Pretty dumb if they're in, but if they are oh well? Let's just get an official confirmation and move on. It just doesn't make sense to introduce their child as a new character and still having them. But they're still alive doesn't mean they need to be in the roster.

Pretty dumb if they are out, considering ending of MK9.

Exactly.

Why would they keep them alive when every other hero died if they weren't going to be in MKX? That makes no sense.

IMO, Sindel says Hi :3

Anyway, about the topic: Sonya and Cage can totally pass this game, or maybe just one of them. Love Sonya, she is one of my favs, but can stay away from this one. Don't like Cage, but he could made it.

Reasons? None. But the Cassie inclusion makes me feel neither of them needs to be in this game. Or, maybe, they could make it it the story mode and die.

But, if no one of the dead heroes made the cut, as Kung Lao or Liu Kang, don't see their inclusion so lame.

I still don't see the hate as to why these two are in when it totally makes sense for them to be in this game. The whole issue "you got Cassie, there's no need for either of these two," no offense, has to be the dumbest reason. Everyone needs to understand that Cassie DOES NOT have any of their moves except for one, and she has her own version of it!!! Other than that, Cassie is her own character. There is no reason to keep Johnny and Sonya out because of her.

If I were to guess it is because it is because of annoyance of their own favourite character being omitted. Roster spots are limited because so many new characters will be introduced and that post Trilogy characters are also vieing for places. If Johnny Cage and Sonya are introduced that only diminshes the chances of other characters appearing. The Cassie reference is probably just a convenient alibi in that three character who are related are to appear. I presume it also further exasperates people's annoyance.

I think people already realize Cassie has a unique moveset. I think it's more to that Cassie and Sonya fill the same archetype and people would rather have a varied roster.....(unless it's ninjas lol)

If this were like Tekken with a bloated roster and all characters constantly returning, I don't think people would mind that the whole family is in there.

Anyways, I love Sonya and I'm curious to see how they'll handle an aged verison of her!

But no one complained about having 3 masked, black haired, female Shao Kahn assassins in several games, wearing literally the same outfit but in different colors, so that's still a lame excuse. Sonya will likely be old, so that'll make her look different from Cassie, they don't share moves, they wear different colors, and Cassie acts more like Cage than Sonya.

I did say, unless it's ninjas, you know people love those no matter what lol...

There's also the point that this game with have more new characters than the previous titles thus less returning ones...I can somewhat understand the resentment people are having...

Thank you.

Basically this. It would be like having all the Alexandra family together in a SC game. Their gameplay isn't identical, but people would rather have roster spots filled by a variety of characters with different storylines. Personally I'd rather just have Cassie in MKX since she is confirmed to be in SF/PD like her mom, she does look similar to her mom (if she didn't dress like a slut), and she will probably have a similar feud with Kano. I mean there is no way those 2, both being in the game, won't interact. So I see no point in including 2 characters that are so similar to each other in so many ways. I'd rather have that spot filled by a 3D era character that hasn't been given the chance to be fleshed out.
It's getting a bit old seeing people blaming those who don't want them in the game by saying they don't play similar. It's not just that. It's obvious that Cassie plays a lot differently than her parents. However Sonya's story had become stale lately and I found no reason including her in the games if her story wasn't gonna progress. And I found a perfect replacement for her in Cassie. She doesn't share identical special moves with her parents and they can take her story in many directions. So when I hear that even after all this trouble to make a brand new character that looks amazing, and that isn't Kira 2.0, it sounds just unnecessary to include both Sonya and Johnny. Especially with Cassie having 2 different variations dedicated to those 2.
Am I gonna rage if both Sonya and Johnny are confirmed to be in the game? Absolutely not. Bit if they are gonna keep dragging their stories to nowhere, it's gonna be disappointing. They were certainly on to something good with Cage's ending in MK9, but if they are gonna leave that un-canon and go back to good ol' Johnny cracking jokes and having no clue about what's happening, then no. And I'm seriously not looking forward to Sonya and Kano's never ending vendetta. My body is ready for something new!

Got a feeling they will be killed by Kano in the opening and Cassie will go on a "quest for revenge". It's cliche and I hope it doesn't happen but that's the feeling I am getting from these different Ed quotes.

It's MK we talking about, not SC. Though, I never had any problems with having Sophitia and Cassandra in the same game. And this is the first I've heard that somebody disliked it.

Back to MK: I don't see a problem. People OK with three female ninjas, but not OK with two millitary blondes? What the Fuck? Given, they play diffrently from each other what is the problem? Some people want to see all 9 ninjas return in the game and look the same, but a throw a childish hissy fit, when there could be more than 1 blonde female? Seems another case of stupidity.

I am all for diverce roster and the like, but I don't see a problem if Cassy and Sonya will have different gameplay. It's not like we'll end up with the whole Blade family playable, including 2 cousins, 5 aunts, 3 uncles and their dog. It's just two fucking characters from roster of 25+ characters.

If you can stomach multiple rangers-ninjas and female-ninjas, then you certainly shouldn't have problems with only 2 millitary women.

Oh, I forgot, some MK fans are wired in that stupid way that they can accept different characters only if they have masks and colourful garbs. For those people I can suggest to either seek medical help or imagine, that Sonya and Cassy have masks, when you play as them.

Yeah I see what you mean about Sindel, but she doesn't have a single wrinkle on her! Wasn't aware of the other two though.

Lol at people already assuming Cassie and Kano have a feud when we don't know shit about their storylines in this game.

When saying "all the Alexandra family" I meant Sophitia, Cassandra, Patroklos and Pyrrha. I didn't mind the sisters being in one game together. I would hate it if all 4 of them were tho. That's how I feel about MK too.




Well personally I am one of those people who isn't a fan of all 9 ninjas in a game either. I am all for diversity and it would be hypocritic of me to be like "Yeah bring back Scorp, Subz, Ermac, Noob, Rain, Reptile, Smoke, Chameleon!", when I don't wanna see Sonya back. Then again I really dislike Sonya as a character and as I said her story is extremely boring to me now. So Cassie is more than enough imo. It's just a matter of taste.

Well, now it's justified. Especially if count alternate versions of both Patroklos (Setsu-clone) and Evul Pyrrha. BTW, you can throw in Elysium while we at it.
However, I don't see problem with just two characters. Especially if they have different gameplay.


That's where you should've started.
You don't like Sonya? OK. Everyone have their opinion of the characters.
But, please, don't try to justify you disliking of the character by rather odd reasons.

I hope that Cassie doesn't go up against Kano. I'd rather have her own problems with other characters and not fret over her parents' enemy.

I don't think I did. I mentioned in my first post that I think her story has become stale lately and I think that Cassie would be a perfect replacement for a character that the writers seem to not know what to do with anymore.
If they can come up with a new and interesting storyline, I am all for that. I just think that if they had plans to take Sonya to new directions, they would have done that by now. Honestly as much as I loved her during the MK3 days, at this point I'd much rather see a 3D era character instead of her.

You do understand, that MK9 resets everything that had happened in MK1-MKA? So, everything that had happened with Sonya in those games doesn't count?
Just checking...

Her story is still stale

Clearly he was referring to what can possibly happen in future games, obviously if you found her story boring in the old timeline you would find it boring still in MK9 since it was a retelling, and everybody had the same story as they did in MK1-3 with the exception of very few characters (such as Mileena, who was ruined)

Yes and thanks for the lesson but I do remember what MK9 was about. That doesn't really change anything. In my opinion neither in the original timeline, nor in the alternate one did Sonya do anything remarkable. In the old one she was trying to locate her partner while pursuing Kano, then got captured, then joined forces with Raiden, then was pursuing Kano a little bit more. In the new one she did the exact same thing. Nothing important changed in her storyline. At least nothing to catch my attention.
Johnny was a similar character to me in a sense, because his story also didn't really progress much since his debut and the writers seemed not to know what to do with him. However his MK9 ending showed that they had some interesting plans for him and I do think that if he comes back, he has potential with that story. Sonya to me doesn't.
With all due respect, I don't really get what you're trying to do here. It's all a matter of preference. You can't really pinpoint someone for disliking a character or thinking they're boring. I still think Sonya's inclusion is unnecessary and would rather have someone else return. And it has nothing to do with Cassie since their gameplay clearly isn't identical.

Gee...Hating the story of character in the remake for being the same as in original...wut?
Whatever.

I think it is because cassie, johnny, and sonya are all physical character's they have no special abilities. Now a case can be made for johnny becoming a seido and I think that is why Johnny is more universally accepted for being in MKX rather than sonya.

Technically and logically speaking cassie could adopt all of sonya's moveset's the only thing stopping that from happening is NRS.

Could you give Ermac ice abilities? NO

Could you give Noob Telekinesis? NO

Could you give Reptile the power over Lightning? NO

Can you give Cassie a phase gun and tailor her attacks to use her legs? YES