I get the feeling Legend just isn't used to talking on the internet and such. Or maybe he's just trying to fluster the competition. Like Muhammad Ali used to do.

this is y i come at white pointer like this.........

White_Pointer Wrote: As I said (I really hate repeating myself), anyone can win with any character if they are good enough with them. No character really has an advantage over any of the others, and the way you are carrying on, they do. This means that you think that the game is grossly imbalanced. Which can't be further from the truth. It all comes down to player skill. Any character can be really powerful if you know how to use them...even characters that have been ranked last in that list, Li Mei, Cyrax and Kitana. I personally can't use any of those characters if my life depended on it (and it's pretty obvious most of you can't either), but I know people who can use them, and use them damn well and will be able to kick just about anyone's arse that challenges them. The choice of character matters not, it's how well you can use that particular character that matters. For the record, my friend who is a Quan Chi player would have a pretty damn good chance of schooling you in the art of playing MK: DA, regardless of the character you choose. I'll re-iterate: Every player has their own Tier List. Every player has strong characters and weak characters. And I'm not going to begin changing my point of view because some guy who claims he's the best player of the game on these forums when there's no way he can prove it, tells me otherwise. White_Pointer

this guy is hard headed. no matter what u say or try to tell him he doesnt understand. look...........he thought nitara could beat drahmin when in fact the match is a slaughter. now the fact that he was way off on this shows that he is wrong and that any character cannot beat any character. thinking that characters like nitara or kitana or cyrax can be played as top tier characters r worng and it will only hold u back. i mean not that u shouldnt play them but if u really want to be an elite player try mastering a better character like reptile, drahmin, Hsu Hao, etc........

MK_Legend Wrote: white_pointer.................NITARA IS BOTTOM TIER FACE IT AND MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHE DOESNT BEAT DRAHMIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U THINK DRAHMIN IS SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IRON CLUB 4!!!!!! IRON CLUB B+2 OR B+3!!!!!!!!!!! A FAST THROW THAT BEATS ALL HER MOVES AND INTERRUPTS ALL HER JAB POKES!!!!!!!!!! A DEVESTATING CORNER TRAP!!!!! HE HAS THE BEST POWER UP SETUPS IN THE GAME!!!!!!! HE HAS AN UNBLOCKABLE GROUNDPOUND THAT JUGGLES AND IS DEVESTATING WHEN USED RIGHT IN CLOSE!!!!!! AND ALL THESE THINGS I MENTIONED ALL LEAD TO POWER UP SETUPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am very sorry about the caps but i dont know how else to get anything through this guys thick skull.

You assume waaay too much MKL.

Every one of those things you just said are based on assumptions. You assume that your opponent is dumb enough to try combos that can be interrupted. Nitara has more than just that big combo I mentioned earlier.

And look, I'm not denying Drahmin is a good character...ok? Go back and read my previous posts and I thought I made that point pretty clear. I'm just saying that a Nitara/Drahmin matchup, where both players are highly skilled with their chosen character, will be very interesting. Both players have an opportunity to win, is all I'm saying. Some characters are harder to win with than others, true, but it's not impossible.

White_Pointer

no, u r wrong..............at the highest level both characters do not have the same chance of winning. this is no assuption, this is not opion, THIS IS FACT!!!!!! just accept it, deal with it, and move on. learn nitara if u like just remember that she is bottom tier and will always suffer to characters like scorpion,Bo,Reptile,Drahmin, Sonya, etc and no matter who players her or how good they r with her she will still be bottom.

Look, I don't want to argue this point any more than you do MKL...I'll just ask you a simple question.

Have you ever played a highly skilled Nitara player? Or are you just basing her bottom Tier belief on your own skill level with her?

Be honest.

White_Pointer

White_Pointer Wrote: Look, I don't want to argue this point any more than you do MKL...I'll just ask you a simple question. Have you ever played a highly skilled Nitara player? Or are you just basing her bottom Tier belief on your own skill level with her? Be honest. White_Pointer

yes, i have played a highly skilled nitara player and i am one as well. u however have never played a top drahmin.

white pointer, do u really believe that MKDA is a balenced game??

MK_Legend Wrote: yes, i have played a highly skilled nitara player and i am one as well. u however have never played a top drahmin.

How can you say that when you don't even know me? o_O I've played an extremely good Drahmin player, who I beat 2-1 in a best of 3 game contest. I wasn't Nitara though, I was Shang Tsung. I couldn't use Nitara if my life depended on it.

MK_Legend Wrote: white pointer, do u really believe that MKDA is a balenced game??

I don't believe any fighting game is PERFECTLY balanced...but I believe MK: DA comes close. Some characters are just harder to win with than others, but it doesn't mean winning with them is impossible. The only other 3D fighter I've played that would have been more balanced than MK: DA would be Soul Calibur.

White_Pointer

White_Pointer Wrote: MK_Legend Wrote: yes, i have played a highly skilled nitara player and i am one as well. u however have never played a top drahmin. How can you say that when you don't even know me? o_O I've played an extremely good Drahmin player, who I beat 2-1 in a best of 3 game contest. I wasn't Nitara though, I was Shang Tsung. I couldn't use Nitara if my life depended on it. MK_Legend Wrote: white pointer, do u really believe that MKDA is a balenced game?? I don't believe any fighting game is PERFECTLY balanced...but I believe MK: DA comes close. Some characters are just harder to win with than others, but it doesn't mean winning with them is impossible. The only other 3D fighter I've played that would have been more balanced than MK: DA would be Soul Calibur. White_Pointer

MKDA is no where near balenced. the fact that u see it that way shows where u r at this point in the game,then again, u thought MK2 was balenced too which is the dumbest thing i haver ever heard(no offence). when u make these comments it shows that u r not high level otherwise u would know these things. ohh and just for the record, Drahmin counters Shang really bad. i wish u could play my drahmin, then u would feel the power.

BTW.......i am not some guy with this huge ego who only listens to his own opinions. I am someone who only tells the truth and speaks only FACT!!! if i say it then its a fact and u better believe thats true!!

I'm the one that said MK2 was balanced, moron. Which it is if you're great with everyone (which I am). Sorry you're only great with certain characters and bad with others. Now for the worst quote in history, "mk4 has tiers too". LOL every character has the same damn combo minus the special moves added to them. The same speed, the same power (minus Jax). The same everything. It's not a matter of who is better than who, it's a matter of which character you're good at. I am good with everyone and have no problem random selecting your ass each and every match. MK having a tier system is a complete joke if you're good with every character. FACT. I will say MKDA is different. I still believe any character can beat any character but each character has his/her own strength which mixes it up a bit but not much.

MK is a matter of block, combo, block, special move, block block block. It's not an incredibly deep fighting series and that is also fact. It's my favorite series hands down but to even argue that is rediculous. Fricking rediculous.

lol.............play me on mame. see how many times u beat me.............. god help u of u ever have to play me in any MK.

quan_chilli Wrote: I'm the one that said MK2 was balanced, moron. Which it is if you're great with everyone (which I am). Sorry you're only great with certain characters and bad with others. Now for the worst quote in history, "mk4 has tiers too". LOL every character has the same damn combo minus the special moves added to them. The same speed, the same power (minus Jax). The same everything. It's not a matter of who is better than who, it's a matter of which character you're good at. I am good with everyone and have no problem random selecting your ass each and every match. MK having a tier system is a complete joke if you're good with every character. FACT. I will say MKDA is different. I still believe any character can beat any character but each character has his/her own strength which mixes it up a bit but not much.

ok, see i'm angry now so i am not going to even attempt to be humble........U R A SCRUB AND AN IDIOT. if u ever played me u would be destroyed BADLY. u wouldnt even come close...............SCRUB!!!

I'll try to decipher that that later and pretend trash talking about videogames still works past the age of 17. I'm getting a new computer this summer sometime so I'll play you. GoD So HelP YU IFF U Pl4y m3

I always thought a scrub was like that TLC song. Not someone who believes a fighting game is balanced enough for random select every match. Must of missed the remix

................

You fool. MK2 is not balanced. Jax is the dominant character in MK2, along with Mileena. You can't beat MKL's Jax or Mileena with someone like Reptile or Sub Zero. They just aren't good enough. Why cant idiots like you see the light? MK is not good because its balanced, its good because its broken and fun. The guy was just trying to help, and you guys have to go and ruin shit. You ignorant fucker. I swear I don't blame MKL for not even wanting to post here anymore. I cant wait till MK6..oh boy I cannot wait till MK6.

You can talk the talk quan, but I bet you can't walk the walk. If you had balls you'd download MAME right now and get MK2 and play MKL. And don't get me started on MKDA. I don't call a game where only 17 or so characters can really compete a balanced game. I love DA, but you obviously can't see the light like I do.

And Bill if you quit because of cock faces like this then maybe they've won.

Oh geez a 15 year old groupie who pretty much has to type for his hero is calling me a cockface. Wow to the retirement home I go. Shut up man. If I had the balls to download MK2 for MAME right now my computer would crash and that in itself would make me cry. Don't worry, I don't back out of challeneges like some people *cough*. I've been playing MK for forever like most everyone here. I don't need someone to tell me how to play and make up my mind like yourself. Since your hero wants to cry about this forum and you guys want to pretend people care, take your own advice, see the light, and i'll provide the boot to lead you to it so maybe the fine people here don't have to put up with know-it-alls who can't see past their own little brain when someone says something against their "beliefs". You idiots want me to accept your OPINIONS but when I try to say mine, it's "lol u suk". There is no "fact" on anything. Don't try that baby crap of "waahh waahh he was trying to help". Here's a dollar. Go rent an argument because you sure as hell can't own one kid.

"Oh geez a 15 year old groupie who pretty much has to type for his hero is calling me a cockface. Wow to the retirement home I go."

First off,COCKFACE, MKL is not my hero. No guy who decides to quit giving people advice just because a couple COCKFACES disagree is no hero of mine. I respect Bill. He gives good info and it's a shame COCKFACES like you have to ruin for the players that actually know what's up(DB,Konqrr,myself,etc). I'm 15..so what? If I ever played you in MKDA I would maul you. Then I would post up how bad I crushed you right here.


"Shut up man. If I had the balls to download MK2 for MAME right now my computer would crash and that in itself would make me cry. Don't worry, I don't back out of challeneges like some people *cough*."

You can believe what you want regarding that, but I know the truth. If I ever played you in MKDA I would annihilate you, and with your mind frame I will crush you when MK6 comes out,too. You don't have the slightest clue about MK. You think it's balanced, but you are wrong. I mean.. I used to be midly like you regarding this game. I used to think I was right, but I was not. The difference between you and me is the fact that I never..ever thought that the game was balanced and that everyone was great. I don't know how old you are, and I honestly don't care, but if you've played MK for so long and you know so much about it wouldn't you acknowledge the fact MK has never been balanced? How sad are you?


"I've been playing MK for forever like most everyone here. I don't need someone to tell me how to play and make up my mind like yourself."

You're right. You need more than that. You need to go read the high leveled gameplay board and talk to some real players. Ask them if any MK game was balanced and see what they say.

"Since your hero wants to cry about this forum and you guys want to pretend people care, take your own advice, see the light, and i'll provide the boot to lead you to it so maybe the fine people here don't have to put up with know-it-alls who can't see past their own little brain when someone says something against their "beliefs"."

I repeat, Bill is not my hero. And the thing is, some people do care about getting the CORRECT info from people who KNOW what the hell they're talking about. Not all of us are ignorant fuckers who can't comprehend simple things such as a game not being balanced. Also, I never said I knew it all. I suck at every MK except DA, but I do have enough common sense to tell you that no MK is balanced. Yes, they do have the same moves, but it's the specials that determine how well the character is. In MKDA if you can't see that the game is not balanced you are more of a COCKFACE than I originally though. Different stances,dirrent moves, different tiers.



"You idiots want me to accept your OPINIONS but when I try to say mine, it's "lol u suk". There is no "fact" on anything."

It's a shame. People like you,queve,etc all have the potential to be good at this game, but you let these stupid rules and narrow mindedness hinder your game. Quan Chilli, you do suck in this game, and you do suck in eveyry other MK game. You may think you're good because you beat little bill bob at your local arcade in a round of MK2, but if you think low tier characters like Reptile,Sub Zero and Scorpion can beat top tiers like Jax,Mileena and Liu Kang you need to get your facts straight. You say there are no facts, but you have no clue at all. Let me see you contribute to the MKDA high leveled gameplay board with some strats as to how Kitana and Cyrax can beat Scorpion and Bo Rai Cho, and I mean good strats. Not the COCKFACE strats you've been reading from other COCKFACES. I want in depth strats, and unless you can deliever you will continued to be made fun of by players who actually know what the hell they are talking about.

"Don't try that baby crap of "waahh waahh he was trying to help". Here's a dollar. Go rent an argument because you sure as hell can't own one kid."

How about you take your dollar back and go buy some strategies since you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Don't bother replying unless you want to get schooled some more by a poor little 15 year old..you COCKFACE

"Versatile Wrote:

First off,COCKFACE, MKL is not my hero. No guy who decides to quit giving people advice just because a couple COCKFACES disagree is no hero of mine. I respect Bill. He gives good info and it's a shame COCKFACES like you have to ruin for the players that actually know what's up(DB,Konqrr,myself,etc). I'm 15..so what? If I ever played you in MKDA I would maul you. Then I would post up how bad I crushed you right here."

You better kiss his ass some more. Backing out of a tournament would make me feel like a...well 15 year old. The problem is he offered advice, got asked for advice, people gave their own advice, he cried, and now your showing your teen angst. This got turned in to a circus because your "clique" couldn't handle other people's opinions. You think you know all and can't handle it. Must suck being that narrow minded. Look in the mirror before you start crying about how other people ruin your one-dimensional mind.


"You can believe what you want regarding that, but I know the truth. If I ever played you in MKDA I would annihilate you, and with your mind frame I will crush you when MK6 comes out,too. You don't have the slightest clue about MK. You think it's balanced, but you are wrong. I mean.. I used to be midly like you regarding this game. I used to think I was right, but I was not. The difference between you and me is the fact that I never..ever thought that the game was balanced and that everyone was great. I don't know how old you are, and I honestly don't care, but if you've played MK for so long and you know so much about it wouldn't you acknowledge the fact MK has never been balanced? How sad are you?"

Later in Metropolis....

"I suck at every MK except DA"

I'm the sad one here because I DO know what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to MK games. You suck at every MK game but DA but you somehow manage to stomach up a reply that tells me how I suck at it. To top it off, you give me advice on games you suck at. WOW! I've been playing MK forever and I believe it's well balanced. Far more than any other fighting game series out there. You're not thinking for yourself here. You're trying to be elite by following the popular opinion with games you know nothing about.


"You're right. You need more than that. You need to go read the high leveled gameplay board and talk to some real players. Ask them if any MK game was balanced and see what they say."

I can think for myself thank you. I will always believe it's balanced. Asking someone else won't change my mind at all.

"I repeat, Bill is not my hero. And the thing is, some people do care about getting the CORRECT info from people who KNOW what the hell they're talking about. Not all of us are ignorant fuckers who can't comprehend simple things such as a game not being balanced. Also, I never said I knew it all. I suck at every MK except DA, but I do have enough common sense to tell you that no MK is balanced. Yes, they do have the same moves, but it's the specials that determine how well the character is. In MKDA if you can't see that the game is not balanced you are more of a COCKFACE than I originally though. Different stances,dirrent moves, different tiers."

Get to a fucking point already. All you keep doing is rambling on about how you and the clique know more than everyone else. It's getting tiresome. You're explaining things to me that need no explanation. If I wanted to know MK games have special moves, I'd go read an MK1 faq and start from the beginning.




"It's a shame. People like you,queve,etc all have the potential to be good at this game, but you let these stupid rules and narrow mindedness hinder your game. Quan Chilli, you do suck in this game, and you do suck in eveyry other MK game. You may think you're good because you beat little bill bob at your local arcade in a round of MK2, but if you think low tier characters like Reptile,Sub Zero and Scorpion can beat top tiers like Jax,Mileena and Liu Kang you need to get your facts straight. You say there are no facts, but you have no clue at all. Let me see you contribute to the MKDA high leveled gameplay board with some strats as to how Kitana and Cyrax can beat Scorpion and Bo Rai Cho, and I mean good strats. Not the COCKFACE strats you've been reading from other COCKFACES. I want in depth strats, and unless you can deliever you will continued to be made fun of by players who actually know what the hell they are talking about."

From the looks of the MK tournament scene, all two of you (you and MKL.....well minus you) will be the only ones attempting to make fun of me. Since you're already trying in this post, no need to waste extra time going to different board. The in depth strat to Kitana and Cyrax beating Scorpion and BRC is to kick their ass first and win the round. Or do what MK as a fighting game was meant to do, block/combo/special move. All the combos except a few minor ones that you can do on your own are already pre-determined. Memorize them and kick ass. There pretty easy.


"How about you take your dollar back and go buy some strategies since you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Don't bother replying unless you want to get schooled some more by a poor little 15 year old..you COCKFACE"

No, I'll keep replying. Over and over again because the things I have said about this little clique of your's is true. You can't accept other people's opinions so you get all mad with that teen angst (though MKL confuses me. isn't he like 25?). The problem with your argument is you keep telling me how good you are and how bad I am because I disagree. I'm not delusional and can accept your opinion that there is a tier list. Hey whatever works for you. All you keep rambling on about is how everyone but you and him are wrong. You've seen the light. Yippie! So seriously, how do you think you're owning me? You're not. While you sit there and think of clever ways to put caps on cockface, what I'm saying is the truth. Not the MK gameplay argument because It's opinion and I never said mine was fact. But your argument is thinking your opinion is a fact and thinking internet disses still work in 2003. You have absoultely nothing so me replying without worrying about getting owned is at about 99.9% right now. Tier list:

Top: Me
Bottom: You

CLEVER!

i will still post, and people can either take my help or leave it. i mean, they're only holding themselves back but thats a choice that they have not me. i cannot force anyone to see the right way to play. they either see it and agree or they dont. thats the way it is. so i'll just leave it at that.

in short, if u dont agree or take the stuff i say as fact then thats fine..........it doesnt effect my gameplay, only yours.

"You better kiss his ass some more. Backing out of a tournament would make me feel like a...well 15 year old. The problem is he offered advice, got asked for advice, people gave their own advice, he cried, and now your showing your teen angst."

Sorry if I don't call "using kenpo over TKD" and "anyone being able to beat anyone" and "tiers being a player's personal opinion" advice. I call it scrubby rubbish.


"This got turned in to a circus because your "clique" couldn't handle other people's opinions. You think you know all and can't handle it. Must suck being that narrow minded. Look in the mirror before you start crying about how other people ruin your one-dimensional mind."

MKDA is one dimensional. Besides a few little squabble like "who's shittier? kitana or cyrax" and stuff like that there really isn't much of an opinion. I didn't make the game. If I did I would try my best to make every character as equal as possible. I would make sure that every stance was balanced and had a use, but you know what? I am not a game designer and I probably never will be. I'm a leader, not a follower. I'm not a part of any clique or underground organization. I'm a regular 15 year old who loves MK and is smart enough to know that tiers are not opinion, and that low tiers have an extremely hard time handling higher tier characters.



"I'm the sad one here because I DO know what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to MK games. You suck at every MK game but DA but you somehow manage to stomach up a reply that tells me how I suck at it.To top it off, you give me advice on games you suck at. WOW! I've been playing MK forever and I believe it's well balanced. Far more than any other fighting game series out there. You're not thinking for yourself here. You're trying to be elite by following the popular opinion with games you know nothing about."

Yea, like I said I suck at most MKs, but I am not the fool who thinks every mk is balanced? No, you are. Am I the retard that thinks the MK series is more balanced than Tekken,Soul Calibur or Virtual Fighter 4? No, you are. Why do I waste my time with idiots like you? You fucking think MK is more balanced than Virtual Fighter! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! Everyone who's reading this and knows what the hell they're talking about when it comes to fighting games should point at QC and laugh they're bottoms off. I don't know much about any fighter but MKDA and a few other games, but if you EVER told someone with a brain larger than a sunflower seed that MK was the most balanced fighter out there they would laugh at you. And you say im trying to be elite and follow the crowd? No, it's more like you're trying to be a little tuty fruity rebel and go against the facts. I love MK. I love it more than any fighting game...ever, but it's fact that the series was never balanced, and saying it's deeper than all other fighters make you look like you're younger than I am.



"I can think for myself thank you. I will always believe it's balanced. Asking someone else won't change my mind at all."

You go on ahead and believe MKDA is balanced. That is fine with me. Live in your world of flying pigs and black Michael Jackson's, I think i'll stay in the real world.



"Get to a fucking point already. All you keep doing is rambling on about how you and the clique know more than everyone else. It's getting tiresome. You're explaining things to me that need no explanation. If I wanted to know MK games have special moves, I'd go read an MK1 faq and start from the beginning."

You want to know why I am better than you and most of the scrubs who disagree with the facts? Because I was eventually willing to see the light and acknowledge the truth of this game. Maybe some day you will,too.


"From the looks of the MK tournament scene, all two of you (you and MKL.....well minus you) will be the only ones attempting to make fun of me. Since you're already trying in this post, no need to waste extra time going to different board. The in depth strat to Kitana and Cyrax beating Scorpion and BRC is to kick their ass first and win the round. Or do what MK as a fighting game was meant to do, block/combo/special move. All the combos except a few minor ones that you can do on your own are already pre-determined. Memorize them and kick ass. There pretty easy."

Me and MKL? Woah, what happened to Konqrr,Ray,DG,Salvidion,JOP,etc? Half the people I just listed I can't stand, but you know what? I respect them because they aren't ignorant and accepted that tiers exist and that the game isn't balanced. Your "strategies" on how Kitana and Cyrax could beat Bo shows how much you know about the game. Since the game is so balanced, QC, why don't you give me some strategies on Cyrax vs Bo. Bo is giving me lots of trouble. He out prioritizes me, does twice as much damage and is always safe even if I block him, so I cannot punish him, but I know that since the game is balanced and since everyone can compete you can give me some strats.

The rest of your "im a 20 year old with no life and I know nothing about MKDA" squabble is kinda big, so I am gonna have to divide it into chapter..kthx.

CHAPTER 1: I'm a nagging idiot who knows jack shit about MKDA. How about you?

"No, I'll keep replying. Over and over again because the things I have said about this little clique of your's is true. You can't accept other people's opinions so you get all mad with that teen angst (though MKL confuses me. isn't he like 25?)."

Yea, you keep replying. I bet all of the people I give strats to and just chill or just people with common sense are laughing their asses off at you. All the other people who were on your side quit with this shit. I had a long chat with White Pointer today, and he really seems to be understanding. Why can't you? And technically, since we're talking about respecting opinions, why can't you accept the good players "opinions" on how the game isn't balanced and that characters like Kit cant beat Bo? Hmmmm?

Chapter 2: More scrub squabble


"The problem with your argument is you keep telling me how good you are and how bad I am because I disagree. I'm not delusional and can accept your opinion that there is a tier list. Hey whatever works for you. All you keep rambling on about is how everyone but you and him are wrong."

The sad thing is, GC, is the fact that there is a tier list! All 23 characters are not balanced like you say. Everyone but me and MKL are not wrong. Konqrr,Ray,DG and most recently White Pointer all know this, it's scrubs like you who just can't seem to get it through their thick skulls. I don't get a kick out of coming here and trying to explain this to you. I'd much rather have a friendly conversation, but it's hard to do that when one person is being outright ignorant. If tiers didn't exist then I would say they didn't exist, but even Virtual Fighter 4, which is considered by most to be the deepest and most balanced fighting game ever, has tiers. The difference is the fact that low tier characters like Pai CAN compete with top tiers like Akira EASILY. Why? Because Virtual Fighter 4 is balanced..MKDA is not. Don't get me wrong, I like MKDA way more, but it's just the truth.

Chapter 3: I realized I am making myself look like a donkey fuck, let me try to cover up.

"You've seen the light. Yippie! So seriously, how do you think you're owning me? You're not. While you sit there and think of clever ways to put caps on cockface, what I'm saying is the truth."

If what you are saying is the truth..how about this.

MK2 - give me some strategies on how Reptile can beat Jax. I can't seem to do it! But since MK2 is one of the most balanced games ever and way more balanced than say, Soul Calibur, you surely can help me..right?

MKDA - Im still waiting for some non scrubby strats on how my Cyrax can beat Bo. Please help me. I know this game is balanced, but I just cant seem to do it!


"But your argument is thinking your opinion is a fact and thinking internet disses still work in 2003."

My argument? Fool, this is every person who has a brain's argument. You're being awfully hypocritical by saying internet disses dont work in 2003, for you just insulted me with the corny ass tier joke. It's pretty sad man. You keep talking about how I am 15 and about my teen angst, but you are being nothing but a hypocrite by replying to me. I told you not to bother, now even people are laughing at you. Let's just co exist. You believe that the game is balanced? LOL..thats cool.

"Sorry if I don't call "using kenpo over TKD" and "anyone being able to beat anyone" and "tiers being a player's personal opinion" advice. I call it scrubby rubbish."

I call it an opinion. Something you can't grasp.

"MKDA is one dimensional. Besides a few little squabble like "who's shittier? kitana or cyrax" and stuff like that there really isn't much of an opinion. I didn't make the game. If I did I would try my best to make every character as equal as possible. I would make sure that every stance was balanced and had a use, but you know what? I am not a game designer and I probably never will be. I'm a leader, not a follower. I'm not a part of any clique or underground organization. I'm a regular 15 year old who loves MK and is smart enough to know that tiers are not opinion, and that low tiers have an extremely hard time handling higher tier characters."

Let me ask you something. How do tiers come about? People forming an opinion correct? Sorry that is not a fact. Without the internet you wouldn't be saying any of this. Here's what happened with you. You got punked by not showing at a tournament. You immediatly changed gears to love MKL so people wouldn't laugh at you. You got owned so damn bad that the only way you could show your face here again is to be friends with the guy. Hey, great. So, now the internet community started making tier lists and all of a sudden you take it as fact. Once an opinion, always an opinion.

"Yea, like I said I suck at most MKs, but I am not the fool who thinks every mk is balanced? No, you are. Am I the retard that thinks the MK series is more balanced than Tekken,Soul Calibur or Virtual Fighter 4? No, you are."

Thank the lord. They have the least amount of balance. I'm glad I agree with myself or else I may look foolish.


"Why do I waste my time with idiots like you?"

Sadly because you probably haven't a life. I wasn't even talking to you but you came at me.

"You fucking think MK is more balanced than Virtual Fighter!"

I personally have never tried Virtual Fighter.

"HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! Everyone who's reading this and knows what the hell they're talking about when it comes to fighting games should point at QC and laugh they're bottoms off."

As much as you wish people were backing you because you obviously need other peoples opinions, I see no one laughing. Is my computer broke that I'm not reading posts?


"I don't know much about any fighter but MKDA"

Correct. Please lets not bring up other fighting games being more balanced when you admit yourself MKDA is the only fighting game you may be decent at. Talk about laughable.


"and a few other games, but if you EVER told someone with a brain larger than a sunflower seed that MK was the most balanced fighter out there they would laugh at you."

Like everyone right now. There are more powerful characters but they can be beaten with anyone. As my experience in the fighting game scene for years has proven me (MK's scene).



"And you say im trying to be elite and follow the crowd? No, it's more like you're trying to be a little tuty fruity rebel and go against the facts. I love MK. I love it more than any fighting game...ever, but it's fact that the series was never balanced, and saying it's deeper than all other fighters make you look like you're younger than I am."

Sorry. No rebel here. I believe everything I say. I'm not going against any opinion. I just disagree with what you guys are saying. This started when MKL laughed at White Pointer's opinion about everyone having their own tier list. I agreed. Need any more explanation?

"You want to know why I am better than you and most of the scrubs who disagree with the facts? Because I was eventually willing to see the light and acknowledge the truth of this game. Maybe some day you will,too. "

No, you saw no light. What you saw was you following someone elses opinion. This happened in the matter of like a month and now all of a sudden you're an expert. Please stop the madness.


"Me and MKL?"

No I removed you from the list. You skip tournaments. Hence me taking you out *shakes head*

"Woah, what happened to Konqrr,Ray,DG,Salvidion,JOP,etc? Half the people I just listed I can't stand, but you know what? I respect them because they aren't ignorant and accepted that tiers exist and that the game isn't balanced."


I believe everyone has their own tier list. I also believe any character can beat any character. You are having a really hard time understanding this. I'd spell it out but I am going to say it 90 more times.


"Your "strategies" on how Kitana and Cyrax could beat Bo shows how much you know about the game. Since the game is so balanced, QC, why don't you give me some strategies on Cyrax vs Bo. Bo is giving me lots of trouble. He out prioritizes me, does twice as much damage and is always safe even if I block him, so I cannot punish him, but I know that since the game is balanced and since everyone can compete you can give me some strats."

Well at the same token, since every character is balanced, why bother giving strategy? Obviously I believe there's no strategy and every character is the same because I said EXACTLY that. I'll let you figure it out yourself. Foo please. I'm not playing your stupid game and just because I don't doesn't mean I don't know what I'm saying.

"The rest of your "im a 20 year old with no life and I know nothing about MKDA" squabble is kinda big, so I am gonna have to divide it into chapter..kthx."

Hey you looked up my age. I'm honored. Need me to PM you my autograph?

"CHAPTER 1: I'm a nagging idiot who knows jack shit about MKDA. How about you?


Yea, you keep replying. I bet all of the people I give strats to and just chill or just people with common sense are laughing their asses off at you."

Good god give it up. No one is laughing. This is a retarded internet feud that you started and keep rambling on about. I'm simply replying because I don't want you going to 7th grade next year thinking you won an internet argument.

"All the other people who were on your side quit with this shit. I had a long chat with White Pointer today, and he really seems to be understanding. Why can't you?"

No one was on my side to begin with unless I missed them. Unlike you, I don't need someone's help protecting my opinion. I can muster it myself thanks. I understand everyone has a tier list. I was always understanding about that. Why can't you understand that? Hmmm...

"And technically, since we're talking about respecting opinions, why can't you accept the good players "opinions" on how the game isn't balanced and that characters like Kit cant beat Bo? Hmmmm?"

I do believe I said: "I'm not delusional and can accept your opinion that there is a tier list. Hey whatever works for you.". Maybe I'm just pretending I said that. If you think Kitana can't beat Bo, I DO NOT CARE! Get it through your damn head. I was attacked here first. I stated my opinion and it got attacked. Now I'm protecting it. Dear god even I wasn't that dumb when I was 15.


"Chapter 2: More scrub squabble




The sad thing is, GC, is the fact that there is a tier list! All 23 characters are not balanced like you say. Everyone but me and MKL are not wrong. Konqrr,Ray,DG and most recently White Pointer all know this, it's scrubs like you who just can't seem to get it through their thick skulls."

Wow even picking up the "scrub" talk 1337 fighting game players say. I'm impressed. I don't plan to change my opinion. You're not accepting it. Not my fault.

"I don't get a kick out of coming here and trying to explain this to you. I'd much rather have a friendly conversation, but it's hard to do that when one person is being outright ignorant."

For stating my opinion? Ouch you must have a REALLY hard time making friends. Unless it's in the book called "FACTS OF LIFE", you can't accept it. But get this, tiers ARE opinions so you must hate yourself. Probably on the verge of suicide.

"If tiers didn't exist"


Before you even begin, I never said tiers didn't exist. Just "official" ones I question.

"then I would say they didn't exist, but even Virtual Fighter 4, which is considered by most to be the deepest and most balanced fighting game ever, has tiers. The difference is the fact that low tier characters like Pai CAN compete with top tiers like Akira EASILY. Why? Because Virtual Fighter 4 is balanced..MKDA is not. Don't get me wrong, I like MKDA way more, but it's just the truth."

I like MKDA way more too and I'm very good with all players. I've never had problems with anyone I've played using anyone. How many tournaments have you been in? 0? Yeah same here. Your opinion on this matter is no better than mine.

"Chapter 3: I realized I am making myself look like a donkey fuck, let me try to cover up.



If what you are saying is the truth..how about this.

MK2 - give me some strategies on how Reptile can beat Jax. I can't seem to do it! But since MK2 is one of the most balanced games ever and way more balanced than say, Soul Calibur, you surely can help me..right?"

Firstly when has my opinion switched here? I'm not covering anything up. Secondly, I suggest playing MK2 more because you admit you're not good at it. Giving advice won't help much. Practice makes perfect.


"My argument? Fool, this is every person who has a brain's argument."

The simple fact you're making this an argument shows your age. I'm simply protecting my opinion. You're trying to shove your opinion down my throat and getting pissed off in the process.

"You're being awfully hypocritical by saying internet disses dont work in 2003, for you just insulted me with the corny ass tier joke."

I thought that was just an obvious sarcastic remark to your clever ways of calling me cockturd or whatever. I didn't expect Seinfeld to come here and offer me a job as a stand up comic. Whatever though.

"It's pretty sad man. You keep talking about how I am 15 and about my teen angst, but you are being nothing but a hypocrite by replying to me."

For protecting my opinion. Now I'm not even going to suggest spelling it out. I've said it about 50 times in this reply alone. If you can't get the clue, not my fault.

"I told you not to bother, now even people are laughing at you. Let's just co exist."

Look at all them laughing smilies in this post directed at me. It's hurting my feelings at this point. I never wanted to not co-exist. You came at me. Simple enough to understand.

"You believe that the game is balanced?"

Yes if you are great with everyone. Whether you want to accept my opinion is up to you. I never said your's was wrong

"thats cool."

Thank you