It's different because Johnny has always been that way. These new characters personalities feel so forced because of it, like they're trying to stay relevant by introducing younger characters that are supposed to be more modern. I don't like this type of humor because it doesn't fit MK. Too much of the story revolves around these 4 and I hate it. It's like they give us these 4 and we're supposed to like them just because they're offspring's of MK characters.

Yeah, they've got a good rep so far and that's good for whoever likes them, but I seriously hope that they don't return. Obviously I won't get my wish, but it's how I feel, I wish they were never introduced in the first place. I feel like we would have a much better story that actually revolves around the MK universe that we know and love. Now that they do exist, they have fans, and there's no denying that they will return in the future. Which fucking blows imo

Well true, I mean I didn't mind seeing the new generation of fighters at all, I think they were good imo. And it is going to be hard seeing them for now on instead of the classic parents lol I guess cause the classics grew on us as we fans were growing up. But since Ed Boon claim the kids won't replace their parents than we still have hope. But I wouldn't mind seeing Cassie return she was my only fav out of the four lol

EDIT: idk why this posted twice, shitty internet

They just seem fan-fic material, especially since there's been lots of Cassie Cages in fanon. Team Kotal is welcome but they just seem random like they don't belong in MK.

So Johnny gets a pass because he has always been like that? That means in 20 years you will be ok with it? It wasn't just Johnny either. Lui has always been cocky, but honorable. Kung Lao was also a bit immature, but good hearted. The personalities of the new heroes are almost to similar too the old ones in my opinion.

You don't like sarcastic dialogue, but Friendships, Babalities, actors fighting four armed monster with sunglasses on, people exploding after being hit a bunch, and the game developers popping their heads into frame are humor that fit MK?

The new heroes are a compromise between the people who want MK to be how it has always been and the people who want it to go forward. Seriously, this MK is not a huge leap from the old ones. I don't see how Cassie or Takeda are unfit to be in a world with Kano and Kung Lao.

Watch the first MK movie and see how many of the characters are a sassy. I can list all the ones who aren't: Sub-Zero, Kitana. Even the old Shaolin monk says that America has ruined Lui's mind; too much television.

I never said that. I don't think it fits MK because there's too fucking much of it. I'm okay with it here and there, but they just shove it in our faces. I didn't mind it before because it was just Johnny, but now every offspring has these sarcastic lines. It gets very old very quickly. Do you expect me to believe that before Cassie fights one of the most powerful beings in the universe her first thought is "Holy shit, it does run in the family"? She goes about it like it's just another day in the office. I guess the newer personalities being too similar to the old is the actual problem for me. Too much of the same.

Also I like babalities, friendships, and other stuff because it's fun. Sarcastic dialogue is okay here and there, but it's annoying when the entire story mode is littered with it.

I really like Cassie and Takeda. Bring them back, please.

Jacqui...I really like her when I play her. She's a fun, fast character, and I love it when she says, "Say my name, bitch!" during the round. She just needs a more appealing design and purposeful role in the story.

Kung Jin...I'm neutral on the guy. Fun to play but really boring, both design and story wise.

Could not agree more. Almost half the fuckin cast is the sarcastic, modern, "edgy", Xtreme, 90's gogurt commercial archetype. Its corny as fuck when there is so much of it. I get a headache from all the eye rolling I do. Play Reptile and fight against Cassie, jaquie, Kung Jin, Takeda and they all say the same type of shit. Then ad JC, Lui, Lao and more to the mix and it gets so fuckin old. Its so painfully obvious that characters like Reptile, Goro, Ermac, Mileena, Sub Zero, etc are made to be the heel so NRS can show everybody how zainy and "cool" the new teen titans are. Like Redman said above, it feels so forced and is incredibly obvious. I don't see why Kung Jin couldn't have been all about honor/peace or have Takeda be a super serious, cold blooded but good hearted assassin. But no, we get 4 rebellious, sarcastic teenagers with "edgy" modern quips and I feel like I'm watching the fucking Disney channel every time they're on screen.

And to Killamore, absolutely nobody is saying comic relief is new to MK or doesn't belong in it. Its that MKX is over saturated with it.

My point is that if MKII was as advanced as a modern game with the pre-fight dialogues and chapter story mode it would have the same amount of humor and the characters would be just as corny and awesome as they are now. The only difference would be that instead of millennials it would be 80s troupes.

If Takeda is forced, then what do you call Kitana? I don't remember anyone ever saying that they only made her a female ninja to force people to like her or that her being a princess was like a bad fan fiction.

Even the 3D era was full of 90's and early 00's troupes. The brooding scarred hero out to get revenge, the black leather sexy bad guy who is apart of an underground organization, the badass black guy wearing sunglasses hiding from society while on a righteous mission, and the crazy guy who doesn't follow any rules so is impossible to predict all say hello.

The new heroes are following the same patterns set by the originals. They are just this generation's version of MK. If you don't like this era, then fine. That's your opinion. Just know that it's doing exactly what the others did.

I personally enjoyed the kids, and I didn't find their personalities to be too much. They all act perfectly fine in story mode, you have tons more serious characters to balance them out.

But then, I always liked MK's corniness, it's all good fun.

Should they return? I think so. Have them act out more as individuals and less as a team. I'd like that.

I don't even understand your comparison. Kitana is an Edenian Princess, convinced that Shao Kahn was her father, who utilized her as an assassin. There is a whole 'unique' story there and that isn't even the half of it. She isn't just some Princess or ninja for the sake of it.

What is bad is when you mash together a bunch of characters stories and produce some strange ass mixed up bag of sassy teens who come in to "save" the day. I for the life of me still can't get a grip on Kenshi and Scorpion's whole deal. It's like NRS felt absolutely compelled to produce some sort of offspring/relation of the MK Breadwinner (Scorpion) even if it makes no sense.

Seriously can't figure out where you are going in your description of the "originals" as you labeled them. All I got from it was you describing unique characters.

Kenshi helped Scorpion control the Hellfire after he was brought back to life and he hid Takeda with him to protect him after the Red Dragon killed his mother while he continued his travels and Special Forces missions. When Takeda was old enough to fight for himself and wouldn't put himself in harm's way, Kenshi came back and recruited him in a special team.

The story between Kenshi and Scorpion is a little blurry? Perhaps, but there's not much details about how Shao Kahn killed Jerrod and Sindel and how old Kitana was to remember Sindel but not remember that Kahn is not her father.

And Takeda is a student of the revived Shirai Ryu after his father abandoned him to get revenge on his mother's killers. And that's just the first chapter of the comics.

You say Kitana isn't Shao Kahn's adopted daughter or a ninja for the sake of it, and I say Takeda isn't Kenshi's son or a ninja for the sake of it either.

No, I get the story. What I said was that it makes no sense. I understand fleshing Scorpion out, but it seems extremely 'out of character'. Scorpion 'raising' Kenshi's kid. Okay. *eyeroll*

I don't think we need to know how old Kitana was or how Shao Kahn killed Jerrod. He did so after his invasion of Edenian, what else happens when an emperor conquers the land. It was plausible that Kitana would someday not recognize Shao Kahn as her father, thus in the original timeline he created Mileena.

The point was that the Scorpion/Kenshi/Takeda two dads story seemed forced. One so Scorpion would have some sort of stake in this offspring terror, and two so Takeda would have a story at all.

It's not forced. They're just trying to creates links with the characters and make Scorpion be more than an angry revenant. Kenshi helped Ermac in the first timeline and Scorpion in the new one. Kenshi and Hanzo are now friends so they help each other. Scorpion didn't raise Takeda as a son. Scorpion trained Takeda as a warrior. Revenant Scorpion might not seem like much of a father but It's not out of character for Hanzo Hashashi to raise a kid. Hell, his whole story used to hang on the Lin Kuei killing his clan and family.

Call it forced if you want, but that's called writing a story. You would have prefered Takeda to be Kenshi's son and drop all the subplot? The 4 new generation warriors all get a different background. Takeda's includes Scorpion.

Or, maybe you're just tired of seeing Scorpion?

You're point was that the teen titans are following the same pattern that the original characters did. You claimed that if MKX was a modern game as now, it was be full of the same trite aspects that the new generation provides.

Kitana did not become princess nor did she become "daughter" of Shao Kahn out of thin air.

Your 'Kitana' example, is not giving me anything remotely close to what the newcomers are, in personality or story. Who else are the newcomers linked to besides one another and the people they are related to. The only one that makes true sense is Cassie. Even her annoying personality fits.

It may not be forced to you. When I see the new gang, I see, NRS developing the idea that they want to have these witty new kids come in. Two boys, two girls. Lets pick 6 characters to relate them to (one of them obviously has to be Scorpion - even if we have to change his whole attitude) and voila!

Their personalities are the same. Their looks are what is to be expected. Their move sets are adapted. Sold.

Cassie is the only one really offering anything 'story wise' (again expected) and likewise IMO the only one who makes sense.

So no, I don't agree.

I'm also not for NRS playing off the comic when they want to, so much of this does seem 'out of thin air'.

Well, they obviously expected the comics to flesh out the story, seeing the number of stuff that is barely referred to but expanded in the comics.

Did you expect Hanzo to be bitter and angry? Scorpion acted that way because he was a revenant.

I disagree with the same personality thing, as I said before. There's an overall them of making parents/guardians proud that you can find in each character but it's all presented differently.

Takeda is a bit naive(that intro with Jax lol). He had the hardest life losing his mother, being found and then abandonned by his dad and being trained under Scorpion. He seemed the most let down by the bad training with the Lin Kue(not saying anything while everyone else insulted each others). Obviously he feels like he needs to prove himself more than ther others.

Kung Jin is angry because he was never respected in his family for not being like the Kung Laos and spent most of his time in exile feeling sorry for himself and thinking nobody loved him. Only Raiden could get trought his head, and even he said Kung Jin would have to get over his self pity. That life turned him into a rude person that is better at fending off for himself and hates working in group.

Cassie is witty like her dad but that's about it. Johnny Cage doesn't care much for Sonya's bickering but it hurts her a lot. She tries her best to make her mom proud but it just won't work.

Jacqui is the least developped character, but she is headstrong and ready to fight. Jax is scared for her baby daughter but she wants to protect the world just like he did.

But hey, let's agree to disagree.

I don't see how Takeda's backstory comes out of thin air, but Kitana's "ninja twins: one's actually the true princess of Outwolrd (her parents where the rulers of Outworld before Shao Kahn in MKII) and the other is an evil clone" doesn't.

I love Kitana and al the other original heroes, but go back and read their debuting bios/endings and tell me they aren't 80's cliches as much as the new heroes are modern cliches.

The merging of the realms is a major foundation of MK. So no Shao Kahn invading Edenia, merging it with Outworld, and claiming Sindel and Kitana as his own is not out of thin air.

Forever vengeful Scorpion is all zen after hanging with Kenshi; he "teaches" (/raises whatever you want to call it) Takeda, for him to then go on and join the special forces. mhm.

No. None of the bios/endings are comparable to this new set of teen titans/power rangers/fantastic four.

I can not agree more. (Except the part where MKX is over saturated with humor, if anything, MK9 was oversaturated with humor)

The kombat kids suck ass in my opinion and I hate the whole deal whats going on with them. They're all so uninteresting and not original. And their personalities are so god awful. Like if they're going to include these characters, then remove their parents so we have more space for interesting original characters. We don't need Cassie AND Sonya, they're practically the same. We also don't need Jacqui AND Jax, since they're also the same. Next installment they should keep one or the other.

Ok that may have been exaggerating a bit, but I think NRS could do better. But yet i'd take the kombat kids sassy humor over something like Bo' Rai Cho's toilet humor ANY DAY. That was so awful.

All the Kitana stuff was out of thin air when it happened though. I don't really like the kids that much but you are clearly biased.

"His real name is Maj. Jackson Briggs, leader of a top U.S. Special Forces unit. After receiving a distress signal from LT. Sonya Blade, Jax embarks on a rescue mission. One that leads him into a ghastly world where he believes that Sonya is still alive."

"Kung Jin is the younger cousin of Earthrealm hero Kung Lao. When Kung Lao was killed in the war against Outworld, Kung's family's fortunes took a turn for the worse. He journeyed to the U.S. and became a thief. An encounter with Raiden changed Jin's outlook, and he joined the Shaolin Monks. Now a member of Johnny Cage's secret Special Forces offshoot, Jin's streetwise past gives him extra insight into the minds and motivations of those who would harm Earthrealm."

Can you spot the one that's more cliched? Seriously, Jax's MKII bio sounds like the dialogue a voice over would say in an 80's action trailer. And Jin's is just as cliched except with a more modern character over "buff military man." And both are equally the MK we grew up with.

Really? Obviously when you are creatively writing something it literally comes "out of thin air". The point is that it was well thought out and made a whole lot more sense than what is going on here.

Nobody is biased. D'vorah is an interesting new lackey. I'm not even a Kitana fan, but I can recognize her role in MK. Someone saying that Takeda, Jacqui, Cassie, or Kung Jin is as equally thought out as her doesn't make sense.