Fenix Wrote:
I don't normally weigh in now that I have my own site, but 6 pages later, we are still complaining about extra content. In an age when companies are LITERALLY nickel and dime-ing us over gameplay, (Capcom DLC), recycled content (Activision DLC), and embellishments like costumes and music and voice packs (japanese DLC) that could all have been completed in time for release. Really, a sad day on the internet.

Think about it, this is the exchange.
Jaffe/NRS/???: Hey, we're putting this extra thing in the game. You don't have to use it, but we hope you like it.
You: Bullshit, hide it! take it out! You're ruining what is otherwise a perfectly fantastic game! Why don't you look at me when we make love!?!

There's no anti-kratos argument that makes sense.

1. He doesn't fit - Well, neither did Batman, Shazam, or Joker, and we all got along just fine. 3 million copies fine. Shit, broken and boring as it is now, cats are STILL playing MKvDC casually (see: this forum) and seriously (See: NEC/MKU in general).

2. He's a dumb character - A worthless, subjective opinion and C/Khameleon, Daegon, Kira, Dairou, Tanya would like to have a word with you. See how easy that is? He's violent, he's half naked, he's got two swords, and he uses magic powered by the gods. Does that not sound like 75% of the kast?

3. It's not really MK with guest characters - Other things that weren't really MK until they became MK: digitized graphics, 3d gameplay, air combos, living johnny cage, konquest mode, death traps, dead liu kang, combo breakers, dial-a-combos, a centaur, animalities, mini games, pro moves, parries, Sub Zero's scar, a lack of john tobias.

4. He's taking someone else's spot - Oh, so you saw the design documents and know the proper cast list? You know for sure that Kratos bumped your character? Are you sure NRS just doesn't give a shit about your character this time around? See also: Kano in MK2, Scorpion in MK3, EVERYBODY in MK4, Liu Kang in MK5, EVERYBODY in MK6, gameplay in MK7 (oh, snap), EVERYBODY in MK8. No guest characters there, next?

5. It's about the money - Maybe it is all about the money, but MK has never had a problem making money. NEVER. Maybe they just thought it would be cool. Do you know why EVERY feature to date has appeared in an MK? Because Ed Boon / Co thought it would be cool. Watch an interview, watch ALL the interviews. Its all they ever say. Why did we do Create a Fatality? Because we thought it would be cool. Wii motion controls? because the wii is cool. MKvDC? comics are cool. Reptile? Because green scorpion is cool. This is not to say a lot of shit isn't about the money. MKA was about the money. But sometimes developers put shit in their games because they think it is cool and they are still human beings who try and enjoy their jobs, see: MKvDC.

6. Competitive complications - Really? 20+ totally unique characters for the first time in series history, and ONE guest character takes the whole thing off the rails? Rails which ANY tourney player will tell you MK was unfit to ride on since 1995. . . 1995! Anybody beating this drum is VASTLY over stating the impact of guests on the SC2/4 tourney community (I know, I was in them) and banking on a scenario that does not exist anymore.

This isn't '96 where nobody knows anything about a character until a tournament happens. If somebody finds some crazy Kratos shit, and you're a TOURNEY LEVEL player, you're going to know about it the next time you log onto SRK, EH, MKU, or whatever your training ground of choice is. Getting bodied by a "surprise" Kratos will be no different from getting bodied by a surprise "any other member of the cast". And shock and awe,iIf Kratos has some REALLY TRULY crazy shit that you somehow just have to experience first hand to understand (a first for MK) go and find a PS3 to play on. They aren't unicorns, you know.

So either
A) ban him. Done. Shit gets banned all the time, characters, techniques, whatever. Nobody gets their panties in a bunch. Nobody turns over tables cause they can't use handcuffs in TTT. REAL tourney players will just say whatever, and roll over to whatever else IS allowed.
b) allow him, because who gives a shit. If he's broken, its no different from any other broken shit in any other game. (See: MvC2)

I think thats it. Really. I am disgusted at my brothers in fandom. So you don't like Kratos. Fine, you don't have to pick him. That's why its called the character selection screen, not the character forced to play screen. Do you like EVERY other character in the MK Mythos? You like Daegon and Blaze and Meat and Reiko and Tanya more than Kratos? Get over yourself.


-F.

sevendesigns Wrote:I GUARANTEE he will be one of the most loved characters, once it's all said and done. He's just so brutal. There's so much potential here.

Fenix wrote:
5. It's about the money - Maybe it is all about the money, but MK has never had a problem making money. NEVER.

queve Wrote:
Interesting short read but nothing new:

Kratos, Raiden, Sonya and Subby bla bla bla.

Lokheit Wrote:
I have never player GoW, and I dislike Kratos because my favourite 2 greek gods ara Ares and Athenea... the TRUE GODS OF WAR ¬¬, and someone told me that the first thing Kratos does in the first game is

But hey, he can be my new Meat for this game (explanation: meat was the character I used as a punching ball in practice mode), so that's ok :P

Cyborg_Hero Wrote:


If by "first thing" they meant "absolute last thing after then yeah, it's the "first thing."

You really should play GoW.

m0s3pH Wrote:
tl;dr- You're complaining about people complaining, so you have no leg to stand on. Have a nice day.

RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
and I wouldn't do that just because those sorts of people aren't the maturity level I like to consort with (there's a reason MKO is the only MK site I post on currently. This is where all the grown-ups who like to talk story hang out).