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09/15/2013 01:46 PM (UTC)
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I'm doing a Nuzlocke challenge for the first time in HeartGold and I gotta say this is the most fun I've had playing Pokemon in a long time. I've got the weirdest squad with me right now. Its a group of Pokemon I thought I'd never use and I can't imagine any of them dying on me.

For anyone considering doing the challenge, I say go for it. Its a blast!

The rules:

-If a Pokemon faints you have to release it; its dead
-You can only catch the first Pokemon you meet in a new area. If you don't catch it then you don't get a new Pokemon. If its a Pokemon you've already caught, you cannot recatch it.
I was doing one in Pearl. I still am really, but I haven't done anything in awhile. I had a good team headed by Monferno, and I had at least 2 badges. I was using a slightly different set of rules, but it was a nuzlocke nonetheless. I should get back into it.

News coming soon...


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09/16/2013 07:41 PM (UTC)
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Looking forward to whatever is presented today! grin
Oh hey, did you know that all the types resistant to Fairy are vulnerable to Ground? New, interesting combo!
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09/16/2013 09:31 PM (UTC)
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i'm happy about the changes to Steel, i never understood why steel resisted ghost and dark, but this balances nicely with the buff against fairy, it's a shame these changes can't be implemented retroactively to the previous gen games.

I'm also happy that poison finally received a buff, being that it was super effective againt two, then one, now two again.

Fire's defensive capability is now even better than before, and still second-best to steel, so Heatran might get to see more use (even with the double-weakness to ground)

The only thing that bothers me is how the 'legendary' mythical Dragon type has been completely punished, with still no offensive capabilities to really compliment the ferocious wild nature of its basis. Here we are with more dragons than ever, (mega-Amphy, Tyrunt etc) and Game Freak makes them redundant. Y U NO like Dragons, Game Freak?
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09/17/2013 01:27 AM (UTC)
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PickleMendip Wrote:
i'm happy about the changes to Steel, i never understood why steel resisted ghost and dark, but this balances nicely with the buff against fairy, it's a shame these changes can't be implemented retroactively to the previous gen games.

My main gripe with the change is they did it for both types, when removing the resistance for one would've made a more significant difference. As it stands, the only Pokemon that resist Ghost attacks are Dark, with Normal being immune. It kind of puts Ghost on par with Dragon because it is resisted by so few types now. Perhaps we'll see some more defensive Normal and Dark types to balance this out.
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I'm also happy that poison finally received a buff, being that it was super effective againt two, then one, now two again.

What's even better about the change is that there are almost no Dragons in the current metagame that learn either Poison or Steel moves to deal with Fairies effectively. It forces Dragons to rely on those types in the rest of the team.
PickleMendip Wrote:
Fire's defensive capability is now even better than before, and still second-best to steel, so Heatran might get to see more use (even with the double-weakness to ground)

lol, it's kind of funny to say that Fire is now one of the most defensive types in the series considering how it started out in gen 1.
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The only thing that bothers me is how the 'legendary' mythical Dragon type has been completely punished, with still no offensive capabilities to really compliment the ferocious wild nature of its basis. Here we are with more dragons than ever, (mega-Amphy, Tyrunt etc) and Game Freak makes them redundant. Y U NO like Dragons, Game Freak?

Considering the last 3 generations have featured at least 3 Legendary Dragons each game, along with the abundance of lesser Dragons to every single tier, and giving players only Steel to defend against them until recently, I think it's safe to say Dragon types have received enough love. It's the same as the Psychic types in the first generation having so much power, but then being brought down by the inclusion of Steel and Dark, and a more effective offensive Ghost attacks.
I shall nickname my Pyroar... Charlemane...



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09/17/2013 08:22 AM (UTC)
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Goddamn the Nuzlocke Challenge is brutal. I almost chucked my 3ds when Pryce's Dewgong landed a critical and killed my Poliwhirl. B
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09/17/2013 11:17 AM (UTC)
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Actually, a handful of Dragon types get Iron Tail from Gen 4 TMs. Can always trade one of those in.
What is a Nuzlocke challenge, anyways?
I've seen it mentioned on GFAQs Diamond boards years ago.

Anything to do with Nuzleaf?

What if there was a Carbuncle Eeveelution?



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09/18/2013 12:21 AM (UTC)
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m0s3pH Wrote:
Actually, a handful of Dragon types get Iron Tail from Gen 4 TMs. Can always trade one of those in.

Actually, I forgot about the Tutors in B2W2, basically all the Dragons learn Iron Tail so they have to face the fear that Psychics have with Focus Blast. tongue
Only Dragonite, Kingdra, Rayquaza, Garchomp-line, Dialga (STAB), Giratina, Druddigon (Sheer Force-boosted), and Kyurem learn the better Iron Head. Druddigon, Garchomp, and Haxorus seem to be the best for learning Poison attacks too, like Gunk Shot and Poison Jab.
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09/18/2013 01:40 AM (UTC)
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Jerrod Wrote:
m0s3pH Wrote:
Actually, a handful of Dragon types get Iron Tail from Gen 4 TMs. Can always trade one of those in.

Actually, I forgot about the Tutors in B2W2, basically all the Dragons learn Iron Tail so they have to face the fear that Psychics have with Focus Blast. tongue
Only Dragonite, Kingdra, Rayquaza, Garchomp-line, Dialga (STAB), Giratina, Druddigon (Sheer Force-boosted), and Kyurem learn the better Iron Head. Druddigon, Garchomp, and Haxorus seem to be the best for learning Poison attacks too, like Gunk Shot and Poison Jab.


It's going to be quite an event to see how the grand battle between Dragons and Fairies turn out.

I've got 10 on the Fairies.
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09/19/2013 05:24 AM (UTC)
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Tetra_Vega Wrote:
What is a Nuzlocke challenge, anyways?
I've seen it mentioned on GFAQs Diamond boards years ago.

Anything to do with Nuzleaf?

What if there was a Carbuncle Eeveelution?



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Its a self-imposed challenge to make a playthrough of Pokemon more interesting. Here are the basic rules:

SubMan799 Wrote:
The rules:

-If a Pokemon faints you have to release it; its dead
-You can only catch the first Pokemon you meet in a new area. If you don't catch it then you don't get a new Pokemon. If its a Pokemon you've already caught, you cannot recatch it.


There are tons of other subrules and whatnot but these two are the most important. You should also nickname your Pokemon.

In other news my Meganium took a critical against Claire's last Pokemon and died. That one really stung considering my Broleaf has been with me since the beginning
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09/19/2013 02:59 PM (UTC)
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The fossil evolutions have been revealed and are on serebii.net.

I love both if them. Definitley the most interesting of the fossil pokemon so far id say. I like both but really want to raise a Amaura/Auroras.

I wish they'd let us know exactly how many new pokes to expect.
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09/19/2013 03:16 PM (UTC)
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Tyrantrum looks awesome. Aurorus looks disgusting. Absolutely horrendous.

Oh well. That's usually how fossil pokemon go. One good one bad.
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09/19/2013 03:25 PM (UTC)
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Tyrantrum looks awesome. Aurorus looks disgusting. Absolutely horrendous.

Oh well. That's usually how fossil pokemon go. One good one bad.


I think Aurorus is a very refreshing change from the usual stereotypical fossil pokemon.

I've always felt that not every pokemon that existed millions of years ago looked like a giant ferocious dinosaur. Plus, it's an Ice type! grin
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09/19/2013 03:40 PM (UTC)
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I'm not a fan of Dinosaur based pokemon.
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09/19/2013 05:58 PM (UTC)
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MKKitana Wrote:
I love both if them. Definitely the most interesting of the fossil Pokemon so far id say. I like both but really want to raise a Amaura/Auroras.

I have to agree on both fronts, there. Got fed up of seeing such random prehistoric Pokemon that aren't even close to being dinosaurs (with half being exceptions, but come on, we got trilobites, ancient sea turtles, ancient snails, and a Pokemon that looks like it ran face first into a brick wall and kept on running with it), and that aren't part Water or Flying. The type combos may not be the very best, but they are pretty darn cool. I'm considering raising the Ice one just because I always wanted an Ice/Rock type in the game, and it would work spectacularly if it got some really powerful Normal-moves. lol, if it got Explosion, that would be cool. grin
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09/19/2013 06:48 PM (UTC)
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The new fossils are interesting, definitely not the worst thing in the world.
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09/20/2013 10:07 PM (UTC)
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Lol, if you look at Tyrantrum's dex entry, it says that it was the king of the prehistoric era, while also saying that it's 8ft tall... That is pretty small for what should be the scariest of dinosaurs, right? tongue
Speaking of striking fear into Pokemon, I've been thinking about it, and I'm wondering how much use Fairy attacks will have outside of actually Fairy Pokemon. Think about it, all the Dragons with a few notable exceptions have other weaknesses, like Rock for the Flyers, or Fighting for Hydreigon. With how many Pokémon already learning Ice moves, maybe Fairy moves won't make a huge difference without Fairies themselves giving the STAB boost.
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09/21/2013 01:39 AM (UTC)
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Atack of the Double Post! lol

Anyhoo, that's a pretty good point, there. There are quite a few pokemon that are already capable of using Ice-type attacks. However, given the high ATK Dragon pokemon often have, and the STAB boost received from Dragon-type moves, the Ice-type attacks can very well be taken care of.

Having an additional super-effective for pokemon that can't learn Dragon-type moves helps to stregnthen the battle field. Truly, very few pokemon can learn Dragon-type attacks.
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09/21/2013 02:05 AM (UTC)
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That is also a very good point. It's ironic that in this metagame, it is advised against using Dragon moves in a set simply because the attacks have no utility except when used by Dragons, because even using them to deal with Dragons is silly... Which is where Ice and Fairy both shine for having so many other types they deal with too.
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09/21/2013 07:26 PM (UTC)
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When judging the fossils based on their unevolved forms I hated both of them. Those are two hideously generic designs. The fully evolved, however, are great. Also, Frogadier soooo wins the title of best looking mid-stage starter.
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09/23/2013 07:33 AM (UTC)
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Jerrod Wrote:
That is also a very good point. It's ironic that in this metagame, it is advised against using Dragon moves in a set simply because the attacks have no utility except when used by Dragons, because even using them to deal with Dragons is silly... Which is where Ice and Fairy both shine for having so many other types they deal with too.


Dragon type attacks on dragon Pokemon are very effective. Up until now, only steel resisted dragon. The neutrality of dragon moves meant very few Pokemon in the meta game could stand up against them.

So for instance, if I have a Dragon Danced Dragonite using Outrage and you don't have a steel type, you're gonna get stomped. Of course with Fairy types now being immune to dragon, I'm sure we'll be seeing less Outrage usage.

Btw, if anyone is interested in competitive battling, there are tons of battle simulators online that you can use. I've never played Gen V competitively, but I thought Gen IV's competitive scene on Smogon was pretty fun.
Why isn't it just called a Hardcore challenge like any other game?


So anyone notice Male Pyroar's mane is shield shaped?
Also Fire/Normal compliments Honedge's Steel/Ghost typing.

There's your Sword/Shield combo.



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09/23/2013 11:43 PM (UTC)
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I found this out the other day, actually.

The Nuzlocke challenge is so called because of the origin of 'hard mode'. It centres around a cartoon strip where the player has a Nuzleaf but with the head of the character Locke from Lost.

Useless information imparted.
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09/24/2013 04:30 AM (UTC)
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SubMan799 Wrote:
Dragon type attacks on dragon Pokemon are very effective. Up until now, only steel resisted dragon. The neutrality of dragon moves meant very few Pokemon in the meta game could stand up against them.
So for instance, if I have a Dragon Danced Dragonite using Outrage and you don't have a steel type, you're gonna get stomped. Of course with Fairy types now being immune to dragon, I'm sure we'll be seeing less Outrage usage.

No, you misunderstand what I'm saying. Unless you are teaching it to a Dragon, there is no value for teaching Dragon moves to most Pokemon because their coverage is lame. Getting super effective damage on Dragon is fine, but Ice does it better most of the time, and does that and more to several other types.
The only time you'll see Dragon attacks in use in the present metagame is when it's being used by an actual Dragon, or when the user's move pool is that barren.
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