole Fail!
--Future member of Nexus
Also to note about the Bryan Danielson's shirt... I want one and I wish he was still around... even thought his wwe apperance was short he actually was in the WWE back in 2003 wrestling Cena and jamie noble with his actual name and background story.
My predicitions for the WWE Money in the Bank PPV:
Sheamus retains.
Mysterio retains.
Orton wins raw's money in the bank.
Mr. Ziggles wins the smackdown's money in the bank.
Hart Dynasty retains.
Eve and Kelly Kelly wins.
Here are other idea's for signs suggested by others... feel free to add...
--"GDYC" God "Dang" you Cole!
--Cole Fail!
--Future member of Nexus
Also to note about the Bryan Danielson's shirt... I want one and I wish he was still around... even thought his wwe apperance was short he actually was in the WWE back in 2003 wrestling Cena and jamie noble with his actual name and background story.
My predicitions for the WWE Money in the Bank PPV:
Sheamus retains.
Mysterio retains.
Orton wins raw's money in the bank.
Mr. Ziggles wins the smackdown's money in the bank.
Hart Dynasty retains.
Eve and Kelly Kelly wins.
SubMan799 •07/19/2010 02:20 AM (UTC) •
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Kane winning the title will definitely make things more interesting. My guess is a Swagger vs. Kane match before the inevitable Taker vs. Kane match.
I am shocked Kane won, probably the one guy in the match I never thought would get the briefcase.
It is interesting though, and Kane and his fans certainly deserve it.
I guess it's going to end in an ''ultimate'' Taker vs Kane match with Taker winning the belt back.
It is interesting though, and Kane and his fans certainly deserve it.
I guess it's going to end in an ''ultimate'' Taker vs Kane match with Taker winning the belt back.
Kane not being buried, great!
Now, Kane will feud with Mysterio until Taker is good to come back, then the little guy will take a vacation. Anyway, whenever it's mystery attack, WWE drops the ball. Remember Rikishi was the one who attacked Stone Cold and Matt Hardy attacking Jeff storyline was ended really poorly.
Now, on top of everything, the Nexus have been hipying "the bigger picture" so much, we know that they don't know what to do. Unless it's the freacking president who made them do it, it doesn't make any sense.
Let's not forget the MITBs were good, even with Show and Henry.
Now, Kane will feud with Mysterio until Taker is good to come back, then the little guy will take a vacation. Anyway, whenever it's mystery attack, WWE drops the ball. Remember Rikishi was the one who attacked Stone Cold and Matt Hardy attacking Jeff storyline was ended really poorly.
Now, on top of everything, the Nexus have been hipying "the bigger picture" so much, we know that they don't know what to do. Unless it's the freacking president who made them do it, it doesn't make any sense.
Let's not forget the MITBs were good, even with Show and Henry.
I doubt they don't know what to do, I'm sure they have a plan. They're just doing the right thing, milking it right and making it as progressive and smooth as possible. This is a great storyline because it's taking so long to get to the end. The worst feuds are the ones that start for no reason and end quickly. If they only want to reveal the big picture at Summerslam, that's damn fine by me. Or on the RAW after, that sounds great too.
I just hope it's not Triple H because that would take all the heat and popularity off of Barret.
EDIT: Oh, and RAW was the shit! Awesome triple threat match to start things off, and the money in the bank spot was great. Miz is awesome.
I just hope it's not Triple H because that would take all the heat and popularity off of Barret.
EDIT: Oh, and RAW was the shit! Awesome triple threat match to start things off, and the money in the bank spot was great. Miz is awesome.
Zentile Wrote:
Miz is awesome.
Miz is awesome.
I disagree, someone else who might have had as much pushes and titles as him would've more heat that him.
MVP had more heat than him when having the title and his feud while having the Tag Team title was longer lasting. Yes, Miz is annoying, but he's naturally annoying and his character has no dept. Sure, he's lightyears away from where he was before teaming with Nitro, but that's because he was the blandest of bland. He's not terrible, but I'm amazed to see him get that much and not yet quite taking more heat.
TheMkGeek •07/21/2010 11:26 PM (UTC) •
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Shyriu Wrote:
I disagree, someone else who might have had as much pushes and titles as him would've more heat that him.
MVP had more heat than him when having the title and his feud while having the Tag Team title was longer lasting. Yes, Miz is annoying, but he's naturally annoying and his character has no dept. Sure, he's lightyears away from where he was before teaming with Nitro, but that's because he was the blandest of bland. He's not terrible, but I'm amazed to see him get that much and not yet quite taking more heat.
Zentile Wrote:
Miz is awesome.
Miz is awesome.
I disagree, someone else who might have had as much pushes and titles as him would've more heat that him.
MVP had more heat than him when having the title and his feud while having the Tag Team title was longer lasting. Yes, Miz is annoying, but he's naturally annoying and his character has no dept. Sure, he's lightyears away from where he was before teaming with Nitro, but that's because he was the blandest of bland. He's not terrible, but I'm amazed to see him get that much and not yet quite taking more heat.
yeah i agree with you. he's not that impressive at all. he does the same shit moves every match. his character needs more time to develop before he's given the big push. hell just read today even he thinks he's not arrived yet.
this is his quote:
"I am not at the level I want to be at. I don't think I have arrived yet. When I arrive, that's when I am on every WWE poster and every time you turn it on Raw, you just want to see what The Miz is going to do."
so he should not be given the WWE Title so soon. at least build it up
Zentile Wrote:
Nah he's awesome and very much over. The only reason he isn't getting as much heat as you'd expect is because he's actually popular. People might not boo him that much but everybody's finishing his ''I'm awesome'' catch phrase.
Nah he's awesome and very much over. The only reason he isn't getting as much heat as you'd expect is because he's actually popular. People might not boo him that much but everybody's finishing his ''I'm awesome'' catch phrase.
*barf!* i don't think it's everybody who's finishing his stupid catch-phrase. i love how maybe only a few people at ringside maybe do so, and it's said "everybody" does it! i despise Miz so much. oh well
so has anyone been reading about TNA's upcoming ECW revival? They've renames their Hard Justice PPV to "Hardcore Justic: One Night Only" or something like that. sounds rather lame.
SubMan799 •07/21/2010 11:33 PM (UTC) •
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Miz is awesome. Did he deserve the push more than guys like Morrison and Christian? eh...
He deserved it more than Sheamus though.
He deserved it more than Sheamus though.
I mean, come on. Miz impresses because he used to be the crappiest of craps, but now he's good. Yet we see Christian doing skits with Hornswoggle and Morrison being the middle-tier go to guy to push people over.(I didn't consider Bourne middle-tier, he lept from nothing to all)
I do love Christian and Morrison and a bit sad they still aren't main event level, but I'm still certain they'll get theirs eventually. Miz is a great talker, and he can really get reactions from people. That's an important skill for a main eventer and I feel he's better at it than Morrison certainly. He's not as good a wrestler as Morrison is, but he's really improved and you can generally tell the guy has tried very hard with it. If someone told me The Miz would ever be even a decent wrestler a few years ago I'd not have believed it.
First of all, I'm not saying Morrison or Christian are worse/deserve less/whatever. I'm a fan of both of those guys, but to be honest I can't stand seeing Morrison at the moment. He can't get me into his matches for a single second when he's a babyface, he's just so lame.
Secondly... There's ''deserving'' and there's ''good business decision''. Tons of wrestlers in the world will ''deserve'' a world title run and main event spot but will never get it for one reason or the other. It's always been clear that the WWE was more behind Morrison then they were behind Miz, Both men got their spot, they worked hard, the crowd reacted and the WWE reacted to the crowd reacting.
Thirdly, the standards by which some of you are defining who deserves what are very questionable. I'm pretty sure Miz has been through hell since the beginning of his career, because that's how wrestling locker rooms are and that's exactly what I would've done to him if I was in a spot like JBL's. I couldn't stand the Miz, all I wanted was for him to leave wrestling forever and let Morrison get his push.
If someone told me I was going to like the Miz over Morrison a year ago I wouldn't have believed them.
Miz could have been broken and left wrestling, but he didn't. He stuck around, got over, made sure he became a better wrestler and paid his dues.
Finally...
I can't think of a more progressive way for a wrestler to get pushed than what they're doing with Miz. Sheamus, Mcyntire and Swagger have practically been shoved down our throats. Miz joined the WWE years ago, started out as just an interview guy, started getting into matches, started winning some matches, became tag team champion, became an ECW title contender, now he's the U.S. champion and he has the title shot. He's not winning the belt tomorrow, they're doing it progressively.
I can't figure out why anyone would not like the Miz at this point, but even if you don't like him, why would you bitch about a guy who's a company man, does solid work, is over (don't make up bullshit that he's not, because he is), isn't getting injured or caught with drugs, does good promos and isn't a nuisance backstage?
Secondly... There's ''deserving'' and there's ''good business decision''. Tons of wrestlers in the world will ''deserve'' a world title run and main event spot but will never get it for one reason or the other. It's always been clear that the WWE was more behind Morrison then they were behind Miz, Both men got their spot, they worked hard, the crowd reacted and the WWE reacted to the crowd reacting.
Thirdly, the standards by which some of you are defining who deserves what are very questionable. I'm pretty sure Miz has been through hell since the beginning of his career, because that's how wrestling locker rooms are and that's exactly what I would've done to him if I was in a spot like JBL's. I couldn't stand the Miz, all I wanted was for him to leave wrestling forever and let Morrison get his push.
If someone told me I was going to like the Miz over Morrison a year ago I wouldn't have believed them.
Miz could have been broken and left wrestling, but he didn't. He stuck around, got over, made sure he became a better wrestler and paid his dues.
Finally...
I can't think of a more progressive way for a wrestler to get pushed than what they're doing with Miz. Sheamus, Mcyntire and Swagger have practically been shoved down our throats. Miz joined the WWE years ago, started out as just an interview guy, started getting into matches, started winning some matches, became tag team champion, became an ECW title contender, now he's the U.S. champion and he has the title shot. He's not winning the belt tomorrow, they're doing it progressively.
I can't figure out why anyone would not like the Miz at this point, but even if you don't like him, why would you bitch about a guy who's a company man, does solid work, is over (don't make up bullshit that he's not, because he is), isn't getting injured or caught with drugs, does good promos and isn't a nuisance backstage?
Miz is good, I wouldn't call him awesome. Just solid. He's a good wrestler now and his mic work is very good, but then there are also greats there. Also, he's got heat, yes, but getting so much should've taken him way farther.
Indeed, he has been given all middlecard titles there are and then some, but he's also featured in NXT, the only one to come back, etc.
My point is not Miz sucks... not anymore, but he's not awesome.
Indeed, he has been given all middlecard titles there are and then some, but he's also featured in NXT, the only one to come back, etc.
My point is not Miz sucks... not anymore, but he's not awesome.
Villearreal92 •07/24/2010 01:39 AM (UTC) •
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What's your opinion on the ECW reunion PPV TNA is gonna put on?
I think people are gonna react negativly and not give it a chance just because it's TNA and because it's been done before...
Personally, i think as long as they do what WWE did with the first One Night Stand, then it's gonna be a sucsess...Meaning no TNA gimmicks, No authority figures from the company financing (In this case TNA, but Vince kept his nose out of the first ONS), and just the ECW originals do what they wanna do.
As for Miz, i'm with Zent on this one...Miz paid his dues. He's excelent on the Mic, solid in the ring...he's good all-around. I'm happy someone who started out as crap, and made the improvements get pushed like he deserves.
I think people are gonna react negativly and not give it a chance just because it's TNA and because it's been done before...
Personally, i think as long as they do what WWE did with the first One Night Stand, then it's gonna be a sucsess...Meaning no TNA gimmicks, No authority figures from the company financing (In this case TNA, but Vince kept his nose out of the first ONS), and just the ECW originals do what they wanna do.
As for Miz, i'm with Zent on this one...Miz paid his dues. He's excelent on the Mic, solid in the ring...he's good all-around. I'm happy someone who started out as crap, and made the improvements get pushed like he deserves.
Well, five days after the last post... guess that shows how much enthusiasm there is for that reunion.
Anyway, I really think it was dumb to bury the 2nd Raw team so fast Monday. Even the Tag Team champions were made to be really week. How were these guys supposed to be beat after only a Zig Zag? Anyway, bad decision on top of putting Bret Hart in a match where he won't wrestle, AGAIN, and not even have him show up on Raw, which he won't do again next week since they were both taped at the same time.
Anyway, I really think it was dumb to bury the 2nd Raw team so fast Monday. Even the Tag Team champions were made to be really week. How were these guys supposed to be beat after only a Zig Zag? Anyway, bad decision on top of putting Bret Hart in a match where he won't wrestle, AGAIN, and not even have him show up on Raw, which he won't do again next week since they were both taped at the same time.
Well he sort of had a good reason not to show up, I heard he got married over the weekend and was on his honeymoon. That > RAW probably.
Nexus slaughtering the majority of RAW is a mistake though, as every one of them that isn't named Wade Barret will be back in FCW before the year ends.
Nexus slaughtering the majority of RAW is a mistake though, as every one of them that isn't named Wade Barret will be back in FCW before the year ends.
SubMan799 •07/28/2010 08:44 AM (UTC) •
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Otunga has a chance
They had to have the Nexus slaughter the RAW team. These guys have barely wrestled, so they need to get established as capable fighters, bad. The story is that they are so united that not one of them gets eliminated, while Jericho's team is completely at war within itself.
The Nexus needed a win way more than guys like Bourne, Mark Henry and the Hart Dynasty. They haven't lost any credibility from the match with Nexus, while Nexus' stock got a lot higher.
The Nexus needed a win way more than guys like Bourne, Mark Henry and the Hart Dynasty. They haven't lost any credibility from the match with Nexus, while Nexus' stock got a lot higher.
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