I couldn't understand much of what you wrote because your grammar sucks so much, but I never said your opinions were wrong _NE0_. You probably do know a lot about MK and you probably are a great player. Maybe the best. Like I said though, I don't care if you're the best and I doubt anyone else does either. This is the high level gameplay thread. Not the "I'm an annoying bragging bitch who won't stfu" thread. Post something useful.

i used to post lots of useful things back in the mkda days but people like u flamed my facts that i would post. however, that being said....... i am willing to burry the hatchet and post some stuff. everyone, lets not pull an mkda and start a flame was cuz someone has a OPINION that differs from the FACTS i am gonna post later.

Lol, QPCuplet you're cool and all, but if I were Bill i'd totally be acting like him right now too if ive been told time and time again I suck only to rape everyone who says so..come on now! Bill talks shit..so fucking what? Is there ANY top player in any fighter whos actually humble? I can name a few off my head, but most talk shit. MKL will tell you when you're good, why can't he say hes good himself? We all talk shit..myself,reptilestyle even SST! We back it up with wins..so what's the big deal? It's not like we're assholes, we just have a bit of an ego.It used to annoy me too but just accept the truth and don't bitch. Scorpio is one of the people who talked shit. I know damn he's got the game so it's time to put up..thats all.

BTW my gamertage is going to be VersatileBJN for serious fights, and BAJANCHRIST when im just fucking around with the boys. So add me on for that shit. I already got the PS2 adaptor and everything im just workin on getting the cable

PS2 online only allows 8 characters for a name.

ok, i have a lot to add but for right now i'm gonna talk about sub-zero strats.


sub needs to be played ONLY in kori stance. his other 2 stances r 99.99999% high moves and u will get killed. now, sub isnt an offensive character. he doesnt get many chances to combo at all. he may get 3 or 4 chances a match at most vs a good player and with breakers in the game it prevents sub for getting the big damage from his juggles so its best to use combos that cannot be broken and do good damage then make them come to u wich is subs strength. the basic strat is to use the ice clone but not the standard freeze move too much because this is how people get in on sub. instead clone close to them and advance. u can advance and back up and turtle some more then clone again or anvance in after the clone and poke with 1, 1 b1, b2,b4, throw, etc. i either throw, do a distanced b2, or b4. the range on subs attacks and the fact that they r mid makes people block standing alot which allows sub to get some throw attampts. when crouching his best crouching low is ducking 3. i use this when couching high attacks or throws. when u block someting with lag punish with b2 then use the d2 uppercut to finish because once they r in the air they cant breaker the d2. this does 23% with them in a non weapon stance wither ther r frozen or not and 28% with them in a weapon stance. after this come in and u can mix up with a thorw,b2 ,b4, clone and turtle up, or clone then come in for a mixup. when using b2 make sure u do it from a little farther out then point blank range. u should be ablu to bd to safety or crouch their next move. once u r up 30% or more u need to have infinite patience and turtle behind the clone. MAKE THEM COME TO U. 1 more thing.... i see lots of kobra players online but they never use him damaging combos so i'll post some so more people know shorin ryu... 4, 21(1)33 39% 2114,21(1)33 42%

Nice one. I dont have the game as i live in the uk. But i guess i know where i'll be coming, to check out scorp combos.
Scorpion is my favourite character also.
Would anyone be kind enough to try something out for me?
Someone mentioned that you can throw scorpions spear out, side step then throw it again. What i want to know is repetitive enough to be classed as an infinite?
i.e continously?

54% Sub combo plus others.

Scorpion-----
Someone mentioned scorpion's hellfire after a throw....this will not work if opponent rolls out of throw.

Dairou-------
Also, Dairou is so frickin ridiculous its hilarious. His first stance is worthless. His second stance has b-1 is a nice mid pop-up and should be used as his primary.

His tombstone move owns everyone. In order to effectively use it though, you need a consistent air juggle to maximize dmg. Dairou's best move following a tomb-popup is U-2 (in second stance). Reason: If you are too close and popup makes opponent go over you, u-2 will auto turn and hit them, but if they are in front of you, unless you are at max distance across screen, a FF + U-2 will connect everytime.

Following the u2, juggler use either #1) u2 + 3 + 1 + u2 or #2) 2 + 3 + 4 + ss. I prefer to stay in second stance so i dont use #2.

Counter-combo: A nice counter for Dairou is simply blocking, then b-1, b-1, then either combo #1 or #2 above.

Death-trap: If you are with back to death trap, a tomb-popup will make opponent fly over your head, and a subsequent u2 will end the air juggle because you are too close too wall zone. However, if you are a step away from death trap wall, and you do tomb popup, again, opponent will fly over you(if close enough), but the subsequent u2 can be further combo'd, and you can hit oppnent into the death trap.


Enjoy people disconnecting after using this strategy.
-Pikeworm

All MKL is saying is right. The things I posted earlier in the high level gameplay thread is for the most part outdated ,but can still be used to some point. MKL's style of using Sub to me seems much more effective vs the better characters in the game.

Also not sure if i posted it here, but if Kunlun Dao: 2 with Li Mei hits, a throw is guaranteed.

Konqrr, you still haven't been recieving my PMs?

If you haven't, the PM system is fucked up. Try PMing me, and let's see if it goes through. Really need to discuss something with you.

SWB do me a favor and tell me what that 54% with Sub is..I cannot DL konqr's vids for some reason, and he has a bad habit of not replying to anything I say..heh.

if i cant have more than eight characters I sure hope Verse or something isnt taken.

Kori b+2, f, 5 (SC to Shoto), 1,2, 1,2,4,5,2,u+4, Cold Shoulder.

---Minor misprint earlier in my above post ------
Following the u2, juggler use either #1) u2 + 3 + 1 + u2 or #2) 2 + 3 + 4 + ss. I prefer to stay in second stance so i dont use #2.
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this should have read: #1) 2 + 3 + 1 + u2

Bump
excellent thread it cant get burried!
Great info fellaz Thx alot! I'll try to contribute when i get some more time.

I can't believe that nobody mentioned Bo Rai Cho as a 'top tier character' yet he is maybe not a favorite, but WOW... sumo does a lot of damage and is a quicker stance to go forward then drunken fist(i'm not talking about the hits, but just about the moving in the forward direction).


I have not play with the characters at their fullest yet and I'm far away from an expert of the game, but IMO(not the official one)

the 3 top characters are:

- Scorpion
-Shujinko
-Bo Rai Cho


I didn't put Liu Kang because I didn't use him a lot yet and I think that Hotaru is overrated, his combos are limited and a good player can see his fireball come from a mile away. I also think that Noob-Smoke is not that good(but keep in mind that I'm an average player, not a top notch player in MKD), so the list that I make is a top list for an average player.

Liu Kang is top simply because of his Jun Fan 1,1,3 combo. It hits High, then Mid so you have to block it high which leaves you open to a throw or a D+3 kick. Plus the easy damage, and low fireball which catches alot of people off guard.

I'd say Dairou, Liu, Scorp, Shujinko, Hotaru are the best. That's my opinion though.

top 2 characters r dairou and jade....liu maybe #3


anyway, theres a glitch in mkd where u can fly/superjump. u can actually go full screen with it. i made a vid and i'll upload it to konqrr as soon as i catch him.

LoL! You crazy sonofabitch! Findin jump-canceling and now a superjump? WTF?
Well, i just unlocked Jade recently so I'll have to check her out. It's kinda obvious she'd be top cuz some scrubs have fucked me up with her. 2,1 is 2 hits 22% damage??? Thats just a little whacked!

the funniest thing is that I actually know what he's talking about. I found that this morning.

Here's an Ermac combo I thought of. I have not tested it yet, though. Anyone care to try and tell me the damage percentage?

I am pretty sure the combo is doable.

Choy Lay Fut 1,1,b+2, Teleslam, 5(to Axe), 1,3,4,4,4, Teletoss.

I tried that combo but i am to slow with the tele slam and cs. I was wondering if u had any tips on how to tele slam faster. Also, I've been messing around with havik but i cant seem to break out a combo with more than 28%. So far his best Tang soo Do Combo i could find is 2,3,4 I know its not alot of dmage but its fast and knocks them over. Also eather start with a throw and then torso spin but, in morunig star >2,torso spin also works well. If any one can help me with some havik please do.

What about this issue?

http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?id= 31511-------sorry it scrolled off

Also wanted to pop in and give a Jade combo

Fan-zi 2,2,1,cs,4,cs,1,u+3 (change back to Fan-zi) 2,2,1,cs,4,cs,1,u+3

17 hit 44%

not the highest on percentage but I bet you will make their butt pucker when they see you do it on them.

I remember readin that earlier today, but i haven't tried it myself... So, you can just sidestep and repeat the special? thats kinda fucked if you ask me, but it could be usefull.

And for sub, if you wanna always keep a clone out... Clone, ice ball, back dash, clone. don't do it super fast, but if you have some distance and you're not playin someone with a gound pound it'll work.

I believe sub has an infinate in dragon... I've had two people tell me they were trying to block something but couldn't as they were getting up...