Big Show is terrible. He's unpleasant to look at, you can tell the crowd reaction is slowly slipping from his grasp, and he's also the worst athlete on Smackdown!. He can't even run. I laughed my ass off when he did the Hogan Leg Drop the other day. He just walked like a retard to the ropes, touched them, slowly walked back and fell on his ass. It was terrible. And it was also pointless. It's not like he's a fan of Hogan oldschool stuff, like Eugene, and he never had that move. So why is he doing Hogan Leg Drops and F-5s? CHEAP POP. Big Show is a terrible superstar.

I like The Big Show, I've seen alot of decent-Pretty good matches from him. and he could be hillarious sometimes when hes just being himself. and watcing SD! last night. hes getting huge pops out there.

I'am looking foward to the SD! Bagdad show next week as it should be a good one. so far, Eddie.Booker T, and Foley are gurentee to be there and the Main-Event is Undertaker Vs Heindreirch. It'll be cool seeing Undertaker's entrance out there.

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they pull it off. I don't know, the show will be ok, but without Austin there..., I can only hope they do another Diva's in Santa suits segment again! Wonder what Foley will be doind there?

I like the Big Slow because of his size, his humor (which can be excellent) and he dresses like you would think Cena would outside the ring. He also was man enough to come out and admit when he broke into WCW he was a blatant asshole to his friends, family, fans, and co-workers. I applaud that because to overcome you have to make right what you did wrong.

I do agree with Zentile tho. The crowd is confused on what to do with him, Vince is confused what to do with him, and he's so big he can't really do all too much.

I'd really like to see him and Foley fued, cause Foley can dish the shit out and Big Slow can take it and give it right back.

"Pfft" Fuck Austin. Last year's show wasn't good just because of Austin. they had a good Eddie/benoit match and an entertaining Main-Event. and it was interesting to see a wrestling show in the middle of a dessert. The show still would of been a success with or without that wife-beating asshole.

SD was a decent show, IMO. Angle/JBL was fun to watch. I love angle, I want to be his man bitch . I don't know why, but I just can't get down with RVD. Not since ECW, meh. I had more to say on thursday, but I forgot, lol.

BTW, Sting was on some teli-evangelism station tonight, lol. Good stuff.

Did anyone see the Royal Rumble Commerical during SmackDown!?

Seriosuly, that RR Promo was pretty Funny,amusing, and uh, werid. I'am curious as to why the WWE went with a West-Side Story theme.

The crowd did pop when his theme song played and he came out to do some house cleaning, but when he did the title shot movement around his waist, I noticed the crowd didn't seem so excited anymore.

Yeah, the Eddie/Benoit match was good, and there was an entertaining Main-Event. I also liked the part when Rikishi danced with two of the female troops. That one couldn't stop laughing, it was great, and seeing a show done in the dessert was good, but also seeing Austin involved was good to, and I see you believe in the bullshit of him being a wife-beater (don't get me started!), and you're entitled to your opinions, I'm a bit of an Austin fanboy in case noone caught onto that!! But since it's been done already, and after all there was allot of hurrah in Iraq then, cause the troops had just captured Saddam, I think that this year's SD from Iraq won't be as good.

The troops need, and deserve a morale booster, cause let's face it morale is likelly lowest it's ever been over there, and the WWE can give it to them. I'll tune in and see what the show will be like. Hope Foley won't be dressed as Santa, that would be lame!

I think the troops will be happy to see fan favorites like Mick Foley and The Undertaker. As for Austin, I don't belive, disbelive nor care about the Austin wife beating thing. I just said it for the hell of it. I know your an Austin fanboy, but I stopped giving a shit about him once he stopped wrestling and still managed to have stupid roles on Raw beating the shit out of all the other superstars. it was pathetic IMO.

Anyways, I'am gald they brought back the title History section at WWE.com. Its still being updated. so far they only have the histories of the WWE title, World Heavyweight title, Intercontinental Title, and WWE Tag Team Titles. its pretty cool.

I don't know about defending the title offline.I only read that you can defend it online.Hopefully it will be offline.

Thats cool the WWE goes to Iraq and entertain the troops.Some people just don't appreciate what their doing down there(they know who they are).

Impact was ok yesterday.The "Kings Of Wrestling" thing is getting tired now.Kevin Nash looks funny now.Nash is getting old,Im starting to notice:

Yelling "OWWWWWWWWWWWWW" when climbing out of the ring

Leaning against the wall drinking water.

Wearing old man clothes(That blue button down shirt with wings on it)

Grey Hair

Same thing with Scott Hall.Even though he's one of my favorite wrestlers.BTW,I read at an site Lita had a near death experince.Here is a link:Lita near Death Experince

It dosen't say what happened it just says she had an near death experince. Since it's Christmas I suggest you stay away from these toys: Rip Off WWF/WWE toys.

Actually, sometimes the crowd noises are fake or computer generated!!


On Smackdown ,In Houston,TX Aug. 3 (were Spike turn heel a put Rey through a table) Booker T fought Billy Gunn on velocity and when booker T came out everyone scream loud for him ( he was heel at the time) !!! But when you watched it on T.V. the crowd was booing!!


Don't ever believe the crowd reaction, sometimes there fake, I think Dan Puder were fake cheers!!!

Heh, yeah I was just watching Raw, and Vince got pretty big pop, so i'm not sure if it really says all that much at all. Stupid fans. Stupid editing.

Just saw that Lita/Trish title match too. Ouch. Reminds me of that Hayabusa blown spot. If that were a guy, he'd have surely snapped himself in half. Anyway the match itself really was excellent, all things considered.

To anyone who has Smackdown vs. Raw, how do you unlock certain moves like the Goldberg's spears, cyclone2, or other moves that don't come with the move sets that I bought in Shopzone.

I bought every move set but I still can't choose them.

Thanks if anyone knows.

hey I have the game, its amaing but sry I didn't bought the moveset in the shopzone yet...............

Thanks anyway, btw I like your sig!

That's a great sig you've got there $UB-Z?R0.

Quick question about SvR, you know how in the Shopzone section there's a challenge area, how do you do those challenges? This goes also to anyone who has the game.

I've been reading online that some wrestlers are receiving 'heat' backstage at WWE for not wanting to go to Iraq, even though the tour is said to be completelly "voluntary". RVD is one such wrestler, he said that he didn't want to go to Iraq (no reason given), and that asshole Johny Ace Laurinaitis told him it was a "bad move" on his part. RVD went to Vince and told him how he felt, and didn't end up going on the trip, but still has heat on him because he didn't go. Now, my problem with this is, if the tour is suppossed to be "voluntary" and some of the guys say that they don't want to go for whatever reason, then feel forced to go cause assess like Laurinaitis tell them "it's a bad move" then the fucking thing ain't voluntary then is it? Vince should just come out and say "all WWE personel are required to go to Iraq" instead of feeding the guys the voluntary shit then giving the guys greif cause they don't want to go, how stupid is this?

Comments/questions/concerns?

This pisses me off. It's voluntary meaning it's the choice of each individual guy. RVD getting grief fot it is bullshit and those doint it need to back off of him. Not like Vince said "EVERYONE is required to go!" RVD has been getting shafted for a while now and leaving wouldn't be a bad idea if he chose to.


GD

Also not everyone agrees with the war over irac. The option of going isn't even in the contracts so no official trouble will come over it.

SVR

First off, the challenges are just completed in exhibition mode with the set requirements (ie: check to make sure you have your game set on the right difficulty for the challenge you're doing). I wish they had made this more clear on the menu itself, because I was trying to play the matches straight from the shopzone menu, wondering why they wern't working, heh. You'll need to have unlocked all the legends before you can attempt the 'legend' challenges, obviously (some of those are tricky - that Bret Hart/Brutus Beefcake thing had me pissed off for a while).

As for those other moves, they are unlocked after you complete all the challenges (including the ones under legend difficulty), if I remember correctly.

OMG MIKE MIZANIN DIND'T WIN! FAKE CHEARS! LOL! Just because YOUR favorite guy didn't win doesn't mean crowd cheers are fake. WCW however on WCW Worldwide had a lot of fake cheers.

Dumb Smarks.

My cousin's Game Informer mag came in the mail today and there is a 4 page article I think in there.I was reading it and I was blown away about all of the stuff in there.You HAVE to see the Independent Arenas:

Tough Enough looking Gym

High School

House Show

One of the arenas look like it was taken right out of WCW Vs The World.It has wooden floors.

From what I read it's a mix of DOR and SVR but deeper(fighting wise).Game Informer said that when WM21 comes out it maybe the best wrestling game on Xbox.I can't wait to see WM21 in action.It's in the book with Snoop Dogg on the cover(LOL at his game).

As for RVD,I think he might be afraid.I remember last year they were giving a drill to the wrestlers down there just in case someone starts shooting.I would be afraid also.I agree with the war and all of that but it is scary just thinking about getting shot while entertaining or performing for the troops.

When is Kane coming back? I wasn't sure if it was tonight or if it was by Royal Rumble... also I found information on Wrestlmania 21.

Publisher: THQ
Developer: Studio Gigante
Genre: Wrestling
Origin: U.S.
Number Of Players: 1-4
Release Date: March 8, 2005
X Box Live: Yes
ESRB Rating: Rating Pending

WWE WrestleMania 21

WrestleMania can define a legacy, and yours is about to be written. The greatest spectacle in sports-entertainment comes to XboxTM with WWE WrestleMania® 21. The WWE experience has never been more lifelike with Superstar voice-over and commentary, an all-new proreversal system and motion capture technology, making this the most realistic looking grappler to date. Create the ultimate Superstar and watch him evolve as you earn new move-sets, costumes and abilities in your quest for the WWE Heavyweight Championship. Build the perfect championship belt and defend it on Xbox Live while gaining prestige with each victory you claim, or take on four of your friends in head-to-head competition online. WrestleMania® 21 will immortalize your legacy forever. How will you become a Legend?

Features
Superstar Voice-Over and Commentary
Become A Legend online via X Box Live
Four-player head-to-head online play with multiple match types and voice chat support
New online create-a-belt feature will change the wrestling genre
Character Evolution – Unique character-building story mode allows you to upgrade you Superstar’s appearance, abilities, entrance, costumes and move-set as you attempt to win the WWE Heavyweight Championship
Superstar moves and animations come to life like never before with motion-capture technology
Pro Reversal System - First wrestling game to ever feature a countering system that incoporates a contrary reversal for each and every attacking move

Gameplay Features

--> 4 different wrestler classes. Each class confers a unique movement style and grapple/attack preference.

--> Weight detection system considers the size and stature of a wrestler when determining the outcome of any wrestler-versus-wrestler interaction (attack reactions, lift success rate, etc).

--> Limb damage system: damage sustained by each limb is tracked throughout a match. Limbs which have sustained severe damage become more vulnerable to submission holds.

--> Heat meter: tracks how favorably the crowd is responding to each wrestler. The greater the heat, the more momentum a wrestler has. Maximum heat allows a wrestler to pull off a finishing move.

--> 6 different attributes per wrestler, each with a distinct effect on gameplay:



<>Stamina: ability to sustain large amounts of damage

<>Speed: rate of movement around the ring

<>Strength: amount of damage inflicted per move

<>Submission: ability to force an opponent to submit

<>Countering: ability to counter an incoming move

<>Charisma: ability to build up heat through taunting


--> 4 grapple types available to each wrestler: quick, strong, specialty, and submission. Each type of grapple has its own selection of triggerable moves, which vary per wrestler.

--> Support for all possible grapple states: against the turnbuckle, against the ropes, ladder, out-of-ring, etc.
Every move in the game can be countered or reversed.

--> Pro Reversal system: allows for skilled players to reverse a grapple move or finisher during the course of the move, granting a '2nd chance' to avoid a damaging attack.

--> Superstar-specific mannerisms (attack preferences, taunts, and custom motions) bring life to each individual wrestling personality.

Customization Features

<>Create a Superstar

--> Massively expanded selection of customization options - body type/shape, costumes, and gear

--> Gradual delivery of content: Created Superstars can be developed and improved via their progress through the game's career mode.

--> Created Superstars can be brought online to fight against another player's creation.

Create a Championship

--> Users are given the opportunity to craft a Championship of their own design. They may specify the materials the championship is made of, the style of the faceplate and sideplates, plus any additional embellishments that make a championship stand out (I.e. precious gems attached to various points).

--> Progressing through the single player game unlocks additional elements that can be purchased and attached to the belt, adding to its value.

--> At any time, a championship can be defended locally on the user's machine, or it can be taken online and defended against all challengers.

--> Successfully defending a championship adds to its value, which is tracked online for those championships that rank among the most prestigious.

Environment Details

--> Dynamic lighting effects (affecting players, crowd, and environment)

--> Enhanced rope and turnbuckle physics

--> Reactionary crowd: multiple levels of excitement and celebration.


Modes of Play

<>Exhibition Mode

--> Single
--> Tag
--> Handicap
--> Triple Threat
--> Fatal Fourway
--> Battle Royal
--> Royal Rumble
--> Special Match Stipulations
--> Table
--> Ladder
--> TLC
--> Cage
--> Hell in a Cell
--> Last Man Standing
--> Bra and Panties

Career Mode

--> Take your created superstar through his formulative stages in Velocity, all the way to becoming the WWE Champion at Wrestlemania XXI.

--> As each challenge is successfully cleared, the player is given attribute points to improve their superstar's abilities, and cash to upgrade their superstar's appearance, entrance, and move set.

--> Extensive use of cutscenes

--> Full voiceover support

Online Mode
--> 4 player support via Xbox Live

--> Compete in most of the single player exhibition mode types (final list TBD)
Defend your championship online to increase its prestige and value

--> Live voicechat support allows for real-time taunting and jabbering

Roster Information
46 Wrestlers Total!
35 WWE Superstars
6 Divas
5 Legends

Confirmed Roster So Far
Kane
Edge
Christian
Chris Jericho
The Hurricane
Spike Dudley
Rhyno
Bubba Ray Dudley
Chris Benoit
Rob Van Dam
Triple H
Randy Orton
Stacy Kiebler
Batista
Shelton Benjamin
John Cena
Big Show
Kurt Angle
JBL
Chavo Guerrero
Trish Stratus
Rey Mysterio

Legends So Far
The Rock (1997)

Referees So Far
Nick Patrick (SD!)

Sorry if this information wa already know.

Thanks for the info.I didn't know the roster list was out yet.It looks alright.BTW,I gotta new forum coming out soon.I would love to have all my wrestling buddies over there.It should be done Tommorow.