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04/06/2015 04:53 AM (UTC)
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sharefrock Wrote:
Viser Wrote:

Thanks man means a lot coming from you.

Ugh i just really think NRS could have done so much more, i don't want to sound self-entitled. I love the game, but this is my favorite series, and i just want the very best. I wish Tobias was still with the team, i think with the freedom Wb gives them John could have written a superior story.


Agreed. John Tobias's stories were just amazing. MK:SZM is one of my best MK stories, it introduced me to my favorite female character, Sareena. And my 2nd favorite male character, Quan Chi.

It was a great story, I still play it from time to time.

But hopefully the future of the story and story telling in MK will be/get better.

And no need to thank me for speaking the truth, those were really some good ideas that I doubt anybody could argue with, especially when you have the alt of what we saw in the story. Good job :).


I still got my MK:SZM for N64 man i was so jealous i didn't have a playstation to see the video cutscenes. I love Sareena! hoping so much we get a kombat pack 2, and Sareena, and Frost are included in it.

Still feels so weird not having a cyborg in the game, i would love one.
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04/06/2015 04:54 AM (UTC)
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Tobias isn't needed to write a great story. The comic is amazing and guess what? Tobias has nothing to do with it. The main issue with the story stems from people not getting what they want pertaining to their favorite character. And the fact it's only 12 chapters. The story isn't even that bad. Too many overly dramatic people in this thread.
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04/06/2015 04:57 AM (UTC)
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Windice Wrote:
futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
EcstasyTuesday Wrote:
I mean.. I know the next mk game is going to be pretty much all new characters with Sub and Scorp, i'm just really blah about that. It's hard letting go of your childhood.


Look at the bright side, noob will probably be playable, and we'll definitely have lots of classic returnees, just not more than half of the roster like this game.

doubt it. especially when they'll start exploiting DLC. I wouldn't be surprised if KP2 has the more obvious returnees coming back(Fujin,Cyrax,Noob,heck,maybe Rain if Boon was lying, Li Mei or Frost,although they certainly aren't as popular as some MK1-3 characters,Shang Tsung,etc.)


I want more characters but omg that would be so much money.


If there's a second kombat pack I wouldn't have too much hope for any characters whose model wasn't featured in the game (Reiko and Havik are out of the window) so:
Baraka, Rain, Fujin, Sindel, Li Mei, Frost, Bo Rai Cho.

Smoke, Noob and Jade are highly popular because ninjas, but the first one had his MK9 model and the rest didn't even appear in the game
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04/06/2015 04:59 AM (UTC)
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Viser Wrote:
Gillbob316 Wrote:
daryui Wrote:
Yeah, lol.

Forgot endings at the end of the sentence.

...

Where the hell is Kai?


Drowning in the sea of obscurity, off the coast of the continent of limbo.

I daresay he's reached a point of relevance lower than even Jarek these days. There's a time in the past I'd have put him above Jarek... but even Jarek has the Black Dragon connection to keep him slightly afloat. Kai, thus far, has absolutely no relevance or presence in the new timeline whatsoever thus far.


Which is a shame, i enjoyed Kai very much, he has potential... Hell every character has it! well maybe not Meat and Mokap tongue
I actually feel like even Meat and Mokap have potential with the proper spin and proper attention. Though I don't necessarily think they're deserving of said attention.

I still think Mokap would have been a better choice than Stuntman for an MK9 challenge tower cameo.

Mokap has a solid tie to one of the main characters that could work if treated seriously. I mean he's supposed to be a stuntman who's worked with Johnny, and has a vast martial arts knowledge. He's kind of in the same territory as Stryker, he could prove an experienced and useful warrior when Earthrealm is low on experienced and useful warriors. And unlike Stryker, he actually has a damn tie to one of the classic characters. ... Oh but lose the balls, obviously.

Meat could be a downright badass character if shown the right love. I mean he's a skinless flesh pit mutant gone rogue. There's loads of potential there.

But no one is exactly clamoring for these guys to be re-invented so I'm fully aware it will likely never happen. Outside maybe a third Trilogy/Armageddon complete game someday.

There's a few dozen guys I'd chose before them, but I don't think any character in this franchise is completely devoid of merit.

I'd love to see Chameleon and Khameleon get fleshed out too for that matter. We need more damn Zaterrans. (I know Chameleon was never confirmed to be one, but Khameleon was, and in MKA Chameleon obviously has loads of visual similarities to Khameleon... so he could easily be revealed to be one. I always thought it would be cool if Reptile became the "good" Zaterran, that fans back, and Chameleon the blatantly evil one, who you just want to hate, and want Reptile to win out over for Khameleon's companionship. Kinda like the Iago to his Othello.)
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04/06/2015 05:03 AM (UTC)
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I can't help but be reminded of that interview where Ed said it would be hard to continue the story when I think of what's happened.

I really hope for an Onaga return someday, and it would be nice to see the Seido characters.

It's a shame the Red Dragon will never live up to their potential.

Lastly, from what few endings we know, it's clear they are bullshitting. They sound worse than MK9.

I still need more time to process this ...
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Viser
04/06/2015 05:03 AM (UTC)
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NostalgiaGod Wrote:
Tobias isn't needed to write a great story. The comic is amazing and guess what? Tobias has nothing to do with it. The main issue with the story stems from people not getting what they want pertaining to their favorite character. And the fact it's only 12 chapters. The story isn't even that bad. Too many overly dramatic people in this thread.



Like i said earlier i do not want to sound self entitled, but this game means more to me then a casual fan obviously. I just want more, more, more. I love MK, and yes the comic is amazing. I just wantto explore every nook and cranny of the MK universe.
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futuretime23
04/06/2015 05:08 AM (UTC)
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Denizen Wrote:
Windice Wrote:
futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
EcstasyTuesday Wrote:
I mean.. I know the next mk game is going to be pretty much all new characters with Sub and Scorp, i'm just really blah about that. It's hard letting go of your childhood.


Look at the bright side, noob will probably be playable, and we'll definitely have lots of classic returnees, just not more than half of the roster like this game.

doubt it. especially when they'll start exploiting DLC. I wouldn't be surprised if KP2 has the more obvious returnees coming back(Fujin,Cyrax,Noob,heck,maybe Rain if Boon was lying, Li Mei or Frost,although they certainly aren't as popular as some MK1-3 characters,Shang Tsung,etc.)


I want more characters but omg that would be so much money.


If there's a second kombat pack I wouldn't have too much hope for any characters whose model wasn't featured in the game (Reiko and Havik are out of the window) so:
Baraka, Rain, Fujin, Sindel, Li Mei, Frost, Bo Rai Cho.

Smoke, Noob and Jade are highly popular because ninjas, but the first one had his MK9 model and the rest didn't even appear in the game

still,it all comes down to what NRS wants. they could have models,but it might not mean anything.
look at Motaro(yes,I know he's different because he's a Centaur,but still) or Shinnok being one of the DLC candidates(along with Tanya and Fujin)
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Gillbob316
04/06/2015 05:26 AM (UTC)
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Here's a completely valid question no one seems to have asked yet...

Why is Kotal Kahn blue in the present day story, But flesh colored in the flashback to the beginning of the war, but still earlier blue in his early family life shown in the comic book (not to mention the rest of his race is blue)

I assume the comic books just didn't have sufficient knowledge and reference when those issues were being made, and just incorrectly assumed he and his race were always blue... But whatever the reason, as context currently stands, his fleshy past look makes no damn sense.
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04/06/2015 05:26 AM (UTC)
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futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
Windice Wrote:
futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
EcstasyTuesday Wrote:
I mean.. I know the next mk game is going to be pretty much all new characters with Sub and Scorp, i'm just really blah about that. It's hard letting go of your childhood.


Look at the bright side, noob will probably be playable, and we'll definitely have lots of classic returnees, just not more than half of the roster like this game.

doubt it. especially when they'll start exploiting DLC. I wouldn't be surprised if KP2 has the more obvious returnees coming back(Fujin,Cyrax,Noob,heck,maybe Rain if Boon was lying, Li Mei or Frost,although they certainly aren't as popular as some MK1-3 characters,Shang Tsung,etc.)


I want more characters but omg that would be so much money.


If there's a second kombat pack I wouldn't have too much hope for any characters whose model wasn't featured in the game (Reiko and Havik are out of the window) so:
Baraka, Rain, Fujin, Sindel, Li Mei, Frost, Bo Rai Cho.

Smoke, Noob and Jade are highly popular because ninjas, but the first one had his MK9 model and the rest didn't even appear in the game

still,it all comes down to what NRS wants. they could have models,but it might not mean anything.
look at Motaro(yes,I know he's different because he's a Centaur,but still) or Shinnok being one of the DLC candidates(along with Tanya and Fujin)


You're right, what I'm trying to say is that they don't have the time to build a model from scratch, if they had Jade, Noob, Reiko or Havik models ready they would have integrated them into the story. Not necessarily, obviously, but that's what I'd have done during the development of the storymode.
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04/06/2015 05:31 AM (UTC)
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Gillbob316 Wrote:
Here's a completely valid question no one seems to have asked yet...

Why is Kotal Kahn blue in the present day story, But flesh colored in the flashback to the beginning of the war, but still earlier blue in his early family life shown in the comic book (not to mention the rest of his race is blue)

I assume the comic books just didn't have sufficient knowledge and reference when those issues were being made, and just incorrectly assumed he and his race were always blue... But whatever the reason, as context currently stands, his fleshy past look makes no damn sense.


Paint maybe. Idk.
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futuretime23
04/06/2015 05:46 AM (UTC)
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Denizen Wrote:
futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
Windice Wrote:
futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
EcstasyTuesday Wrote:
I mean.. I know the next mk game is going to be pretty much all new characters with Sub and Scorp, i'm just really blah about that. It's hard letting go of your childhood.


Look at the bright side, noob will probably be playable, and we'll definitely have lots of classic returnees, just not more than half of the roster like this game.

doubt it. especially when they'll start exploiting DLC. I wouldn't be surprised if KP2 has the more obvious returnees coming back(Fujin,Cyrax,Noob,heck,maybe Rain if Boon was lying, Li Mei or Frost,although they certainly aren't as popular as some MK1-3 characters,Shang Tsung,etc.)


I want more characters but omg that would be so much money.


If there's a second kombat pack I wouldn't have too much hope for any characters whose model wasn't featured in the game (Reiko and Havik are out of the window) so:
Baraka, Rain, Fujin, Sindel, Li Mei, Frost, Bo Rai Cho.

Smoke, Noob and Jade are highly popular because ninjas, but the first one had his MK9 model and the rest didn't even appear in the game

still,it all comes down to what NRS wants. they could have models,but it might not mean anything.
look at Motaro(yes,I know he's different because he's a Centaur,but still) or Shinnok being one of the DLC candidates(along with Tanya and Fujin)


You're right, what I'm trying to say is that they don't have the time to build a model from scratch, if they had Jade, Noob, Reiko or Havik models ready they would have integrated them into the story. Not necessarily, obviously, but that's what I'd have done during the development of the storymode.

still,they could create new models,if they wanted to. Tremor seems to be a good example of this.
well,in any case,we just gotta play the waiting game now.
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04/06/2015 05:57 AM (UTC)
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futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
Windice Wrote:
futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
EcstasyTuesday Wrote:
I mean.. I know the next mk game is going to be pretty much all new characters with Sub and Scorp, i'm just really blah about that. It's hard letting go of your childhood.


Look at the bright side, noob will probably be playable, and we'll definitely have lots of classic returnees, just not more than half of the roster like this game.

doubt it. especially when they'll start exploiting DLC. I wouldn't be surprised if KP2 has the more obvious returnees coming back(Fujin,Cyrax,Noob,heck,maybe Rain if Boon was lying, Li Mei or Frost,although they certainly aren't as popular as some MK1-3 characters,Shang Tsung,etc.)


I want more characters but omg that would be so much money.


If there's a second kombat pack I wouldn't have too much hope for any characters whose model wasn't featured in the game (Reiko and Havik are out of the window) so:
Baraka, Rain, Fujin, Sindel, Li Mei, Frost, Bo Rai Cho.

Smoke, Noob and Jade are highly popular because ninjas, but the first one had his MK9 model and the rest didn't even appear in the game

still,it all comes down to what NRS wants. they could have models,but it might not mean anything.
look at Motaro(yes,I know he's different because he's a Centaur,but still) or Shinnok being one of the DLC candidates(along with Tanya and Fujin)


You're right, what I'm trying to say is that they don't have the time to build a model from scratch, if they had Jade, Noob, Reiko or Havik models ready they would have integrated them into the story. Not necessarily, obviously, but that's what I'd have done during the development of the storymode.

still,they could create new models,if they wanted to. Tremor seems to be a good example of this.
well,in any case,we just gotta play the waiting game now.


I thought NRS said it took approximately 9 months to create a full character. That means that at least the models to the DLC were finished months ago.

We will know once the data-mining begins.
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04/06/2015 06:03 AM (UTC)
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Just got home. Any streams going on right now? Can you pm me?
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04/06/2015 06:04 AM (UTC)
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Denizen Wrote:
futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
Windice Wrote:
futuretime23 Wrote:
Denizen Wrote:
EcstasyTuesday Wrote:
I mean.. I know the next mk game is going to be pretty much all new characters with Sub and Scorp, i'm just really blah about that. It's hard letting go of your childhood.


Look at the bright side, noob will probably be playable, and we'll definitely have lots of classic returnees, just not more than half of the roster like this game.

doubt it. especially when they'll start exploiting DLC. I wouldn't be surprised if KP2 has the more obvious returnees coming back(Fujin,Cyrax,Noob,heck,maybe Rain if Boon was lying, Li Mei or Frost,although they certainly aren't as popular as some MK1-3 characters,Shang Tsung,etc.)


I want more characters but omg that would be so much money.


If there's a second kombat pack I wouldn't have too much hope for any characters whose model wasn't featured in the game (Reiko and Havik are out of the window) so:
Baraka, Rain, Fujin, Sindel, Li Mei, Frost, Bo Rai Cho.

Smoke, Noob and Jade are highly popular because ninjas, but the first one had his MK9 model and the rest didn't even appear in the game

still,it all comes down to what NRS wants. they could have models,but it might not mean anything.
look at Motaro(yes,I know he's different because he's a Centaur,but still) or Shinnok being one of the DLC candidates(along with Tanya and Fujin)


You're right, what I'm trying to say is that they don't have the time to build a model from scratch, if they had Jade, Noob, Reiko or Havik models ready they would have integrated them into the story. Not necessarily, obviously, but that's what I'd have done during the development of the storymode.

still,they could create new models,if they wanted to. Tremor seems to be a good example of this.
well,in any case,we just gotta play the waiting game now.


I thought NRS said it took approximately 9 months to create a full character. That means that at least the models to the DLC were finished months ago.

We will know once the data-mining begins.


Where did you read that it takes 9 months? It only takes Iron Galaxy 4 months to create a Character, Stage, 16 Accessories and more. They have 26 people working on the game NRS has over 200
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04/06/2015 06:09 AM (UTC)
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I thought they said it takes about a month to create a character.
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04/06/2015 06:10 AM (UTC)
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Someone, please upload or PM me Reptile standing up to Mileena.
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04/06/2015 06:20 AM (UTC)
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Snowcat Wrote:
Even Meat and Mokap have potential, the problem is that they won't put the effort in to make them worth it. If even their creators can't be bothered, then It's likely we'll never see them again. Which is a shame, because yes, all characters have the potential to be great with some effort put into them.

Can you blame them though? We all have done, created, or said things in the past that no longer resonate with us today. Maybe that's what we are seeing with some of those 3D era guys. Why waste energy on something that you kinda regret ever doing in the first place? I think the the silver lining here is that NRS appears to be far more invested in their new characters this time around. That can only mean good things for them moving forward.
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04/06/2015 06:22 AM (UTC)
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it only takes them 6 weeks IIRC
back in december,Himmerick said something like that.
for the record,given that the base game is done,it would take even less,given that they got more time and resources to spend on dlc.
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04/06/2015 06:25 AM (UTC)
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Kotal's alternate costume fucking sucks
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04/06/2015 06:29 AM (UTC)
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EdisonCaine Wrote:
Snowcat Wrote:
Even Meat and Mokap have potential, the problem is that they won't put the effort in to make them worth it. If even their creators can't be bothered, then It's likely we'll never see them again. Which is a shame, because yes, all characters have the potential to be great with some effort put into them.

Can you blame them though? We all have done, created, or said things in the past that no longer resonate with us today. Maybe that's what we are seeing with some of those 3D era guys. Why waste energy on something that you kinda regret ever doing in the first place? I think the the silver lining here is that NRS appears to be far more invested in their new characters this time around. That can only mean good things for them moving forward.


Nah I can't really blame them, I guess my overall point was that they could become good characters if they tried. Yes, when even they aren't invested in such suckage characters, there probably isn't any incentive for them to try, which is understandable also. Sure would be interesting to see though.
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04/06/2015 06:31 AM (UTC)
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I'm not a fan of any of the Alternate Costumes shown so far in game. Unless we count the Evil versions of Sub Zero, Kitana and Jax
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04/06/2015 06:46 AM (UTC)
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From Sub-Zero's ending, it's official...he's the Cat in the Hat in disguise in search of one thing

Eggs



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Thatoneguy
04/06/2015 06:52 AM (UTC)
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I gotta know what Reptile says to Mileena. Not as a knock to Mileena, I'm just so happy he's more developed now.
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04/06/2015 06:54 AM (UTC)
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Viser Wrote:
chameleon84 Wrote:
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Link me please!

me too please, I need to watch this esspecially the kuai/hanzo/frost scene


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4nk372cepM

Your wish is my command


Thanks a lot smile
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04/06/2015 07:07 AM (UTC)
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I tried to open, but it says it's private confused
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