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cm punk to raw or smackdown please.
i think there gonna send rey rey to ecw just give it some life, also with chris benoit.
did u know they have switched randy on both draft lotteries in history?
hes gonna get switched... again. hes gonna have a 3-0 in draft lottery.
i think there gonna send rey rey to ecw just give it some life, also with chris benoit.
did u know they have switched randy on both draft lotteries in history?
hes gonna get switched... again. hes gonna have a 3-0 in draft lottery.
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cm punk to raw or smackdown please.
i think there gonna send rey rey to ecw just give it some life, also with chris benoit.
did u know they have switched randy on both draft lotteries in history?
hes gonna get switched... again. hes gonna have a 3-0 in draft lottery.
cm punk to raw or smackdown please.
i think there gonna send rey rey to ecw just give it some life, also with chris benoit.
did u know they have switched randy on both draft lotteries in history?
hes gonna get switched... again. hes gonna have a 3-0 in draft lottery.
He ain't gonna get drafted, they won't want him to be on the same show as Edge.
For Mysterio and Benoit going to ECW, that I think could work, but I don't see Benoit moving from Smackdown... I think they'll want him to stay there, but the move could work.
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subzeroisgod Wrote:
cm punk to raw or smackdown please.
i think there gonna send rey rey to ecw just give it some life, also with chris benoit.
did u know they have switched randy on both draft lotteries in history?
hes gonna get switched... again. hes gonna have a 3-0 in draft lottery.
cm punk to raw or smackdown please.
i think there gonna send rey rey to ecw just give it some life, also with chris benoit.
did u know they have switched randy on both draft lotteries in history?
hes gonna get switched... again. hes gonna have a 3-0 in draft lottery.
Agree with you about Punk to Raw, definately Raw, but disagree with Benoit and Rey to ECW, that would be a stupd move, imo. As for Orton, he's better suited for Raw, not SD, he's already crapped on SD.
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I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
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I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
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Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
superawesomeness Wrote:
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
Yeah tottaly. TNA is gonna take over. I hope Goldberg goes to TNA, I dunno if hes doing anything right now but he'd be perfect for TNA, and I doubt he'd wanna go back to WWE. I know Brock Lesnar is doing something cuz I saw him on TV. TNA is gonna take over. Reason being:
1. TNA is getting all the talented superstars, and odds are Sabu is going back and is taking RVD with him to TNA (hopefully).
2. They have flippen Sting! It doesn't get much better then that.
3. THE STEINER BROTHERS ARE BACK TOGETHER!!!
4. Better more exciting matchs.
5. Not as predictable.
6. No one has been holding the title for years and is beating the odds every night *cough* Cena *cough*
7. MORE EXCITING!
Smackdown! was never that great, and now its just getting stupid. First it was the midgets, then Duece and Domino (pizza HAHA). Then the cruiserweights aren't using their talent, they need to jump off ladders, and go through tables, and do incredible things that we see NON CRUISERWEIGHTS doing every single night on TNA!!!
So in conclusion, my guess is probably sometime soon, TNA will be leading in the ratings, and not WWE.
If TNA keeps getting people from WWE, TNA is gonna end up just like WWE in only a few years. They need NEW talent. They need to go on the streets, find a talented wrestler and ask him/her if they wanna be in TNA.
What WWE is doing is getting new talent, but wasting them by giving them crappy gimmicks AKA Duece and Domino and Cryme Tyme (do they spell it that way?)
RVD and Sabu better be the last thing TNA gets outta the WWE, otherwise, TNA is slowely going to die from it's own careless mistakes. Thank God they arent taking one superstar, giving them endless title shots (Edge), making them endlessly overcome the odds (Cena, Lashley), or giving them dumb story lines.
If TNA stays the way they are they are on the road to big sucess. Soon, they might be able to make a two hour show or even move to different states for a show. TNA rules, WWE is slowely dying.
What WWE is doing is getting new talent, but wasting them by giving them crappy gimmicks AKA Duece and Domino and Cryme Tyme (do they spell it that way?)
RVD and Sabu better be the last thing TNA gets outta the WWE, otherwise, TNA is slowely going to die from it's own careless mistakes. Thank God they arent taking one superstar, giving them endless title shots (Edge), making them endlessly overcome the odds (Cena, Lashley), or giving them dumb story lines.
If TNA stays the way they are they are on the road to big sucess. Soon, they might be able to make a two hour show or even move to different states for a show. TNA rules, WWE is slowely dying.
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Yeah tottaly. TNA is gonna take over. I hope Goldberg goes to TNA, I dunno if hes doing anything right now but he'd be perfect for TNA, and I doubt he'd wanna go back to WWE. I know Brock Lesnar is doing something cuz I saw him on TV. TNA is gonna take over. Reason being:
1. TNA is getting all the talented superstars, and odds are Sabu is going back and is taking RVD with him to TNA (hopefully).
2. They have flippen Sting! It doesn't get much better then that.
3. THE STEINER BROTHERS ARE BACK TOGETHER!!!
4. Better more exciting matchs.
5. Not as predictable.
6. No one has been holding the title for years and is beating the odds every night *cough* Cena *cough*
7. MORE EXCITING!
Smackdown! was never that great, and now its just getting stupid. First it was the midgets, then Duece and Domino (pizza HAHA). Then the cruiserweights aren't using their talent, they need to jump off ladders, and go through tables, and do incredible things that we see NON CRUISERWEIGHTS doing every single night on TNA!!!
So in conclusion, my guess is probably sometime soon, TNA will be leading in the ratings, and not WWE.
Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
superawesomeness Wrote:
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
Yeah tottaly. TNA is gonna take over. I hope Goldberg goes to TNA, I dunno if hes doing anything right now but he'd be perfect for TNA, and I doubt he'd wanna go back to WWE. I know Brock Lesnar is doing something cuz I saw him on TV. TNA is gonna take over. Reason being:
1. TNA is getting all the talented superstars, and odds are Sabu is going back and is taking RVD with him to TNA (hopefully).
2. They have flippen Sting! It doesn't get much better then that.
3. THE STEINER BROTHERS ARE BACK TOGETHER!!!
4. Better more exciting matchs.
5. Not as predictable.
6. No one has been holding the title for years and is beating the odds every night *cough* Cena *cough*
7. MORE EXCITING!
Smackdown! was never that great, and now its just getting stupid. First it was the midgets, then Duece and Domino (pizza HAHA). Then the cruiserweights aren't using their talent, they need to jump off ladders, and go through tables, and do incredible things that we see NON CRUISERWEIGHTS doing every single night on TNA!!!
So in conclusion, my guess is probably sometime soon, TNA will be leading in the ratings, and not WWE.
1. Wrong. RVD apparently has little interest in going to TNA (I read it was that RVD would retire before he went to TNA). Goldberg's old and not talented. The only talented guys TNA has are held down in favour of old guys in their 40's and freaking botch machine Samoa Joe. If any brand's locker room should be upset and leaving, it ought to be TNA's. WWE is pushing young talent; TNA is holding it down.
2. See above... Sting's not great. Granted, he's still pretty much as good as he has ever been, but unfortunately he's never been all that great. He has a good gimmick and character, and that's about it.
3. *yawn* See #1 again. If TNA is the "future" of wrestling, why are they reaching back into the depths of WCW and pulling out anything they can? You mention some of the oldest guys in your defense of TNA and none of their actual talents.
4. Yeah... right. Nearly every Impact match ends with a DQ or interference. It's a one hour show; the matches are far less exciting than what RAW and SD! have put on recently. Even ECW could be considered more entertaining wrestling wise.
5. I'd say all pro wrestling is 80% predictable and always has been.
6. Oh, of course not! There's never been a title hog in TNA! I mean, Jeff Jarret is excused because he's the Chosen One! You damn right! ... -_-
7. I beg to differ. At least with WWE, I don't have to buy their PPVs to see a decent match every once in a while.
And since when does TNA ever let their X-Division stars even show up on Impact? I've watched the show over the last month or so and have yet to see anything remotely high risk or exciting, unless you count Samoa Joe pretending he knows how to wrestle without breaking someone's neck.
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Yeah tottaly. TNA is gonna take over. I hope Goldberg goes to TNA, I dunno if hes doing anything right now but he'd be perfect for TNA, and I doubt he'd wanna go back to WWE. I know Brock Lesnar is doing something cuz I saw him on TV. TNA is gonna take over. Reason being:
1. TNA is getting all the talented superstars, and odds are Sabu is going back and is taking RVD with him to TNA (hopefully).
2. They have flippen Sting! It doesn't get much better then that.
3. THE STEINER BROTHERS ARE BACK TOGETHER!!!
4. Better more exciting matchs.
5. Not as predictable.
6. No one has been holding the title for years and is beating the odds every night *cough* Cena *cough*
7. MORE EXCITING!
Smackdown! was never that great, and now its just getting stupid. First it was the midgets, then Duece and Domino (pizza HAHA). Then the cruiserweights aren't using their talent, they need to jump off ladders, and go through tables, and do incredible things that we see NON CRUISERWEIGHTS doing every single night on TNA!!!
So in conclusion, my guess is probably sometime soon, TNA will be leading in the ratings, and not WWE.
Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
superawesomeness Wrote:
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
Yeah tottaly. TNA is gonna take over. I hope Goldberg goes to TNA, I dunno if hes doing anything right now but he'd be perfect for TNA, and I doubt he'd wanna go back to WWE. I know Brock Lesnar is doing something cuz I saw him on TV. TNA is gonna take over. Reason being:
1. TNA is getting all the talented superstars, and odds are Sabu is going back and is taking RVD with him to TNA (hopefully).
2. They have flippen Sting! It doesn't get much better then that.
3. THE STEINER BROTHERS ARE BACK TOGETHER!!!
4. Better more exciting matchs.
5. Not as predictable.
6. No one has been holding the title for years and is beating the odds every night *cough* Cena *cough*
7. MORE EXCITING!
Smackdown! was never that great, and now its just getting stupid. First it was the midgets, then Duece and Domino (pizza HAHA). Then the cruiserweights aren't using their talent, they need to jump off ladders, and go through tables, and do incredible things that we see NON CRUISERWEIGHTS doing every single night on TNA!!!
So in conclusion, my guess is probably sometime soon, TNA will be leading in the ratings, and not WWE.
1. Uh. All the talented superstars? The only talent I see in TNA is Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, Scott Steiner (all three aren't exactly all that young), Chris Daniels and AJ, and these last two aren't even getting all that good a push. I bet Sting is going to beat Daniels. Ridiculous.
2. Sting hasn't been a major draw since WCW died. He isn't as good as Kurt Angle, hell Jeff Jarret's better than Sting. He's just winning matches, world titles and main eventing, beating the young guys like AJ, Abyss, probably soon Daniels... the only reason you're making a point of this is because you're a sting fanboy- Hey I'm a Scott Steiner fanboy but I can see beyond my own obsessions and understand that he's not a big draw.
3. Yeah the Steiner Brothers are back. Well, at least we know they're going to do the job to the Dudleyz. That's one thing I've been proud of Booty Daddy since his return. He's done nothing but put people over. He put Joe over, Sting over, Christian over, Angle over... unlike some certain old men who keep hogging the main event picture (yeah I mean Sting).
4. The matches aren't better. When they're not X division spot fests, they're incredibly short dq-ending main events that have zero excitement with the exception of the highspots and big moves that they sometimes hit. WWE has better psychology in their matches and has longer (and more) matches aswell.
5. Not as predictable? All they ever fucking do is steal the title belts, end all matches through run ins into DQs or dirty victories, and either a) Sting always fucking wins, or b) Sting never fucking loses cleanly. The only good booking in recent TNA history was Christian retaining the belt for a while, but of course, Sting is the co-master of the Ankle lock so Cage's title reign is over.
6. The title certainly hasn't been hogged recently, but it has infact been greatly damaged by the stupidest possible title reigns. I'm talking about Jarret winning the belt from Christian, then dropping it to Sting, who then dropped it to Abyss via DQ (...fucking christ...), who held the belt for what? two weeks? before losing the title to Christian. Now Kurt's champ! Well, not really, it got stripped from him. Absurd booking. This damages titles more than long title reigns, because it takes away value. You have to beat Cena to become WWE champ. Aparantly, you have to just kind of stick around and get lucky to become TNA champ since the title's always changing hands.
7. I think TNA has the better promo guys and the best talent but it's just not being used. All the young guns are getting depushed, jobbing, or being held back. Alex Shelley? Matt Bentley? Kazarian? Senshi? Austin Starr? All these guys who could be awesome (well maybe except Bentley) just keep getting less and less privelages, since now they cant work other indie shows. That means their money goes down the drain, which means they can either stay fucking poor and work for TNA, getting no push or future prospects, or quit TNA and work the indies and live normal lives again. Great policy, TNA.
Not to mention the fact that TNA consistently loses money while WWE makes money... WWE has worldwide exposure and tours, produces motion pictures, has three primetime shows on Television, two of them twice as long as TNA's sole little thursday night show... Etc, etc, we've had this conversation before and I know we'll have it again, but no matter how many times you clap your hands, TNA isn't going to live as long as WWE.
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1. Uh. All the talented superstars? The only talent I see in TNA is Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, Scott Steiner (all three aren't exactly all that young), Chris Daniels and AJ, and these last two aren't even getting all that good a push. I bet Sting is going to beat Daniels. Ridiculous.
2. Sting hasn't been a major draw since WCW died. He isn't as good as Kurt Angle, hell Jeff Jarret's better than Sting. He's just winning matches, world titles and main eventing, beating the young guys like AJ, Abyss, probably soon Daniels... the only reason you're making a point of this is because you're a sting fanboy- Hey I'm a Scott Steiner fanboy but I can see beyond my own obsessions and understand that he's not a big draw.
3. Yeah the Steiner Brothers are back. Well, at least we know they're going to do the job to the Dudleyz. That's one thing I've been proud of Booty Daddy since his return. He's done nothing but put people over. He put Joe over, Sting over, Christian over, Angle over... unlike some certain old men who keep hogging the main event picture (yeah I mean Sting).
4. The matches aren't better. When they're not X division spot fests, they're incredibly short dq-ending main events that have zero excitement with the exception of the highspots and big moves that they sometimes hit. WWE has better psychology in their matches and has longer (and more) matches aswell.
5. Not as predictable? All they ever fucking do is steal the title belts, end all matches through run ins into DQs or dirty victories, and either a) Sting always fucking wins, or b) Sting never fucking loses cleanly. The only good booking in recent TNA history was Christian retaining the belt for a while, but of course, Sting is the co-master of the Ankle lock so Cage's title reign is over.
6. The title certainly hasn't been hogged recently, but it has infact been greatly damaged by the stupidest possible title reigns. I'm talking about Jarret winning the belt from Christian, then dropping it to Sting, who then dropped it to Abyss via DQ (...fucking christ...), who held the belt for what? two weeks? before losing the title to Christian. Now Kurt's champ! Well, not really, it got stripped from him. Absurd booking. This damages titles more than long title reigns, because it takes away value. You have to beat Cena to become WWE champ. Aparantly, you have to just kind of stick around and get lucky to become TNA champ since the title's always changing hands.
7. I think TNA has the better promo guys and the best talent but it's just not being used. All the young guns are getting depushed, jobbing, or being held back. Alex Shelley? Matt Bentley? Kazarian? Senshi? Austin Starr? All these guys who could be awesome (well maybe except Bentley) just keep getting less and less privelages, since now they cant work other indie shows. That means their money goes down the drain, which means they can either stay fucking poor and work for TNA, getting no push or future prospects, or quit TNA and work the indies and live normal lives again. Great policy, TNA.
Not to mention the fact that TNA consistently loses money while WWE makes money... WWE has worldwide exposure and tours, produces motion pictures, has three primetime shows on Television, two of them twice as long as TNA's sole little thursday night show... Etc, etc, we've had this conversation before and I know we'll have it again, but no matter how many times you clap your hands, TNA isn't going to live as long as WWE.
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Yeah tottaly. TNA is gonna take over. I hope Goldberg goes to TNA, I dunno if hes doing anything right now but he'd be perfect for TNA, and I doubt he'd wanna go back to WWE. I know Brock Lesnar is doing something cuz I saw him on TV. TNA is gonna take over. Reason being:
1. TNA is getting all the talented superstars, and odds are Sabu is going back and is taking RVD with him to TNA (hopefully).
2. They have flippen Sting! It doesn't get much better then that.
3. THE STEINER BROTHERS ARE BACK TOGETHER!!!
4. Better more exciting matchs.
5. Not as predictable.
6. No one has been holding the title for years and is beating the odds every night *cough* Cena *cough*
7. MORE EXCITING!
Smackdown! was never that great, and now its just getting stupid. First it was the midgets, then Duece and Domino (pizza HAHA). Then the cruiserweights aren't using their talent, they need to jump off ladders, and go through tables, and do incredible things that we see NON CRUISERWEIGHTS doing every single night on TNA!!!
So in conclusion, my guess is probably sometime soon, TNA will be leading in the ratings, and not WWE.
Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
superawesomeness Wrote:
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
Yeah tottaly. TNA is gonna take over. I hope Goldberg goes to TNA, I dunno if hes doing anything right now but he'd be perfect for TNA, and I doubt he'd wanna go back to WWE. I know Brock Lesnar is doing something cuz I saw him on TV. TNA is gonna take over. Reason being:
1. TNA is getting all the talented superstars, and odds are Sabu is going back and is taking RVD with him to TNA (hopefully).
2. They have flippen Sting! It doesn't get much better then that.
3. THE STEINER BROTHERS ARE BACK TOGETHER!!!
4. Better more exciting matchs.
5. Not as predictable.
6. No one has been holding the title for years and is beating the odds every night *cough* Cena *cough*
7. MORE EXCITING!
Smackdown! was never that great, and now its just getting stupid. First it was the midgets, then Duece and Domino (pizza HAHA). Then the cruiserweights aren't using their talent, they need to jump off ladders, and go through tables, and do incredible things that we see NON CRUISERWEIGHTS doing every single night on TNA!!!
So in conclusion, my guess is probably sometime soon, TNA will be leading in the ratings, and not WWE.
1. Uh. All the talented superstars? The only talent I see in TNA is Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, Scott Steiner (all three aren't exactly all that young), Chris Daniels and AJ, and these last two aren't even getting all that good a push. I bet Sting is going to beat Daniels. Ridiculous.
2. Sting hasn't been a major draw since WCW died. He isn't as good as Kurt Angle, hell Jeff Jarret's better than Sting. He's just winning matches, world titles and main eventing, beating the young guys like AJ, Abyss, probably soon Daniels... the only reason you're making a point of this is because you're a sting fanboy- Hey I'm a Scott Steiner fanboy but I can see beyond my own obsessions and understand that he's not a big draw.
3. Yeah the Steiner Brothers are back. Well, at least we know they're going to do the job to the Dudleyz. That's one thing I've been proud of Booty Daddy since his return. He's done nothing but put people over. He put Joe over, Sting over, Christian over, Angle over... unlike some certain old men who keep hogging the main event picture (yeah I mean Sting).
4. The matches aren't better. When they're not X division spot fests, they're incredibly short dq-ending main events that have zero excitement with the exception of the highspots and big moves that they sometimes hit. WWE has better psychology in their matches and has longer (and more) matches aswell.
5. Not as predictable? All they ever fucking do is steal the title belts, end all matches through run ins into DQs or dirty victories, and either a) Sting always fucking wins, or b) Sting never fucking loses cleanly. The only good booking in recent TNA history was Christian retaining the belt for a while, but of course, Sting is the co-master of the Ankle lock so Cage's title reign is over.
6. The title certainly hasn't been hogged recently, but it has infact been greatly damaged by the stupidest possible title reigns. I'm talking about Jarret winning the belt from Christian, then dropping it to Sting, who then dropped it to Abyss via DQ (...fucking christ...), who held the belt for what? two weeks? before losing the title to Christian. Now Kurt's champ! Well, not really, it got stripped from him. Absurd booking. This damages titles more than long title reigns, because it takes away value. You have to beat Cena to become WWE champ. Aparantly, you have to just kind of stick around and get lucky to become TNA champ since the title's always changing hands.
7. I think TNA has the better promo guys and the best talent but it's just not being used. All the young guns are getting depushed, jobbing, or being held back. Alex Shelley? Matt Bentley? Kazarian? Senshi? Austin Starr? All these guys who could be awesome (well maybe except Bentley) just keep getting less and less privelages, since now they cant work other indie shows. That means their money goes down the drain, which means they can either stay fucking poor and work for TNA, getting no push or future prospects, or quit TNA and work the indies and live normal lives again. Great policy, TNA.
Not to mention the fact that TNA consistently loses money while WWE makes money... WWE has worldwide exposure and tours, produces motion pictures, has three primetime shows on Television, two of them twice as long as TNA's sole little thursday night show... Etc, etc, we've had this conversation before and I know we'll have it again, but no matter how many times you clap your hands, TNA isn't going to live as long as WWE.
what the hell are u people talking about
everything you guys are talking about is so wrong
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Zentile Wrote:
1. Uh. All the talented superstars? The only talent I see in TNA is Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, Scott Steiner (all three aren't exactly all that young), Chris Daniels and AJ, and these last two aren't even getting all that good a push. I bet Sting is going to beat Daniels. Ridiculous.
2. Sting hasn't been a major draw since WCW died. He isn't as good as Kurt Angle, hell Jeff Jarret's better than Sting. He's just winning matches, world titles and main eventing, beating the young guys like AJ, Abyss, probably soon Daniels... the only reason you're making a point of this is because you're a sting fanboy- Hey I'm a Scott Steiner fanboy but I can see beyond my own obsessions and understand that he's not a big draw.
3. Yeah the Steiner Brothers are back. Well, at least we know they're going to do the job to the Dudleyz. That's one thing I've been proud of Booty Daddy since his return. He's done nothing but put people over. He put Joe over, Sting over, Christian over, Angle over... unlike some certain old men who keep hogging the main event picture (yeah I mean Sting).
4. The matches aren't better. When they're not X division spot fests, they're incredibly short dq-ending main events that have zero excitement with the exception of the highspots and big moves that they sometimes hit. WWE has better psychology in their matches and has longer (and more) matches aswell.
5. Not as predictable? All they ever fucking do is steal the title belts, end all matches through run ins into DQs or dirty victories, and either a) Sting always fucking wins, or b) Sting never fucking loses cleanly. The only good booking in recent TNA history was Christian retaining the belt for a while, but of course, Sting is the co-master of the Ankle lock so Cage's title reign is over.
6. The title certainly hasn't been hogged recently, but it has infact been greatly damaged by the stupidest possible title reigns. I'm talking about Jarret winning the belt from Christian, then dropping it to Sting, who then dropped it to Abyss via DQ (...fucking christ...), who held the belt for what? two weeks? before losing the title to Christian. Now Kurt's champ! Well, not really, it got stripped from him. Absurd booking. This damages titles more than long title reigns, because it takes away value. You have to beat Cena to become WWE champ. Aparantly, you have to just kind of stick around and get lucky to become TNA champ since the title's always changing hands.
7. I think TNA has the better promo guys and the best talent but it's just not being used. All the young guns are getting depushed, jobbing, or being held back. Alex Shelley? Matt Bentley? Kazarian? Senshi? Austin Starr? All these guys who could be awesome (well maybe except Bentley) just keep getting less and less privelages, since now they cant work other indie shows. That means their money goes down the drain, which means they can either stay fucking poor and work for TNA, getting no push or future prospects, or quit TNA and work the indies and live normal lives again. Great policy, TNA.
Not to mention the fact that TNA consistently loses money while WWE makes money... WWE has worldwide exposure and tours, produces motion pictures, has three primetime shows on Television, two of them twice as long as TNA's sole little thursday night show... Etc, etc, we've had this conversation before and I know we'll have it again, but no matter how many times you clap your hands, TNA isn't going to live as long as WWE.
superawesomeness Wrote:
Yeah tottaly. TNA is gonna take over. I hope Goldberg goes to TNA, I dunno if hes doing anything right now but he'd be perfect for TNA, and I doubt he'd wanna go back to WWE. I know Brock Lesnar is doing something cuz I saw him on TV. TNA is gonna take over. Reason being:
1. TNA is getting all the talented superstars, and odds are Sabu is going back and is taking RVD with him to TNA (hopefully).
2. They have flippen Sting! It doesn't get much better then that.
3. THE STEINER BROTHERS ARE BACK TOGETHER!!!
4. Better more exciting matchs.
5. Not as predictable.
6. No one has been holding the title for years and is beating the odds every night *cough* Cena *cough*
7. MORE EXCITING!
Smackdown! was never that great, and now its just getting stupid. First it was the midgets, then Duece and Domino (pizza HAHA). Then the cruiserweights aren't using their talent, they need to jump off ladders, and go through tables, and do incredible things that we see NON CRUISERWEIGHTS doing every single night on TNA!!!
So in conclusion, my guess is probably sometime soon, TNA will be leading in the ratings, and not WWE.
Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
superawesomeness Wrote:
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
Yeah tottaly. TNA is gonna take over. I hope Goldberg goes to TNA, I dunno if hes doing anything right now but he'd be perfect for TNA, and I doubt he'd wanna go back to WWE. I know Brock Lesnar is doing something cuz I saw him on TV. TNA is gonna take over. Reason being:
1. TNA is getting all the talented superstars, and odds are Sabu is going back and is taking RVD with him to TNA (hopefully).
2. They have flippen Sting! It doesn't get much better then that.
3. THE STEINER BROTHERS ARE BACK TOGETHER!!!
4. Better more exciting matchs.
5. Not as predictable.
6. No one has been holding the title for years and is beating the odds every night *cough* Cena *cough*
7. MORE EXCITING!
Smackdown! was never that great, and now its just getting stupid. First it was the midgets, then Duece and Domino (pizza HAHA). Then the cruiserweights aren't using their talent, they need to jump off ladders, and go through tables, and do incredible things that we see NON CRUISERWEIGHTS doing every single night on TNA!!!
So in conclusion, my guess is probably sometime soon, TNA will be leading in the ratings, and not WWE.
1. Uh. All the talented superstars? The only talent I see in TNA is Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, Scott Steiner (all three aren't exactly all that young), Chris Daniels and AJ, and these last two aren't even getting all that good a push. I bet Sting is going to beat Daniels. Ridiculous.
2. Sting hasn't been a major draw since WCW died. He isn't as good as Kurt Angle, hell Jeff Jarret's better than Sting. He's just winning matches, world titles and main eventing, beating the young guys like AJ, Abyss, probably soon Daniels... the only reason you're making a point of this is because you're a sting fanboy- Hey I'm a Scott Steiner fanboy but I can see beyond my own obsessions and understand that he's not a big draw.
3. Yeah the Steiner Brothers are back. Well, at least we know they're going to do the job to the Dudleyz. That's one thing I've been proud of Booty Daddy since his return. He's done nothing but put people over. He put Joe over, Sting over, Christian over, Angle over... unlike some certain old men who keep hogging the main event picture (yeah I mean Sting).
4. The matches aren't better. When they're not X division spot fests, they're incredibly short dq-ending main events that have zero excitement with the exception of the highspots and big moves that they sometimes hit. WWE has better psychology in their matches and has longer (and more) matches aswell.
5. Not as predictable? All they ever fucking do is steal the title belts, end all matches through run ins into DQs or dirty victories, and either a) Sting always fucking wins, or b) Sting never fucking loses cleanly. The only good booking in recent TNA history was Christian retaining the belt for a while, but of course, Sting is the co-master of the Ankle lock so Cage's title reign is over.
6. The title certainly hasn't been hogged recently, but it has infact been greatly damaged by the stupidest possible title reigns. I'm talking about Jarret winning the belt from Christian, then dropping it to Sting, who then dropped it to Abyss via DQ (...fucking christ...), who held the belt for what? two weeks? before losing the title to Christian. Now Kurt's champ! Well, not really, it got stripped from him. Absurd booking. This damages titles more than long title reigns, because it takes away value. You have to beat Cena to become WWE champ. Aparantly, you have to just kind of stick around and get lucky to become TNA champ since the title's always changing hands.
7. I think TNA has the better promo guys and the best talent but it's just not being used. All the young guns are getting depushed, jobbing, or being held back. Alex Shelley? Matt Bentley? Kazarian? Senshi? Austin Starr? All these guys who could be awesome (well maybe except Bentley) just keep getting less and less privelages, since now they cant work other indie shows. That means their money goes down the drain, which means they can either stay fucking poor and work for TNA, getting no push or future prospects, or quit TNA and work the indies and live normal lives again. Great policy, TNA.
Not to mention the fact that TNA consistently loses money while WWE makes money... WWE has worldwide exposure and tours, produces motion pictures, has three primetime shows on Television, two of them twice as long as TNA's sole little thursday night show... Etc, etc, we've had this conversation before and I know we'll have it again, but no matter how many times you clap your hands, TNA isn't going to live as long as WWE.
Yeah well I didn't know all that crap cuz I don't go on google all the time searching for news.
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superawesomeness Wrote:
Yeah well I didn't know all that crap cuz I don't go on google all the time searching for news.
Zentile Wrote:
1. Uh. All the talented superstars? The only talent I see in TNA is Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, Scott Steiner (all three aren't exactly all that young), Chris Daniels and AJ, and these last two aren't even getting all that good a push. I bet Sting is going to beat Daniels. Ridiculous.
2. Sting hasn't been a major draw since WCW died. He isn't as good as Kurt Angle, hell Jeff Jarret's better than Sting. He's just winning matches, world titles and main eventing, beating the young guys like AJ, Abyss, probably soon Daniels... the only reason you're making a point of this is because you're a sting fanboy- Hey I'm a Scott Steiner fanboy but I can see beyond my own obsessions and understand that he's not a big draw.
3. Yeah the Steiner Brothers are back. Well, at least we know they're going to do the job to the Dudleyz. That's one thing I've been proud of Booty Daddy since his return. He's done nothing but put people over. He put Joe over, Sting over, Christian over, Angle over... unlike some certain old men who keep hogging the main event picture (yeah I mean Sting).
4. The matches aren't better. When they're not X division spot fests, they're incredibly short dq-ending main events that have zero excitement with the exception of the highspots and big moves that they sometimes hit. WWE has better psychology in their matches and has longer (and more) matches aswell.
5. Not as predictable? All they ever fucking do is steal the title belts, end all matches through run ins into DQs or dirty victories, and either a) Sting always fucking wins, or b) Sting never fucking loses cleanly. The only good booking in recent TNA history was Christian retaining the belt for a while, but of course, Sting is the co-master of the Ankle lock so Cage's title reign is over.
6. The title certainly hasn't been hogged recently, but it has infact been greatly damaged by the stupidest possible title reigns. I'm talking about Jarret winning the belt from Christian, then dropping it to Sting, who then dropped it to Abyss via DQ (...fucking christ...), who held the belt for what? two weeks? before losing the title to Christian. Now Kurt's champ! Well, not really, it got stripped from him. Absurd booking. This damages titles more than long title reigns, because it takes away value. You have to beat Cena to become WWE champ. Aparantly, you have to just kind of stick around and get lucky to become TNA champ since the title's always changing hands.
7. I think TNA has the better promo guys and the best talent but it's just not being used. All the young guns are getting depushed, jobbing, or being held back. Alex Shelley? Matt Bentley? Kazarian? Senshi? Austin Starr? All these guys who could be awesome (well maybe except Bentley) just keep getting less and less privelages, since now they cant work other indie shows. That means their money goes down the drain, which means they can either stay fucking poor and work for TNA, getting no push or future prospects, or quit TNA and work the indies and live normal lives again. Great policy, TNA.
Not to mention the fact that TNA consistently loses money while WWE makes money... WWE has worldwide exposure and tours, produces motion pictures, has three primetime shows on Television, two of them twice as long as TNA's sole little thursday night show... Etc, etc, we've had this conversation before and I know we'll have it again, but no matter how many times you clap your hands, TNA isn't going to live as long as WWE.
superawesomeness Wrote:
Yeah tottaly. TNA is gonna take over. I hope Goldberg goes to TNA, I dunno if hes doing anything right now but he'd be perfect for TNA, and I doubt he'd wanna go back to WWE. I know Brock Lesnar is doing something cuz I saw him on TV. TNA is gonna take over. Reason being:
1. TNA is getting all the talented superstars, and odds are Sabu is going back and is taking RVD with him to TNA (hopefully).
2. They have flippen Sting! It doesn't get much better then that.
3. THE STEINER BROTHERS ARE BACK TOGETHER!!!
4. Better more exciting matchs.
5. Not as predictable.
6. No one has been holding the title for years and is beating the odds every night *cough* Cena *cough*
7. MORE EXCITING!
Smackdown! was never that great, and now its just getting stupid. First it was the midgets, then Duece and Domino (pizza HAHA). Then the cruiserweights aren't using their talent, they need to jump off ladders, and go through tables, and do incredible things that we see NON CRUISERWEIGHTS doing every single night on TNA!!!
So in conclusion, my guess is probably sometime soon, TNA will be leading in the ratings, and not WWE.
Sub-Frost055 Wrote:
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
superawesomeness Wrote:
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
I hope the draft is good, and hopefully Kane goes back to RAW.
same here
i want edge to return too... i hate smackdown. as long as cena goes there i will be EXTREMELY happy. i'm tired of him and his endless winng streaks. either they need to finally make him lose to someone or put him on another show)
but you know, no matter what they're trying to do, it's not going to be exciting until you get the big stars return.
rvd's career is over, i can just see it coming. you have too many originals gone and rvd is next. this fucking sucks!
Yeah tottaly. TNA is gonna take over. I hope Goldberg goes to TNA, I dunno if hes doing anything right now but he'd be perfect for TNA, and I doubt he'd wanna go back to WWE. I know Brock Lesnar is doing something cuz I saw him on TV. TNA is gonna take over. Reason being:
1. TNA is getting all the talented superstars, and odds are Sabu is going back and is taking RVD with him to TNA (hopefully).
2. They have flippen Sting! It doesn't get much better then that.
3. THE STEINER BROTHERS ARE BACK TOGETHER!!!
4. Better more exciting matchs.
5. Not as predictable.
6. No one has been holding the title for years and is beating the odds every night *cough* Cena *cough*
7. MORE EXCITING!
Smackdown! was never that great, and now its just getting stupid. First it was the midgets, then Duece and Domino (pizza HAHA). Then the cruiserweights aren't using their talent, they need to jump off ladders, and go through tables, and do incredible things that we see NON CRUISERWEIGHTS doing every single night on TNA!!!
So in conclusion, my guess is probably sometime soon, TNA will be leading in the ratings, and not WWE.
1. Uh. All the talented superstars? The only talent I see in TNA is Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, Scott Steiner (all three aren't exactly all that young), Chris Daniels and AJ, and these last two aren't even getting all that good a push. I bet Sting is going to beat Daniels. Ridiculous.
2. Sting hasn't been a major draw since WCW died. He isn't as good as Kurt Angle, hell Jeff Jarret's better than Sting. He's just winning matches, world titles and main eventing, beating the young guys like AJ, Abyss, probably soon Daniels... the only reason you're making a point of this is because you're a sting fanboy- Hey I'm a Scott Steiner fanboy but I can see beyond my own obsessions and understand that he's not a big draw.
3. Yeah the Steiner Brothers are back. Well, at least we know they're going to do the job to the Dudleyz. That's one thing I've been proud of Booty Daddy since his return. He's done nothing but put people over. He put Joe over, Sting over, Christian over, Angle over... unlike some certain old men who keep hogging the main event picture (yeah I mean Sting).
4. The matches aren't better. When they're not X division spot fests, they're incredibly short dq-ending main events that have zero excitement with the exception of the highspots and big moves that they sometimes hit. WWE has better psychology in their matches and has longer (and more) matches aswell.
5. Not as predictable? All they ever fucking do is steal the title belts, end all matches through run ins into DQs or dirty victories, and either a) Sting always fucking wins, or b) Sting never fucking loses cleanly. The only good booking in recent TNA history was Christian retaining the belt for a while, but of course, Sting is the co-master of the Ankle lock so Cage's title reign is over.
6. The title certainly hasn't been hogged recently, but it has infact been greatly damaged by the stupidest possible title reigns. I'm talking about Jarret winning the belt from Christian, then dropping it to Sting, who then dropped it to Abyss via DQ (...fucking christ...), who held the belt for what? two weeks? before losing the title to Christian. Now Kurt's champ! Well, not really, it got stripped from him. Absurd booking. This damages titles more than long title reigns, because it takes away value. You have to beat Cena to become WWE champ. Aparantly, you have to just kind of stick around and get lucky to become TNA champ since the title's always changing hands.
7. I think TNA has the better promo guys and the best talent but it's just not being used. All the young guns are getting depushed, jobbing, or being held back. Alex Shelley? Matt Bentley? Kazarian? Senshi? Austin Starr? All these guys who could be awesome (well maybe except Bentley) just keep getting less and less privelages, since now they cant work other indie shows. That means their money goes down the drain, which means they can either stay fucking poor and work for TNA, getting no push or future prospects, or quit TNA and work the indies and live normal lives again. Great policy, TNA.
Not to mention the fact that TNA consistently loses money while WWE makes money... WWE has worldwide exposure and tours, produces motion pictures, has three primetime shows on Television, two of them twice as long as TNA's sole little thursday night show... Etc, etc, we've had this conversation before and I know we'll have it again, but no matter how many times you clap your hands, TNA isn't going to live as long as WWE.
Yeah well I didn't know all that crap cuz I don't go on google all the time searching for news.
But you know... WWE rules
I just go onto WWE.com and read all these things, i don't know for a fact that RVD may leave, but couple ppl here in Chicago who i watch it with google things. and they believe that RVD will leave after One Night Stand. But I'm just gonna say it it's just that they're getting too old. Not that this may be a problem and you're saying, Ric Flair is somewhere in his late 60's early 70's and he's still wrestling. Man, have you not noticed that his matches are either, getting punched a few times slam here a slam there and someone comes out to save him or he just can't do anything in the match and just have him do a few interesting moves here. But it's just that i think they're all getting too old. old... but not shawn. hell no. or the undertaker.
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he's is not leaving cause he is getting to old
and wwe is in no way better than tna
the only reasons wwe is doing better right now is because it's been out there longer and that they have more money and that's it
it can't be that matches cause wwe matches suck
and the buyrates are going down also tna is improving while wwe is losing it's audience
and wwe is in no way better than tna
the only reasons wwe is doing better right now is because it's been out there longer and that they have more money and that's it
it can't be that matches cause wwe matches suck
and the buyrates are going down also tna is improving while wwe is losing it's audience
JUST BURY FLAIR! He should've retired since he was in WCW, he looks flabby and doesn't do anything that is interesting, neither does
Shawn Micheals might not be too old, but dude can't wrestle anymore, what he does now is mostly kick out often and bleed. HE CAN'T EVEN LIFT HIS LEG UP! When he does "Sweet Chin Music", his leg don't go far up and his pose where he would extent his leg to the side... he can't go down no more. He's passed his prime because of too many lesions... let him go...
Shawn Micheals might not be too old, but dude can't wrestle anymore, what he does now is mostly kick out often and bleed. HE CAN'T EVEN LIFT HIS LEG UP! When he does "Sweet Chin Music", his leg don't go far up and his pose where he would extent his leg to the side... he can't go down no more. He's passed his prime because of too many lesions... let him go...
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I have an idea if Undertaker wasn't injured and Edge didn't lose the money in the bank Edge had a wrestlemania undefeated streak as does undertaker Edge could have cashed in a money in the bank oppurtunity vs Undertaker and it could be streak vs streak at wrestlemania.
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