And yet, almost all fans of the cyborg characters are insanely fucking excited to be able to play their favourite character in MKX.

I love the liberal use of the word "insulting" around here, as if Ed Boon personally signed a "fuck you" on a picture of him banging your mother. You're getting more playable content for a great game. It's not what you wanted, it doesn't mean it's an insult.

If they had filled up three separate slots with the individual cyborgs people like you would still be bitching, or alternatively, gave all those variations to a single cyborg, you would still be bitching.

I don't see how anybody could complain about Triborg's existence after seeing the gameplay. Each variation looks insanely fucking fun.

Well after watching that trailer again I am a bit hyped for triborg the smoke variation looks awesome! But still I don't understand why they just didn't put human smoke in give him the revenant design and a classic skin like the other ninjas he would've sold like crazy! I would have bought the whole stupid overpriced pack just to show my appreciation but now I will just be buying triborg to get some smoke action until the next game in 3 years time......

I honestly don't know if Smoke would outsell Triborg at this point. Theoretically Triborg appeals to 3x the fanbase.

But I agree, they've made the Smoke variation so sick. My mains in this game are Kano, Tremor and Goro. I usually switch between Cutthroat and Cybernetic for Kano, Aftershock and Metallic for Tremor and Kuatan Warrior and Dragon Fangs for Goro. I genuinely feel I'm going to play all three variations of Triborg equally.

I do really hope Cyrax has his nets though, but it may make him too overpowered with the resets.

The main problem is overhype with this character. You have 3 fanbases to appeal to and because each character is limited to a variation, obviously they won't feel as "complete" as the other characters in the roster. I think a lot of casuals are overlooking this and are just hyped that their favorite cyborg, in theory, made it onto the list. What they're going to think and how they'll react once they see how narrow the movesets are due to this limitation will be another thing completely. There's definitely going to be some disappointment but I honestly hope it works out for the better. We all saw how peeved the Jade and Noob fans were when MKX dropped.

I'm kinda warming up to the Bo, tri borg and Alien gameplay Leather trash not really.. I may just pick up the komplete edition if that happens (Maybe if its cheap)

Overhype? Lol. People are happy about the inclusion of a cool character.

I think you're speaking on your own behalf. You're basically lumping anyone who is happy with Triborg's inclusion as casuals.

And how exactly are their movesets narrow? Did you not see the gameplay? Have you seen their complete gameplay? On what are you basing this? Each variation is a complete variation. Would you rather they went the Reptile route and have all three variations essentially the same?

It's completely different to the Jade/Noob Saibot scenario because each variation is attributed to each character, rather than just being ripped off and tacked on to a different character entirely. You're a Kenshi fan and you don't even like his "Possessed" variation, so would you prefer they put a variation on either one of the cyborgs that "doesn't fit" in your eyes instead?

Okay, first off, if you haven't been able to tell how limited a character is if you only play one variation by now when the game has been out for almost a year then I honestly can't help you.

Secondly, by casuals, I'm referring to mainly the idiots in the comments and on Twitter acting like they're getting everything they got in MK9 just by their inclusion via variation alone so how you got me lumping everybody in who's happy about his inclusion in the game is beyond me, especially when I've stated multiple times that I'll be purchasing him.

Thirdly, I don't have to see their gameplay in full. I've been playing MKX for almost a year and I've already see how they treat their DLC characters thanks to a KP already having been released. Thus, by those facts, I can assume how they'll play;

They'll likely get anywhere from 5 to 6 main special moves (as compared to the 15-20 every character has gotten as a total sum across all 3 variations), along with variations on each depending on whether you use meter or not, use it mid-air, ect. Then there's the different combo variations. But more likely than not, they each won't have their own fatality, they won't have their own X-Ray, they won't have their own dialogue, thus they are "limited" by variation. The only thing present about them is their moveset which is why I gave the comparison to Jade and Noob. The only plus, if you can call it that, is that their "own" unique fatalities will likely just end up being brutalities.

Fourthly, how exactly is it different when they've explicitly stated Triborg is "his own character" outside of the three cyborgs? That's no different than changing Kitana's outfit to green for Mournful and thus acting like Jade's in the game because at the end of the day, if you want to play that "character," you're immediately limited to one solitary variation and eliminating your choice of three possibilities.

I'm not knocking the character in any sense, I'm just speaking realistically.

Holy hell dude you are arrogant. I'm beginning to believe you would still complain even after getting what you wanted.

I completely understand limitations to each variation. Limitations to the variations doesn't make the variations themselves weak or lacklustre, it's how you adapt to those limitations that makes you a good player.

You literally call anybody who doesn't masturbate over the lore a casual. There are thousands of fans who are excited over KP2, but because they're not actively hatefucking Boon's twitter account over "No Fujin", you instantly dismiss them as plebs.

You're arguing that characters get 15-20 special moves, saying that Triborg's moves are being split over three characters, then in the same breath saying Triborg is a new character. Therefore, he will have 15-20 moves split over 3 variations.

And I'll repeat, you haven't even seen full gameplay. You can act like a seer until then, but don't bitch 'cause people are excited for a character you're hating on because you have a rage boner for NRS for no Li Mei.

LOL How is being a realist being arrogant?

Anywho, you're taking what I said and for whatever reason taking offense to it while bringing in things like lore that have absolutely no bearing on this discussion which is slightly confusing me but whatever. I said there are LIKELY to be disappointments because I've seen and read people expecting too much and not considering the fact they're limited due to variations. You've somehow taken that and run with it to make it seem like I'm suddenly bashing the characters existence and NRS for creating it which is simply not the case.

And again, I don't have to see the gameplay, I know exactly what we're getting when it comes to the 3 variations for the most part. Missiles, teleports and flame bursts for Sektor for example with enhanced versions that become homers, telethrows or telepunches and flamethrowers. It's not exactly rocket science. It's all right there in the trailer though if you're expecting more than that, well, I doubt it.

And I love how you keep skipping over the fact being a realist about a characters limitations does not mean I actively dislike the character, especially when I stated even in the last post that I was purchasing him. But we'll just agree to disagree because simply put, you either can't read or you're ignoring my points in which case arguing with you is completely a waste of time.

Can I just point out that it's very possible that each Triborg variation will have a full set of unique kombos and specials? Look at Kenshi for an example of a character with a ton of unique moves between variations.

That's the likely scenario, yes. What I'm hoping for is that if any character is going to be full to the max via moveset in this game, it's gotta be Triborg.

However, personally I remain optimistic I'll still enjoy him. I still feel bad for those going in who solely only like one cyborg and are thus locked to one variation when the rest of us have more options. Part of the fun of getting a new character is tinkering around with all 3 variations to see which fits your play style better. For those who, for example, only like Cyrax, that's gotta be a bitter pill. Still, it's better than nothing I guess.

I'm not offended. You're acting like a typical teenager.

"I'm not being an angsty brat MOM, I'm just being real, GOSH

What are people expecting that is "too much"? I've seen missiles, teleports, bombs, nets and spears. Pretty much all of that has come to fruition. A couple have asked for three fatalities. Asking toooooooo much.

"I don't need to see gameplay"

"I'm not arrogant"

K.


You can guess special moves (like everyone has), but until you can give me a complete moveset you simply cannot adamantly say the variations will be "limited". It's nonsense.

Well... except Leatherface all the other new fighter looks like a lot of fun. I'm sooo happy that Sektor makes the cut and he has his missile move back! I was worried because Jacqui use also rockets... but glad to see he has his unique style back.

Triborg is my favorite from the pack. The intro was pretty cool and the fatality a great idea (does Sektor has Sub Zero's Head ripped off at the end of the fatality?). The gameplay from all three variations looks promising.

Alien and Bo were my big surprises... gameplay wise. Unique fatalities for Alien and a great move palette. Bo seems to be quick and his gameplay is fluid. Can't wait to see more of it.

Hm... Leatherface... I like slow characters like Ferra/Torr.. but what is so unique in Leatherface gameplay? The chainsaw? It looks like nothing special. But at least he looks better than Jason.

Who are expecting too much? Oh let's see, all the people on Twitter I've seen openly expecting each cyborg to have their own fatalties, their own x-rays, their own dialogues, ect. Those are the people, the "casuals" to which I was referring, not what past arguments you dredged up to put your point across.

As for movesets LOL Right, go look at any variation list, see how many specials there are for each one and then get back to me on that. Then compare that to how many specials the cyborgs have gotten in the past. They have one solitary variation they're locked to, they have no room for experimentation like what they did with Liu or Kenshi in this game. It's the Greatest Hits for a lack of a better term. That's it. Feel free to quote me, I really don't need a psychic to see that. They may sneak in maybe one thing that's new per character but I honestly can't see more than that and that's pushing it.

But more to the point, is there anything wrong with that? No, not at all. But accepting that and seeing it for what it is (limited compared to the diversity of the rest of the casts movesets) doesn't equal hatred, for the record, since you seem to get that confused.

I'd be interested to see what Triborg looks and plays like without a variation selected, as I do sometimes like to play training matches between two characters without variations.

People are complaining about Bo's fart moves?... You know what happens if you use a meter? Diarrhea!

I've seen some speculation that the fart thing might potentially be a throw. I'm really wondering if he's going to be passing gas the entire match though. That may be overkill for me despite my love for him.

What if I chose a variationless Triborg?
You know, up, up, triangle/Y?

What a kool x-ray would that be :D

That's the million dollar question, isn't it? Would be interesting and cool if you got a little bit of all 3 at once. Like the net, teleport and missiles.

No variation = Cyber Sub-Zero?

:D

I think the no variation will be the cyborg we saw in the initial KP2 trailer. Smoke's design is different from it.

I wonder why Smoke is sort of black/grey/red now.

I think The Pit criticism is valid.

There are 3 different versions of The Pit, so why are we getting the same fucking one from MK9? It's easier to copy and paste while touching it up rather than making an actual new stage. How cool would it have been to see The Pit 1? Or The Pit 3?

I'm glad MKX got another stage but honestly it doesn't even feel new. We just saw it in the last game.

Okay here are my thoughts on each character.
1.Leatherface - Only thing that I liked so far is his X-ray but the levitating chainsaw is weird but cool.
2.Bo Rai Cho - He is everything I wanted him to be he is one of my all times favorites. I love the gameplay of him so far.
3.Alien - The Alien is looking awesome to me more and more. The fatalities and win pose look amazing for him. At least I assume the ending with Jacqui is a win pose.
4.Tri-Borg - I am happy about his gameplay so far and I hope the Cyrax variation has nets. We haven't seen it yet though that worries me a bit. The Sektor and Smoke variations looks cool. They look like they should with next gen graphics and all.


( Overall the trailer gets an 8.5/10 for me. )