Randy Orton is one of the best and that's why HE is selected in the elimination chamber match

Yeah, what ever. I guess you're an Orton fanboy. I do think he does wrestle pretty decent but like TheDarkPrince Orton's cockyness and arogance is what gets him in trouble and are his greatest weaknesses.

I thought this year's Smackdown from Iraq was pretty decent. The main-event tag match was good, and what other matches I did see (I missed the first half-hour) were good, but it wasn't as good as last year's show. I liked how the location had meaning again, "Camp Speigher" named after a recentlly fallen soldier, that was good, the troops were pretty into it, chearing for faces, booing heels, sometimes cheering both faces and heels (like last year) just cause they were damn happy the WWE was there. I say, here's to WWE in Iraq 3, in 2005!!

TheMkGeek I am not really a Randy Orton fan, I just think he will win this match.........


anyways who won the match between Heidenreich and The Undertaker?!?

Taker won by count out.I'm not a big fan of JBL as well but he did steal the show with his promo.

I am looking forward to see the match of Kane and Gene................

I don't see how Orton doesn't have any weaknesses. Besides the already mentioned cockiness, he can't wrestle for shit either, unless you count headlocks as wrestling.
I mean, if you go just by physical features, then Edge, Jericho and Benoit have no weaknesses either.

No more TNA for me...

My Grandfather cut off the cable yesterday afternoon.All because that dumb Comcast company is raising cable prices.40 bucks for Basic Cable!!!I hope he'll get a Satelite dish soon.I know I can look up the results on the PC but I have to see it.I can read the WWE results because most of the matches are boring.I hate Comcast I always did.Ever since they came to Springfield last year there has been nothing but crap from them.

-They cut off some good stations

-The lineup of channels they have sucks

-They cut off CBS@11pm news on BOTH CBS channels

-You need to order the box in order to see G4TV/Sounds easy right...BUT THE BOX COSTS 120 DOLLARS a month here.

-They knocked out the cable for a week due to an error they did while working outside.
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On a lighter note.I start my 1st job on Monday!!!Im doing carpet work with my uncle.

Well, first off, let me say congrats on your new job! I'm jealous! At 21 years of age, I'm still unemployed!

Second, sorry to hear about your cable problems. Cable companies can be pricks. Hopefully you can talk your Grandpa into getting satelite. Do you live your Grandpa?

One will come your way soon

I don't live with my Grandparents im there during the day because my dad works.Im at my dad's house by night(now).

I caught Afterburn last night and wow.WWE in Iraq was awesome it reminds me of the Federation Era.I think thats the only good show the WWE does.Too bad the WWE can't put on a show like that all time.Im for the WWE going to Iraq in 05.But next time...have more vids with Vince wearing a Bullet Proof vest.It's priceless.

One will come your way soon

I don't live with my Grandparents im there during the day because my dad works.Im at my dad's house by night(now).

I caught Afterburn last night and wow.WWE in Iraq was awesome it reminds me of the Federation Era.I think thats the only good show the WWE does.Too bad the WWE can't put on a show like that all time.Im for the WWE going to Iraq in 05.But next time...have more vids with Vince wearing a Bullet Proof vest.It's priceless.

Im hiring mods for AH too.Let me know if your up for the job.

Here is a Christmas present too:

21 Questions about WM21 with John Tobias

Thanks for the great WM21 article!


Here is the Official Raw Preview:

General Manager Eric Bischoff will make another huge announcement tonight on RAW, which airs with New Year's Revolution looming close. During the last live RAW, Bischoff returned from a month-long vacation to find the World Heavyweight Championship vacated. Bischoff promptly shocked those involved in the controversy by declaring that the title would be won in the Elimination Chamber during the pay-per-view Jan. 9. What will the GM's latest news mean for Triple H, Batista, Edge, Randy Orton, Chris Jericho and Chris Benoit?

Also, Gene Snitsky was stopped by a wall of flame while in pursuit of Lita. Does this mean we'll see the monster Kane on RAW tonight?

Newcomers Muhammad Hassan and Khosrow Daivari recently had words with Mick Foley. Will they back up the talk on Monday Night? And what's the status of Simon Dean, who was officially signed to the RAW roster by Bischoff?

Be sure to tune in to Monday Night RAW (9/8 CT; Spike TV) for all the answers.
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** Should be a good show. Hopefully it will build up NYR good. Latelly it seems WWE puts little or no effort tp promote it's ppvs.**

** Just finished "The Rise and Fall of ECW". Great dvd! Anyone who has yet to check this one out, whether you were a fan of ECW or not, or even if you want to know about ECW, you should check this one out. One of the best dvds yet put out by WWE, 10/10

TNA is on tonight at 12:00 right. But could someone tell what channel please, I always forget that. Thanks!

Isn't it Fox Sports Net??? Any way who cares, Raw is on!

I really wanted Eugene and Shelton in well at least Triple H out. This is one of the rare PPV i'm ordering, well my friend is, I'm paying him for it but this is mostly because its on my birthday.

Who's all happy about the special ref. HBK?

Also, I saw on IGN something about a Smackdown vs. Raw 2? Can anyone speculate on this. If they do make one I hope it has a better roser; Eugene, Hurricne, Rosey, Simon Dean, Snitsky, LITA... and Superstars new music. Other than that the first one wasn't that bad.

Jericho has no hope in hell of winning that title. He's clearly just a filler. Edge is sort of feuding with everyone, and Triple H and Benoit, are sort of feuding with him. Batista and Triple H have something going on, but we're just not sure what - like an obvious feud that's yet to surface. Orton is tied up with Triple H, and there's other things going on too, but where does this leave Jericho? Pretty much nowhere. There's really no reason for him to win the title, which isn't cool, because i'd really like to see that.

Also, does anybody else really hate the way Orton 'punches'? I swear it's the most pathetic thing i've ever seen. I'm quickly realizing he's a terrible wrestler, especially after watching that awful match he has with Edge on Raw.

Just imagine if all the EC Participants lost their matches.

We would of had Christian Vs Eugene Vs Viscera Vs Rhyno Vs Maven Vs Shelton Benjamin in the Elimination Chamber for the World Title. with HBK as Referee. just a hillarious though. Viscera for World Heavyweight Champion!!!!

Anyways, Tonight's Episode of Raw sounded pretty damn good. I loved the whole "beat the last match's time record" concept of this episode. 8 matches on free TV. are back in 2001 again? whoe!. I knew for a fact that HBK would be the Speical Referee in the EC match. but glad to have him back though.

The "Night of Champions" SmackDown! should be pretty good this week to.

I am glad HBK is back!

I don't see why Benoit was upset that HBK was made special guest ref.
Anyway, with HBK as the ref... I simply do not see Edge winning this one. Infact, I see him listening to some sweet chin music. And I really hope Triple H doesn't win either and HBK being ref makes it less likely, thank god.

Yes, I have noticed those stupid jabs that Orton does in every single match, and it really looks like the only thing he can do in matches right now is jab, put on headlocks, do high flying cross bodies and the RKO. He's a terrible wrestler right now, and it's a shame because he was getting quite good before the big push. His IC title match with Shelton Benjamin on Bad Blood was an awesome show.

LOL, at the thought of seeing that chamber match. That would be a sure fire way to kill the WWE!

Last Night's Raw was good. HBK as ref for the EC match should be pretty good. SD sounds good this week, but I'll read the spoilers first to see if there is anything worth seeing.

NoDQ.com > News > More On Vince's Plans, Cena/Orton; & More
Posted by Niel Stephens on 12/28/2004 at 09:46 AM

- Vince McMahon’s plans for John Bradshaw Layfield is for him to hold onto the title until Summerslam, however, other writers (including Paul Heyman before he was demoted) were trying to convince him to change it to Wrestlemania.

- At that point, the plan would be for John Cena to defeat JBL to win the title while over on RAW, Randy Orton would recapture the World title before a re-draft takes place immediately after Wrestlemania. This would then lead to Cena being drafted by RAW and Orton by Smackdown! which would lead to a whole new round of opponents for each wrestler. Orton would get an extended run as champion and Cena would in all likelihood eventually drop the title back to Triple H.

- However, it is unclear whether these initial plans are still intact because a lot of it was Paul Heyman’s proposals. Furthermore, Stephanie McMahon doesn’t favor John Cena as champ since she feels that he isn’t a good enough worker to be at the top and that his pops aren’t at championship levels.

- Keep in mind these are just talked about plans right now and could change at the flick of a switch.


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JBL retaining through Mania?? THAT WOULD RULE! I do hope he retains through Wrestlemania, BUT, he has to beat the opponent CLEAN. No handful of tights, no ropes, no Bashams, no Title bash, no chairshots and no OJ so he can become a convincing champion on his own.
And I like the idea of Orton and Cena getting drafted as world champions.

GOGOGO JBL!!!!!!!!!!

I was too tired to post last night after getting off of work.At the 2nd house we had to lift this HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY carpet...UP THE STAIRS!I couldn't lift it.It was way too heavy.Thank God the house owner's son came by and helped us out with it.I can only work once in awhlie though.When I turn 16 I can work everyday.Im sore right now in my wrist,back,neck,calves,legs,and arms.I got paid 50$ today which is ALOT to me.If I work everyday i'll get paid everyday.It's hard work though until you learn how to lift the carpet.I know how to do some carpet work now also.It's a good trade.

Im starting to like Raw 2.My cousin and I were playing today and there a few cool things about it:

Camera Angles-Raw 2 does it the best out of all the WWE games.

Entrance Interference-When your in the ring and your opponet is on the run way you can run out the ring and hit him.Or when your backstage and your opponet is on the run way you can run and attack him from behind.

Story Mode-It's 2 players!!!You can set traps,steal,or call out people.There is no text or dialouge(SP?) though which is the only messed up thing about it.

Gameplay-I know it's no SD game when it comes to quickness and quick holds but Raw 2 has a mix of SD and NM.Raw would be even better if they were to speed it up a little.

Graphics-

Ladder Matches-THERE ARE 2 DIFFRENT LADDERS.One is normal height and one is large.Plus you can do a bit more from the top of the ladder than SD.Edge can do his special DDT from the ladder.
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JBL having the belt for awhle might be good.Im starting to like his gimmick every time I see him.

Man you must be a JBL fanboy! I'm getting so sick of seeing that jerk walk around SD like he's the greatest thing since Hulk Hogan, it makes me ill! The thought of him keeping the title as long as he has then to keep it past Mania makes me sick, I'm glad I'm boycotting SD, it's going to suck in 2005 of that loser is aloud to keep the belt that long. JBL + WWE title = really bad bussiness!

As for Cena and Orton being "drafted" as World Champs, that's good to a certain extent, the only thing is though, Cena loses to that fucking bitch Triple H on Raw, and Orton will likelly lose it to that other bitch JBL on SD! Which means we get stuck with two shitty World Champs on both shows after the draft, instead of two good ones, either way, if WWE goes through with those plans, 2005 is going to suck ass for WWE, and I'll find some way even if I have to pirate the signal in from down south to see TNA!

Yeah, if JBL retains through Mania and a bit into 2005, the whole WWE will suck for the entire year.... That's really realistic...
and I'm a JBL fan. I've always liked him since he's started this gimmick. And clearly, him being champion isn't bad for business since smackdown! is doing good and as you can see, most people here at the mko.com wrestling thread are finally starting to like him as a heel WWE champ.

Yeah, if JBL retains through Mania and a bit into 2005, the whole WWE will suck for the entire year.... That's really realistic...
and I'm a JBL fan. I've always liked him since he's started this gimmick. And clearly, him being champion isn't bad for business since smackdown! is doing good and as you can see, most people here at the mko.com wrestling thread are finally starting to like him as a heel WWE champ.

Most people?I think it's more like 60/40 60% hate him and 40% love him.As for him holding the title until SS thats a bad move.Love him or not JBL has had a nice long title run already at six months,but a year long title reign would be insane.He has already held the belt longer then Hogan,Benoit,Taker,HBK,BigShow,Lesnar,Angel,and Orton.Hell the only person who has held it near that long is HHH and we all know why.For Vince to give the ok for JBL to retain that long is stupid he will stop the growth of other wrestlers like Triple H on Raw.And since Taker and Booker are about to retire that would be a slap in the face to both of them.Why give JBL 4 or five more months as champ while Taker or Booker can have a nice title reign before they leave.Vince should not let whom he likes to hold the title for long stints it's bad for his company.Look at the HHH backlash and how many people don't like how he is always champ o fighting to be champ.In the long run thats a bad move for JBL.There is nothing wrong with Bradshaw dropping the title(Not to Cena however)and winning it back 5 to 8 months down the line.I just don't like how the WWe is forcing stars on us Orton as champ,JBL and next maybe Cena!I like all three of them but don't force them on us too soon,let them grow then let them shine.The WWe seems too desperate to make new stars and if they don't slow down this will come back to bite them on the ass.Let star grow look at what it did for Austin,TripleH,Rock it took years for these guys to make it on top we watched them grow and fell in love with them.But now every star is getting forced on us the wwe need to think about the big picture and not a quick fix.

I think the WWE are doing quite well with making JBL and Cena the next big stars. JBL is coming along nicely, hes playing his role into perfection and the fans love to hate him, and hes getting massive heat out there. his promo in Iraq is one of many reasons why I love this guy.

Cena is currently one of the most over wrestlers in the WWE right now. he gets some of the biggest pops out there behind Eddie and Taker and its been that way all year. the best thing to do is to have one of the biggest faces Cena go up against of the most hated heel JBL for the WWE title at Mania with Cena winning. Smackdown needs a huge face like Cena as their Champion.

Orton, no matter how much the WWE pushes him to the top or how over gets getting. I just don't care for this guy. the ONLY match I liked out of him was the hardcore match with Foley at Backlash. His World Title reign was beyond terrible. he just seems "bland" to me. What the WWE should be doing is just drop the Orton Experiment and focus their attention on Batista now. the fans are starting to cheer for Batista right now and looks like this is the feud the WWE is going with. It should be Triple H Vs Batista for the World title at mania. Orton Vs Triple H will suck. their first match at Unforgiven sucked ass and sence it already happened. it'll be stupid to do it again. Batista is 10x much better than Orton. Orton should just be a upper-midcared at best while Batista is the next Main-Eventer.