You're right about Trips being in creative control and that's the problem with him on Raw. As for JBL, yeah he got the title and doesn't get it taken away and that's the problem with SD. Both shows have guys that deserve to be World Champ about as much as Vince McMahon did when he gave himself the title.

JBL doesn't work well as a singles star, sure he provides comic relief on SD, but then he can't be expected to be taken seriouslly as a champ, cause he's nothing but a walking joke. Whenever I watch one of his matches, it's plain as the nose on my face that hos opponents have to carry the match and make him look good, at the added expense of themselves looking bad. Taker should have won the fucking title, but instead put JBL over, and I know for a fact that it was Taker who was carrying the entire match, then got screwed out of the win and was made to look like a loser to JBL, and I think that's not right. Same goes for when JBL fought Guererro, he's the better wrestler, but was forced to make Bradshaw look good and try to make everyone believe that he should be champ. Everyone whom JBL has beaten up to this point with the exception of Booker T, all deserve to be the champ more than JBL cause they're the better entertainers, and when each was a champ, they drew and still draw more money than JBL. But Vince seems to love the guy and we get him shoved down are throats every week.

Triple H is the same way on Raw, but at least he's not as big a joke as JBL is. I ain't saying I like Triple H though. Everyone he steps into the ring with have to make him look good and make themselves look like jobbers basically, otherwise he and Steph (SLUT) will run to Vince and whine and complain about it. I've read countless things written about Triple H that all say the same thing, even if he claims that he "earned" his current spot on the roster, there are things that point to the contrary. Like his relationship with Steph, if they brook up tomorrow, you can guarendamtee that he'd be bumped back to the midcard faster than you can say Jean Paul Levesque! In the past, if there was a match where he had to put someone like RVD for example, over, he'd go whine to Steph who would talk to Vince, and get the ending changed to him squashing RVD in record time.

JBL is the walking joke champ of SD, and Triple H is the biggest fuck up of wrestling and neither of them deserve to be champion, period!

To answer your question about Todd, he's been doing WWE Sunday Night Heat with Ivory I think as well as WWE Experience. So I think he's still around. I watch neither show so I couldn't say, and I think he's been used as a backstage interviewer some also.

It's kind of off topic, but does anyone enjoy watching The Ultimate Fighter after Raw? The first couple of episodes I just blew off and didn't watch because I'm an avid hater of reality TV. But , now I can't stop watching TUF, lol. I hope Chris kicks the shit out of Josh. I didn't like Bobby from the moment I saw his mug, too. Besides, Chris lives just across the river from me; one of the local boys, lol. GO CHRIS GO!!

yea i seen that ufc show for the first time monday, cant wait for the fight

Nope, I've not seen it yet, but I might watch it just to see if i like it.

I've just been at prowrestling.com where I found news on the abuse Amy Weber recieved:

"Amy Weber is not going to return to Raw at this point. She recently quit WWE for what was thought of just to be some ribbing of her about a strip club flyer that she had appeared on. It turns out, there was more to the story, as Weber suffered an injury earlier in the week while practicing for a match. She was in much pain on the way home, so she asked for a trainer to assist her. Two wrestlers approached her and made fun of her for needing assistance, after all they have to go through to get to where they were. Then she decided to spread out and lay down over an entire row of seats which was no big deal because there was plenty of room on the plane, but when she did, two wrestlers poured a liquid substance on her. This physical abuse apparently is what really upset Weber. As reported earlier, JBL, was one of the wrestler's who was ribbing Weber about the stripclub flyer, but has since apoligized to her about the incident. After reaching Alaska, Weber bought her own ticket for the rest of the way home, because she was so upset about the flight from Japan"

Some of you should know that I am far from being a fan of the WWE divas but this kind of stuff really is uncalled for.

It seems to me that JBL is a bully...I read Edges Biography and JBL bullied him as well when he first started out.

Look at this peice of rumor I found...

Vignettes are already in production right now for Randy Orton vs. The Undertaker for WrestleMania 21.

Looks like Taker/Kane Vs Snitsky/Heidy might be getting scrapped from WM. it wouldn't make any sence thought sence they planted to seed at the Royal Rumble.

as for the rumored match, I'am sure it would be a pretty good match if Taker can carry the match right. IF the WWE is even THINKING of having Orton end Taker's winning streak though, I'am gonna build up alot of hatred towards the WWE for this.

Just imagine the crowd heat a Taker VS Randy Orton match would get at WrestleMania... It would be best than Taker & Kane vs Snitksy & Heidencrap IMO but anyway Taker has to win, obviously. There's no way Orton can end his winning streak.

Orton V Taker.
Weak.

It'll get a lot of heat but damn, that's going to be one boring, rest hold filled, peice of shit match. Can you imagine how ridiculous it's going to look when Taker has to try and sell those pathetic 'punches' of Ortons? Haha.

There had better be some gimmick involved. Lord knows all Orton is good for is being thrown in tacks.

I think Orton Vs Taker would be a good match to see but I would like to see the Taker/Kane Vs Snitsky/Heidenreich aswell....maybe they'll do that later on.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I don't even see the point in this match... why would Orton even wanna take on the Undertaker? Maybe to kill another legend... either way I don't know why there is so much hate for Orton...he's got good skills.

Here's my theory... you were watching RAW one night... and your girlfriend happend to catch a peek of Orton. She says wow he's hot... now your pissed and don't like him. GG

Haha.

I personally don't like him because he's just so average. I generally only tend to like wrestlers that use moves not commonly seen, or do things that take me by surprise. Either that, or standard moves executed really well, with a side of charisma. On top of that, they have to be believable. That's pretty much my formulae for an entertaining wrestler.

Orton doesn't really fit in anywhere there. He uses basic jabs and rear chin locks, coupled with elbow drops or snap mares and the like. Standard fare. On top of this, he uses only two other slightly interesting moves. A top rope cross body, which is cool, if a little overused, and that sick backbreaker move. The only reason I watch his matches is to see that move. It's fairly unique, and no matter how sloppy he does it, it generally always looks good. It should have been his finisher in my opinion, instead of that shitty RKO.

Which brings me to my next point. His moves look sloppy or downright stupid. Aside from his terrible RKO execution, which he seems to "miss" half the time, his jabs look ridiculous, and most everything else he does looks just like he isn't trying, or is trying too hard... In fact, he should watch himself, he might hurt himself one day with that sort of sloppiness.

Speaking of trying too hard, he sucks at selling moves. He often oversells basic moves, and that stupid overly fake look on his face he gets when he's does his "i'm spent" bit is lame.

I don't really find him to be that charismatic either. Yeah, he can yell and scream like an idiot when he's in the ring, which anybody can do - but he is still bad at, and he can raise his hand in the air before his finisher, and raise his arms in a crooked manner. Cool. Is that it? Yeah, he has quite good mic skills, but in the ring, he just doesn't do anything to capture the crowd. He just doesn't have that X factor that makes me want to watch him.

All in all, watching Orton feels pretty much the same as watching Maven to me, which is where he should be, fighting Maven. He shouldn't be anywhere near that belt.

In fact Shelton and Orton should switch places as far as their status on the card is concerned.

Man more hate, Orton isn't my favorite wrestler but he is still good anyway. Granted his finishing move is nothing special. I do like how he started to tap the guys on the head on the way down like someone doing a DDT. Other then that it looks like a jumping neckbreaker. Anyway, with that aside he has a great standing drop kick, he has that cool uppercut that he does quite a bit. Also like you mentioned he has that neat inverted backbreaker and a nice crossbody. I've also seen him do a nice DDT off the top turnbuckle. I also kinda like when he puts a guy in a headlock and clubs him to death with his forearm. All in all I find him entertaining to watch, comparing him to Maven is harsh. The WWE hasn'€™t ever done anything with Maven. I've never even seen the guys finishing move. If he even has one. I've never noticed him having trouble selling moves, he seems fine at it to me. Just as good as anyone else I see. I find that he has a lot of charisma, and I almost always enjoy his matches. I do agree with you that Shelton is a more talented wrestler…he has pro skills, he could be the next Kurt Angle is the WWE gave him another push like they did late last year when he beat Triple H twice. I don't think I would mind him staying ICC for a bit the only problem is they aren't doing anything with him there... he just fights random people for no real reason. WWE needs to do something with him asap.

Whatever; Orton has that realy slick looking sit-down kneck wrench. I feint everytime I see that, it's just so good, just amazing.

I read about the Orton/Taker angle a day or so ago...I'm just, bleh, about the situation. If I'm not mistaken Ort is going to be turning; so, what, he's going to be a heel, but only because he can't think straight o_0?

And that situation with JBL and webber, if indeed legit, is just another reason why I really can't stand that guy. He probably said something like "What? My actions? I'm a wrestler, that's what I do! I'm a heel! You just now figured that out?!" I really do feel bad for Amy, though. That's bullshit.

Anyone know wtf is up with Ultimo and Zack Gowen? Meh.

Well, I guess Orton does have a nice standing dropkick, but, whatever, I still don't think he's much special. To each his own. I guess not every young uppercard wreslter is going to be Rocky Miavia.

By the way, i'm not entirely sure, but I think Mavens finisher is a top rope bulldog.



Dunno how old the rumour is, but I heard something about Ultimo returning unmasked... Anybody know anything about that?

WWE dropped Gowan waaaay back, around the same time they dropped Spanky (Brain Kendrik) who now wrestles in Japan. I guess they just weren't feelin' his one-legged gimmick. However, Ultimo on the other hand, I have no clue. How about Lance Storm & Test?

Test is gone... he was taking to long to heal
Lance Storm I think is running some kinda wrestling school.

Happy to see the IE problems fixed!I've been away for a week and I've been hearing Vince is in a Wheel chair.What happened?

Yeah, I knew gowen left, which is too bad. I think WWE let him go because of his attitude, more than anything. I was reading a lot of stuff concerning how he "needed to grow up" or something. Though, WWE certainly left the door open for him to come back. I actually enjoyed watching Gowen wrestle. Hope he gets his shit togeher. And Ultimo was rummored to be coming back unmasked like months ago, so I'm kind of like wtf, where is he, lol.

SD in 20 minutes, WOOT! Batista's going to crush some faces!!

Ultimo is Akio Nah, just kidding.

SD! needs to have Ultimo Back, but seriously the mask is so cool. What about his entrance to WWE last time. Fantastic. I would love to see him back better than ever and with a good storyline. I thought the Tokyo, Japan SD that he would come back.

A little history, Dragon originally wrestled without a mask and he wasn't well percieved, however telling only a few people he put on the mask and donned the new persona as the ultimo dragon and his popularity skyrockted. Consequently in the Japanese wrestling rankings (an actual listing in those days) he was ranked once as Yoshihiro Asai and then much higher as Ultimate Dragon.

I'm just waiting for the day Goldberg makes a return.

Batista kicked ass on SD! tonight, Seriously, he came in with a fucking nice convertible, dressed up in his pimp suit, casually walked in, turned back, and with a style only Batista can offer destroyed JBL's limo, he even paused to fix his neck tie a little there. than the stair down with Big Show. Dave is the Man!

God Damn you WWE for sending those no-name bimbos out DURING THE DAMN CRUISERWEIGHT MATCH. what the fuck was the point of that? to shill a useless piss-break segment at No Way Out no one gives a shit for? that was absolute disrespect towards the real workers in the ring with actual talent trying to actually entertain the crowd.

LOL!! Yeah, those divas durring the cruiser match really pissed me off, too. I was like wtf!?! Seriously, if I want porn - and I usually do - I walk a few feet out of the living room and jump on the PC. I'm sure the majority of WWE fans can do the same . Meh, all in all it was a pretty decent match, though, not quite up to the standard of London and Akio the past few velocities - yes, I watch velocity. Infact, SD was pretty damn good tonight; I enjoyed it. All the matches were solid enough and Cena/Book was a nice TV bout.

The Cena promo with Kurt was great, too. What's funny is that I totally remember Cena's first match with Angle, including the slap, lol. The slap is what made me a Cena fan in the first place . Damn, those green shorts, too good.

I must say, I can't get over how GREAT Batista looks in a suite. Seriously hardcore and wax. I'm not being ghey, I just wish I looked that good in a suite, haha. The whole Batista segment was good, as well. He's just so damn subtle with everything he does; looking through the broken window with that smirk and fixing his tie, lol.

Oh, I guess Kazarian from TNA left on his own terms. I guess he wasn't even wrestling under a contract, heh. Is he WWE bound? WEEEEEEEE!!!...."cough" anothergreatwrestlernowjobber "cough"

Edit:The real SD that went down tonight

I remember Cena's very first match with Angle. I remember it being a really good match to. Cena's first two words... RUTHLESS AGRESSION! heh. Man, Cena sure changed alot sence than. he was just an average, generic wrestler no one poped for, wearing neon generic wrestling gear with crappy music. now hes totally oppisite. most popular wrestler in the WWE, current US Champion, and is going to Main-Event WrestleMania. who'da thunk.