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owen_pwned
05/31/2007 11:30 PM (UTC)
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But the point is he sustained a jaw injury before wrestlemania so he had to lose the money in the bank with Kennedy winning it so it would be pointless without streak vs streak at the big time but I suppose Edge could feel jealous and try make taker lose his streak at mania.
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Zentile
05/31/2007 11:46 PM (UTC)
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superawesomeness Wrote:

Yeah well I didn't know all that crap cuz I don't go on google all the time searching for news.


Hum... was that supposed to be like calling me a loser or something? Not trying to start anything, just making sure... I dont go searching on google for news all the time, I just check out nodq.com everyday and read Lance Storm's comments on his website.


And about WWE's buyrates dropping and TNA's rising... That means NOTHING since WWE's ratings are still way more than TNA's. Again, remember, WWE has THREE shows... and Saturday Night's Main Event specials... and while in one WWE pay per view you can see draws such as Edge, Shawn Micheals, Randy Orton, Benoit, Undertaker, Kane, Vince McMahon, Bobby Lashley, Batista, Triple H and Rey Mysterio in just ONE pay per view, TNA's star power consists only of Kurt Angle, Sting, Scott Steiner and Christian Cage. Ouch.

Until there is a year where WWE actually loses money instead of making money for a change, and TNA does the opposite, then it might have a chance.
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firesnake
06/01/2007 12:30 AM (UTC)
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if wwe is so great than why does the audiance at a wwe shoe screame boring and they even chant TNA TNA TNA explain that
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superawesomeness
06/01/2007 12:57 AM (UTC)
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WWE does have a bigger fan base though. Its all about the little kids. Thats why John Cena is still holding the title because little kids worship him. Don't get me wrong, I love WWE, I watch RAW every monday, just not Smackdown! cuz it gets boring. It was waaay better back in the old days with the Stone Cold Era and the Rock era, the D-X, Too Cool. I mean, who didn't love watching Too Cool dancing every night in the middle of the ring?
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06/01/2007 01:06 AM (UTC)
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R.I.P WWF. I miss WWF soooooo bad, when they changed to WWE it started to suck!! I didn't mind Cena having the US Title, but the WWE title!!?? For that long!?! WHY!?! DAMN YOU LITTLE KIDS!! I can't wait for these kids to grow up and realize how boring and bad of a wrestler Cena really is. I want these kids to realize, you don't have to be a good guy to awesome (Mr.Kennedy, Triple HHH, MVP). And when I say HHH i mean from the past, I mean from the WWF!!! i love seeing Too Cool dance in the middle of the ring for absolutley no reason. But times change and people leave the WWE. We just gotta wait for some new, entertaining talent to join WWE and it will go from really over the top, to, REALLY over the top. Theres never gonna be another Rock, Stone Cold, or D-X. Another Too Cool is possible cuz some of the writers at WWE are a little deedeedee.
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firesnake
06/01/2007 02:05 AM (UTC)
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superawesomeness Wrote:
WWE does have a bigger fan base though. Its all about the little kids. Thats why John Cena is still holding the title because little kids worship him. Don't get me wrong, I love WWE, I watch RAW every monday, just not Smackdown! cuz it gets boring. It was waaay better back in the old days with the Stone Cold Era and the Rock era, the D-X, Too Cool. I mean, who didn't love watching Too Cool dancing every night in the middle of the ring?

the only reasons wwe has a bigger fan base is becuase it's been out there longer
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gnrlies1992
06/01/2007 03:20 AM (UTC)
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Stop arguing. I'm a huge fan of both and acctually favor TNA, but lets face facts,

WWE>TNA any day. Bigger events, bigger match cards, Bigger time slot. The only REAL competition WWE had was WCW, and it's dead now. Period.

TNA has the chance to be great, but if they don't get the following:
A better time slot on a better day
A longer time limit
More wrestling
Better wrestlers
Retire the Shit that holds it down
stop taking the rejects
Stop ending matches in DQ
stop being shitty

Then the company is gonna flop. BIG TIME.
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firesnake
06/01/2007 03:59 AM (UTC)
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we are not arguing we are having a discussion that's the point of this thred
gnrlies1992 Wrote:
Stop arguing. I'm a huge fan of both and acctually favor TNA, but lets face facts,

WWE>TNA any day. Bigger events, bigger match cards, Bigger time slot. The only REAL competition WWE had was WCW, and it's dead now. Period.

TNA has the chance to be great, but if they don't get the following:
A better time slot on a better day
A longer time limit
More wrestling
Better wrestlers
Retire the Shit that holds it down
stop taking the rejects
Stop ending matches in DQ
stop being shitty

Then the company is gonna flop. BIG TIME.

and i agree that tna needs improvement like a better timslot but better wrestlers no they already have great wrestlers
for the people favouring raw over smackdown is cause there john cena fanboys. i hate john cena and everything he does i just hate. i never watch raw anymore except like if something big happends like draft lottery.

i actually enjoy smackdown way more than raw. people actually wrestle in there and dont havee to see vince mcmahon half the time on the show. also in smackdown pay-per-views there are chances the title well change.
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06/01/2007 05:19 AM (UTC)
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Actually, I watch Raw and it's not because of Cena... actually, I hate his ass and Ashley's.
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06/01/2007 05:27 AM (UTC)
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firesnake Wrote:
if wwe is so great than why does the audiance at a wwe shoe screame boring and they even chant TNA TNA TNA explain that

'Cause they are dumb and should go watch TNA instead... It's like going to BurgerKing and yell because you can't get a bigmac...
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06/01/2007 05:32 AM (UTC)
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the average tna match is around 5 minutes tops. one of tna's biggest problems is that they are so willing to pick a wwe reject just on their name alone, knowing damn wel that they only have an hour show. so what happens to the men that's been around since day one? pushed down the card barely able to see the light of day again. the x division has been throughly shat on. sting, kurt angle, samoa joe, and abyss are throughly shoved down our throats. it just gets mindless and repetitive after a while.

and of course tna has huge writing problems. why they keep bringing in vince russo i'll never know. apparently before his newest stint with the company, he hadn't watched it since his last run which was roughly a year-year and a half. he didn't know some of the newer faces and came in with material for a two hour show not knowing that they still were a one hour show. i won't sit here and say that russo is the main problem because that is in fact far from the truth, but he sure as hell isn't the solution that he's made out to be.
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firesnake
06/01/2007 07:47 AM (UTC)
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but it's obvious in terms of wrestling TNA is way better than wwe
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owen_pwned
06/01/2007 07:57 AM (UTC)
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I think smackdowns done well over the past year to have no Hulk Hogan or Vince Mcmahon
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Zentile
06/01/2007 02:49 PM (UTC)
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firesnake Wrote:
but it's obvious in terms of wrestling TNA is way better than wwe



Nope. It's certainly not obvious. WWE has better psychology in their matches. I get alot more involved with WWE matches then TNA matches, but maybe that might be because TNA has the most boring wrestlers alive.
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TheMkGeek
06/01/2007 06:58 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
firesnake Wrote:
but it's obvious in terms of wrestling TNA is way better than wwe



Nope. It's certainly not obvious. WWE has better psychology in their matches. I get alot more involved with WWE matches then TNA matches, but maybe that might be because TNA has the most boring wrestlers alive.


Agreed. TNA needs to freshen up the talent pool.
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firesnake
06/01/2007 09:36 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
firesnake Wrote:
but it's obvious in terms of wrestling TNA is way better than wwe



Nope. It's certainly not obvious. WWE has better psychology in their matches. I get alot more involved with WWE matches then TNA matches, but maybe that might be because TNA has the most boring wrestlers alive.

which wrestlers are boring yes some are but most aren't but look at wwe most of the guys do the same suff over and over and over again wwe shoves them down are throats
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owen_pwned
06/01/2007 09:43 PM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
firesnake Wrote:
but it's obvious in terms of wrestling TNA is way better than wwe



Nope. It's certainly not obvious. WWE has better psychology in their matches. I get alot more involved with WWE matches then TNA matches, but maybe that might be because TNA has the most boring wrestlers alive.



I agree the chemistry between wrestlers in the wwe can sometimes be absolutely unbelievable..

Also who agrees that Randy Orton is a crap wrestler as in ring ability.
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Zentile
06/01/2007 11:58 PM (UTC)
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I love Orton. One of the few guys I like watching in WWE.


As for TNA, let me list the guys who I find absolutely boring or / and worthless:

Chris Harris, Eric Young, Havok, James Storm, Kaz, Lance Hoyt, Martyr, Rob Roode, and Sonjay Dutt (and until they got released, I also didn't give a shit about the Naturals and A1). And the only thing keeping Petey Williams from being on that list is the canadian destroyer, which I hate but I must admit is very unique- this means he goes into the crap category, instead of boring.

Alex Shelley, Austin Starr, Brother Runt, Jerry Lynn, Raven, Ron Killings and Senshi aren't getting the pushes they deserve, and therefore also do not qualify as stars, though I do like seeing them in the ring (well, except brother Runt).

VKM and LAX get their tag team pushes but they're quite boring aswell...

Sabin doesn't deserve his push, and I dont like the deal with Jay Lethal becoming Black Machismo though it's a start to making guys more individual.

Really the only part of the roster that has any interest at all is the main event. Steiners, Dudleyz, AJ, Angle, Christian, Sting and Abyss. The truth is, TNA has ALWAYS had this problem: lack of star power and lack of CHARACTERS. I remember when I first started watching TNA, man it was the absolute shits. Everybody looked just like everybody else. With the exception of Raven, AJ, Jarret, Abyss, Chris Daniels and Amazing Red, every guy in the roster seemed to have at least one clone. The situation is much better now, but the problem's still there. WWE's jobbers like Sylvan, Shannon Moore, The Miz, Funaki and Little Guido are more memorable and unique then most of TNA's roster. I'd rather give Sylvan heat for a good heel promo and basic heel vs face match then give Martyr any kind of reaction at all, since I dont even know what the fuck he's supposed to be.
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owen_pwned
06/02/2007 12:10 AM (UTC)
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I just find Randy Ortons matches really boring because he gets them in a chin lock for five minutes the occasional dropkick maybe Randy Orton could redeem himself in his feud with hhh at summerslam the reason they feud is because Randy "concused" Shawn Micheals but maybe he could have redeemed him self much earlier in this and last year if he weren't such an ass in real life.
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Zentile
06/02/2007 12:11 AM (UTC)
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Oh, and


It looks like it's going to be scalpers night off in Nashville on June 17th as ticket sales for TNA's Slammiversary pay-per-view have been sluggish to say the least. If you go to Ticketmaster.com, you can still get a third row seat. On the first day tickets went on sale at Nashville's Municipal Auditorium, which was two Saturdays ago and had TNA talent on hand to sign autographs, only 67 people showed up. There were 67 people there because a person who was there noted that nobody ever got behind him while he was waiting in line for his ticket. The reason for the sluggish sales may be due to the high ticket prices. Ringside seats are $125, which might be out of the price range for the Nashville locals who were used to getting in for free when TNA ran weekly pay-per-views there. The crowds at the weekly pay-per-views often appeared to be at a very low level of income and are regarded by some as one of the lowest socio-economic crowds to ever witness pro wrestling events, so that might explain why the ticket sales have been really bad. The Municipal Auditorium holds about 8,500 people, so TNA has their work cut out for them.

Bringing in former NFL player Frank Wycheck to wrestle James Storm in a match looks to be a last ditch effort at boosting sagging ticket sales for Slammiversary. Wycheck hosts a high-rated radio show not to mention that there is a gigantic picture of him hanging from the Titans' stadium, so as you can see, he still is a popular figure in the area. Every local news outlet covered this story last night, including airing footage of his scuffle with Jeff Jarrett at a weekly pay-per-view in 2002.



So, yeah.
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superawesomeness
06/02/2007 12:23 AM (UTC)
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Yeah! I love watching this : TOO COOL
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Zentile
06/02/2007 12:34 AM (UTC)
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Well all three of them have now been released by WWE, but they were always really over.
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superawesomeness
06/02/2007 12:36 AM (UTC)
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Zentile Wrote:
Well all three of them have now been released by WWE, but they were always really over.


Yeah it sucks. But seriously, who didn't enjoy watching them?
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06/02/2007 12:38 AM (UTC)
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