coltess Wrote:
UPDATE:

"New" Sub-Zero is, in fact, Frost having undergone a sex change. The rage which she used on Sub-Zero in the original timeline was caused by repressed gender identity issues. Without Sub-Zero to project her feelings, and ultimately rage onto, Frost was forced to come to terms with the fact that she was a man trapped in a woman's body and underwent gender-reassignment surgery.



Seriously, I'm a loyal Sub-Zero fan, but lighten up. If MK3 suspenders couldn't kill him, nothing can.

Viser Wrote:
Bla-bla-bla

Quakeman Wrote:
You probably got hit in the groin a lot as a child.

Jaded-Raven Wrote:
... you're the one bringing the hatred into the thread.

Scar_Subby Wrote:
Yeah, I don't get why Sub-Zero fans can't complain about their character, but others can? Makes no sense. Looking at it that way is almost hipster-ish. Like eww those guys like Sub-Zero they don't get to have an opinion because they like a popular character. It's bull is what it is.

phishstix17 Wrote:
I think people are finding it hard to be empathetic because you guys have it soooo easy. Sub-Zero and Scorpion have been and will be in every game! Meanwhile, we're all facing the big possibility our favorites will never be seen again.

Sorry you don't like the way they're portraying one of the only characters they're deciding to keep though.

The pain of my loss is just too much to sympathize though

mkmileena Wrote:
Sign me up for the "it's subzero, he's in every game so why are you complaining" band wagon

But really.

I'm not saying to have your worries are wrong, but to post about it now with the rest of the cast and fan favorites not confirmed is a bit of a slap in the face to us who are hoping for their characters to make an appearance who are likely not to be in the game with all this new character bull.

T-rex Wrote:
Say, you seem to be a Mileena fan.

Would it be okay with you if the current Mileena got replaced by one of Shang's abominations that escaped from the Flesh Pits and killed Mileena off-screen, but then decided to start wearing her clothes and copying her moves for no apparent reason?

WHAT ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT YOUR PRECIOUS MILEENA IS IN THE GAME LOOK SHE'S RIGHT THERE

RedSumac Wrote:


Just reaction on baseless assumptions.
And entertainment.

T-rex Wrote:
Y'know, just the other day I actually took Mythologies off of my shelf because I had a sudden urge to reread the lore in the back of the manual, and I gotta say, for as much shit as I usually give Tobias for MK4, this is the best stuff he's ever written, and no matter how many times I read it, it never fails to reinvigorate my respect for the man.

That's why it was so upsetting to watch NRS fuck with it.

Aside from completely botching Sindel's resurrection, they rewote the backstory of the Sub-Zero brothers to remove any mention of their father or anything else to suggest that the Sub-Zero name has generations of legacy behind it. If you didn't know any better, you could think that the entire Sub-Zero lineage started right there with these two clowns, because there's nothing in the game to suggest otherwise. I suppose the wording in the bio and the vignette was vague enough to allow for the possibility that the canon established by Tobias still applies, but I wouldn't hold my breath at this point.


So let me ask you, then, if it's not Kuai we're seeing here on these screenshots, who the hell else would pick up the mantle?


A new guy?

Sure, I suppose there's nothing really stopping them from fucking up the Mythologies canon even harder.

They could claim that there was nothing inherently unique about the Sub-Zero bloodline, because as it turns out, there's actually a bunch of cryomancers just running around everywhere! I mean, yeah, there was Frost, and we never did figure out what her deal was, so I guess that's a possibility.

Or, alternatively, they could cheapen the entire concept of Kori powers by claiming that one does not have to be born with the ability, and any random fuck could learn and master them if he tried really-really hard.

I'm honestly not sure which is worse.


Bi-Han?

The only reason that the Soulnado thing worked in MKDA is because Scorpion is, at his heart of hearts, not an evil person, and the Elder Gods must have recognized that, or else they would not have made him their Champion and emissary.

Bi-Han is the biggest prick in the MK universe. Why would they bother purifying this asshole's soul and give him an opportunity to redeem himself? He is a villainous bastard, and he's great at it.

Hell, is there anybody here who didn't like him as Noob? So why would anybody want him to fucking backpedal through his entire development back to its starting point?

I just don't understand...


Some kind of demented fusion of the two brothers?

Why, so he could have some stupid split personality gimmick? Why in the name of fuck would anybody want that?



So even though it's probably hopeless, I'm still hoping for Kuai.

Transplanted from a parallel timeline or escaping Netherrealm with Sareena's help to discover the tomb of his ancestors, whatever, I don't give a shit at this point.

There is no denying that he was by far and away the most developed character in the OT. I'm pretty sure Vogel and the rest of the story guys are aware of that. Just as they're aware of the massive backlash on account of Cyber-Zero. And I think creating a bit of a buzz in the community by relying on shock value certainly wasn't worth throwing away several games worth of character development of one of your A-listers like a used napkin.


[jimmies status = rustled]

RedSumac Wrote:

Whatever. Emofans illogical teary outbursts are fun. It is hilarious to see, how some people could get crazy about even tiny insignificant details.
And Sub-Zero is not only Kuai Liang. It's objective fact. Deal with it.

If there is a reason not to have Noob Saibot and instead have Bi-Han as Sub-Zero once more - I am OK with this. I am always for radical changes and mixing things up, especially when things are stale. MKX is all about mixing things up and providing new blood for the series. So, if developers decide, that Sub-Zero is Bi-Han or whoever, but not Kuai Liang - they got my support. If he is Kuai Liang - I am OK with this too. Even if no one of my favorites is in the game - I am OK with this, because NRS has reasons not to include them. Not to spite me, or anyone, but actual reasons. But I guess it takes some levelheadedness to understand this.
You can't have everything.

P.S.
Sam ti lox.


And you probably have manners of an angsty pig, so?


Just reaction on baseless assumptions.
And entertainment.

T-rex Wrote:
Y'know, just the other day I actually took Mythologies off of my shelf because I had a sudden urge to reread the lore in the back of the manual, and I gotta say, for as much shit as I usually give Tobias for MK4, this is the best stuff he's ever written, and no matter how many times I read it, it never fails to reinvigorate my respect for the man.

That's why it was so upsetting to watch NRS fuck with it.

Aside from completely botching Sindel's resurrection, they rewote the backstory of the Sub-Zero brothers to remove any mention of their father or anything else to suggest that the Sub-Zero name has generations of legacy behind it. If you didn't know any better, you could think that the entire Sub-Zero lineage started right there with these two clowns, because there's nothing in the game to suggest otherwise. I suppose the wording in the bio and the vignette was vague enough to allow for the possibility that the canon established by Tobias still applies, but I wouldn't hold my breath at this point.


So let me ask you, then, if it's not Kuai we're seeing here on these screenshots, who the hell else would pick up the mantle?


A new guy?

Sure, I suppose there's nothing really stopping them from fucking up the Mythologies canon even harder.

They could claim that there was nothing inherently unique about the Sub-Zero bloodline, because as it turns out, there's actually a bunch of cryomancers just running around everywhere! I mean, yeah, there was Frost, and we never did figure out what her deal was, so I guess that's a possibility.

Or, alternatively, they could cheapen the entire concept of Kori powers by claiming that one does not have to be born with the ability, and any random fuck could learn and master them if he tried really-really hard.

I'm honestly not sure which is worse.


Bi-Han?

The only reason that the Soulnado thing worked in MKDA is because Scorpion is, at his heart of hearts, not an evil person, and the Elder Gods must have recognized that, or else they would not have made him their Champion and emissary.

Bi-Han is the biggest prick in the MK universe. Why would they bother purifying this asshole's soul and give him an opportunity to redeem himself? He is a villainous bastard, and he's great at it.

Hell, is there anybody here who didn't like him as Noob? So why would anybody want him to fucking backpedal through his entire development back to its starting point?

I just don't understand...


Some kind of demented fusion of the two brothers?

Why, so he could have some stupid split personality gimmick? Why in the name of fuck would anybody want that?



So even though it's probably hopeless, I'm still hoping for Kuai.

Transplanted from a parallel timeline or escaping Netherrealm with Sareena's help to discover the tomb of his ancestors, whatever, I don't give a shit at this point.

There is no denying that he was by far and away the most developed character in the OT. I'm pretty sure Vogel and the rest of the story guys are aware of that. Just as they're aware of the massive backlash on account of Cyber-Zero. And I think creating a bit of a buzz in the community by relying on shock value certainly wasn't worth throwing away several games worth of character development of one of your A-listers like a used napkin.


[jimmies status = rustled]

DG1OA Wrote:
Nobody should worry about Kuai Liang. He's probably kept very warm in his current residence. And he's wearing armor all over his body. He is safe, and protected.

Jaded-Raven Wrote:
Well, you get the respect you deserve. Which is none.

Charybdis Wrote:
The more the KL obsessives talk about him, the more I kinda want BH. KL only really got character to me in MKDA-MKA, in MK2-4 he was the new SZ who isn't an asshole. Having BH as SZ, being an unashamed dickhead might actually give bite to Scorpion vs Sub Zero again.

Quakeman Wrote:
Ever since he got turned into that damn cyborg I've worried what would become of my Kuai Liang aka the TRUE Sub-Zero, or just Subby for short. Ed boon doesn't really seem to even recognize Subby as a person, just an identity. At least that's the vibe I got from him after he was asked about him during gamespot's E3 coverage. So If that means Subby won't be Kuai Liang, or if Kuai Liang isn't even a character, I will cry

RedSumac Wrote:

Ha-ha. As if I care about respect from random nobodies on internet.


Great idea.

RedSumac Wrote:

Ha-ha. As if I care about respect from random nobodies on internet.


Great idea.

RedSumac Wrote:

Great idea.

Scar_Subby Wrote:
Guys do not feed him. Myself, Razor, and Jaded have all had problems with him in the past. Just ignore him and he will stop.

projectzero00 Wrote:


You're not that much better dude. All you've done in this thread so far is gang up against him when he clearly replies to other people and not to you. Why even bother? Do you feel better if you are in a majority cursing at someone? I'd say you've kissed Jaded's ass enough so far. Find another hobby now. Coz he is clearly trolling you guys and you fall for it like crazy.