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ShadowPreacher
07/11/2012 10:21 PM (UTC)
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I like Liu, but human Smoke in MK9 was just too awesome to not vote for.

They've both come a long way from their lowpoints in Deception. Thank god the days of Zombie Liu and Cyber-Demon/Gimp/Whatever Smoke in the dumb mask are over.
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07/11/2012 11:32 PM (UTC)
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Sorry Liu, my boy Smoke is just far more interesting a character than you.
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07/11/2012 11:39 PM (UTC)
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I'm gonna vote for Smoke on this one. I wasn't much of a fan prior to MK9, but he finally came into his own, much like Ermac in Deception and Rain in Armageddon had.

Liu Kang has always bored me. I guess I'm alone in that I liked him best when he was a zombie in Deception. While I don't want them to go down that road again, Liu Kang's gonna need an interesting twist to his story next time.
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07/12/2012 12:08 AM (UTC)
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I voted for the guy. Because hes pretty awesome. Even if you dont think so.
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UlcaTron
07/12/2012 12:14 AM (UTC)
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I'm kinda sad Liu Kang is losing so bad. I wanted to see a shaolin face off in the bottom half finals.
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zerosebaz
07/12/2012 12:24 AM (UTC)
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ShadowPreacher Wrote:
I like Liu, but human Smoke in MK9 was just too awesome to not vote for.

They've both come a long way from their lowpoints in Deception. Thank god the days of Zombie Liu and Cyber-Demon/Gimp/Whatever Smoke in the dumb mask are over.



Ha. I always thought that his story in MKD was his best story to date, and i even consider it one of the best in MK in general. Liu had become (in fact had always been) a boring charachter, his death was one of the greates things that happened to MK from a story standpoint, allowing the great MKDA argument and then letting him come back as a secondary charachter. I wish they had used his spirit model for his alternate costume, that would've been great.
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07/12/2012 12:49 AM (UTC)
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zerosebaz Wrote:
ShadowPreacher Wrote:
I like Liu, but human Smoke in MK9 was just too awesome to not vote for.

They've both come a long way from their lowpoints in Deception. Thank god the days of Zombie Liu and Cyber-Demon/Gimp/Whatever Smoke in the dumb mask are over.



Ha. I always thought that his story in MKD was his best story to date, and i even consider it one of the best in MK in general. Liu had become (in fact had always been) a boring charachter, his death was one of the greates things that happened to MK from a story standpoint, allowing the great MKDA argument and then letting him come back as a secondary charachter. I wish they had used his spirit model for his alternate costume, that would've been great.
zerosebaz Wrote:
ShadowPreacher Wrote:
I like Liu, but human Smoke in MK9 was just too awesome to not vote for.

They've both come a long way from their lowpoints in Deception. Thank god the days of Zombie Liu and Cyber-Demon/Gimp/Whatever Smoke in the dumb mask are over.



Ha. I always thought that his story in MKD was his best story to date, and i even consider it one of the best in MK in general. Liu had become (in fact had always been) a boring charachter, his death was one of the greates things that happened to MK from a story standpoint, allowing the great MKDA argument and then letting him come back as a secondary charachter. I wish they had used his spirit model for his alternate costume, that would've been great.
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07/12/2012 12:50 AM (UTC)
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UlcaTron Wrote:
I'm kinda sad Liu Kang is losing so bad. I wanted to see a shaolin face off in the bottom half finals.


That Would Be Boring. confused
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07/12/2012 12:53 AM (UTC)
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I vote smoke for his back-story. If they follow through with his enera demon form from his ending he can evolve into a great character. So then he can go along his own path rather than just being a no body.
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donsian
07/12/2012 01:02 AM (UTC)
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I voted liu kang (i just closed my eyes and clicked a choice)
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(Erik)
07/12/2012 01:08 AM (UTC)
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Liu Kang because seniority.
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petrcech
07/12/2012 01:32 AM (UTC)
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Liu Kang is the champion of Mortal Kombat, enough said. Mr. Mortal Kombat gets my vote without a doubt.

I am shocked to see him being defeated by so much, by a third division character. Don't get me wrong, Smoke is a pretty interesting character. In fact, he was IMO one of the best fighters in MK9, gameplay wise.

However, he's not going up against some cheap Moloch or Jarek. People he is going up against Liu Kang himself. Liu's story is boring and blah blah blah, enough of that. Liu Kang is Liu Kang and for that he should be winning. I didnt expect Liu Kang to win the entire competition, but I didn't imagine him leaving the competition in such a way, against such a character.

Characters like Smoke and Ermac were not really much before MK9. These characters are favorites of the new generation of MK fans. Old school MK fans, I am sure will see where I'm coming from.
Btw Liu Kang is not my favorite character, not a huge fan of the guy but I do respect his history. Same as Shang stung, who lost to Ermac -_-
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07/12/2012 01:39 AM (UTC)
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annilation Wrote:
I vote smoke for his back-story. If they follow through with his enera demon form from his ending he can evolve into a great character. So then he can go along his own path rather than just being a no body.


I voted Liu, for the sole fact that I know Smoke is going to blow him out of the water too. Smoke is going to win the whole thing, I'm calling it now. Don't know how he got so popular, but like I said to each their own.

@annilation:

Really, just curious what doors does it open for him exactly. I'm not picking a fight, but it more or less tells how Smoke came to have smoke powers to me. Yes, it does give him a great background, and it explains why he has these powers perfectly.

However, essentially Smoke is a demon of smoke. In deception he was the exact same thing. He was a demon made of smoke nanobots. I don't understand what exactly makes him so different now than he was then.

Sorry if I sound negative, I'm not meaning too I just really don't understand how he's different now from then as far as story goes.

For those who voted Jade out, let me say this. Smoke outvoting Liu Kang this badly is ridiculous considering how many people were so pissed off at Jade winning for the majority of that poll. Smoke is in the exact same position as Jade is but for some reason it's okay to vote for him.
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07/12/2012 01:56 AM (UTC)
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I don't particularly like Kang, based on the fact that he's simply a dull character. In a world of awesome monsters and spiritual creatures, why would I ever pick the average looking Chinese guy?

Although, I did vote for Kang here, simply because Smoke is the annoying jerk character everyone picks and spams the same moves over and over again. Pick up MK9, play online, nine times out of ten I'm fighting someone who's playing Smoke. badly.
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07/12/2012 02:05 AM (UTC)
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Shesgotclaws Wrote:
I don't particularly like Kang, based on the fact that he's simply a dull character. In a world of awesome monsters and spiritual creatures, why would I ever pick the average looking Chinese guy?

Although, I did vote for Kang here, simply because Smoke is the annoying jerk character everyone picks and spams the same moves over and over again. Pick up MK9, play online, nine times out of ten I'm fighting someone who's playing Smoke. badly.


Yep, either Smoke, Scorpion, Ermac, or Noob Saibot. Those are the four horsemen of MK Online play.
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07/12/2012 02:55 AM (UTC)
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I gotta vote for Smoke, he's been my favorite character ever since he was first introduced as a playable character in MK3. Smoke in my opinion is going to win the competition it doesn't matter who he faces, Smoke will most likely win & he will always have my vote. All respect to Liu Kang though but Smoke's got him beat.
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07/12/2012 03:48 AM (UTC)
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daryui Wrote:
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Never liked Jerrod inside of Ermac. I was content with him being made of Outworld souls.

Dude... Jerrod was only ONE of the many souls. It just so happens that Jerrod was the strongest of them all in his ending and took control over the being Ermac.

I know that already.

By the way, daryui, I find it particularly funny that sometimes you state that you hate Human Smoke (hating a VG character, eh?) and sometimes that you love Cyber Smoke. That's pretty conflicting because without Human Smoke there wouldn't be Cyber Smoke. Anyway, do whatever you want (this is a fun competition surely) but your premises are mindblowing.
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07/12/2012 04:08 AM (UTC)
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petrcech Wrote:
Liu Kang is the champion of Mortal Kombat, enough said. Mr. Mortal Kombat gets my vote without a doubt.

I am shocked to see him being defeated by so much, by a third division character. Don't get me wrong, Smoke is a pretty interesting character. In fact, he was IMO one of the best fighters in MK9, gameplay wise.

However, he's not going up against some cheap Moloch or Jarek. People he is going up against Liu Kang himself. Liu's story is boring and blah blah blah, enough of that. Liu Kang is Liu Kang and for that he should be winning. I didnt expect Liu Kang to win the entire competition, but I didn't imagine him leaving the competition in such a way, against such a character.

Characters like Smoke and Ermac were not really much before MK9. These characters are favorites of the new generation of MK fans. Old school MK fans, I am sure will see where I'm coming from.


Untrue. I've been an MK fan since II was in the arcades, and personally, Smoke was right up there for me from day one (not to mention the masses of people who used both of Smoke's forms and Ermac in UMK3 - they were among the most popular caracters because of how lethal they were in gameplay). You're not giving the guy enough credit; 'third division' doesn't cover it. Whether he's human or cyber, Smoke has always had a respectable, dedicated fanbase - point in fact, I honestly can't recall all the users I've seen here on MKO over the years who've had Smoke-themed usernames, avatars & signatures. He's absolutely B-class.

You can argue that he's not up to the level of main supporting cast members like Sonya or Cage, but I'd say it's more than fair to say he is. Starting with MK3 onward, Sub-Zero's soap opera of a life has put together its own cast apart from the main Earthrealm defenders, and that's one where I'd definitely say Smoke's a main supporting member and important figure, more at the forefront than it would seem at first glance, given the fact that Sub has the reputation of being MK's real central figure. Smoke's the equivalent over there to Cage and Sonya for Kang. He ain't no Scorpion or Liu Kang, but he's no Stryker or Sheeva either (no offense to fans of either of those two chracters - who I do love - but I'd say those two define 'C-class' quite nicely).
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07/12/2012 04:25 AM (UTC)
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Shadaloo Wrote:
petrcech Wrote:
Liu Kang is the champion of Mortal Kombat, enough said. Mr. Mortal Kombat gets my vote without a doubt.

I am shocked to see him being defeated by so much, by a third division character. Don't get me wrong, Smoke is a pretty interesting character. In fact, he was IMO one of the best fighters in MK9, gameplay wise.

However, he's not going up against some cheap Moloch or Jarek. People he is going up against Liu Kang himself. Liu's story is boring and blah blah blah, enough of that. Liu Kang is Liu Kang and for that he should be winning. I didnt expect Liu Kang to win the entire competition, but I didn't imagine him leaving the competition in such a way, against such a character.

Characters like Smoke and Ermac were not really much before MK9. These characters are favorites of the new generation of MK fans. Old school MK fans, I am sure will see where I'm coming from.


Untrue. I've been an MK fan since II was in the arcades, and personally, Smoke was right up there for me from day one (not to mention the masses of people who used both of Smoke's forms and Ermac in UMK3 - they were among the most popular caracters because of how lethal they were in gameplay). You're not giving the guy enough credit; 'third division' doesn't cover it. Whether he's human or cyber, Smoke has always had a respectable, dedicated fanbase - point in fact, I honestly can't recall all the users I've seen here on MKO over the years who've had Smoke-themed usernames, avatars & signatures. He's absolutely B-class.

You can argue that he's not up to the level of main supporting cast members like Sonya or Cage, but I'd say it's more than fair to say he is. Starting with MK3 onward, Sub-Zero's soap opera of a life has put together its own cast apart from the main Earthrealm defenders, and that's one where I'd definitely say Smoke's a main supporting member and important figure, more at the forefront than it would seem at first glance, given the fact that Sub has the reputation of being MK's real central figure. Smoke's the equivalent over there to Cage and Sonya for Kang. He ain't no Scorpion or Liu Kang, but he's no Stryker or Sheeva either (no offense to fans of either of those two chracters - who I do love - but I'd say those two define 'C-class' quite nicely).


^ That.

Although I can't say that I liked Smoke/Ermac before MK9, but I only got back into the series recently (after being thoroughly freaked out by it in my younger years), and I liked both of their stories in the games previous, too.

Also, it seems that the newer MK fans are being given a bad name around here, which isn't really fair. Old school, new school, whatever, still MK fans and should be grouped as one, not individually.
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07/12/2012 06:15 AM (UTC)
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If this was UMK3 I would've voted Liu kang without a blink nut smoke is so GOOD! in the new one and liu kang has probably the worst gameplay and smokes story is also exciting plus Im a little tired of him being the champion and chosen one and all that.grinwink
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07/12/2012 06:30 AM (UTC)
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Shadaloo Wrote:
petrcech Wrote:
Liu Kang is the champion of Mortal Kombat, enough said. Mr. Mortal Kombat gets my vote without a doubt.

I am shocked to see him being defeated by so much, by a third division character. Don't get me wrong, Smoke is a pretty interesting character. In fact, he was IMO one of the best fighters in MK9, gameplay wise.

However, he's not going up against some cheap Moloch or Jarek. People he is going up against Liu Kang himself. Liu's story is boring and blah blah blah, enough of that. Liu Kang is Liu Kang and for that he should be winning. I didnt expect Liu Kang to win the entire competition, but I didn't imagine him leaving the competition in such a way, against such a character.

Characters like Smoke and Ermac were not really much before MK9. These characters are favorites of the new generation of MK fans. Old school MK fans, I am sure will see where I'm coming from.


Untrue. I've been an MK fan since II was in the arcades, and personally, Smoke was right up there for me from day one (not to mention the masses of people who used both of Smoke's forms and Ermac in UMK3 - they were among the most popular caracters because of how lethal they were in gameplay). You're not giving the guy enough credit; 'third division' doesn't cover it. Whether he's human or cyber, Smoke has always had a respectable, dedicated fanbase - point in fact, I honestly can't recall all the users I've seen here on MKO over the years who've had Smoke-themed usernames, avatars & signatures. He's absolutely B-class.

You can argue that he's not up to the level of main supporting cast members like Sonya or Cage, but I'd say it's more than fair to say he is. Starting with MK3 onward, Sub-Zero's soap opera of a life has put together its own cast apart from the main Earthrealm defenders, and that's one where I'd definitely say Smoke's a main supporting member and important figure, more at the forefront than it would seem at first glance, given the fact that Sub has the reputation of being MK's real central figure. Smoke's the equivalent over there to Cage and Sonya for Kang. He ain't no Scorpion or Liu Kang, but he's no Stryker or Sheeva either (no offense to fans of either of those two chracters - who I do love - but I'd say those two define 'C-class' quite nicely).


Human Smoke was one of my favorite characters in MK3, so trust me I'm definitely aware of his badassness. In MK9 he was IMO one of the top 3 best characters (gameplay wise). Although lets be honest, before MK9 his fanbase was tiny compared to what it is now.

C'mon you can't compare him to characters like Blade and Cage, Smoke is nowhere neither them. His role in the MK universe is petite, not really important. Jax, Kintaro, Quan Chi, Reptile, Baraka, Jade......all these characters are in the 2nd division. You can't say Smoke is equivalent to them. Since you mentioned Sheeva and Stryker, I think Smoke is in the same division as them (division 3). Lame characters such as Moloch and Jarek belong in the least important division (4th).

I hope you don't think I am hating on your man Smoke, he is absolutely awesome. It's just a little sad to see the face of Mortal Kombat being defeated by so much, by IMO a division 3 character.
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07/12/2012 06:33 AM (UTC)
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Liu Kang because seniority.


I really dont get this whole seniority thing...I mean would you vote for Jarek instead if he was up against Kenshi because he came first??
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07/12/2012 07:06 AM (UTC)
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projectzero00 Wrote:
(Erik) Wrote:
Liu Kang because seniority.

I really dont get this whole seniority thing...I mean would you vote for Jarek instead if he was up against Kenshi because he came first??


Erik would likely pick Kenshi because blindness. At least, that's what I think he would pick Kenshi for.


IdealKhan Wrote:
If this was UMK3 I would've voted Liu kang without a blink nut smoke is so GOOD! in the new one and liu kang has probably the worst gameplay and smokes story is also exciting plus Im a little tired of him being the champion and chosen one and all that.grinwink


Everybody's gameplay in MK9 is different, Liu Kang's gameplay is simply the worst for you. Mileena's gameplay is the hardest for me.

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I hope you don't think I am hating on your man Smoke, he is absolutely awesome. It's just a little sad to see the face of Mortal Kombat being defeated by so much, by IMO a division 3 character.


I agree with you, petrcech.
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07/12/2012 08:24 AM (UTC)
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Obviously, I voted Liu Kang. He's the grey ninja with the ridiculous hair, right?
Am I the only one who thinks that Smoke's a Dragon Ball fan? Maybe when he comes back to life he'll go Super Enera on Shinnok. tongue
petrcech wrote:
I hope you don't think I am hating on your man Smoke, he is absolutely awesome. It's just a little sad to see the face of Mortal Kombat being defeated by so much, by IMO a division 3 character.

What're you talking about? Scorpion was eliminated a while ago.
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07/12/2012 08:55 AM (UTC)
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Obviously, I voted Liu Kang. He's the grey ninja with the ridiculous hair, right?
Am I the only one who thinks that Smoke's a Dragon Ball fan? Maybe when he comes back to life he'll go Super Enera on Shinnok. tongue
petrcech wrote:
I hope you don't think I am hating on your man Smoke, he is absolutely awesome. It's just a little sad to see the face of Mortal Kombat being defeated by so much, by IMO a division 3 character.

What're you talking about? Scorpion was eliminated a while ago.


Oh man I know what you mean. I definitely see where you are coming from.
Scorpion is the poster boy of Mortal Kombat, which can also be described as the face of MK. When it comes down to the story of MK, Liu Kang is the champion and the face of MK, not Scorpion. Scorpion is the poster boy of MK; Liu Kang is the face of MK. Don't get those statements twisted.
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